Ossetia conflict between Georgia and Russia expands (2nd Roundup)

lanceAug 9th, 2008 - 16:16:01

OK, where is SP4. Finally a world leader with the balls of Bush standing up for what he believes in, whoopin ass in the spirit of a U.S. president.

Ride em cowboy! Lets whoop us some casualties with big ass bombs and teach those people a lesson!

Come on all you Bush proteges, now other world leaders are getting into the action and molding the world into their image just like the supreme being Bush! You must all be ecstatic! The next step to Armageddon is coming and the path to jesus is getting clearer!

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CharlesAug 9th, 2008 - 16:50:25

Lance, I think there is a vaccine for BDS. Visit your doctor.

In case you didn't know, this conflict - and Russia's pummeling of Georgia, has been going on since early 90's.

It has nothing to do with Bush.

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SP4: The Mongoloid RussiansAug 9th, 2008 - 16:52:51

...totally surrounded by trade partners, they could be the economic powerhouse of Asia. Instead, they do this.

How f--king moronic can you get??????

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The question right back at youAug 9th, 2008 - 17:41:39

SP4: Aug 9th, 2008 - 16:52:51

How f--king moronic can you get??????

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www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/09/georgia.russia2

Moscow supports South Ossetia, which has had de facto independence from Georgia since 1992 after a bloody war. Many people in the region have Russian citizenship. Georgia claims South Ossetia as part of its territory.

Aside from the regional impact, the fighting threatens to increase tensions between Russia and the US. Georgia is a close American ally and Russia's foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, has said the US must bear some of the blame for arming and training Georgian soldiers.

Bush, speaking before heading to watch the US women's basketball team in Beijing, said he was 'deeply concerned about the situation', notably Russia's bombing inside Georgia.

(Some unintended irony in there, someplace ... remember this moment immortalized on YouTube?)

findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4159/is_20080518/ai_n25444971

True, Bush father and son - 41 and 43 as they sometimes refer to each other - haven't always handled their golf appearances deftly; 41 used to let reporters watch on the first tee. My wife, then as now a Reuters reporter, put her foot in it back in 1991 by asking Dad about Israel just as Junior was swinging. 'Don't talk while we're driving,' said the 41st President. 'We're trying to get some R&R round here.'

Eleven years later, Bush 43 put his foot in it. Asked for his reaction to a suicide bombing in Israel that killed nine people, he struck a jarring note. 'I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. Thank you. Now watch my drive.' His problem is not being seen playing golf, but what he might blurt out while doing so.

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'The attacks are occurring in regions of Georgia far from the zone of conflict in South Ossetia,' he said. 'They mark a dangerous escalation in the crisis.

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www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a5Xv5LXZ7t5c&refer=home

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov ... implicitly accused the U.S., which has trained and equipped the Georgian military and backed the country's bid to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, of responsibility for the crisis. ``Whoever has been supplying arms to Georgia should field part of the blame,'' he said.

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lanceAug 9th, 2008 - 17:42:39

'It has nothing to do with Bush.'

It was SP4 that commented about the balls Bush has compared to other world leaders.

For some reason, hick U.S. citizens (rednecks) think a world leader should be full of strapping testicular enthusiasm while bombing muslims.

There is a big difference between Bush and this event:

Bush uses bombs made in the U.S. to kill muslims.

While Putin uses bombs made in Russia to kill people.

Bush would have more credibility with the U.N. regarding conflict if he had not gone out of his way to create so much conflict and war in the world. The U.N. diplomats must be rolling their eyes in utter contempt at the U.S. (in private ofcourse) for wanting to regulate Russia for actions that the U.S. does with such national pride.

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Listen now to Pat Buchanan, from years agoAug 9th, 2008 - 18:14:33

www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Pat_Buchanan_Foreign_Policy.htm

Avoid the democratist temptation of the internationalists

With the Cold War ending, we should look, too, with a cold eye on the international set, never at a loss for new ideas to divert US wealth and power into crusades and causes having little or nothing to do with the true national interest of the United States. High among these is the democratist temptation [free the world], the worship of democracy as a form of governance and the concomitant ambition to see all mankind embrace it, or explain why not. Like all idolatries, democratism substitutes a false god for the real, a love of process [political pragmatism] for a love of country. The true national interests of the United States are not to be found in some hegemonic and utopian world order. Bush holds global democracy as a goal. This is a formula for endless conflict.'

Source: Where The Right Went Wrong, by Pat Buchanan, p. 13-17&34-35 Sep 1, 2004

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Conflict headed for all-out warAug 9th, 2008 - 18:57:54

www.portfolio.com/news-markets/top-5/2008/08/08/Oil-Slides-Despite-Georgia- Clashes

The fighting could endanger two major pipelines that run from the Caspian Sea to the Turkish coast through Georgia. The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline runs roughly 60 miles south of the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali. That pipeline has been closed since Tuesday because of an explosion in Turkey, but Reuters reported that the fire is expected to be extinguished by the weekend.

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www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/world/europe/10georgia.html?bl&ex=1218427200 &en=d1e8c093fe19df1b&ei=5087%0A

GORI, Georgia — The conflict between Russia and the former Soviet republic of Georgia moved toward all-out war on Saturday as Russia prepared to land ground troops on Georgia’s coast and broadened its bombing campaign both within Georgia and in the disputed territory of Abkhazia.

The fighting that began when Georgian forces tried to retake the capital of the South Ossetia, a pro-Russian region that won de facto autonomy from Georgia in the early 1990s, appeared to be developing into the worst clashes between Russia and a foreign military since the 1980s war in Afghanistan.

Georgia’s president, Mikheil Saakashvili, declared that Georgia was in a state of war, ordering government offices to work around the clock, and said that Russia was planning a full-scale invasion of his country.

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