Poland, US sign contentious missile-shield deal (2nd Roundup)

SP4: perfectAug 20th, 2008 - 14:49:51

...and the Ruskies did it all for us!

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Robert ChapmanAug 20th, 2008 - 14:54:23

Europe has enjoyed a long period of peace and prosperity and is recoiling in horror from its mistakes of siding with the Bush Administration in their endless wars.

The decision to place American missiles in Poland and the Czech Republic can only be seen as a provocative against the Russians. It is totally without merit. Europe should not allow itself to be further drawn into the regional wars in the trans-Caucasus.

The NATO allies must make it clear to America that they are in a defensive and geographically bounded alliance among equals. NATO can longer continue providing cannon fodder for American adventurism.

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SP4: well, Mr. ChapmanAug 20th, 2008 - 15:11:55

..that would all be fine if one thing had anything to do with the other.

The fact is, Europe and the USA bent over backwards to accomodate Russia into the prosperous, democratic group of nations that NATO represents and then Russia goes paranoid, and regresses 45 years. We provided economic assistance, military cooperation, cultural exchange and promoted trade with what could have been the fastest growing most productive trade block in the world.

Instead, they have sided with the old Bolshevik hardliners, and that ex KGB stalinist, to roll back the clock 5 decades. They are setting up Iran as a nuclear proxy, bullying their former satellite states, and flexing 45 year old muscle, playing power politics with energy, all for the goofiest of reasons.

Now, the Mongoloid Russians have decided they are more comfortable with a cold war, a situation that will exacerbate what wishing cannot seem to make go away. There is no way they can win, with the combined GDP of the EU and the USA, plus Japan, so it is already over. The problem is none of this has to be this way.

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lanceAug 20th, 2008 - 17:03:20

The missile shield deal makes no sense. It is politically stupid and technologically stupid. First off, it does not work and second: (if it did work) it is easily defeated by other more practical and cheaper means.

This is just a bunch of posturing by greedy power hungry notoriety seekers, much like Brittany Spears. Brittany gains notoriety via sex, while Bush, et. al, get it via killing. I personally think Brittany's way is more in line with what jesus would prefer, given the two options.

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SP4: Well Lance..a lot has changedAug 20th, 2008 - 17:48:25

...missile defense tech has become very reliable, in the last five years. In test after test they have come up with reliable kill ratios. Besides Lance, what other mission would be more imprtant for any nations military than to protect their populations from thermonuclear annialtation? See the issue here?

Having said that, I'd have to agree this is a Bush political football, designed to be a slap to Russia's making Iran a nuclear proxy. Take a swipe at Bush and the first thing he does is take a swipe back. Everyone, by now knows, no matter what, if you take a swipe at Bush, you are guaranteed to get a swipe back.

Guaranteed.

We could put these on ships and put them in the Baltic, or the Med., etc., but that wouldn't really be the point now, would it?

As for Brittany..I haven't a clue...?

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CharlesAug 20th, 2008 - 17:57:42

OK. Lance said it didn't/won't work. Since he is such an authority on the subject I guess the issue is settled.

Thanks Lance! Is there anything you can't do?

The shield isn't intended to stop 1000 Russian ICBM's. It would probably be overwhelmed with a dozen. What it would do is strategically neutralize any Iranian launch threat against Europe.

PS - Don't believe a word the Russian government says about anything.

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lanceAug 21st, 2008 - 01:48:16

'Thanks Lance! Is there anything you can't do?'

I have no intention of stopping Bush from making an ass of himself. The more Bush does it, the more I am right. And, it feels good to be right.

'What it would do is strategically neutralize any Iranian launch threat against Europe.'

That statement is a joke. If it were true then Israel would already have it installed. The fact is: Even Israel knows the defense system is bogus.

And furthermore, no threat like that exists and will not exist for at least 10 years, if ever. The defense system is intended to pad wallets for payoff and no more than that.

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