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clear demonstration of incompetence and naivette. she's going to get us killed
'She cautioned Russia against selling long-range missiles to Tehran'
Yeah. Only the U.S. can stock the world with long-range missiles. If anyone else does it she is going to throw a hissy fit.
Yeah ... hissy fit .... wah!, wah! You ex-commie pinkos aren't allowed to make a buck off of selling arms to the world. Only the U.S. is allowed to do it. Do as the U.S. says or it is going to throw a hissy fit and if you get in the way then it is jesus-bombs away for you. wah!, wah!, wah!
How so ,care to explain your simpleton's explanation ?We are in need of a good laughter....
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scared chicken ...
Bring on the dancing la-la! Good old Lance can always be relied upon to approach any subject with eyes shut, gob open, and displaying all the perception that one would expect from the average housebrick! Has he never heard of the concept of 'Realpolitik'? It is frightening to contemplate that this in-duh-vidual may one day be pressed for jury service and be accorded the power to help determine the guilt or innocence of a human in a court of law. The old phrase runs 'a jury of your peers:' Peers in this context meaning equals. If this is the case, lance might just be considered fit enough to pass a verdict on shrubbery.
Leave it to the traitorous demonrats, and their treacherous friends in the anti-American MSM, to want 'bilateral' talks with those bisexual commies and socialists in europe. We don't need to talk to no dirty krauts, and frogs, or mics, and spics, or russkies or nips, or chinks for that matter. We don't need no stinking UN, or NATO, or WTO. To hell with the commie infiltrated NAFTA, GRAFTA, and PASTA. We got the biggest guns and we can take care of ourselves, our way, so bugger off with your treasonous talk of surrender to the enemy and a premature withdrawl from Iraq. The whole world, except those effeminate, unpratiotic leftists, is very grateful that we 'unilaterally' took out the massively insane Obama Hussein bin laden, and brought freedom to everyone.
And, it don't make me wrong to say it.
'a jury of your peers:'
Of course. If you get into trouble then you want to be judged by people that look the other way when priests rape children, when mothers suck the brains out of their children, when christian soldiers mass kill people, when drug cartels in the U.S. recruit teenage addicts, etc., etc.
Your opinion is understandable and most of the people in the U.S. do look the other way, in fits of 'willful ignorance'.
You will get none of that from me. If the facts show you break the law, even immigration law, then you will be punished if I have anything to do with it. So, it is very understandable that you would not want me on a jury.
'when mothers suck the brains out of their children'
What about the fathers, Lance? Don't they get a chance, lance?
I've got a bunch of straws, Why don't you come over to my place, We'll start with the vanilla coloured one, then we'll try the chocolate. Yum, yum, baby brains. I can hardly wait for the custard coloured one.
We could try you, but all we'd get is V-8 juice, mainly mushed tomatoes.
'...we have a treaty.....'
or,
'...our allies have assured us...'
or
'...we think the threat is overstated...'
and then wait until he is out of the White House...
...what about those 24 intel agancies who said the threat of an Iranian bomb effort was overstated?
Why don't you run out and see if they still think that...
Over-Charged!!!
She should have given her stock of cigars.
And whos siis going afrter Clinton over next toEurup to sell out the grate Americun people with $3.0000,trillion good dollars to see Queen Liznazi Brown in Britainland next munth Whear people are not even allowed to shoot things and is all to stupid to see that ! Yep! Barack Osama whos isntt my president, no sireee. John Mc Cain predicted this in 1927!
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You must be right SP4,Iran has a secret agenda to make as much nukes as the USA owes,roughly ten thousand.They will start building ICBM's ,a missile shield,an anti missile shield shield,an anti antimissile shield,then they will start a pre emptive war on the USa,all without any risk involved for them.I'm sure this is a perfectly plausible scenario in your deluded brain,Iran being the military and economical equivalent of Finland .Tell me ,are there many like you in the USA ?Let us hope that health care plans will include mental health care too,clearly a pronounced state of paranoia is the only logical explanation for this irrational delusion you have .I suggest haloperidol in your case,it might stabilize your condition ,there is enough of it to cater for the needs of all paranoia stricken neocons.Get a little sense of realism through medication.
Tonny, I fear you will have to tone it down a little for SPfudd. He probably thinks that Finland is a second hand car dealership specialising in '50s Cadillacs, and is, shall we say, self medicated already. Fortunately there are not too many like him in the US, but I would cede the point that one is more than enough.
'Tell me ,are there many like you in the USA ?'
By my estimates there are about 100 million paranoid and delusional U.S. citizens that firmly believe in the 'Manifest Destiny' of the United States under the guidance of jesus himself.
They even had a president ( Bush ) as their leader and they still support Bush, although about 10% of them are pissed that Bush gave away so much money to the liberals and wasn't able to conquer the savages in the promise land and show them how to live like good christians. So, that would make Bush's approval rating about 23%, but still 33% of the U.S. population are still Bush followers.
'Get a little sense of realism through medication.'
Unfortunately, SP4 does his best to avoid realism by escapining it through the use of unlawfull 'medications.' Realism is anathematical to SP.
What, dear sir, exactly is your point?
Please respond. I appear to be missing something.
It's hard not to see the continued sell-off on Wall Street and the growing fear on Main Street as a product, at least in part, of the realization that our new president's policies are designed to radically re-engineer the market-based U.S. economy, not just mitigate the recession and financial crisis.
Martin KozlowskiThe illusion that Barack Obama will lead from the economic center has quickly come to an end. Instead of combining the best policies of past Democratic presidents -- John Kennedy on taxes, Bill Clinton on welfare reform and a balanced budget, for instance -- President Obama is returning to Jimmy Carter's higher taxes and Mr. Clinton's draconian defense drawdown.
Mr. Obama's $3.6 trillion budget blueprint, by his own admission, redefines the role of government in our economy and society. The budget more than doubles the national debt held by the public, adding more to the debt than all previous presidents -- from George Washington to George W. Bush -- combined. It reduces defense spending to a level not sustained since the dangerous days before World War II, while increasing nondefense spending (relative to GDP) to the highest level in U.S. history. And it would raise taxes to historically high levels (again, relative to GDP). And all of this before addressing the impending explosion in Social Security and Medicare costs.
To be fair, specific parts of the president's budget are admirable and deserve support: increased means-testing in agriculture and medical payments; permanent indexing of the alternative minimum tax and other tax reductions; recognizing the need for further financial rescue and likely losses thereon; and bringing spending into the budget that was previously in supplemental appropriations, such as funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The specific problems, however, far outweigh the positives. First are the quite optimistic forecasts, despite the higher taxes and government micromanagement that will harm the economy. The budget projects a much shallower recession and stronger recovery than private forecasters or the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office are projecting. It implies a vast amount of additional spending and higher taxes, above and beyond even these record levels. For example, it calls for a down payment on universal health care, with the additional 'resources' needed 'TBD' (to be determined).
Mr. Obama has bravely said he will deal with the projected deficits in Medicare and Social Security. While reform of these programs is vital, the president has shown little interest in reining in the growth of real spending per beneficiary, and he has rejected increasing the retirement age. Instead, he's proposed additional taxes on earnings above the current payroll tax cap of $106,800 -- a bad policy that would raise marginal tax rates still further and barely dent the long-run deficit.
Increasing the top tax rates on earnings to 39.6% and on capital gains and dividends to 20% will reduce incentives for our most productive citizens and small businesses to work, save and invest -- with effective rates higher still because of restrictions on itemized deductions and raising the Social Security cap. As every economics student learns, high marginal rates distort economic decisions, the damage from which rises with the square of the rates (doubling the rates quadruples the harm). The president claims he is only hitting 2% of the population, but many more will at some point be in these brackets.
As for energy policy, the president's cap-and-trade plan for CO2 would ensnare a vast network of covered sources, opening up countless opportunities for political manipulation, bureaucracy, or worse. It would likely exacerbate volatility in energy prices, as permit prices soar in booms and collapse in busts. The European emissions trading system has been a dismal failure. A direct, transparent carbon tax would be far better.
Moreover, the president's energy proposals radically underestimate the time frame for bringing alternatives plausibly to scale. His own Energy Department estimates we will need a lot more oil and gas in the meantime, necessitating $11 trillion in capital investment to avoid permanently higher prices.
The president proposes a large defense drawdown to pay for exploding nondefense outlays -- similar to those of Presidents Carter and Clinton -- which were widely perceived by both Republicans and Democrats as having gone too far, leaving large holes in our military. We paid a high price for those mistakes and should not repeat them.
The president's proposed limitations on the value of itemized deductions for those in the top tax brackets would clobber itemized charitable contributions, half of which are by those at the top. This change effectively increases the cost to the donor by roughly 20% (to just over 72 cents from 60 cents per dollar donated). Estimates of the responsiveness of giving to after-tax prices range from a bit above to a little below proportionate, so reductions in giving will be large and permanent, even after the recession ends and the financial markets rebound.
A similar effect will exacerbate tax flight from states like California and New York, which rely on steeply progressive income taxes collecting a large fraction of revenue from a small fraction of their residents. This attack on decentralization permeates the budget -- e.g., killing the private fee-for-service Medicare option -- and will curtail the experimentation, innovation and competition that provide a road map to greater effectiveness.
The pervasive government subsidies and mandates -- in health, pharmaceuticals, energy and the like -- will do a poor job of picking winners and losers (ask the Japanese or Europeans) and will be difficult to unwind as recipients lobby for continuation and expansion. Expanding the scale and scope of government largess means that more and more of our best entrepreneurs, managers and workers will spend their time and talent chasing handouts subject to bureaucratic diktats, not the marketplace needs and wants of consumers.
Our competitors have lower corporate tax rates and tax only domestic earnings, yet the budget seeks to restrict deferral of taxes on overseas earnings, arguing it drives jobs overseas. But the academic research (most notably by Mihir Desai, C. Fritz Foley and James Hines Jr.) reveals the opposite: American firms' overseas investments strengthen their domestic operations and employee compensation.
New and expanded refundable tax credits would raise the fraction of taxpayers paying no income taxes to almost 50% from 38%. This is potentially the most pernicious feature of the president's budget, because it would cement a permanent voting majority with no stake in controlling the cost of general government.
From the poorly designed stimulus bill and vague new financial rescue plan, to the enormous expansion of government spending, taxes and debt somehow permanently strengthening economic growth, the assumptions underlying the president's economic program seem bereft of rigorous analysis and a careful reading of history.
Unfortunately, our history suggests new government programs, however noble the intent, more often wind up delivering less, more slowly, at far higher cost than projected, with potentially damaging unintended consequences. The most recent case, of course, was the government's meddling in the housing market to bring home ownership to low-income families, which became a prime cause of the current economic and financial disaster.
On the growth effects of a large expansion of government, the European social welfare states present a window on our potential future: standards of living permanently 30% lower than ours. Rounding off perceived rough edges of our economic system may well be called for, but a major, perhaps irreversible, step toward a European-style social welfare state with its concomitant long-run economic stagnation is not.
..I'd sure like to see all those intel agenices respond now, eh?
Tell me Tonny, where are their estimates now?
I was telling you they were full of crap a year ago, and now...who?...IAEA?...Tonny?...your buddies, right?....saying they have enough bomb grade material?...wasn't someone in the EU parroting the same thing two weeks ago in the press?
I believe you were calling Bush stupid and paranoid because he, correctly, predicted the threat?......tell me Tonny...his foresight looks pretty good now, eh? Makes me wonder about all those WMD's we found (500 and two set off) and their history. Then again, it's hard to argue with what is in plain sight.
Another stellar example of the Libnazi left getting it wrong and no accounting for it. Seriously, what do you think they actually do with that many centrifuges, anyway??? Maybe you send Joe Wilson out again! Call him on the shoe phone, Tonny and ask for 'agent 99'. Maybe he'll use that fabulous diguise i.e. the 'obvious american spy-posing-as-businessman' again!
'The illusion that Barack Obama will lead from the economic center has quickly come to an end...'
Lots of words there, but the main point is lost. It can all be summed up like this:
The economy is not a product of Obama, rather Obama is a product of the economy. He is a symptom, not a solution. He was elected by people that caused the problem and those people's worst illness (credit addiction) have shown the symptom and it is: Obama.
Lots of words there, but the main point is lost. It can all be summed up like this:
Lance is a brain-vacuumed cabbage patch idiot.
why don't you take a hike and disappear up your arse. Your head is already there. You keep puking up the same disproved crap and the same absurd position with the same idiotic language. Put down the crack pipe, get a job - a legitimate job(not drug sales), get laid, get an education and get a brain. Get your ^ss off the grass. Go see lance about that. He has one that he isn't using, maybe you two can share it.
Hillary Clinton is trying, but it is a dangerous world out there.
What treath world that be SP4?Your paranoia is no reference for me .Iran is about the economical and miltary equivalent of Finland .Does anybody else but you think te mouse will attack the elephant ?Unpunished ?I don't think you want to be taken seriously with those paranoic arguments,do you?Again,take your pills and be a good boy.I feel pity for your stupidity...almost .Poor sod.
And what about those 500 wmd you seem to be the only only to still believe in...what are they exactly ?Keep entertaining us by providing more fumes of your fertile imagination,more details please ?Please ?
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