Middle East Features

Reconsidering jihad: the view from within

By Pakinam Amer Jul 20, 2007, 5:19 GMT

Cairo - Inside Egyptian prisons a profound change has been taking place around the Islamic ideology of jihad (literally 'struggle' but often taken to mean 'holy war').

Top militant leaders serving long sentences have been given the chance to gain their freedom by reneging on their previous ideas of establishing Islamist societies by violent means.

Kamal Habib is an example of one such man who made the transition.

A former member of Egyptian Jihad (also known as Egyptian Islamic Jihad), Habib served a 10-year prison sentence in connection with that group's assassination of former Egyptian president Anwar Sadat.

Fawaz Gergis, a university professor and an authority on Islamic militancy and Jihadist groups, speaks of Habib in his book Journey of the Jihadist.

'Habib was a key figure in the first generation of Muslim militants, who in the 1970s had planted the seeds of jihad throughout Muslim lands,' Gergis said.

'(He) graduated from Cairo University in 1979 at the top of his class, with a degree in political science. Charismatic and ambitious, he could have trained to become an academic. But neither money nor the allure of ascending the ladder in jahili (non-Islamic or 'pagan') institutions appealed to him,' Gergis added.

Of his reasons for joining the Egyptian Jihad group Habib to Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa that 'most Egyptians wanted to get rid of Sadat.'

Sadat, who was the first Arab leader to make peace with Israel, also was known for his government's oppressive policies domestically.

'At the beginning,' Habib said,'(Islamists) didn't advocate violence against individuals, that happened much later, in the 1990s, when retaliation by killing police officers and other violent acts took place.'

Many experts, including Islamists, have argued explicitly and implicitly that torture was behind much of the so-called prison revisions of the extremists in the al-Jamaa al-Islamiya (The Islamic Group) and Egyptian Jihad groups.

During a 2001 interview with the US broadcaster CNN, Habib had claimed severe torture in Egyptian prisons was something everyone knew about.

'I prefer not to talk about it. But back then, it was on a very large scale,' he said.

One of the victims of torture after the Sadat assassination was Ayman al-Zawahiri, now second-in-command of the al-Qaeda terrorist network.

Addressing the press in 1983 al-Zawahiri said about his three-year jail term as one of the 300 people tried for involvement in the Sadat case: 'They whipped us with electric cables, they shocked us with electricity, and they used their wild dogs.'

Habib denies the torture of the early days in prison had anything to do with this revision. Revisionism, he said, 'was something that was growing inside me, as a result of thinking, reading and talking to other people.'

Habib eventually used his term in jail to write a doctoral thesis in political science and revise much of his previous ideas.

When asked about the evidence used to advocate then reject violence, Habib says his sources - Sharia (Islamic law) and the Koran - did not change, only the interpretation did.

'This has to do with one's vision and mental state at a given time. I read differently into Islam and the Koran while reviewing the experience. The understanding was different,' said Habib.

The result was a book he published in the early 2000's titled The Islamist Movement from Confrontation to Revision.

But despite revising many of his earlier beliefs, Habib continues to blame the West, saying the conditioning of the country by Western imperialism ultimately produced the violence of the 1990s.

'The prevailing social and political context ... directed us to seek change in that way, so that we could drive out the occupiers of our homeland,' he said, explaining how militant Islamists like himself and his fellow prisoners felt.

Habib unapologetically justifies the position of the top two al- Qaeda leaders Osama bin Laden and al-Zawahiri, arguing that it was the environment they lived under that guided their steps toward fundamentalism.

'If Western policies change,' Habib said, 'then perhaps these forms of violence and confrontation will take a different turn - the concept of the clash of civilizations, of demonizing Islam. All this has created supporters for Bin Laden's and al-Zawahiri's project across the Muslim World.'

For Habib, the terrorists are driven by feelings shared by many Muslims: the lack of hope of a better future, be it for Muslims as a 'nation' or as individuals.

'They see the injustice done to them, and perceive their religion and identity as being threatened. This is the main source of their fear and anger. These people were not born violent.'

© 2007 dpa - Deutsche Presse-Agentur


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NoharnessJul 20th, 2007 - 06:01:13

More apologies from Pakinam Amer! Woo-hoo! I am so impressed.

Quoting the article:''If Western policies change,' Habib said, 'then perhaps these forms of violence and confrontation will take a different turn - the concept of the clash of civilizations, of demonizing Islam. All this has created supporters for Bin Laden's and al-Zawahiri's project across the Muslim World.'

There was no 'demonizing' of Islam prior to the World Trade Center Atrocity. Oh, and the last time I checked, Egypt was never part of the 'west'. For most of this century, Egypt was heavily influenced by the Soviet Union. On top of that, we are expected to change our policies because one man, just one, declares that he has rejected violent jihad. But here's the real question. Has he also rejected Sharia law? If he hasn't, he and his cohorts are going to go right back to blowing up innocent people again. With that body of law as a premise from which to begin, the logical conclusions are inescapable.

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Another POS from PakinamJul 20th, 2007 - 08:24:41

''If Western policies change,' Habib said, 'then perhaps these forms of violence and confrontation will take a different turn - '


In other words, 'do what we tell you to do and nobody gets hurt...'

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impressedJul 20th, 2007 - 14:00:37

“'If Western policies change,' Habib said, 'then perhaps these forms of violence and confrontation will take a different turn - the concept of the clash of civilizations, of demonizing Islam. All this has created supporters for Bin Laden's and al-Zawahiri's project across the Muslim World.'
For Habib, the terrorists are driven by feelings shared by many Muslims: the lack of hope of a better future, be it for Muslims as a 'nation' or as individuals.

'They see the injustice done to them, and perceive their religion and identity as being threatened. This is the main source of their fear and anger. These people were not born violent.'”

No truer words have ever been spoken. Eliminate the jew State and much of “…the injustice done to them…” will be no more. The very first step in a long process leading to mutual trust and respect.

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NoharnessJul 20th, 2007 - 14:31:01

Very few of us will reward a racist with respect, 'impressed'.

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Latest Offerings from the Religion of PeaceJul 20th, 2007 - 15:20:55

Latest Offerings from the Religion of Peace

7/20/07 ( Kandahar, Afghanistan ) - Taliban militants murder three civilians with a roadside bomb.
7/20/07 ( Helmand, Afghanistan ) - Two civilians are killed by a car bomb.
7/20/07 ( Miran Shah, Pakistan ) - Four innocents are killed by a suicide car bomber.
7/19/07 ( Helmand, Afghanistan ) - Religious extremists ambush a police car, killing a dozen Afghans at point-blank range.
7/19/07 ( Baruha, Somalia ) - Islamists shoot a civilian in the head as he is holding a child.
7/19/07 ( Kohat, Pakistan ) - Fedayeen suicide bombers hit a mosque inside an army base, blasting eighteen people to death.

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OranJul 20th, 2007 - 15:53:12

Noharness is a Jew himself living in the US.

He is also a racist, his presence and commenting on M&C is a virus contagious to all.

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thanksJul 20th, 2007 - 16:42:22

'OranJul 20th, 2007 - 15:53:12

Noharness is a Jew himself living in the US.

He is also a racist, his presence and commenting on M&C is a virus contagious to all.'

Explains a lot. Probably a stalwart Likudist as well. The very worst of the racist bigoted jew.

Bibi we love you. Adolph does too.



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NoharnessJul 20th, 2007 - 18:00:16

To please, Oran and thanks,

Keep revealing yourselves for what you are, boys. You're doing a great job. If you want to call me a Jew, be my guest. The only ones you will offend are the real Jews, although I seriously doubt if they give a fig about what you think of me or them.

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Can't have your 'word' and read it tooJul 20th, 2007 - 18:19:25

''Habib says ... the Koran did not change, only the interpretation did.''

How conveniently this ignores the mantras: the koran is the revealed word of god; the koran is truth; and god is perfect. If the koran can be interpretted, then the reader places themself above god; or god's word is imperfect (subject to interpretation); or (heaven forbid!) god does not exist.

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gee, thanksJul 20th, 2007 - 18:25:12

'And a loss to no one in the free and civilized world.'

How kind of you to draw this telling distinction between our world and yours.

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SickOfMuslimScumJul 20th, 2007 - 21:14:42

The Koran sucks and always has. It's just brainwashing mush. Johnny come lately garbage.
Killthe infidels
kill the infidels
kill the infidels
we are all sick to death of this broken record.
Hey, I guess the reason muslims like virgins so well is because they all have tiny penises - a virgin wouldn't know the difference.

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Salty DogJul 20th, 2007 - 21:29:44

If you've seen their women you'd understand why they must be covered from head to toe. Definetly 2 baggers!

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tiredJul 20th, 2007 - 21:29:45

Sick as we are of the suggested 'broken record', please don't discredit the rest of us by resort to childish accusations. Tiny penises? Grow up.

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correctedJul 20th, 2007 - 21:52:46

Mr DiddoJul 20th, 2007 - 18:12:10

Diddo. Jews rule - Muslims smell like dog sh!t.

Dogshit. Are you referring to the kosher kind. The real thing.

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yawnJul 20th, 2007 - 21:58:07

Diddo. Jews rule - Muslims smell like dog sh!t. + Dogshit. Are you referring to the kosher kind. The real thing.

Is it already past your bedtime, kiddies?

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mystery solvedJul 20th, 2007 - 22:02:43

The jew hordes are all out on this one. What could have ticked off the chosen crud so much? Probably someone telling the truth again.

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clarificationJul 20th, 2007 - 23:02:55

“SickOfMuslimScumJul 20th, 2007 - 21:14:42
The Koran sucks and always has. It's just brainwashing mush. Johnny come lately garbage.
Killthe infidels
kill the infidels
kill the infidels
we are all sick to death of this broken record.
Hey, I guess the reason muslims like virgins so well is because they all have tiny penises - a virgin wouldn't know the difference.

Salty DogJul 20th, 2007 - 21:29:44
If you've seen their women you'd understand why they must be covered from head to toe. Definetly 2 baggers!

tiredJul 20th, 2007 - 21:29:45
Sick as we are of the suggested 'broken record', please don't discredit the rest of us by resort to childish accusations. Tiny penises? Grow up”

“…please don't discredit the rest of us…” Those whom you refer to are stupid. The “rest of us” refer to those who pretend not to be stupid. But you are.

No distinction I can see other then form.

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please clarify, clarificationJul 20th, 2007 - 23:35:31

And yet once again your only argument, such as it is, is to claim by fiat that everyone else is stupid or an idiot. So I shall ask it once again. Is this what your holy book teaches you?

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Leave the west and go back to iran you turdJul 22nd, 2007 - 05:40:13


'Spare me you racist jew bigot. There will never be any reconciliation with the Islam world until the jew State is gone. Just a matter of time may I add. And a loss to no one in the free and civilized world.'

The only cure for this is napalm.

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SojournerJul 25th, 2007 - 01:34:06


Whoa, how about a little reasoning?
The US has a long history of acting out of economic interest (Vietnam, the Phillipines, Mexico etc..),. Nothing personal, nothing religious; but we have ignored our principles; like SELF Determination; all men are created equal

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