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Fatah objected to the execution of Saddam. From their own actions they seem to think assasination, torture, and kidnapping are OK, and they are not particularly partial, since they even do it to their own people. A curious set of standards, wouldn't you say?
By the way, where was Fatah when Saddam was massacring Kurds and Shiites? Where was Fatah when Saddam was conducting war against Iran? Boy, they really stood for Islamic unity, didn't they? I;ll bet those Palestinian prisoners really objected to that, huh?
They were taking money from him for their own interests. I'm sure glad Fatah isn't my friend.
Honestly, does anyone buy into this nonsense?
Now... that Hussein has been hanged for (149)... may G. Bush follow... for 57.000 murdered iraquis, after the american invasion under false pretences.
actually, it should have been both cheney and rumsfeld who should have hung with saddam ... as for bush, he's just too stupid to even know what's really going on ... somebody has to remain the village idiot
Interesting that people forget the United States backed Saddam during the Iran/Iraq war, often looking the other way while he wrecked havoc. How do we know Saddam has WMD's?? We have the receipts.
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Due to past subtafuge, would someone from America, England, Russia, And china please veriy that that realy is the dead body of Saddam. With no one else but the Iraq's in the room when he was hung, I would like to verify that it is really him and not another victem of his followers.
A helpless and pathetic Saddam, growing old in prison would have been powerless. A dead Saddam, hanged by an inept government may well have power. What is sad is that those who killed Saddam may well be in the process of condoning, if not actually orchestrating behaviors exactly like those for which he was executed. The only way to control the factions in Iraq is through the brutal exertion of power. We have simply replaced a Sunni dictator with a Shiite dictatorship. The idea of democracy in Iraq is a joke.
Do you have to explode a suitcase nuke before these liberals will take terrorists seriously? We had 8 years of doing nothing and look what it brought us, a build up by al queda and 911 and a war, Thanks Democrats for ignoring things so you could run up the stock market.Then blame it on Bush. Remember Global warming precedes global cooling.
Totally agreed, it is too small you can get from retard
Iraq has been given a chance to start over. The people can make their own future as oposed to the murderous rule of Saddam. It is a shame that so many people are being killed in Iraq, the vast majority are being killed by their own countrymen of the same religious background - not Americans. At least we gave them an opportunity to live in peace... maybe after Saddam they just don't know how.
To all of you that want to see Bush hang, why? Are Iraqis not good enough to experience freedom? Is that just a western idea? Are they too stupid to appreciate freedom? Of course not, shame on you.
Bush, his military forces and the iraq imposed government has succeeded in hanging Saddam, based on their judgemet but they should be remainded that the Judgement of Allah is awaiting all of them in the heaven. Bush pls don't forget that your own time will must surely come no matter how long you live you must test the bitterness of death, therefore you are remaided!!!
Yes Carl.... the 57.000 iraquis are free now...
By the way... what about the Guantanamo prisoners (including the tortured and murdered by Rumsfeld) plus all the unknown others spread all over the world under 'american custody'? Huh?
...the United States had the power to take out Saddam Hussein, with a Lazar Guided Bomb, but chose to use 3000 of it's military...daaaa!
...oh ya, and add to it the 500,000 civilian Iraq lives the US included in it's genocide cleansing...double daaaa!
Besides the 149 killed by Suddham,180,000 Kurds were killed under Saddham's rule. Graves are found all the time of murdered Iraqi's. The Iraqi man who testified at the trial of Saddham lost his brothers, 22 cousins, and however many more under the rule of Saddham. But G. Bush is stupid? We have had one (1) invasion on American soil, The New York Trade Center. And none since. But G. Bush is stupid?
G. Bush is human just like you and I. He is not perfect. He has not done everything the way I would, or for that matter, the way you would have handled things. In the same vain, I have not heard a single person come up with a plan of just how they would have done anything differently. Instead of criticizing, come up with a plan. I get so tired of hearing people criticize without saying what they would do differently!
well next is g.w.bush, he has killed more iraqi's than saddam has in his life time, its a fact that no one can deny. saddam 'stopped killing people' the day bush attacked iraq, but that was the starting day for bush, n he's still continuing. feel so sorry for the iraqi's.
... excuse MEEEEEEEEEEE common sense. I don't torture people like YOUR president does. Therefore please don't you DARE compare me to him. And yes - I AM human!!! (Contrary to him ana apparently to you).
When these Islamic Extremist Terrorists explode a nuke in the US, are you still gonna stand there and blame our serviceman and G.bush, What does it take for you people to wake up and realize these people want to kill you. Lets see, we can kill people on a battlefield but if we take them to a war camp it is torture? Abu grade and Gitmo are resorts, what do these extremists do with you when you are captured, Thanks Bill for creating this mess.
In Iraq all sorts of killing have been shown! goodmen, bad men, or the mixed are all suffered in death!
Wishing ssome day no more killing in Iraq will show up and all Iraqis will have a good day in their long time waiting for!
No countries in this world has suffered so much like Iraq!
Hatred is a greatest poison has been sown in Iraq for too long!
Until the day all iraqis will realize that hatred and mistrust given to each other are not benefitted tothem then they might come together and stop killing each other and peace may come back to them!
Iraq is sunk in hatred and the fire of hell kills them more and more everyday!
Oh poor this nation!
No one in this world can stop the Iraqis kill each other! only themselves!
al-Qaida brings death to all Arabs no matter who they are! hatred breeds killing and it turns out more suicidal killers show up in crazy fashion in all corners of the crazy world!
tom t
It's funny to hear those in hear almost defend Saddam and compare G. Bush to him. If he was anything like Saddam you would have been executed already for what you have said. The previous 8 years up to 9/11 we did nothing but ignore Iraq and Al qaeda and what did it get us? It got us attacked by Al qaeda! We can no longer ignore the problems in the middle east. History shows that as well.
Ohhhhh yes... you ignored Iraq... by 'feeding' them as we all know. ;)
As we also know that terrorism is increasing thanks to YOU america.
To say that America is causing terrorism is a very ignorant statement.
doesn't matter... pls read what I wrote (and maintain). Grateful!
I agree! Another ignorant statement from some misinformed person. There arent more terrorist now then before, what a dumb statement. Thats OK, just sit back like scared little children while the US keeps you safe.
HATRED HATRED HATRED! this is the poison the whole world is swallowing everyday!
Therefore, more guns, bombs, and all sorts of killing machines have been produced in greatest scale at all corners of this crazy world to kill torture and destroy themselves!
The world now is sunk in HATRED and al-Qaida and the murderous crazy religious criminals in the crazy nations have transformed all goommen into murderous killers in so many countries especially in Middle East!
The world is heading into HATRED and people seem to treat each other with bullets and bombs instead of smiles and love!
The tendency of leading people into the poisonous HATRED has proved that the world will have more badmen than good men! and obvously more murderous killers will continue to devastate innocent people and destroy lives of the innocents for no reasonat all as we all have seen in Middle East area such as Iraq, Afghanistan and other places of the world!
Wishing the day human being reject HATRED and focuse on peace and love then the world will have less killing than now!
Sad century of mankind is this time! We can see more and more news filled with murdering and killing wwith all sorts of techniques of destroyingg lives in the world as have been seen for too long!
tom t
clinton tried to assasinate osama; read your current events from that time (hint: turn your channel AWAY from fox news - to anything else - from time to time). like bush, clinton was unable to get him. that doesn't make this clinton's fault. the blood is on bush's hands for 500,000 iraqi's + 3,000 americans as he led us into war under false pretences.
note: i would be happy to be at war with the perpetrator for the 9/11 assualt on the u.s. but remember even bush admits that iraq & saddam were not responsible for that attack. so why are we there? to grant them freedom? then why are we not granting freedom to the chinese or anyone else on the planet for that matter?
all i ask is that you think. sit down and really think about this from all sides, not just the one sugar coated and served up for you...
peace
'To say that America is causing terrorism is a very ignorant statement.'
Less than it is to deny that the Bush administration's incompetence is actually feeding terrorism.
He got what was coming to him!!!!!! Look at how many innocent people he killed with his chemicals. The Irqi's lost ALOT of good & innocent people because of the butcher of Bagdad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you believe that the 8 years of Bill Clinton are to blame for terrorism or 9/11 you are wrong. It has been around and cultivated much longer than those 8 years. Bill Clinton may have missed opportunitys to capture or kill Osama Bin Laden. but were his missed opportunities as blatant as 'BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO ATTACK WITHIN US'? Let us remember that Osama was recruited and trained by the US CIA to help with the fight in Afganistan against the Soviets. Wasnt a problem while he was 'helping' us, much like our backing of Saddam while he fought with Iran. Things change, times change, let us think of the impact of our foreign policy on the rest of the world that lives in despair while we shop and wonder why buildings are exploding within our borders......
I am not really surprised anymore by the venom of the anti-Bushes. Conveniently they forget Clinton's war against Serbia just to pacify the Muslim. Well, we saw what happened; 9/11. It only reinforced in them the idea that Mohamed sold them more than 13 centuries ago, namely to convert everybody to Islam by the sward. The best we can do is let them kill each other. Then there will be less of them that we have to kill. It still stands true that a moderate Arab is an Arab that ran out of ammunition.
I think the situation is Iraq has increased the opportunities for extremist recruiting for sure. A great focus for would-be terrorists.
The worst thing about post invasion Iraq, I should say I supported the invasion but I think the work done since then has been a disgrace, is that it has accelerated the race for nuclear weapons amongst 'rogue states.'
It has also emboldened other ugly regimes who now know America is bogged down and over-stretched in Iraq.
So I think the net result is a weaker America and a very negative image abroad, including the other Western countries.
Afghanistan is where we should be putting our resources, Iraq as a single democratic state is no longer a credible goal. Plus democracy does not always have pleasing results...Hamas etc.
The Iranian government must be very happy indeed, their old enemy destroyed and their influence in the oil rich southern part of Iraq growing each day. Plus the US and UK now looking to them for help and for them to stop their nuclear programme. A pretty good position I would guess.
Iraq and sadam had nothing what so ever to do with the events of september 11
Dick, donald and the other neo-cons convinced an illegaly elected retard to
invade Iraq for oil and nothing else. This has always been the plan for money and oil. Yes sadam was a looney but not even a patch on thes dangerous terrorists. And to 'California', America and misguided sheep like you are the biggest cause of hatred and terrorism in the world today. Everyone else in the world who does not have a vote for the American presidency lives in fear of
what stupid greedy mistakes that chimp will make next.
Remember that America is the only nation who has ever used a nuclear bomb on any
other nation.
hanging was inappropriate but clarifies partially why the USA is known as the LSA [lying states of america] > i'm sure most americans have no understanding of how two-faced tttthe current regime is .........
Saddam was a weak dictator who did not have the A-bomb. He would be free if he had one and they would be interesting in talking to him. How about bringing Kim Jong of North Korea, who has committed equally cruel crimes against humanity to justice, the way they did it to Saddam? Does Bush have the spine to do it ?
Someone has come up with a plan, but nobody mentions it: Sen. Joe Biden. He has an excellent plan, but nobody talks about it because that would steal thunder from Hillary's presidential ambitions.
Cool. Mr. Bush please light your cigar. Mr. Cheney you may now go on your lawyer hunting safari. All the troups please load up your gear. Yeah!!!! The war is over! What do mean it's not over yet? We killed their leader! We're done. The enemy soldiers all surrendered. Why do we have to stay and kill all the civilians. Oh I almost forgot. We have to protect the precious OIL. God sometimes it's so embarrassing being American. Especially a Desert Storm vet. Maybe I'll feel better when Bush and Cheney get the same trial as Saddam got. Happy New Year.
Brian, you are correct, in that we are the only nation to use 'the bomb' as you call it. Others (Britain) helped us with it, but it's on our head.
In 1941, we were the most pacifist nation on earth. The result:
We were attacked.
We saved...how many nations, 50 maybe, from the scum of humanity.
You and your liberalis cry foul even if the circumstances require action. Bush, a man who, absolutely does not give a crap if people love him, intervened, correctly. Did Saddam cause 9/11?
No.
Did he aid, (Zarqawi) and shelter(Nidal) finance (Fatah, Hamas)and allow safe passage for terrorists? Yes. Did he conduct a genocidal war with his neighbors? Yes.
We are the United States of America. Our friends live under our protection, are wealthy as the result of our trade with them, and our enemies cower when confronted. We were once a nation of pacifists, but we were attacked. We are slow to anger.
If this is wrong,so be it.
Now, the Liberal wants action in Darfur. My advice: go kiss Bush's ass and beg him. He is a gracious man, and he has his hands full trying to free 50 million people, but he is also generous. Ask nicely, because you cowardly, duplicitous liberals have no goodwill left to trade on.
bulkid said: 'It still stands true that a moderate Arab is an Arab that ran out of ammunition.'
Maybe you could try to rise above the level of disgusting bigotry, and use your brain, which is right now only grey mush that weakly absorbs media induced hysteria.
The world is sitting at the cliff of destruction!
All nations are now preparing for how to deal with killing coming from other nations! No nations in this world can escape from the importing effords of all sorts of destructions and murdering activities!
This disaster has rooted from the philosophy of using HATRED to destroy others!
In summary, the world has to find ways to convince the entire population in this world to abandon HATRED in their mind and come to cooperate with each other to bring peace and love to replace HATRED sown deep and brainwashed their childish minds for so long!
USA alone can never bring peace to any nation! and even with cooperations of all its allies to find ways to bring peace to the hot spots of the world such as Iraq, Afghanistan, etc will be nonesense! why? beause the minds of the local people in these hot spots are brainwashed with HATRED and their main effords are to destroy each other and condemn as much as possible each other as will continue to be seen for an unlimitted amount of time!
The world has entered into a much more risky situation that more killings of all sorts will be 'invented' to treat each other!
No one in this world can bring peace to others while more and more people have headed toward the solution as using HATRED as an killing inspiration to conduct more killings to others! That why we can see al-Qaida, Hamas, Hebolas etc the dedicated murderers of the world have sharpened their minds to create more killings to all other innocents of the world!
Sad world! is the place we are living in!
All Americans must find ways to avoid being in danger with the murderous crazy brainwashed bad guys with all sorts of stupid religious belief in their minds!
tom t
Today is a very sad occasion for the democracy of Iraq.I want to congratulate the democratically elected president of Iraq.You have set a fine example as the leader of Iraq. It's great to learn that since the old days of saddam's barbaric regime that little has changed in terms of moving forward towards living peacefully as civilised human beings!!!...
God bless Saddam on this blessed day in the Muslim calender and may god show him mercy and forgive him for all his sin's. Allaha almighty forgives all his creation!
If we were a pacifist nation what happened to the numerous tribes of indigenous americans, why did we invade mexico in 1848, what happened to our pacifism during world war one? I believe you are mistaken to think that we stayed out of wwII for any other reason than economic stability, and selfishness. If our enemies cower before us, how was it that they struck the trade center? It is convenient to say that a murderer deserves what was coming to him, not quite so easy to accept when we have become that murderer. Saddam husseins execution does not make us stronger, it only points out that we are as savage as we were thousands of years ago, after all hammurabis code dictated an eye for an eye. Many of you preach hatred and rationalize it by saying that we are hated, have you no shame?
IT happend so quickly.
dear sprintracer4 you have been watching too much fox news (Israeli News)
Sadam never dealt with zarcawi. In fact zarcawi was working with the Kurds
to fight against him. As for fatah and Hamas they are only recognised as terrorists by 2 nations on this planet america and israel. These are the 2 nations that have brought all the hatred and wars to this oil rich region of the world. Being a liberal socialist is infact not a crime as fox would brainwash you to believe. It means being against every thing people like you and the other neo-cons believe in. Things like robbing oil to make your country richer at the expence of the poorest of the poor.
American foreign policy at this time is terrorism. It is breeding paranoya
among american people and fear for the rest of the world.
Bill Clinton brought peace to many places. George has yet to try.
Joe Republican you are an idiot.Maybe you should pose for a photo as the poster child for retro-active abortion.
Jim,
You are correct. Not only has Kim Jung commited crimes against humanity, he has the power to do it again (IE fire thousands of short-range missle into and nuke S. Korea) to a much greater degree. That is the difference.
Say you are at a party. A man comes in with a bomb strapped to his chest and says he is going to kill everybody unless he gets what he wants. You negotiate.
Now say this same man walks into the room and yells the same thing. You don't see a bomb or a detonator. You do see one across the room, on the floor, and also you know that he has been talking with people outside of the party that have bombs. Plus he has orchestrated the bombing of other innocent civilians. He starts running towards the bomb. He might already have one that you can't see. What do you do?
Now, granted, Saddam couldn't tell the international community that he didn't have any weapons of mass destruction. Iran would have pounced on him the next day. But at the same time, he had 10 years+ advance warning that we were coming. Do you truly believe that with 10 years+ advance warning his government was not able to figure out a way to get the weapons outside of the country before we go there, if needed? What about the convoys of government trucks leaving Baghdad as the U.S. was coming in? Could the world afford to wait and hope that Saddam would not do what he said he wanted to do, particularly when he kept blocking the U.N. from confirming that he did not have these weapons? He violated the will of the community, it was their mandate (the United Nations), not the United States'.
Why is France on the security council anyways? I can understand China, Russia, the U.K., and the U.S. They all have real military power. If you answer 'because they are nice guys' I would ask you what has France offered in the entire last century towards the greater good of our world?
Juan
To the goof who blames this on Clinton. When Clinton left office he left a list (as all outgoing admins do) in which Osama Bin Laden and the other various Islamic terror groups were #5. The Bush admin promptly moved the US economy to #1, and totally took Bin Laden off the list. I am a life long Republican, but I am not too idiotic not to realize that this admin has been the worst in the last 35 years.
ANTONIETA,.....if you live in this country,G.W Bush is YOUR president too.if you do not agree with what is taking place here, please leave.Those of us who care about our countrys security will stay and see to it
I don't like how the news editor or writer uses the word 'condemnation' from the pope. The pope does not condone condemnation, that is for God to do.
I think the patriotic Juan, Patriot #1, sprintracer 4 and bulkid should set up a crack team to fix all the worlds problems. because we all need your protection
and are so greatful to you for slaughtering 650,000 iraquis while protecting us.
Here in Ireland when were not speaking to Lepreachans we are just sending letters to all the americans for letting us live another day.
The rest of the world realy respects you and your way of protecting us.
Chuck Norris could lead your crack team and then you could win this war in one hour and the whole world would rejoice and send flower petals to you.
You truly are the bringers of democracy and stability even if it means having to kill babies in their beds and torture a few inocent people we still love you.
God bless chuck Norris and god forgive America
Brian, thank god you don't believe all the shit being fed to the public.
There is much information out there to show who is to blame. The people Saddam killed were not ordinary people in his country but mossad trained gorillas.
I am a white Christian Scotsman and today I stand bemussed by what has just happened.
Israel has broken MORE un resolutions than Saddam had so why not go in there? I will tell you why because the United States is a part of Israel thats why.
Go read the rest of you and educate yourselves, go read Victor Ostrovsky (ex Massad Agent) better still go here and they will read it to you.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=8755692948786169763&q=Beyond+ Treason+-+The+Power+Hour
Barbaric - smart educated peoples in this world - and hanging was the best you could come up with for punishment.
Does
I give up,...GEN.Hirohito once sait that an invasion of mainland America would be impossible,there would be a rifle behind every every blade of grass. All the liberals out there have unwittingly aided terrorist in the attacks on our country. No one respects us mostly because of the media's coverage of the stupid Godless things you all bitch about. and on to George Bush,.. have'nt any of you ever made a mistake befor and needed some support to help fix the problem ?you people do not know what it's like to live in war torn countrys. most of you watch T.V and then decide you don't like what you see so then you act like little childeren and whine about it instead of pulling together as a country and supporting our elected leaders to better the situation.GROW UP AMERICA !!!!! do the right thing by OUR country.
to all those anti-american liberals; go live in iraq, iran, syria etc and then find out what freedom is and your right to spout your stupidity without the government throwing you in prison,{or siberia} for political crimes!And having your childred strapped up with bombs and blown away.
I'm with you jack
Wasn't Hirohito the Emperor? Didn't Yamamoto say that?
I stand corrected..
RIGHTWING FLIGHT... I would NEVER choose to live in your country.
I used to admire you... but you have managed to change my feeling to... contempt for you lot. Sorry... for you and my previous ingenuity.
RIGHTWING FLIGHT said 'if you live in this country,G.W Bush is YOUR president too.if you do not agree with what is taking place here, please leave.'
With that great logic, 65% or so of Americans would have to leave the country, as Bush's popularity keeps dropping...
Rather than execution, he should have been ordered to restore Iraq to the relative peace, security and prosperity which the country enjoyed before the fiasco of the Blair/Bush invasion
The fact is America reteated from an interventionist stance after WW1. Laws were enacted to prevent a large standing army. The army and the air arm was trimmed to the bone, and the only arm that was addressed was the Navy, which saved us when war came.
By 1939 America, by popular consent, turned almost totally to diplomacy. Understand that a portion of americans knew what was coming, but popular opinion prevented a proactive stance.(sound familiar?)
Roosevelt engaged the japanese, but capitulated as did his predecessors. The result? A nation that felt they could attack America.
This is the smoking gun in history, illustrating how you can send the wrong message, ignore the facts, and kill millions more than was ever necessary. A proactive stance in 1933, would have given Hitler and Japan pause,a very deliberate build up of the miltary would have contained them. rusia would have not been able to annex Eastern Europe. Imagine the consequences of a Cold War in 1939. Millions saved, our nation lifted out of poverty by investing in a robust military.
Instead, we slept. The situation, that needed an ounce of prevention, required a pound of cure. Millions dead, millions more traumatized by the horrors of war. 6 million jews, 5 million more, mentally ill, gays, and gypsies, 20(?) million Russians...jesus.
Pacifism has killed more people than communicable disease. A ready military and a policy of judicous use has discouraged more aggression than all the talk ever did. History is replete with examples.
Bush did what other Presidents failed to do, confront the problem. Mistakes? Hell yes. Failing to act? Hell no. I'll take Bush's way any day of the week.
It's not about great logic.the fact is , our country is going to hell in a hand basket. those of us who care to do somthing about it don;t need any whiny crap from people not willing to buckle down and do there part
Fools,, The idea that democracy actually exists anywhere is stupidity. Sure we can go any where we want in our own countries but we are always under the watchfull eye of our governments. The Hanging of Saddam was a tragedy. Maybe with counselling he would have been a better president or maybe not. Sadly, our Prime minister John Howard, is hearing the rhetoric from Tony Blair and that dwarf G.W. Bush and believing it totally. It puts our lives here in Aussie at risk and has changed the outlook of all Australians. 'viva la Revolution'.
RIGHTWING FLIGHTDec said 'It's not about great logic.the fact is , our country is going to hell in a hand basket.'
And that in part thanks to the irresponsible actions of an incompetent administration.
Saddam met his end before testimony could be taken from him regarding his source of chemical weapons used against Kurds. Remember, as Vice President, George Herbert Walker Bush cast three tie breaking votes in Congress, to enable the U.S. to continue making chemical weapons. He supplied these weapons to Saddam, asking only for statistics regarding effectiveness. He too must be takenb to a gallows and hanged for the crimes committed against humanity in which he participated.
We already have 150k troops in Iraq plus (supposedly) 300k trained Iraqis. Declare martial law and order the disarming of the population then use the nearly 1/2 million troops available to go door to door searching each house and shooting anyone on the streets with weapons. This is what was done in Germany and it only took a shortwhile to bring calm to the country. Bush and Rice have mis-managed this war like it was some corporate campaign that just needs more advertising and 'power lunches' to succeed. they are delusional in their calls for democracy in nations that have no history of freedom. Only brute force and a costly price for those countries financing terrorists (Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Sudan) will dampen the Jihadists urge to kill. Declare War on these bastards and unload on them- enough of the Forest Gump President's mumbling about democracy and freedom. As for dopes like 'joe Republican' and 'turtlehead', who call for the hanging of our leaders, better have a bedroll and some reading material handy because when the real war starts (after unfortunately they kill thousands more in their attacks) , the citizens of this country will rise-up and demand these sick traitors be thrown into the internment camps that are already being prepared for traitors and sympathizers- but they will be offered free legal advice from the ACLU leftist traitors who will be sharing their barbed-wire encamptment. We didn't ask for War, but since they want to die so badly for their 72 virgins we are obligated to fullfill their wishes. Iraq doesn't need more US troops, they need a leader with a pair of lead huevos to finish a job started by a spoiled, delusional, corporate frat boy and his piano playing naive Sec of State. The choice isn't 'more troops', it's win or surrender. Program the codes on the triilons of $ worth of useless military weapons and let's finish this war- so we can have some peace. Thanks for letting me 'share' and Happy New Year to all freedom-loving people.
to Dave.G.....I am talking about the people of america,.. I do not like the current administration,.. but i am an American and i'll be damned if i'm going to sit out of the game because of the hand i was delt this round
Yes... SP4/Educating Trevor... next time for the sake of peace... pls think twice!!!
... and by the way... if you're an educator... SP4/Educating Trevor... no wonder USA in in its present !state!...
People now make sense of what your saying. Keep what your saying understandable with clear facts!! Whether or not the US backed him a murderer is a murderer. There is only so much the US can do control peace in that region. He was just the US's puppet in the past. Accept his death by hanging. They (IRAQUIS) live with violence and this is not unusual for them. Who else is next to be hung? Are you going to feel sympathy for them too? You murder others your death will only come eventually too. One way or the other. Managing a country without resorting to violence takes brains. He surely did not. This is what happens when you do not have an education. You screw up.
Hussein is gone. Good riddance. Who cares about Iraq or its people? The truth is we're sick and tired of hearing about it. I know I am. I could care less if those people ever have freedom or not or if Iraq gets nuked or whatever. I don't give one hoot about Iraq. They can all kill each other for all I care.
There is no peace without War. it is the order of the universe.
Loneranger...if you're american... I( wish you the same fate.
NOW I'm tired of all this crap.
Good riddance for the so called... USofA!!!
Antonieta....your last comment earned you a new enemy for life.....you are worthless
loneranger said 'Who cares about Iraq or its people? The truth is we're sick and tired of hearing about it.'
Well, you wouldn't have had to hear so much about it, if it hadn't been invaded by us for non-existent WMDs, non-existent links with Al Qaeda (at that time at least), or non-existent democracy.
We were the ones who put Irak on the news. And now, we don't want to hear about it. Now, that's funny.
While ta;;ying Saddam's body count during his 24 year tyranny, did President Dumbya, also count the number of people who died in the state of Texas while he was the HRIC??? What should his punishment be? Oh yeah I forgot he is above correction... others must suffer his bad deeds...
So Sadaam gives his life while the Taliban continues to 'plot' against Amerikkka?
Americans tend to forget that the U.S. as a Republic is only 200 years old, and was created by subjigating over one million indigenous people in the process. Iraq, as well as the other middle eastern states, have existed in more or less their present state for hundreds, and in some cases, thousands of years. What arrogance to think that we as Americans can go in and change entire cultures, civilizations, factions, and long held beliefs, with the promise of democracy. Iraq, like most other middle eastern states, is a Theocracy---they don't, and never will, seperate church from state. Islam is an integral part of their politics and it is utter stupidity to think it will ever be otherwise.
Antonietta, the US of A will always be here, as much as you'd like to see it destroyed. And yes I'm American. In case you don't know it, most Americans feel the way I do. The only ones that don't are the Bushhogs. And even many of them are starting to have second thoughts on Bush and his fiasco. Iraq is lucky I'm not president. There would be nothing left. And I'm sure many Americans feel the same. You're not American obviously. Well what I said still stands.
loneranger... you wished...
My ascentry is far older that 200 years and... lasted far longer than yours ever will.
Yours is already on the decline.
Watch history and look beyond your belly button.;)
. . .you need to wake up: While our troops are dying by the thousands in Iraq, the Germans are supplying the Iranians with nuclear technology that would tip the balance of power in the Middle East in favor of radical Muslims. The Germans didn't send one single soldier to fight alongside the international coalition forces. The concepts of solidarity, humanity, freedom and democracy mean nothing to the German elite, who instead are busy trying to regain control of Europe and work against the interests of the free world. To the Krauts anything or anyone American, British or French is bad and inimical.
Think of it: In case the U.S. and our allies will need to engage Iran in a war to destroy its nuclear threat, the Germans will have delivered to that country's regime nuclear technology, arms and ammunitions which will be used to kill American and coalition troops.
and how can you even make a statement like that without any history on Lonerangers 'ascentry' ?
RIGHTWING FLIGHT... perhaps...
I'm an atom (never seen a camel though... except in Manhattan and the zoo). However... You're the whole piece of 'it'.
Get it?
:D
Hey, Folks...
You're right to judge those who produce weapons that kill Americans as doing wrong. Here's the question: how many of the 3,000 (official military count, only) killed in Iraq were killed by US weapons--given to Iraqi police trainees, sold to insurgents by another secret Bush/Cheney subsidiary, stolen from US stockpiles, etc.?
All I can say is that even do I am not an american citizen, I am glad to live in this country, and that I can't wait to become an American Citizen. I love the United States of America.
that analogy does not apply to antonieta's 'ascention' .....stupid liberals......choke on your own words..
By asking: 'how many of the 3,000. . .killed in Iraq were killed by US weapons. . .sold to insurgents by another secret Bush/Cheney subsidiary. . ?' you're implying that Bush & Cheney are selling arms directly to the enemy which in turn is being used to kill military personnel. If that were the case, some journalist would have already uncovered such a capital crime, which in my view would constiute high treason.
dear bulkid and all,
Remember 'the only good red is a dead red.' Funny how this kind of thinking doesn't go away, just moves on to other people who are bothering us today. Why don't you just kill everybody until you are the only one left. Then nobody will bother you.
The America/Al-Queda, Muslim/Christian, them/us mind is an easy way to avoid looking at ourselves. Our behavior is self-defeating. The way we ALL live in the world today, but most especially in the US, is not sustainable for much longer. We are living on ancient sunlight, the sun's energy that was stored in oil - that is millions of years of sunlight. Our food, housing, transportation, heating, entertainment, medicines, education, communication ability and the sheer number of people are all possible now only because of the tremendous amounts of energy used to support it. We will be through all that stored energy soon. Then what will we do? Converting to other ways of living will be traumatic.
Only animals and people who think they will go to heaven when they die, could behave so destructively towards animals, the planet and each other.
to the idiot who thinks clinton was to blame for 911 and osama, just think, who killed all the arabs,clinton, or the bush family?
maybe they ought to save that rope for a few more people that are responsible for all the killings over in the mid east !
I appreciate your reply, loneranger: 'It doesn't surprise me one bit about the Germans. After all they were responsisble for not one but two world wars. To me they've always been the supreme troublemakers in this world. I'm surprised the Germans here in the US don't go around goose stepping. Maybe the Aryan groups do. It's that Nazi mentality that still lingers in Germany like a bad smell that won't go away. No surprise.'
As a U.S. citizen living in Germany, I've been watching German politicians of all major parties acting like little Hitlers since the country's re-unification. It's quite scary when you hear and read the hate-filled German propaganda on TV or in the newspapers criticizing the USA as if our country were inhabited by 300 million criminals when at the same time Jews in Germany are being persecuted and threatened again just like in the early years of the Third Reich.
RIGHTWING FLIGHT... I don't even have to worry myself with that (least of all help with it).
YOU yourselves are doing a great job at it.
Farewell...
Folks, the Germans have never gotten over their loss in WWII. They'd like nothing better than to revenge that whuppin they got. Like I said, it's that Nazi mentality, the master race bull. If given the opportunity they're liable to start another world war. If it should come about, there will be no winners in the next one. We're all on the same ship. The Titanic.
ANTONIETA: Your life is not worth an american cats butt.You are not an American. please be on the next flight out of my country.
My dear RIGHTWING something...
Relax... I would NEVER but NEVER/EVER be a citizen of america. I could have been though, had I wished.
However, I know your country from a visitor's point of view (many a times) and believe me... I didn't like what I saw - yes, from Manhattan and 5 star hotels.
I suggest RIGHTWING that YOU travel a little more and... OPEN your eyes.
NOW, I'm tired of 'preaching to the deaf' (with few exceptions - Brian being one).
Take care...
whatever antonieta,.... just shut up
Brian, I'm the 'absolute idiot who was afraid to put a name on his on his piece about the Germans sellin Nuclear materials.'
As they say here in Germany: 'Das ist ein offenes Geheimnis.' (=That's an 'open secret'.)
You want some piece of evidence?
Read the following article titled: 'Germany Nuclear Parts Smuggled to Iran.'
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,408269,00.html
Loneranger, you hit the nail on the head again: 'it's that Nazi mentality, the master race bull. If given the opportunity they're [the Germans] liable to start another world war.'
It was Clinton's fault to have closed down major U.S. military bases in Germany and letting the Germans act out their superiority complex. Unfortunately, the Bush administration is also unaware of the future threat to world peace by the Germans.
Oh I meant to say there are real forums out there where you can have a clever discussion about world affairs and not just this where most in here are daft YANKS. 11% or so hold a passport.........thank F*ck wish it were only 1%.
...war is a tool the US uses to control the human population expansion, it uses it on undesirable countries, that stand in way of US economic growth and development. The United States, along with it's -butt buddy support nations, are on a mission to control all the Worlds energy natural resources. Don't waste your time worring about when the next Big -Universe- Bang will arrive, or if a large meteor will strike the Earth destroying all life as we know it. Rather, keep your seleves busy paying higher taxes, fuel prices, enjoying the creature comforts of living, and trying to keep up with the Jones's; believing your government is has your best interest in mind. Most likely, when the big one hits, you will be caught off guard, as usual, and it wont matter much anyway for not an atom of your past existence will remain for the Second Coming. But life will go on and the Imperial United States will rebuild itself as the leading Military Industrial Nation, only to one day, on or about 2030, face off and confront another super power nation, namely: China; in an all out dooms day conflect, namely the mother of all wars, to end all wars; and life on this planet as we know it. Scary but, likely the truth...
For the love of God, I swear, if someone here could put a gramatically correct, coherent sentence together, I would die of shock. I have never heard so many paranoia induced, conspiracy theorist, nut cases in my entire life. Antoinetta? If all you know of the U.S. is New York, or smaller still, Manhattan, you know nothing about the U.S., absolutely nothing. That is such a tiny piece of such a large country, you have nothing to base any opinions on regarding the U.S. And for my fellow Americans? You who think that your opinion is the majority opinion, whatever it is, are so arrogant, I'm ashamed to be from the same country as you are. This country and its people are so diverse, and to think that your opinion speaks for the majority just shows how small minded you are.
I believe that Saddam committed several crimes against humanity and deserved to die. But the way they carried out his execution only confirms what has been obvious from the way they conducted his trial.
The current Iraqi government is barbaric and uncivilized and not at all a democracy that can be trusted to respect the rights of the minority.
How can they allow the executioner to be chanting Al Sadr's praises? On top of that, they allowed the video to go public!
Saddam was supposedly executed by a secular government on the basis of a fair trial. Now we know what a sham it is.
Now there is no way the Sunnis will ever accept the current government.
Why is the US still in Iraq? To support a democratic government? If your definition of democratic government = majority rules, even if they enact a law enabling genocide of the minority.
It is just a matter of time before all Sunnis and Christians are all ethnically cleansed, and Iraq forms a united Shiite front w/ Iran. Nice piece of work Mr. GWB!!!
If it is any consolation to you Jon Dow...
When Iraq forms a united Shiite front w/ Iran, that means no more Al Queda operating in Iraq. We all know how Osama hate Shiites.
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