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While US policy toward Iraq may have flaws they can pretty much count on being correct if they play the 'opposite' game with whatever Al-Sadr wants. He calls for withdrawal; I say stay. He says he wants to 'cooperate' with Sunnis; I say he wants the US out of the way for a Mahdi/Iraqi police scuffle. I can see the 'cooperation' now.
This guy is the biggest trouble maker Iraq probably has at this point.
He is directed by Iran and is in Iran.-------Never should have been allowed to leave Iraq alive
The big question now is whether or not the Sunnis will be gullible enough to fall into his trap. It seems unlikely that the Kurds will go along with any of it.
Israel is the root of all evils in the world, and these comments are proof of their control over mass media. Shiites and Sunnies weren't killing each other before. Lets bring our boy home and see what happen.
Sunnis have been killing Shiite men and rapeing their women for 20 years.
They have also killed over 1 million Kurds with gas.
Lets bring our boy home and see what happen
First you need to learn how to write the language before you pretend to be American-----you have no boy to bring home--at least not an American boy
By the way Noharness,thanks for your courtesy.
As for the nervosity of Saudi Arabia,if any it should not be a surprise .You would be nervous to if your neughbour's house is on fire,it might spread .
I guess they wouldn't like it if Shiites from Iran and Iraq tie closer bonds .However there is little the Saudis can do about that .THey have no army capable of dealing with it .In any case a more strong Shiite current would not be the worst ,as it is still in my opinion a lesser evil compared to the wahabit version of Islam as practised in Saudi-Arabia .
The spreading of fundamentalist Islam is almost soleley the reasult of Saudi efforts to indoctrinate the moderate islamist .They throw a lot of money at the madrassas and mosks in Europe and the Far East to impose wahabism .
To simplify to the extreme.Wahabism is to Islam what conservative evangelist are for christianity .THey both have too much money,practise proselytism ,aim at the most ignorant fractions of the population,they both have the goal to integrate their relgion into politics ,both trying to influence the political establisment and lawmakers .I could go on about the similarities between fundamentalist evangelists and wahabits but I guess I dont want to write a book about it.Just rember they are both a danger for democracy.
RE: Loard--huh???
Well atleast I am trying. if you wanna teach me English that would be great, I have no problem with that. but what I have problem with is your ignorance of the fact. In any case let them kill themselves and stop using American boys as excutioners okay.
RE: Loard--huh???
You really don't need to speak english to be an American.
Shia cleric Moqtada Al-Sadr is an Iraqi. Iraq is his home, he and his family have fought for justice in Iraq for decades. Al-Sadr has a right to speak out against the devilish U.S./U.K. Coalition. When the U.S. was supporting the repressive, evil Baath Party regime of Saddan Hussien, the Al-Sadr family was standing up demanding freedom and equity for all Iraqis. The Crucifixers are unwelcomed invaders who are destroying Iraq and disrespecting the Iraqi people. The U.S./U.K. coalition are the minions of Satan. The world is a more dangerous and unstable place because of Christendom's war on Islam (so-called War on Terror). The President of The United Snakes of America, George W. Bush has, in his neo-Crusader misadventure in Iraq, unknowingly furthered the Islamic revolutionary vision of the late Imam Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran by hastening the establishment of an anti-Zionist, Shia Islamic State in Iraq. Truly God (ALLAH) works in strange ways. With the inhumane and immoral way that the U.S. soldiers treat the Iraqi civilians it would be a surprise if the 2 remaining captured American military men are not beheaded out of vengeful anger. A report released by the Pentagon revealed that many U.S. troops felt that civilians did not deserve to be treated 'with respect and dignity,' that torture was acceptable to save the lives of fellow soldiers, and that they would not report a fellow soldier for wounding or killing a civilian. The Pentagon survey found that a significant percentage of soldiers approve of abusing and even torturing non-combatants. According to the survey, 'only 47 percent of soldiers and 38 percent of Marines agreed that non-combatants should be treated with dignity and respect. More than one-third of all soldiers and Marines reported that torture should be allowed to save the life of a fellow soldier or Marine' or to obtain important information about insurgents. The survey also found that '10 percent of soldiers and Marines reported mistreating noncombatants or damaging property when it was not necessary' and that 'less than half of soldiers or Marines said they would report a team member for unethical behavior.' The people of Iraq, especially the Shias and the Kurds, were horribly mistreated under Saddam Hussein’s brutal dictatorship. As evil as the secular-minded Baath Party regime was, Iraq was a safer and more stable place than it is since the neo-Crusaders invaded the country in an effort to steal the oil and placate the Middle East for those racist Zionists in Israel. Clearly, the latest U.S. military strategy is a failure, as the carnage continues unabated. George W. Bush's devilish War on Terror is a horrific nightmare for the world. Over 4,000 dead U.S. troops and contract workers. Over 20,000 Americans injured, many horribly disfigured for life. Nearly 200,000 Muslim non-combatants dead. One way or another the U.S./U.K. neo-Crusaders will leave Iraq. Osama Bin Laden’s message of February 2003, as reported in BBC News about the U.S. not having the courage and conviction to defeat radical Islamists will prove to be prophetic. The U.S./U.K. Coalition forces will flee Iraq and Afghanistan in terror (pun intended). Millions of innocent Muslims may die as martyrs in the process, but the situation will become untenable for the cowardly Occidentals and the devilish invaders will eventually be forced into a shameful retreat and it will be recorded in history as a great Islamic victory over the Crucifixer armies. The Viet Cong lost many thousands more warriors than the French and the U.S. did, but their objective was reached, the Occidental imperialists were kicked-out of Vietnam. So it shall be soon in Iraq, the cost may be great but the Materialists will be expelled. The Western nations should treat the Muslim peoples with justice and equity, and then there will be peace for all. But this will perhaps never happen because the Occidental man has a propensity for war. Now that U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair is stepping down maybe the British will act sensibly and leave Iraq to avoid more needless English bloodshed. Let us hope that this Neo-Crusader madness stops when Bush is also out of office. Bush and Blair have chosen to lead Christendom into a war against ALLAH, His Prophet, Islam and Muslims; as with past Crusades the Muslims will win! Insulting Islam and Muslims does not at all help the neo-Crusader soldiers who live each day afraid of dying and being maimed, nor does it heal the broken hearts of the soldiers’ whose women are cheating on them while they serve overseas. Everyday in Iraq several American soldiers are needlessly dying. Every week hundreds of U.S. soldiers are injured in Iraq, many are maimed for life, some lose arms and legs. Some physical scars heal with time, the mental scars of the soldiers never do. The U.S./U.K. troops in Iraq are afraid and scared. No Coalition of Satan soldier wants to be in Iraq! Most of the Coalition Strom Troopers are cowards who live each day in an angst-like fear. The female U.S. troops are also fearful of both dying in war and afraid of being raped by an American serviceman. Are you bigoted warmongers happy when a U.S. life is wasted in Iraq? Do you racist warmongers cheer when you hear about a female American soldier being raped by a U.S. military man? Are the families of the dead U.S. troops proud to have sacrificed their loved ones on the alter of imperialism? I wonder how many U.S. servicewomen have gotten pregnant and given birth to bastard children who are the product of nonconsensual sex in Iraq with a American soldier rapist? Maybe they should give the female U.S. soldiers Birth Control Pills? The Iraqis are a proud people who refuse to be subjugated by any infidel invaders. Soon the Crucifixers will be forced into an humiliating and shameful retreat. The Occidental minions of Satan will be expelled from Iraq. Bush’s neo-Crusader War on Islam is proving to be a terrible waste of human lives and money. Islam is the only obstacle preventing the Occidentals and their bastard child Israel from economic and social domination of the world. Hence Islam must be destroyed! But The Light of Islam will never be extinguished. Islam is the fastest growing religion on earth. Muslims around the world are turning away from the devilish ideologies, philosophies and schisms of the West and seeking answers and guidance in the teachings of The Holy Quran and the example of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him and mercy to his family). The Muslim populations in North America and Europe are growing much faster than any other faith. The heroic Egyptian martyr, Lieutenant Colonel Khalid al Islambuli said it best, “ISLAM FOR THE WORLD!”
The US must stay in Iraq.
The Iraqi government is not fit to control and to safeguard the Iraqi people.
The only time when US is fit to leave is when Iraq stabalises and insurgents destroyed.
RE:'By the way Noharness,thanks for your courtesy.'
Not at all, it comes free of charge.
RE:'As for the nervosity of Saudi Arabia,if any it should not be a surprise .You would be nervous to if your neughbour's house is on fire,it might spread .
I guess they wouldn't like it if Shiites from Iran and Iraq tie closer bonds .However there is little the Saudis can do about that .THey have no army capable of dealing with it .In any case a more strong Shiite current would not be the worst ,as it is still in my opinion a lesser evil compared to the wahabit version of Islam as practised in Saudi-Arabia .'
Well, you see, the 'fire' is spreading--outside the Levant. The fuel for it is scattered all over Europe, the US, Russia and even parts of China. And the lesser of two evils is still evil.
RE:'The spreading of fundamentalist Islam is almost soleley the reasult of Saudi efforts to indoctrinate the moderate islamist .They throw a lot of money at the madrassas and mosks in Europe and the Far East to impose wahabism .
To simplify to the extreme.Wahabism is to Islam what conservative evangelist are for christianity .THey both have too much money,practise proselytism ,aim at the most ignorant fractions of the population,they both have the goal to integrate their relgion into politics ,both trying to influence the political establisment and lawmakers .I could go on about the similarities between fundamentalist evangelists and wahabits but I guess I dont want to write a book about it.Just rember they are both a danger for democracy.'
Believe me, I do understand about these hazards.
...the little minx! A deal with the Sunnis...after all, they couldn't possibly have that without our departure! Do these people actually fool themselves too?
Why this bag of Shiite id allowed to live is beyond me. Bush must be watching Tele tubbies to much.
As soon as you use the words 'Crucifixers or neo-Crusaders' and talk of imaginary reports from the Pentagon---'If they existed you would not know anything about them'---You confirm your Nutbag status.. and people change the channel...If you want anyone to listen to you in a serious way it might prove for effective to show a little less hate and vitriol.
nor does it heal the broken hearts of the soldiers’ whose women are cheating on them while they serve overseas.
What a load of crap---Who is this guy 'Baghdad Benny'
'Israel is the root of all evils in the world, and these comments are proof of their control over mass media. '
How can 7 million Israelis be responsible for making a billion muslims look so bad? I know they are an industrious people but they still have to eat and sleep. No, your problems are entirely self inflicted, brought about by an adherence to a backwards theology.
'Well atleast[sic] I am trying. if you wanna[sic] teach me English that would be great, I have no problem with that.'
Go to grade school, perhaps they can teach you not to scapegoat others for your own problems.
'but what I have problem with is your ignorance of the fact.'
That 'Israel is the root of all evils in the world'... It is an idiotic statement.
'In any case let them kill themselves and stop using American boys as excutioners[sic] okay. '
Americans are trying to stop them from killing each other, we are not acting as 'executioners'.
'You really don't need to speak english[sic] to be an American.'
Yes you do. Go back to where you came from and take lessons. Stay there too.
Hopefully none of you have sons in the U.S. military who are needlessly being injured and or dying in Iraq or daughters in the U.S. military who are being savagely raped by American soldiers in Iraq. All of this senseless violence and sexual assault for naught. Maybe it would be fitting to name any babies born out of rape in Iraq George.
George W. Bush is a devil!
better lay off the water pipe Momo your showing your lack of brain cells
I do not necessarily agree with everything Mr. Baer says, but he is worth reading. The link below leads to some important food for thought:
www.buzzflash.com/interviews/03/09/12_baer.html
When it starts with 'buzzflash' 'Kos' or the like, you should know that you are being spun.
No Thanks,
Thanks for the reminder. The following link is to source equally guilty of 'spin', if not outright mis-reporting on several occasions, PBS Frontline. The interview is, nevertheless, worth reading.
www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tehran/interviews/baer.html
I hate to burst your bubble but there is no allha,no 72 virgins,nothing but darkness for the rest of time.....
This again reminds me of a National Geographic TV show.
The monkey's live close to each other and when one comes into it's territory even for sex, the whole opposing group poops themselves, then play with the poop, then raise it above their heads and shout-scream-chant whatever. They do this before they use suicide type of attacks that result in the poop waiving, and throwing and then the monkeys start cannibilizing the the victims and their own wounded.
This Al-Sader boy is starting the process by pooping himself and is working the final step of putting his finger in the crap and playing with it. The big question is will his poopy followers start to do the same resulting in canniblization of all the monkeys in the region.
As the U.S. is sending more troops into Iraq and Afghanistan; they would be wise to send more body-bags too. There will only be more useless violence and death as long as the Occident man continues the imperialistic neo-Crusader warfare against Islam. The Muslim insurgents are more brazen, their attacks more deadly. The Neo-Crusader soldier's morale is low and their minds are overcome by an angst-like fear. Sadly the U.S./U.K. troops do not have the courage and conviction that their warmongering politicos and media pundits have. George W. Bush's devilish neo-crusader misadventure to steal Iraqi oil, placate the Middle East for Zionist Israel and seize control of the Afghan heroin/opium trade and build pipelines carrying oil and natural gas from Central Asia thru Afghanistan is a horrific nightmare. The world is a more dangerous and unstable place because of the devilish Bush/Cheney U.S. Administration. The U.S./U.K. Coalition is nonsensical to think that they can subdue Afghanistan with less than 70,000 troops when the Soviets could not control the country with 150,000 soldiers. The Crucifixers are going to be forced into an humiliating retreat in both Iraq and Afghanistan. The Muslim freedom fighters will soon expel the invaders from all Muslim lands and seas. It is clear and evident that ALLAH has granted the Muslims victory over the forces of Imperialism. ALLAHU AKBAR! (The GOD is The Greatest!) How do all of you who support Bush’s War on Islam feel when you hear news reports about the powerful U.S. military being defeated by small groups of poorly-trained and lightly-armed Islamists warriors wearing turbans and sandals? The great U.S. military brought to its knees, just as the Muslims holy warriors brought the Soviet Red Army to its knees in Afghanistan 20 years ago. The U.S./U.K. soldiers are cowards who want to escape the fighting, whereas the Muslim warriors are anxiously rushing into battle hoping for victory or martyrdom. Soon the Muslim victory over the Western Materialists will be complete and the Crucifixers will be expelled from Muslim lands and seas. In 2008 when that devil George W. Bush will be out of office let us hope the new U.S. government will be less demonic in its foreign policy. Then perhaps the Occidental nations and their bastard child Israel will no longer threaten the Muslims and begin to treat the Muslims in a just and equitable way. Not until this happens can we all live in peace. Soon the people of Iraq will reject the artificial borders created by the British colonialist devils and create two Islamic States (one Shia & one Sunni) and a Kurdish homeland in Mesopotamia. Despite all of the devilish bloodshed perpetrated by the U.S./U.K. Coalition Islam will be firmly established in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Soon the banners of Islam will again fly over Baghdad and Kabul. ALL PRAISE BE TO ALLAH!
@ALLAH is God and Muhammad is The Prophet of ALLAH!
Do you not have a real thought on the issue? Why do you pollute this forum with the same cut and paste nonsense over and over? By doing this I have to keep scrolling and clicking to get to someone with an original thought. Please speak your mind but stop repeating yourself over and over with nonsense.
' Muslim insurgents are more brazen, their attacks more deadly. '
Good work blowing up that marketplace full of women and children... Pretty 'brazen'.
Mohammad was a pedophile, rapist, murderer, liar and thief... ALL BY HIS OWN ADMISSION. It is as if Charles Manson started a religion and idiots like you were in the Manson family. You, and the rest of your cancer should be locked up in institutions for the criminally insane, or at least put in a zoo.
We Muslims should publicly show our strong disapproval for the growing number of attacks by Muslims against other faiths and against other Muslims. Let us not even dwell on 9/11, Madrid, London, Bali and countless other scenes of carnage. It has been estimated that of the two million refugees fleeing Islamic terror in Iraq, 40% are Christian, and many of them seek a haven in Lebanon, where the Christian population itself has declined by 60%. Even in Turkey, Islamists recently found it necessary to slit the throats of three Christians for publishing Bibles.
Of course, Islamist attacks are not limited to Christians and Jews. Why do we hear no Muslim condemnation of the ongoing slaughter of Buddhists in Thailand by Islamic groups? Why was there silence over the Mumbai train bombings which took the lives of over 200 Hindus in 2006? We must not forget that innocent Muslims, too, are suffering. Indeed, the most common murderers of Muslims are, and have always been, other Muslims. Where is the Muslim outcry over the Sunni-Shiite violence in Iraq?
Islamophobia could end when masses of Muslims demonstrate in the streets against videos displaying innocent people being beheaded with the same vigor we employ against airlines, Israel and cartoons of Muhammad. It might cease when Muslims unambiguously and publicly insist that Shariah law should have no binding legal status in free, democratic societies.
It is well past time that Muslims cease using the charge of “Islamophobia” as a tool to intimidate and blackmail those who speak up against suspicious passengers and against those who rightly criticize current Islamic practices and preachings.
www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110010123
There is nothing else to say! The truth of Islam is more evident daily as the U.S./U.K. minions of Satan are defeated in Iraq and Afghanistan. Islam is the only obstacle preventing the Occidental devils and their bastard child Israel from dominating the world economically, militarily and socially. Hence Islam must be destroyed and any manifestation of political Islam defeated. Islam is the fastest growing religion on earth. Muslims all over the world are turning to Islam to solve their problems and turning away from the Satanic secular philosophies of the West. There are millions of Muslims in Europe and the Americas. ALLAH is God! “ISLAM FOR THE WORLD!”
You have been intellectually sodomized by your neo-colonialist masters. Thusly you take pleasure in mental masturbation.
Again repeting yourself but useing a different tag (but exposing the cave you live in)... Boring
Why don't you crawl out from under your rock living as an earthworm and say something original, that actually has meaning and not a cut and paste from some terror manual.
The secular-minded hypocrites who profess to be Muslims pose a greater threat to the establishment of true Islam than do the overt enemies of GOD (Jews, Christians and Hindus).
@To Tawfik Hamid
Ancient Arab Islamic saying-
'You must stop molesting your goat before you molest your daughter and son'
You said:
'You have been intellectually sodomized by your neo-colonialist masters. Thusly you take pleasure in mental masturbation.'
You must be following your cult prophet to a tee as he was a pediphile and your mind is fixated on sodomy and masterbation. Get you mind out of the gutter and into reality please.
Every Christian celebration goes after the pre-Jesus time and continues today as Christianity, from Christmas to thanks giving to any and all other days of Celebration. They have SUN-WORSHIPPING SUN-DAY and the church activities, they make a human being as god or son of god. A man who had a definite DNA and genetic pattern, was destructible etc. Thwe holy book shows God Almighty as an ignorant entity..like a european white man. The holy bible has no respect for the messengers of God Almighty, it shows Noah, as Drunkard..as if he was european evil man. The paganic book shows Abraham as a liar, he lies to the king of Egypt, Lot committed adultry with his own daughters, Jesus was rude to his mother etc., etc. The book fails to show if the damned decipels did any thing wrong.
IT IS SO NEGATIVE BOOK THAT A NORMAL EDUCATED PERSON WOULD RUN AWAY FROM IT. THE ATHEISTS IN THE WEST REJECT IT AND ITS TEACHINGS FOR THESE REASONS. THEY ARE ACTUALLY BETTER MINDED PEOPLE THAN BLIND, DEAF AND DUMB CHRISTIANS
Cool you cut and pasted something different from your terror manual. A little off subject but different.
Why are you so scared? What are you so afraid of? When will you come out and into the open? Are you hiding for Islam or are you just ashamed of it?
By the way your caps usage gives away your tag. Everyone here knows that you are in a cave still and unwilling to face truth when confronted by it.
@To Tawfik Hamid
Ancient Arab Islamic saying-
'You must stop molesting your goat before you molest your daughter and son'
End result was an orgy of Arab, goat, daughter, son, wife, and any thing that crawls and resulted in Islam!!!
Repost:
To all arabs and muslims please follow the humaity listed below and you can one day get support and respect from the world again...
Former Jemaah Islamiya member Tawfik Hamid May 25th, 2007 - 22:36:47
We Muslims should publicly show our strong disapproval for the growing number of attacks by Muslims against other faiths and against other Muslims. Let us not even dwell on 9/11, Madrid, London, Bali and countless other scenes of carnage. It has been estimated that of the two million refugees fleeing Islamic terror in Iraq, 40% are Christian, and many of them seek a haven in Lebanon, where the Christian population itself has declined by 60%. Even in Turkey, Islamists recently found it necessary to slit the throats of three Christians for publishing Bibles.
Of course, Islamist attacks are not limited to Christians and Jews. Why do we hear no Muslim condemnation of the ongoing slaughter of Buddhists in Thailand by Islamic groups? Why was there silence over the Mumbai train bombings which took the lives of over 200 Hindus in 2006? We must not forget that innocent Muslims, too, are suffering. Indeed, the most common murderers of Muslims are, and have always been, other Muslims. Where is the Muslim outcry over the Sunni-Shiite violence in Iraq?
Islamophobia could end when masses of Muslims demonstrate in the streets against videos displaying innocent people being beheaded with the same vigor we employ against airlines, Israel and cartoons of Muhammad. It might cease when Muslims unambiguously and publicly insist that Shariah law should have no binding legal status in free, democratic societies.
It is well past time that Muslims cease using the charge of “Islamophobia” as a tool to intimidate and blackmail those who speak up against suspicious passengers and against those who rightly criticize current Islamic practices and preachings.
www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110010123
time to put the cross-hairs on this sheep Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr..he is nothing but a coward who lets women,children and weak men do his fighting...while he offers lip service and goes and hides in Iran. I hope he does start some fights...its now that the world is ready to rid itself of this coward of a man.
ENOUGH SAID
'IT IS SO NEGATIVE BOOK THAT A NORMAL EDUCATED PERSON WOULD RUN AWAY FROM IT. '
You mean the Koran, the islamic fever dream that tells you chimps to kill everyone else? Here are some quotes from your hate tract:
Qur'an:9:5 'Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.'
Qur'an:9:29 'Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.'
Qur'an:9:88 'The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause.'
Qur'an:9:14 'Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them.'
Qur'an:9:38 'Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place.'
Qur'an:9:123 'Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you.'
Qur'an 5:51 'Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other.'
Qur'an 9:29 'Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, who do not forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, or acknowledge the Religion of Truth (Islam), (even if they are) People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission, feeling themselves subdued and brought low.' [Another translation says:] 'pay the tax in acknowledgment of our superiority and their state of subjection.'
Qur'an 5:17 '...Say (Muhammad): ‘Who then has the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary, his mother, and everyone else on earth?'
Qur'an 5:35 'Believers, fear Allah and seek the way to approach Him, striving hard, fighting Jihad with all your might in His Cause that you may be successful. As for the disbelievers [previously defined as Christians], if they had everything on earth, two times over, to give as ransom for the penalty of the Day of Doom, it would never be accepted from them. Theirs will be a painful torment. They will desire to get out of the fire, but they shall not be released from it. They shall have an everlasting torture.'
Qur'an 5:49 'And this (He commands): Judge between them by what Allah has revealed and follow not their [Christian] desires, but beware of them lest they beguile you, seducing you away from any of that which Allah hath sent down to you. And if they turn you away [from being Muslims], be assured that for their crime it is Allah's purpose to smite them. Truly most men are rebellious.'
Qur'an 5:73 'They are surely disbelievers who blaspheme and say: ‘God is one of three in the Trinity for there is no Ilah (God) except One, Allah. If they desist not from saying this (blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall them - the disbelievers will suffer a painful doom.'
Qur'an 5:77 'Say (Muhammad): ‘People of the Book, do not overstep the bounds in your religion, or follow the people who erred and led many astray. Cursed are the unbelievers among the Children of Israel by David and Jesus.... They do vile things, allying themselves with the infidels so that Allah's indignation is upon them and in torment they will suffer for all eternity.' [Another translation reads:] 'Curses were pronounced on the unbelievers, the Children of Israel who rejected Islam, by the tongues of David and of Jesus because they disobeyed and rebelled.'
Qur'an 5:80 'You see many of them allying themselves with the unbelieving infidels. Vile indeed are their souls. Allah's wrath is on them, and in torment will they abide.'
Qur'an 5:82 'You will find the Jews and disbelievers [defined as Christians in 5:73] the most vehement in hatred for the Muslims.'
Qur'an 5:117 'I only said what You (Allah) commanded me to say: Worship Allah, my lord and your Lord. I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them but you took me up. (This is a great admonition and warning to the Christians of the whole world.)'.
Islam kills and murders wherever it rubs up against civilization. Just look at the daily news.
The U.S. is worried about the shiites aligned with al-Sadr because they
have their sights on Iran. Most of the U.S. forces are being attacked
by sunnis, and these sunni insurgents are also causing almost all of the
destrustion in Iraq. The U.S. labels al-Sadr as the biggest threat
only because they fear the support al-Sadr may offer Iran, should
the U.S. attack Iran. Al-Sadr knows about the Americas plan, and that is
why he has kept a low profile, not giving the U.S. the excuse it is
looking for to eliminate it's true worry.
The U.S. is worried about the shiites aligned with al-Sadr because they
have their sights on Iran. Most of the U.S. forces are being attacked
by sunnis, and these sunni insurgents are also causing almost all of the
destrustion in Iraq. The U.S. labels al-Sadr as the biggest threat
only because they fear the support al-Sadr may offer Iran, should
the U.S. attack Iran. Al-Sadr knows about America's plan, and that is
why he has kept a low profile, not giving the U.S. the excuse it is
looking for to eliminate it's true worry.
'Al-Sadr knows about the Americas plan, and that is
why he has kept a low profile, not giving the U.S. the excuse it is
looking for to eliminate it's true worry. '
LOL! Sure it's not because he ran away like the big fat pussy he is?
reply to nice spin.
People who can not argue or debate with facts and knowledge
resort to name calling and put-downs. Interpretation- what
is it you do not agree with?
-U.S. forces are mainly being killed by sunnis
-The U.S. has it's sights on Iran.
-Al-Sadr doesn't want to confront the U.S.
( even though the U.S. is trying to provoke a
confrontation).
-The U.S. is mainly concerned with al-Sadr because
they are worried about his alignment with Iran,
should the U.S. attack Iran.
By the way you forgot my misspelling of 'destruction', I did not
check my previous post.
TO...American kafirMay 26th, 2007 - 01:13:48
'IT IS SO NEGATIVE BOOK THAT A NORMAL EDUCATED PERSON WOULD RUN AWAY FROM IT. '
Have you ever read this pagan book AKA BIBLE.
Read again. Genesis alone tells of your pagan ignorant man god.
See for yourself;
''''Genesis 1
The Beginning
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, 'Let there be light,' and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light 'day,' and the darkness he called 'night.' And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
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Do the people who quote from religious books realise how stupid it is to adhere to a few scribblings by various outcasts who had visions about some mythical 'thing' a long time in the past. Isn't it time to take a modern view on mankinds existence as just a random event in an uncaring universe. When you die, that's it - you get eaten by worms or stuck in an oven and return your constituent molecules for re-use.
To try and ignore this unpalatable truth with promises of everlasting 'life' or a reward of a dozen virgins ( by the way, what happens once you've worked your way through them after a couple of weeks ?) shows a total inability to face up to reality. Trying to persuade others that your 'God' is better than all the other 'Gods' is equally stupid. If your's is so good, why doesn't he get rid of all the opposing Gods ?
Faith is the belief in things unseen and unknowable. This makes it difficult for people of different faiths to get along. Owing to the nature of faith, the parties are unable to off one another any proof of veracity. It almost always leads to violence, especially if they make the mistake of mixing faith and theology with their politics.
There once was a man called Mohammed, he was ambitous so to satisfy his ego he married a wealthy widow. He realised that to further his ambitions he had to warp the minds of simple men. The likelyhood of him succeding were slim but he realised that if he could persuade them that he could hear the words of God and that he was a prophet he would have success, so he went to a cave and made a great drama about hearing the words of God. He told all the people who believed him that they were special and that all others were inferior, he then persued military objectives and gave all the credit to this God that spoke to him. He became so poweful that he was able to persue his paedophile, womanising and murderous ways with impunity.
Mohammed was only a man and the Koran is his plueprint for conquest. The words are not Gods but his path to warp the minds of men.
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