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The current American 'Rogue' regime and its Democratic values are a blight on the world stage. These representatives have proved the fault lines of democracy and the abuse that can be given to justify Tyranny and Oppression. The British forces are among the worlds most disciplined and experienced, they know that trigger happy policies only create more mayhem and suffering, and its the brave British Soldiers who have paid with thier lives in Iraq because of the neglect the US forces have given to thier mission in Iraq.
Its time for all the good people of the US to revolt against the current status quo in the US and overturn the Imperialist forces that are driving US policy. Why in a country so full of people from all around the world are there so many extremist Jewish Nationilist in office and controlling the media? Don't stand by and let these people dragg your country under because of thier missguided and fanatical view of the world, stand up and change the course of the US. They allow your country to pander to Israel under the false guide that Israel is a legitimate and rightful owner of Palestinian land. Why when there are so many Palestinian refugees do you stand Idle'y by and support Zionist's occupy thier land, when there are those poor and innocent people made refugee because of them? Why are you allowing the Evangelicals to mannipulate and brainwash you into believeing that the Israelis have ultimate right to continue Occupation? Why are you giving these people 30 Billion of your money to by more arms to cause more mayhem with?
People are people, don't let anyone ever tell you that there is more reason to support one human over another.
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The americans should listen to this guy.
His country have hundreds of years experience of illegally occupying other states. And once or twice they have come across radical locals who think they have the right to self determination.
So listen to him because killing entire villages because one legitimate
resident tries to fight back against your might is not the way to win the war.
(Mind you it has'nt done israel any harm yet)
the Brits are changing tunes because they know that soon the UK will become a True Muslim Country. and Brian is right...these idiots take all this smoke out of their ass when its the Brits and French that tried to colonize the world and did nothing but cause trouble..they should be kissing the USA's ASS for having to bail them out....maybe they wished they all spoke german.
Even the CHAVs in the UK have more sense and intelligence than the common Brit.
'Why in a country so full of people from all around the world are there so many extremist Jewish Nationilist in office and controlling the media? '
Because most other immigrant groups have the numbers or the organizational structure to shepard and support candidates for office. The Latinos have the numbers but not the civic/political capital needed to put a large number in office. Sure they can get a few in Miami or NY or California or Texas but 4 states does not a government make.
'Because most other immigrant groups have the numbers or the ' should read
'Because most other immigrant groups DON't have the numbers or the '
This woman of a man is again attacking the USA here when it was the British and French that colonized dozens of nations for centuries.
Now that we removed Hussein she is mad because it is 1 less despot in the world.
Brian, or is it Brianna, when do you plan on moving to the middle east to join your terrorist friends?
You better be a 1st class dhimmi in England as it seems some of you are very ripe for an islamic takeover.
If you dont believe that 1.6 million muzzies could do it than you would probably be in the same group that would had denied that 19 suicide, Saudi bombers could had done so much damage to the US back in 2001.
Why do you LEFTISTS engage in so much denial of truth.
Please if you dont believe me than go read what muslims do everyday to non-muslims at www.thereligionofpeace.com or at www.westernresistance.com
It is a daily compilation of islamic atrocities worldwide against all non-muslims.
I am still waiting for a website that displays Christian atrocities against muslims and others.
Surprise, there is no such site.
Hungarian Crusader-1453
The British forces and in particular the commanding generals are simply going along with the politicians. There is an election due in the UK very soon and the biggest vote winner within the UK is an anti American stance. The nation is sick of being told what to do by the US. Brown sees this as a way of showing he has no fear of standing up to what he sees as a criminal regime.
He seems to talk leftist, but could also be Irish.
It really doesnt matter, those nations are weak on islam.
What happened to all those old school, tough no nonsense Europeans?
Disappointed American
'He seems to talk leftist, but could also be Irish.'
'brian' is a bitter middle aged Irish loser who needs a nanny state to take care of him and resents others who don't.
Not one mention of Tony Blair in the article...as if George W Bush stuck a gun to England's collective head and forced it to go to war. Love it!
Declan - for information: Blair was Prime Minister of the UK, not just England which is just a part of the whole.
Interesting to see Hungarian Crusader and 'Disappointed American' talking tough. It would have been most instructive for them to be on a recent river cruise down the Danube, where there were passengers from various European countries and some Americans.
The cruise visited several 'alien' (to the americans) countries such as Romania, Serbia, Croatia, Slovak Republic, Bulgaria among others. While the Europeans (mainly British, Swiss & Germans) were completely relaxed to be strolling around in these countries, the americans seemed to think they were visiting a war zone
While one had to feel sorry for citizens of a country which produces the in-bred paranoia that seems to grip any American who actually ventures abroad from their plastic, indulgent 'safe' world, it did at least provide huge amusement among the Europeans as they watched the nervous twitches and wide-eyed apprehension increase every time the boat approached shore. But at least these were relatively enlightened Americans who were willing to try and find out more about the wider world from which they are shielded by their media blandness and governmental brain washing
Really William? And here all this time I thought the UK Parliament was located in England and thus the decision of the UK to go to war in Iraq was made there. Silly me.
Yes Declan - just shows your ignorance - never heard of Scotland, Northern Ireland & Wales ?
The pro-Palestine comments are hilarious. I love the way all the Arabs (and even the Persians) hold up Palestinian occupation as a rallying point. Never mind the fact that you do nothing to actually help the Palestinians.
You have all the empty land and oil money in the world, yet despite your empty words about your Palestinian 'brothers' you leave them in poverty and despair.
Do you really care about the Palestinians? Invite one to come and live in your home.
Fools! Do you not think God judges those who talk about justice yet do nothing to help their brother? By your own words you have condemned yourselves, for your words prove that you know of your brother's plight, yet you do nothing to help them.
Should the Jews care more about the Palestinians than you do? Sadly, many of them do - to your eternal shame. On the day of judgment, it will be better for those Jews than for you. Shame on you and your empty words! Shame on your wicked indifference!
england will never be a muslim state u stupid muslim prick.
William - No, I've never heard of those places. Especially not Northern Ireland. ]:->
You really do have a problem with comprehension William. You should work on that mate, because no matter how hard you try to portray yourself as an intelligent human being, your own words betray you.
William,
Interesting to see how you made one trip out of the UK and met one small group of Americans and yet feel qualified to judge an entire country. Should we judge all of the UK based on a few people we meet from a small Welsh or Irish village? Keep in mind that there are several of the 50 States that the entire UK would fit into quite comfortably.
Perhaps it would also surprise you to learn that countries such as Romania, Serbia, Croatia, Slovak Republic, Bulgaria have very recently actually been a war zone? Yes, the 'war' has been both Hot & Cold (you do remember the Cold War don't you?) but to those of us (US & Brit) that performed the duties required of us in those countries, the distinction was a blurry one to say the least.
A plastic indulgent 'safe' world? Now how are you going to synthesize that with your conflicting view that we are all a bunch of heavily armed cowboys who enter with guns blazing - whether it be on the world stage or in a public school?
Now as to governmental brain washing - this may be a shock to you, but compared to the UK, the US Govt plays a tiny role in the daily life of Americans. Once again, refer to your perception of Americans as all belonging to some bizarre racist militia group - how does govt brain washing fit in there? No, the closest thing to brain washing comes from having the public schools and universities stacked with liberals with a socialist world-view - you know kinda like Europeans... The only problem is it doesn't stick. The thing about Americans is that they insist on making up their own mind.
You really should try to get out more - you know, actually spend some time in a country before you judge it? Oh, but that would require you to leave your plastic, indulgent 'safe' world, where the govt is always there to bail you out and everyone thinks just like you...
Retired Generals are all over the news and say whatever is in flavor that month. Muslims are heavily influencing UK polocies to favor Muslims in other parts of the world and not the Brits at home. Do they remember their middle age history. Muslim extremists still believe in the same stuff. Wake up, don't cater to minority rule.
Yes we have to.....every time another one of our UK soldiers is once again killed by US troops by crass imcompetence...
(Ooops! I betters rephrase that,..by 'friendly fire').
What pisses me off ,
is so far, the US has REFUSED EVERY SINGLE REQUEST to provide witnessess to testify in a UK CORONERS COURT in order to ascertain the cause of death as by UK Law ,a death certificate cannot be issued .
Some cases have waited THREE YEARS.
YES!
We seem to be good here in the UK ...at ' Kissing the USA's ASS'
BRING OUR TROOPS HOME!!!!!
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OH NO!
Not, 'friendly fire ' again?
Coroners are Judicial Officers responsible for investigating violent, unnatural or sudden deaths where the cause is unknown.
An Inquest is to determine how,when and where the individual died, but not why. It is an enquiry to ascertain the facts concerning a death and does not apportion blame on any individual.
A Coroner will hold an Inquest with a Jury in certain circumstances.
A Coroner’s Officer is responsible for investigating the cause of the death and presenting the evidence in Court on the day of the Inquest.
so now you can kiss mine, in the UK.
'It would have been most instructive for them to be on a recent river cruise down the Danube, where there were passengers from various European countries and some Americans.'
It would be most beneficial to you to cut the sanctimony and hypocrisy.
'While the Europeans (mainly British, Swiss & Germans) were completely relaxed to be strolling around in these countries, the americans seemed to think they were visiting a war zone'
The last lot of British I saw in New York was turning it in to a war zone. It amazes me how pompous some can be when their fellow citizens are usually tripping in their own sick within hours of getting off the plane. Yobs, chavs and hooligans...God, how can you possibly think you are in a position to be so smug.
'While one had to feel sorry for citizens of a country which produces the in-bred paranoia that seems to grip any American who actually ventures abroad from their plastic, indulgent 'safe' world,
I wish I could say I felt sorry for those British who continually need to assert themselves with these idiotic airs of superiority, I honestly can't. You are a caricature of an overcompensating British blow hard who has watched their own country erode in to something that is barely recognizable as British and now wishes that we Neanderthal Americans would hurry up and shoot ourselves in the foot like you clearly have. Devote some of that pompous insight in to your own INCREDIBLE problems for once instead of trying to get a green card in order to better escape the mess that you have made.
'it did at least provide huge amusement among the Europeans as they watched the nervous twitches and wide-eyed apprehension increase every time the boat approached shore.'
Not nearly as amusing as watching the reaction to waiters when they see that they have been stiffed yet again by a self-important Brit..
'But at least these were relatively enlightened Americans who were willing to try and find out more about the wider world from which they are shielded by their media blandness and governmental brain washing'
LOL, 'media blandness and governmental brain washing'media blandness and governmental brain washing'... Guess you think the BBC is truth... Of course you do... It tells you that your opinion still counts for something just because you have a silly accent. They/you are wrong.
England is Vanishing
By Cal Thomas
'There'll Always Be an England'
BELFAST, NORTHERN IRELAND -- Perhaps there will not always be an England. An exodus unprecedented in modern times, coupled with a record influx of foreigners, is threatening to erode the character of the land of William Shakespeare and overpowering monarchs, a land that served as the cradle for much of American thought, law and culture.
The figures, making headlines in London newspapers, tell only part of the story. Between June 2005 and June 2006 nearly 200,000 British citizens chose to leave the country for a new life elsewhere. During the same period, at least 574,000 immigrants came to Britain. This number does not include the people who broke the law to get there, or the thousands unknown to the government. Britain's Office of National Statistics reports that middle-class Britons are beginning to move out of towns in southern England that have become home to large numbers of immigrants, thereby altering the character of neighborhoods that have remained unchanged for generations.
Britons give many reasons for leaving, but their stories share one commonality: life in Britain has become unbearable for them. They fear lawlessness and the threat of more terrorism from a growing Muslim population and the loss of a sense of Britishness, exacerbated by the growing refusal of public schools to teach the history and culture of the nation to the next generation. What it means to be British has been watered down in a plague of political correctness that has swept the country faster than hoof-and-mouth disease. Officials say they do not wish to 'offend' others.
Hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers are about to be granted 'amnesty' to stay in Britain. The government's approach is similar to that pursued by President Bush, who failed to win congressional approval for his amnesty plan. In Britain it appears likely to succeed. Migrants will be granted immediate access to many benefits, including top priority for council housing. Taxpayers will foot the bill.
The Shadow Home Secretary, David Davis, called the policy a 'stealth amnesty.' Again, in a comment reminiscent of the debate in America, Sir Andrew Green, chairman of Migrationwatch UK, said: 'This is yet another example of the Alice in Wonderland world of human rights. If you break British law for long enough, you acquire rights not penalties.'
British media have carried stories about an Italian immigrant who murdered a schoolteacher and was sentenced to life in prison. He is about to be released after serving just 12 years. The government wants to deport him to Italy, but a combination of British human rights legislation and European Union law are making it impossible to do so. This does not bode well for deporting Islamic terrorists who call for the overthrow of the government and incite young people to acts of violence.
Abraham Lincoln said no nation can exist half slave and half free. Neither can a nation be sustained if it allows conditions that result in mass emigration, while importing huge numbers of foreigners who come from backgrounds that do not practice assimilation or tolerance of other beliefs. When one factors in the high number of abortions (one in five pregnancies are aborted in England and Wales), the high birth rates of immigrants (15 times those of white Britons), it doesn't take a population expert to predict that the days of the England we have known may be numbered.
The problem for Britain and the United States isn't just the change in demographics. It is the reluctance of both countries to inculcate the beliefs, history and, yes, religious ideals, which made our nations so successful that others wanted to come and be a part of them. The difference between many of the current immigrants and those of the past is that the previous ones wanted to become fully American or fully British. The current ones, in too many cases, would destroy what makes our countries unique. And the 'leaders' of Britain and America refuse to stop it.
The greater tragedy is that the people of Britain have little say in any of this, so they are taking the road of last resort. They are leaving.
Well thank you for that wonderful information. Scotland sounds lovely and I might just go there someday. But not until after I visit Parliament in London which is where? Oh yes, it's in England. And the PM's office is where? Oh yeah, in London which, again, is in England.
William, if that was you, please continue behaving foolishly. It's rather amusing.
'Intellectually bankrupt' is as fair a description of Bush's policies as I've ever heard. Nothing done made any sense - pulling Saddam out an leaving vacuum for Iran to thrive in, as well as al Qaeda which had no measurable presence in Iraq before the ouster. Dictators like Saddam put down the opposition, and al Qaeda would have been a threat, Sunni or not.
Even Cheney (who NEVER makes a mistake, personally) has condemned some of what Rumsfeld did. The Iraq Study Group findings were a fair basis to move forward on, and Hamilton specifically said they were meant to ALL be implemented, and not cherry-picked. The surge was bound to make progress in the local area involved, but perhaps the metaphor would be a scientist with a 6-inch petri dish full of bacteria, who puts ONE DROP of antibiotics in (which ONLY works in the area where it's dropped), and then declares 'victory' against the entire bacterial colony in the petri dish. In fact, the surge raised expectations in Bush's mind, because now we have a HIGHER level to maintain than before the surge - so ANYTHING comes off as failure. Like the addicted gambler who wants to play 'one more hand to get even', Bush's addictive personality has contaminated the situation.
Blair did England no service by supporting Bush's strategies, and now that the few British forces are stepping down in Basra, his country will not be willing to join America in such folly without an obvious and evident reason for doing so. If Bush could have won this conflict in 2 years, he'd be a hero at this point. Banking on egomaniacs like Rumsfeld, and megalomaniacs like Cheney, was not the way to get there. Bush listens to the wrong people, and shuts out those who disagree - that's why we have this mess.
SIR Michael Jackson in the above article May be right Iraq is a total mess. to bad he didn't mention it three years ago
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As for the Brits leaving the place to get away from religious extremism One has to ponder that in the Past America and Europe have taken in millions
of refugees from around the world ,
most settled in and adopted the liberal way of life of the host countries
,Alas a few arrived with empty suitcases but a head full of
religious bigotry
,and from the moment they landed they proceeded to pressure weak politicians, and indeed Governments for special treatment for their religious causes, whether they be Zionists in America or Muslims in Europe, democracy suffers from the actions of these people.
I know you think that there are Muslims that that are anti-democratic living in the UK, and I would say you were right, but way overstating. Those people who carried out the bombings in the UK were young people that didn't have the intelligence to know what to do other than create havoc to highlight their cause, and I have to say that I dont agree with thier methods but I do agree with the cause.
On Saturday England plays Israel, now lets see if the press highlight all those British Jews standing with the Israelis during the match? I wonder if they will. We know they won't, but that is a simple example of how the press can radicalise your thinking. British Myuslims work together with all other people in the UK, the huge majority of which are second and third generations that you would walk past in the street not even thinking they were any different to you, unfortunatly in a time when Imperialist forces supported by Blair are killing innocent Muslims all over the world, there are going to be problems.
If England decided to help the Palestinians end occupation, every British Muslim eligable would immediatly join the Army, its just unfortunate that we are fighting the wrong War for the wrong people.
ER ... like you mean like Michael Jackson..that paragon of US virtue?C
ER..............,,,, Yes,,,, you numpty...................................
' Those who have a brain bigger than a nut know that the development of that region has been hindered by coup's stage managed by those wonderful Americans that fight for Freedom(Lol), so its been in a kind of state of paralysis for some time'
Funny how islamic backwardness is always someone else's fault? The region has been 'hindered' by an infantile inability to take responsibility for the slightest thing. It will be until they recognize it.
Declan: no the other items weren't by me. Coming back to your original piece - calling Tony Blair the Prime Minister of England is equivalent to a geographically based description of George Bush as the President of Washington DC.
Blair was the British Prime Minister (i.e of England, Scotland, Wales + Northern Ireland) and the British Parliament has MPs from all these countries. England does not have a separate parliament (Scotland does, Wales an assembly etc) but in any case, the control of the British armed forces remains with the British Parliament (although the armed forces' loyalty is actually to the Queen as Head of State)
George - we all know the countries I mentioned have in the past suffered conflicts. When I mentioned americans thinking they were entering a war zone I was speaking figuratively - the situation was the same for both Europeans and americans, but the latter seemed unable to adapt to an alien (to them) environment where people didn't speak American English, and were of mixed race, religion and culture
Your supposition that my views about the inability of americans to adjust to non-american environments were entirely based on a single trip out of the UK is incorrect: I have visited some 50 different countries in various continents, including America several times, on around 150 holidays over the past 25 years, and many instances have led to my views on americans abroad.
GOD TOLD ME TO DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'
President told Palestinians God also talked to him about Middle East peace
Ewen MacAskill
Friday October 7, 2005
The Guardian
George Bush believes he is on a mission from God, according to the politician Nabil Shaath. Photograph: Charles Dharapak/AP
George Bush has claimed he was on a mission from God when he launched the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, according to a senior Palestinian politician in an interview to be broadcast by the BBC later this month.
Mr Bush revealed the extent of his religious fervour when he met a Palestinian delegation during the Israeli-Palestinian summit at the Egpytian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, four months after the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: 'President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did.'
Mr Bush went on: 'And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And, by God, I'm gonna do it.'
Mr Bush, who became a born-again Christian at 40, is one of the most overtly religious leaders to occupy the White House, a fact which brings him much support in middle America.
Soon after, the Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz carried a Palestinian transcript of the meeting, containing a version of Mr Bush's remarks. But the Palestinian delegation was reluctant publicly to acknowledge its authenticity.
The BBC persuaded Mr Shaath to go on the record for the first time for a three-part series on Israeli-Palestinian diplomacy: Elusive Peace, which begins on Monday.
Religion also surfaced as an issue when Mr Bush and Tony Blair were reported to have prayed together in 2002 at his ranch at Crawford, Texas - the summit at which the invasion of Iraq was agreed in principle. Mr Blair has consistently refused to admit or deny the claim.
Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian prime minister, who was also part of the delegation at Sharm el-Sheikh, told the BBC programme that Mr Bush had said: 'I have a moral and religious obligation. I must get you a Palestinian state. And I will.'
Well God ,you coulDn't get off your fat ass, provide US witnessess in a UK CORONERS COURT in victims of 'friendldy fire incidents' and give their widows a death certificate which will allow them a pension.....or do we still roll over and kiss Americas ass while they continue to kill our UK TROOPS AND GET AWAY WITH IT.........
America needs your help! Our government is being run by intellectually challenged, right-wing, born-again, family values perverts! Our president is a moron! Our military is incompetent! Our reputation is in the toilet, and our morale is eroding quickly. We need more Brits like the general speaking out about what's wrong, and fewer Tony Snow's giving Bush hand-jobs. The next election can't come soon enough!
New Yorker,
What you need is a new country.
William,
Sorry sport, but it is clear you are lying. Nice try though.
Explain George - lying about what ?
Nabil Shaath believes he is a small furry rodent, according to some guy named George on the Internet.
www.passia.org/images/personalities/shaath-nabil/nabil.html
'Sep 2nd, 2007 - 13:32:25
New Yorker,
What you need is a new country. '
Yes 'New Yorker' (as if) you do need a new country, I suggest you pack up and move to Londonastan where you will be immediately made appreciative of what we have in the USA. You and Madonna will be pretty much the only ones who have left the USA for the UK, meanwhile our streets are full of their 'x-pats' who think the world owes them something.
'William,
Sorry sport, but it is clear you are lying. Nice try though.'
Indeed...
William - Did I call Tony Blair the PM of England? No, I did not. I simply stated his office was there. In addition, I stated that the article here made no mention of him whatsoever.
Again I suggest that you practice your reading comprehension skills.
What we really need here in the UK is some witnessess from the US to testify in British CORONERS COURTS everytime our troops are accidently murdered (friendly fire).That means their widows don't have to wait for many years, living on a pittance,until the death certificate is finally issued and they can claim a widows pension.
SO far ,...... every rquest by the Coroner for the US to supply witnessess has been either totally ignored or flatly refused
So much for the'special relationship' between the UK and the US.
British troops have begun to withdraw from their base at Basra Palace in the southern city.
They will join the remaining 5,000 troops at the last remaining British base near Basra Airport.
Still 'winning hearts and minds? eh!
Declan - by implication you did,on the basis of England going to war, which is not possible for England alone, within the UK
'So much for the'special relationship' between the UK and the US.'
So it is only 'special' when Americans are killed in YOUR wars?
William - My original statement simply used England as the central and symbolic location of the UK's government. The same way people use Washington D.C. when making statements such as 'Washington declares war on Afghanistan', or 'Washington goes to war with Iraq'. What do you think I meant when I wrote 'England's collective head'?
Being the world traveler that you are, surely you are aware that outside the UK, England is often cited as the location representing the UK's government, no?
Try not to be such a tosser William. Nothing you have written here on this thread justifies the level of arrogance you display. Quite the opposite actually.
'4th - What a croc[sic] of s**t! Americans dying for us! '
How many British are buried over here as a result of you having to come bail us out? I have 2 relatives buried in France 1 from WW1, 1 from WW2. (BTW the one in WW@ was fighting in 1940, before Pearl Harbor.) I was dragged out of grad school to go dodge AAA over Kosovo because you lot wouldn't get off your rear ends and fix the problems in your own back yard.
' We were fighting facism[sic] for three years before pearl harbour got you envolved[sic], not because you cared about the hundreds of thousands Brits dying'
Well, you have just demonstrated that you never got around to learning history, addition or spelling. Is that your 'superiour' British education at work?
'Ohh ,and a friendship goes both ways not just yours,'
That was my point, idiot. Seeing how the arbitrary borders of Iraq were drawn up in the back rooms of London's parliament and your country dictated the way Afghanistan, Pakastan, Iraq, and the rest of the messes would end up looking without the slightest regard to the people living there. Seeing that the UK, more then any other country was responsible for the creation of Israel. Seeing how your grubby colonial hand was in the middle east long before we ever got there... Don't you think you owe it to the world to at least HELP sort out the problems there rather then just dropping it in the Americans laps and whining about how they do it?
'and seen[sic] as you guys across the Atlantic are as popular as the Nazis around the World,'
1) Simply not true, it is your envy that colors the way you wish us to be seen.
2) Who cares?
3) I would rather be respected then 'popular'.
4) Your country is neither at the moment, and won't be if you continue to cut, run and complain .
'then I would hope our leader would smack yours around the mouth for his inept and incompetence since he took office. '
LOL!... Hey Adam, all the best British live here now. (My ancestors left in 1688.) You are just the dregs that were too lazy to escape.
Why are the British generals criticizing Rumsfeld now? Hmmm...
The International Crisis Group, a Brussels based think-tank, said in a June report that unconstrained militias were destabilizing Basra and that locals believed British forces had been driven out.
'Relentless attacks against British forces in effect had driven them off the streets into increasingly secluded compounds,' the report said. 'Basra's residents and militiamen view this not as an orderly withdrawal but rather as an ignominious defeat.'
'This is a thoroughly sensible military decision,' said opposition Conservative lawmaker Patrick Mercer. 'It will allow more troops to be withdrawn from Iraq in the autumn, just as Britain increases its numbers of troops in Afghanistan.'
Who will the British blame when they fail in Afghanistan?
Uhh, i sense trouble in paradise *rofl*
First Jim-Bob from Iowa said that Tom from Yorkshire is his best football friend (mainly because there was hardly someone else who wanted to play with him)
Now Jim-Bob is pissed as Tom told him that he is a bad player and his strategy is bad.
Will Jim-Bob and Tom ever play ball again as before ?
Will the dreamteam fall apart now ?
Stay tuned for another episode of 'Friends on Terror'
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