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Soldier killed, NATO disputes Afghan civilian death toll (Roundup)
Jul 1, 2007, 13:51 GMT
Kabul - One NATO soldier was killed and several wounded in a Taliban attack in southern Afghanistan while the alliance disputed the death toll of civilians in an airstrike in the country's south, saying it was three times less than reported by Afghan officials.
One Soldier for the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) was killed and several others were wounded in Taliban rocket fire which was followed by a suspected suicide attack in the southern region, ISAF said in a statement.
The statement did not identify the nationalities of the soldiers, nor did it provide details on the exact location of the attack.
Meanwhile, ISAF spokesman Major John Thomas said that the number of civilians killed in an airstrike in a southern village was less than a dozen, while he welcomed an investigation of the incident by the Afghan president.
Afghan provincial officials said on Sunday that at least 45 Afghan civilians and 64 suspected Taliban had been killed when US-led coalition forces bombed a village in the south of the country.
However, Thomas said that their survey had shown that 'less than a dozen' civilians had been killed. 'This is still significant, but it is less than what was reported,' he said.
The airstrike took place Friday night in the Gerishk district of southern Helmand province after Taliban fighters ambushed a convoy of Afghan and coalition forces in the Kakarlan area of Haidarabad village.
Afghan president Hamid Karzai meanwhile appointed a commission of government officials and parliamentarians to investigate the reports which claimed heavy casualties caused by bombing.
Haji Dur Alishah, the mayor of Gerishk district who led the Afghan provincial government investigation, told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa on Sunday that at least 45 civilians and 64 Taliban fighters had been killed in the bombing.
Alishah earlier on Saturday had said that the aerial raid left between 120 to 130 Taliban and civilians dead.
'After the completion of the investigation we have found out that 45 civilians including children, women and elderly people and 64 armed men were killed in the five destroyed houses,' Alishah said, adding that the militants took shelter in residential houses after attacking the combined forces.
Provincial police chief Mohammad Hussain Andewal confirmed the same casualty toll as the district mayor and said that another 10 civilians were wounded and taken to three hospitals in the province.
The airstrike was conducted by coalition forces supporting an ongoing NATO-led ISAF operation in the province, ISAF spokeswoman Colonel Maria Carl said.
She confirmed that civilian deaths were caused by the airstrike, but said that the toll was 'much, much lower.'
US military spokesman Major Chris Belcher also confirmed that there had been civilian casualties in the strike.
'The remains of some people who apparently were civilians were found among insurgent fighters who were killed in firing positions in a trench line,' Belcher said in a statement.
The mounting civilian casualties have sparked widespread criticism both inside Afghanistan and in the international community. President Hamid Karzai warned last week that the NATO forces would fail in Afghanistan if the civilian losses continued.
'Afghan lives are not cheap,' Karzai said in his strongest outburst to date.
Reacting to the news, Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer, who is visiting his country's troops in Afghanistan, told a press conference on Saturday that the international forces had not been targeting the civilians intentionally but were caught in the cross-fire.
'Most of the civilian casualties have been caused by the Taliban. They target civilians, they murder civilians, they fight with the cowardly protection of the civilians, they encourage accidental civilian casualties for their propaganda purposes,' Downer said.
© 2007 dpa - Deutsche Presse-AgenturCOMMENT
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Using excessive force where there is a known likelihood of hurting civilians during the military, is categorized as War-Crime.
In the early days of Afghan attack, a few Canadian refused to drop bombs unless their superiors absolutely established and determined that the area is completely free of civilians.
These civilians have no way of stopping armed Talibans from entering their village, neither can they defend themselves from air-strikes. They are being killed only because they are Afghans and their lives are considered cheap by the allied forces.
The Taliban deliberately use every possible opportunity to provoke civilian deaths, including placing civilians where opposing forces would not reasonably expect them.
Read the article. Dead civilians were found in a trench, alongside Taliban in firing-line positions. There'd have been almost no way to avoid killing those particular civilians.
It's hell for the innocents. They can't disobey the Taliban who hold them, they'd be shot without hesitation. They're often doomed.
If all civilian deaths are to be avoided, the only alternative NATO has is to NOT FIGHT THE TALIBAN. Which is precisely the conundrum these brutal criminals seek to create.
Well, in my view, they're only confirming the necessity to fight them all the harder. In the long term, it's completely necessary for the sake of all to have them collectively rotting in their graves.
Karzai, for his part, has no choice but to object, he's a politician who needs popular support. Even when the provincial authorities, some of them Taliban sympathizers, lie about the casualties, their lies can't be proven in the short term. Karzai must lend them credence in the interim and 'condemn those responsible for the tragedy.'
' a few Canadian refused to drop bombs '
Typical Canadian lies . We Canadians endlessly kiss our own ass*s while we deny our 100 year history of slaughtering civillians . We Canadians are not superior as we like to think we are .
We Canadians are just as guilty as those we point out arrogant self-righteous fingers at .
Afghanistan is the perfect place to have a war. Plenty of bad people to kill and no one likes them. The problem is: The U.S. strategy is a complete blunder. The worst military morons couldn't do any worse than what has been done. Add to that the fact that all resources that should have gone to fighting bad guys in Afghanistan are being bled off into pilfering Iraq cronies and you have the perfect storm where the bad guys look like the winners. And the good guys look like losers in every sense of the word, and their commander in chief looks like a clown. What a shameful debacle.
it really is sad that civilians have to be killed because, in reality they themselves allow these coward Muslims to hide among their women and children..and really are too coward to do anything about it themselves...however they are very very good at holding out their hand for 'freebies' 'money' and 'sympathy'
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mike clarkJul 1st, 2007 - 16:27:22
If someone shoots at me they had better kill me because if they don't I will kill them and it dosen't make any diffrence who or what they are,if they don't want our milatary there just say so no one will mind going home, we can also take our money back and burn the popie fields as we leave that way just maybe there will not be money for there little friends to use for arms and less children using there drugs.
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