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BACKGROUND: The Tora Bora cave complex
Aug 16, 2007, 11:51 GMT
Hamburg - The Tora Bora cave complex, in which al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden is believed to have been staying, was used in the 1980s by Afghan Mujahedin rebels during the fight against the Soviet Army.
According to a report by Newsweek magazine, the US CIA secret service paid for the construction of the cave complex located around 50 kilometres from Jalalabad.
Tora Bora in English means 'black dust.' It was always described as being highly secure and impregnable.
Visitors describe the cave complex, which is located 4,000 metres above the sea level, as an underground cave system with a generator and a ventilation system.
Old smuggler trails reach from Tora Bora to Pakistan, 30 kilometres away.
Tora Bora has been massively bombed by the US Air Force during the past two weeks.
Bin Laden, who barricaded himself in Tora Bora during the storming of Jalalabad by Soviet troups in 1989, was not found.
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Piss on you Daskleben, you have no idea what the CIA can do.
We have Bin Laden in custody, when the time is right he will
be presented to the world and tried as a war criminal.
Too bad 007 doesn't know how to speak in respectful english. Of course those who don't like the fact that others have rights and the right to express their opinion will often use such language. It usually shows a lack of education.
We built it.
we have the plans(BECHTEL?)?
Should have included a secret back door.
Seattle
And how do we know that this isn't just a psy ops ploy. Their are so many Bin Ladens sited throughout the world, who is the real Bin Laden.
Their appears to be evidence that is hard to refute, that he is alive and well. Located at one of his many residences in London England, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, West Africa (a whole city built by him), or even in the USA.
Good old Bin Laden, was a scrape goat for the USA to re fund the USA's Military. When 9/11 happened, the USA was almost out of funds for government operations. The Military was at the lowest point in over 20 years. The Pentagon had not been renovated for almost 40 years, and the existing remodel, that was on going, was failing fast.
If you really think that old Bin Laden could have funded, planned, and orchestrated an attack on the USA, when we were supplying his cell phones, internet connections to the USA and other countries, and logistics; you will also belive that jet fuel melts steel (which isn't possible either).
Their is A LOT more going on with our government with Black ops programs than the public has a need to know about.
Stumble across the wrong data, and your life is ruined; stumble across the correct data, and your career starts on a new path in a creative direction.
Let's just say, it all started in 1947 at Roswell Air Force Base in New Mexico in 1947.
In 1947.
HAhaha, Purring Black Cat
Funny post, gee I alsmost thought you were 'in the Know'. Well, for a nanosecond or two at least.
Sonofagun! It was that flying saucer that crashed that started all this? And all this time I thougt it was Mrs. O'Learys cow.
We sure have some strange ones running loose. We have Bin Laden in custody and this will be revealed? That's good to know.
'Scuse me, I gotta go take my lithium now.
Puring black cat: Who ever said jet fuel 'melts' steel? You just have to get it above a critical temperature and it begins to lose its strength. That's why the steel structural components are covered with a fire-resistant coating during construction, to preserve structural integrity during a normal fire. Nobody designs a skyscraper to withstand the impact of a fully fuel-loaded airliner.
I can never be sure whether you conspiracy nuts are really that stupid, or just pretend to be.
What is up with the 1947? When will everyone learn that that wasnt the turning point, it was the discovery of the 'all spark'. You all need to watch Transformers, then it will make more sense.
BUSH: I . . I, uh, lessee, what was I bout t'say - Dick, hep me here . . . .
CHENEY: Mr. President, you were about to say that you don't like that gentleman over there who appears to be left-handed and does not appear to believe in Jesus.
BUSH: Tha's right Dick -- yew shore is smort. Got a purty way o' talkin', too. WhaddoIdo 'bout that?
CHENEY: Put him on the Terrorist List, sir.
BUSH: Yeah . . ahhh -- hell yeah. Why didn't ah thank o'that, Dick? Let's put'em oahn ma'list . . . . Say Dick, how 'bout them there libruls?
CHENEY: On the list, sir. Already done, Mr. President.
BUSH: And them librul news media aiysholes?
CHENEY: Done.
BUSH: How 'bout them dang Ruuhshens, and the British? I don't lack thet there Pewtin guy much no more; ain't got no use fer that Brown feller neither, makin' me wear a cotton-pickin' suit an'all.
CHENEY: Already done.
BUSH: Well I declare, Dick, yer oahn top o'thangs . . . . Say Dick, is thur anybuddy whut ain't on thet thar list?
CHENEY: Well, uh, yes sir. You. And me.
American sheeple needs a good dose of fear mongering and lies. Here is an example!
Remember flight 93? Rigth after it went down FBI stop media from going to the site according to Media because FBI were testing for radiation.
I think they were picking up the shrapnels from missle they fired on it.
Have you seen an airplane crash that left the largest pieces to be only a few inches? Maybe in 100 years they would release what really happened to flight 93. I really don't think a couple of passegars could have taken the actions as they claim.
Seriously? Aliens, gov't consipiricies, shooting ft 93 down, and UBL in custody? Wow, we're at war with a civilization that knows how to travel faster-than-light. mastered inter-galactic travel, yet they cant kill a bunch of soft skinned, uneducated, carbon-based life forms?
Why is it impossible for the crazies (liberals?) to accept that there are, indeed, bad people in this world. People who are jealous of the American Way of Life, and will do anything to either bring themselves up to our level (honest, hard working, legal immigrants) or bring us down to theirs (islmo-facists are good examples.)
There might be a few ties to corruption here and there, and there was definately some bad decisions made by our leaders. But if you really dont believe that terrorists have done these things, do me a favor. Go to eastern Afghanistan/Western Pakistan, and ask around. I'm sure you'll find the answers, either in this life or the next.
Liberals do know there are bad people in the world. They include any violently militant religious fundamentalists, and neo-cons, among others.
I just checked with Mork from Ork. He wanted me to pass a message along to this esteemed group. Of course, that message is Na-Nu Na-Nu. And to keep an eye out for a giant egg with a little hairy guy popping out who will not quit running his mouth.
What a group!
And here I thought the Twilight Zone was cancelled years ago.
Why don't they just extend an invite to Osama to go bird hunting with 'Dick' Cheney.
Osama is either dead or in custody somewhere because there have been no videos of him that reference current events on al jazeera in years. Zawahiri is probably in the Pakistan protected zones. The Pakis are playing both sides. The Tora Bora complex probably was planned and financed by the US because the US was on their side in the 80s against the Soviets. A classic case of unintended consequences. Now Karzai is cozying up to Iran and condemning the US 'ally' Pakistan. AQ has established a new base in the protected zones and we can't cross the border to get them. This part of the world can't be conquered and ruled, it can only be managed.
Skooshy.
this part of the world can't be conquered and ruled can,it only be managed.
sounds like we will have to pay for pipeline access thru Afghanistan how evil.
So the C.I.A funded the Tora Bora complex, and they also funded the those mad religious nuts the Muhajadeen.and of course another few million to the greedy Pakistanis.
All this to help the mad Mulla's throw out the Rusky's who were invited in by the then socialist Government, to help defeat the Muhajadeen
One can only Wonder how better off the Afghans would be today if they had twenty years of socialist free health and education.
Oh well its all turned to bit us on the ass ,and boy we deserve it.
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DasKleibenAug 16th, 2007 - 13:01:27
How is it that the CIA funded this project, yet the most powerful military in the world is unable to get access to whomever may be
occupying it at any given time?
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