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Freed Muslim terror suspect says Britain is "police state"
Feb 8, 2007, 7:55 GMT
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The very fact he can say its a police state shows that its NOT a police state.
He ought to be grateful to find himself free rather than end up in an unidentified grave as is the wont in many muslim countries.
Abnormal measures have to be taken in the current climate.
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lets just say that muslim 'leaders' bitching and complaining is not entirely unexpected, its all they ever seem to do, when theyre not preaching about jews being pigs, and killing kaffirs
Yep,
Its time to put a terror watch on all of religion............reason forever y'all!
deepak u wud be felt same if u r in his place
I just can't understand why the Birmingham muslim community don't come out and thank the police for stopping this evil plot? Who cares what if the police arrested some people that later turn out to be innocent? At least they were released within 7 days unlike Guantanamo Bay where muslims have been held for years without trial.
If the muslim community want to play a constructive role in British society then they need to get behind the police, support the law of the land and come out unequivially against the terrorists and apologists within their own ranks.
The released terror suspect complains that Britain is a police state for Muslims, what a pity he didn't go further and explain just who was causing the terror in Britain.
He also goes on to say that the experience will stay with him for the rest of his life, I expect that the degree he is studying for at a British university will also stay with him too. I hope he goes on to get his degree and spreads his education among his fellow Muslim's, for it is only education that will defeat these evil acts perpetrated by the Muslim minority !
This suspect says its a police state, but he was arrested according to the law, held for a period that the law provides for and is released promptly when found (or presumed) innocent. In muslim lands forced conversion victims, mutilated innocents and kaffirs are held indefinitely and are later released to their families in body bags after years of torture. Or they are released alive but with a muslim name and are reported to now profess the Muslim faith.
If this was a police state, he would be in a labor camp somewhere. If this was a police state, he would have been taken in the dead of night by hooded men. That's what happens to Christians and Buddhists and Hinudus in Muslim lands. And they say Britain is a police state?
Let me spell out something here clearly. FIFTH COLUMN.
And where are the moderates who thank God that the evil these man allegedly attempted was twarted? Where are the sane muslims who support innocent Britons' right to live in peace and safety? DO they exist? If not is every British Muslim planning or plotting something?
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I really do wonder if the islamic communities of the west are capable of portraying themselves in any light other than that of the 'victim.' It is true that the majority of muslims disagree with extrimist views on terrorism, yet these same muslims do little to openly renounce and fight terrorism. It is ignorant to believe that the British police would fabricate an entire terrorist plot to merely arrest a few men and detain them for a short period. Abu Bakr has apparently been found innocent, but if his week-long detention allows the police to capture those who would willingly murder innocent British citizens, it is selfish and irresponsible of him to make ridiculous assertions regarding the British legal system, a system he clearly has a limited knowledge of.
'It is true that the majority of muslims disagree with extrimist views on terrorism'
You are as brainwashed as they are my friend. How could you or anyone else possibly know what the majority of Muslims think?
Did any of you see that news article about them complaining the police raids made the community feel bad. What an attitude! It seems they believe police business has nothing to do with them, but just nuisance, while the police was just trying their best to protect the people of this country. Now someone was arrested as a suspect and released as proven to be innocent, all according to the law and this someone is complaining this is a police state. I do hope his view represents very few people in this country.
Robio:
I would have thought it common-sense to acknowledge that the majority of muslims regard terrorism as wrong. Whilst i maintain that the islamic community does not go nearly far enough to combat terrorism and tends to claim 'victimisation' as a defense, it is paranoia on your part to believe that they hold a general belief that terrorism is justified.
The real issue here seems to be - Why he was a terrorism suspect in the first place. Intelligence that the arrest was based on was proven flawed within just 7 days of his arrest.
I find the above comment dangerous. There were many critics of Hitler at some point who were not silenced, and it was a climate of economic depression and anxiety. Only much later Germany turned into the totalitarian, atrocity-laden state that was the Third Reich.
A state is not an entity whose feelings are harmed, so the body went a bit over the top. The point of the quote is that the system is being geared in a racist way.
I think Britain is a nice place to live, and after the July 2005 bombing the police actually help Muslims who were victims of verbal assaults etc. I think it should stay that way, and for that to work, the accusation of racism (or religious discrimination) creeping into the system has to be considered, and taken seriously.
Note that terrorists benefit most from a 'climate of fear' and alienation of Muslims of the non-Muslim societies they live in.
sorry my 'dangerous' was referring to the *first* comment, not the above! sorry
any body imigrant or native,if they dont like how we do things is free to leave.moslems are responsible for recent attacks ,so why does this man not
understand why the police do whats needed.this man is no fool so surely he knows why,or does he not want to know why?
Well at least with this incident you know the police are doing there job. And as a bonus thanks to the muslims reactions it becomes obvios what these people are contributing to the growth of civilisation, or more appropriatly how they are retarding its growth. I say if your not happy with a great freedom loveing country like the UK then pack your bags, slam a towel over your head and go back to your homeland. Just remember that everyone has the right to defend themselves from aggression, aggressively and as such sometimes innocents will be hurt.
Why do so many self-righteous people prattle on about the other guys terrorism while being blind to terrorism launched on their behalf. The illegal invasion of Iraq is state terrorism right before your eyes.
'Why do so many self-righteous people prattle on about the other guys terrorism while being blind to terrorism launched on their behalf. The illegal invasion of Iraq is state terrorism right before your eyes.'
That is spurious. It's implicit in these posts that people refer to 'terrorism' as actions by individuals against citizenry (ie. bombing public transit), not state action. Seizing upon the term 'terrorism' and comparatively re-applying it at a different scale, namely 'state terrorism', is just a sleight of argument.
In keeping with the point then, you'd discover the difficulty of citing contemporary documented cases where British citizens, on behalf of British citizenry, conducted acts of public carnage (presumably to suit your bent, in an Islamic country).
you people know nothing of islam and presuming comments out of situations and coparisons which have no value clear sign of racism
you people make presuming judgements which muslims dont make execept of what has been presumed in the quran like the beliefs christians and jews etc..
i suggest compare the UK society before 911 and even 7/7 and their relation to muslims
because first of all you people have no knowledge of islam like what ever you think islam is that its a spectrum and theres extreamists etc.. which is not like that because the socalled extreamist groups have existed before 7/7 and 911 from the start muslims in the UK but they didnt hurt anyone or do anything to attract media attention and the muslims groups who will condem 7/7 have alwys existed and its a religious basis why they are against the othes say they wll never ever think of 7/7 to do or become like the minority groups of muslims
i can compare what UK is doing in iraq and afghanistan to 7/7 which were cause of it 7/7 but that wouldnt totaly make sense
the hypocracey with so-called british soceity if you dont fit the norm ur an outsider but i though there was freedom in this country so if you[women] cover you self its suddenly wrong while you have women dressing as sex objects is acceptable and to some a british value
islamic religion which for religious people dont belive in nationalism, tribalism and ethnicism and its sepreate from the so called integration which is stupid to say muslims have been in in uk for a hundread years what integration
a muslims[some] dont believe in voting [in a democracey] its against islam why should he forced to do that for the sake of integration because i thought its a free soceity
he isnt hurting anyone and he is working and he dosnt want to mix with non-muslims which islam erges to do to keep away from sin why should he be forced to do that for the sake of integration he isnt hurting anybody or calling for harm
he believes in sharia which he believes is the best law for any society which every praticing muslim must believe in because he knows from islam as the true faith shiaria is the best law even by against democractic laws and if you want to debate with him about why sharia is better them all of your laws he will happy to oblige because non-muslims only have misconceptions of shiaria and have no clue what it is
he isnt hurting anybody or calling for harm and i though this soceity is free and freedom of speech to say democracey is wrong etc.. and sharias is truth
he is just a regular person who lives in the land believes in islam as the true religion and only truth and follows and honestly earns to take care of his family
majority of socalled muslims in the UK are not even religious to say but because of raciists nature, as i am presuming now to say all white middle class are inherintly racists target all but im not going to say that
thing is theres been peace and there can be peace again, thing is muslim so called extreamist have always existed to justify something like 7/7 for decades in the UK and the books they use were written like 800 years ago etc.. they never think of doing anything like 7/7 only did after UK invade afghanistan and then iraq while supporting isreali genocide and evil arab ragimes who ore dicatators in muslim countries because of UK and USA mainly but then after 911 you people started to make laws and arrest people for nothing etc. then did they say we have justification for something like 7/7
the people who have gone to extream is only you because you are the ones who started raid peoples homes and start getting invovled in muslim affairs whch you know nothing veryhthing was at peace and it can be again. even osma bin lalden would negotiate with USA tody if he was asked by USA because the quran commands him to do so but because you presume he is like something or did this you dont want to negotiate or even debate who is right if your so confident in democracey
'i can compare what UK is doing in iraq and afghanistan to 7/7'
My apologies, but your long post was more than I had time to read at the moment, but the above quote did jump out at me.
Afghanistan? What the UK is doing in Afghanistan? In very general terms, the UK is opposing the Taleban in Afghanistan. Does that pose a problem for you? Why might that be? (Please also try to limit your answer to as few paragraphs as possible.)
Thankyou.
I have just read Hitlers comments, and fell off my chair
another radical I fear in the making, no religion has the
right to ignore the laws of the land, no religion has the
right to murder, maim, innocent people, if you want to effect
change in society do what the rest of us mere mortals have to do
and vote, use politics and not religion to force change
something the IRA are doing now.
If any other religous minority finds it is not happy living
in our society then they can always leave to a country that
is more understanding or dominated by their specific beliefs
I sat on an International flight to the US a few weeks ago
in my row we had a Christian, Jew, Hindu, Muslim, and we
were all arguing throughout the flight about ..............
Chelsea, A
I have just read Hitlers comments, and fell off my chair
another radical I fear in the making, no religion has the
right to ignore the laws of the land, no religion has the
right to murder, maim, innocent people, if you want to effect
change in society do what the rest of us mere mortals have to do
and vote, use politics and not religion to force change
something the IRA are doing now.
If any other religous minority finds it is not happy living
in our society then they can always leave to a country that
is more understanding or dominated by their specific beliefs
I sat on an International flight to the US a few weeks ago
in my row we had a Christian, Jew, Hindu, Muslim, and we
were all arguing throughout the flight about ..............
Chelsea, Arsenal performances
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