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Fifth terrorist suspect arrested in Britain (1st Lead)
Jul 1, 2007, 12:23 GMT
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Attempted murder of innocents has no excuse and does not need your craven apologies.
High time there was more than the deafening silence from British Muslims about these atrocities.
If you are a member of the Islamic community that morally and financially supports these would-be murderers, expect to be stopped and searched in the street, expect to be seen as a suspect, expect to be criticised - or else renounce your murderous creed.
I am a member of white middle class Britain that has been forced against my will to fund decades of attrocities against muslims on all sorts of levels. Why do you assume I have to be Muslim to acknowledge what we have done to them? Do you not see that peace brings peace and war brings war. Oh, you are too busy reading the script the neocons wrote for you.
I'm not assuming you're a Muslim, only perceiving that you are an idiot.
Unfortunately, there are always people ready to apologise for being victims and implicitly asking for more. We Scots don't feel like that today - we too thank that Muslims have something to answer for.
Ian McCulloch
... are not righting a wrong, they haven't suffered 'Western Imperialism' or any other such nonsense. They're pursuing the hostile anti-Christian, anti-Jewish anti-anybody who is not a Muslim politic.
America is not a valid excuse for Islamic violence. The truth is that Islam has had a long and blood history of violence – long before America was ever discovered.
What is so interesting about all this type of UK/US bemoaning, is that it separates those in the Middle East from any and all responsibility in these matters.
If for example, the US, UK or Russia were meddling in Middle Eastern affairs, it was precisely because someone in the Middle East thought they could gain something by it. And when the deal goes bad, or it is exposed [not counting all the successful deals], then and only then do we hear all the anti-western sentiments.
[All those poor Muslims – the victims of outside influence – again!]
Hmm.…
Either Muslims are going to behave in the Western/non-Islamic world [including the Buddhist regions] or their movement is going to have to be restricted to those parts which are Islamic.
Then they can bemoan that !
Like school - the world is going to make Muslims sit in the corner.
Muslims simply make a point of giving themselves a western name in these columns and spread their religious propaganda message > it is so obvious.
It is difficult for them to see their dreams of Islamic domination of Europe and then the world draining away with every terror attack and honour killing.
It is the Western dommination of the Middle East that is causing the problems. You can throw all sorts of jibes at Muslims but at the end of the day the facts are the facts. We (our politicians) started it. We can end it just as soon as we wish. And we can paint it any way we like while we hide our heads in the sand. But if we kill their children then they will want to kill us. This doesn't make them somehow more evil than us. That makes them human. We need to resolve the source of this problem (our treatment of the Middle East, etc.) to make it possible to resolve the problems of terrorism, on both sides. No amount of rascism is going to change this. You need to put the blame for this at the feet of the western politicians who started this. They thought they were immune from the fall out, but we are catching it now. We should have spoken out long ago. These words would be true no matter the colour of my skin. But it does amuse me that you think I am Muslim. I am not a Muslim. I am British and white. Try to think about the subject at hand without automatically using the justifications taught you by Bush et al. You will see a very sickening picture of what we have done. Slowly you may become aware, and eventually the evil may even be ended. We can hope.
I think you are thoroughly confused about who thinks what.
Just for your info, Bush is American not British.
We all understand that you are saying you are not a muslim.
That changes nothing about where folks think the responsibilities lie.
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BoswellJul 1st, 2007 - 13:09:38
Even if none of the public deserves this kind of attack, our country as an entity does deserve to be attacked. This whole situation is the result of Tony Blair's (and many previous leaders) policies of partisanship and support of a terrible war with a terrible cost, and the many previous decades of abuse. Many will say Muslims deserve to die. But that rascism is the very thing that has allowed our country to do so much worse on such a vast scale than a little flames, and the lure of the dollar. We should look squarely to those who started the whole thing - our own leaders. We are facing a counter attack - not even one of George Bush's 'pre-emptive strikes'. Why did we attack and connive in the first place, over the course of the last century? Because we just did not care. Well, now the chickens have come home to roost, and more innocent people are going to die. We should be trying for peace ourselves for once. Only then will we be left in peace ourselves.
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