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In photos: 'San Francisco Olympic Torch - Demonstrators Prepare'
By M&C News Apr 9, 2008, 18:52 GMT
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The torch's only American stop is San Francisco.
Free Tibet!
you should go there and watch, then you will understand what is really happening..
This is funny, 3/4 of those that are protesting have never been to Tibet，and the other 1/4 are wearing clothes, posters, and probably the ink were all made in China. Too bad, that 9 out of 10 times economies trump morals...but hey...do as I say, not as I do...right?
Oh, I see. If I haven't been to Iraq and use oil based products in my car I shouldn't comment on what's happening there either? Yeah right. It's time for the Chinese regime to start talking with the Dalai Lama and stop being so sensitive about losing face.
its not going to texas stupid.
'man, I don't any Rwadians'
Face, face for what...I am sure in the blindspot that you call news here, that it shows the 'real' Tibet happenings...give me a break...I deplore what has happened there, but the rest of the world has given little chance for China to succeed except to be a factory to the world...so next time you go fill up your 50% Chinese made parts car with foreign oil, thank the economies of the world for allowing you to do so...but hey, as long as I can sit in my own backyard and quarterback something without actually having to do something...that is doing something right?
Tibet – the “Inconvenient Truth”
1. Tibetan Buddhist hierarchy – a combination of religion institution and secular governing body:
Contrary to the popular belief (molded and ingrained mostly by the western mainstream medias and probably in the textbooks as well) in the West, Tibetan Buddhist society was, never a pure form of religious institution in Chinese history, instead, a fundamentalism for as well as an extension of the then secular government solely consisted of slavery landlords. Tibetan Buddhism monasteries both directly and indirectly preserved the feudal system ruling the region for centuries with extreme cruelty, such as peeling off slaves’ skins to make drums, beheading prisoners to use their skull to make bowls. Dismantlement of limbs and gouging out of eyes were common punitive punishment was a memory as recent as 1940s of last century until the communist uprooted ruling class of the then Tibetan region.
The western so-called communist “invasion” and later on its crackdown of rebellion in the ensuing year was in fact not prompted by the quest for territorial gain (anyone with rich knowledge of Chinese history would know the legitimacy behind China’s claim of the region as a integrated part of the country), but rather the result of inevitable clash between two vastly different social ideologies.
As a result most of the Tibet exiles following Dalai Lama, old or new, are those who used to be the beneficiaries of that Tibetan feudal system. They are not real Tibetan people.
2. Dalai Lama – never a spiritual leader in Chinese Buddhism followers’ mind:
To understand this, western minds must abandon the perceived comparison between Buddhism and Christianity, particularly Catholic Church. Chinese Buddhism, due to its pacifist philosophy of life, has never developed into a unified and highly organized religious system. There is NEITHER a Buddhist “Bible” NOR a Buddhist “Vatican” to speak of is self evidence.
In Buddhism the reverence towards a certain living individual is of only academic value – no more, no less. In Chinese traditional point of view, living in seclusion was and still is regarded of the highest Way of Buddhist living. Participation in politicking is scorned off by mainstream Chinese Buddhism. From this standing point, it is not difficult to see why Dalai Lama does not have the respect from Chinese people, let alone win hearts and souls.
The Nobel Prize to Dalai Lama was just a poorly orchestrated politic joke in an ordinary Chinese eye. So please, if you happen to see Mr. Lama coming your way in the street, don’t be scared. A polite “Hi, there!” will be sufficient enough to fulfill your social courtesy.
3. Any logic behind the western medias’ truth-less report and inflammable commentaries:
Firstly, if there was no western reporter inside Tibet during the course of the riot, how can the various news agencies could justifiably declare they had told the public a true story? Second, manipulations of photographs, distortion of facts are surely not deemed as professionally ethical or even legal under the law of “freedom of speech”? Thirdly, when facts desperately in short supply, on what basis did editors and commentators alike make all those comments and accusations?
If we to take a leaf out of the book of the western justice system – “innocent until proven guilty” – to depict the bias of the western medias in this Tibet issue, we have to reverse the sentence and plus, and then it shall read like this: “guilty until proven innocent – but we are the judge and the jury”.
But there is the famous English saying even more deafening:
“You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time”. I hope you take it to your mind – because it is YOUR reputation on the line; and what’s more, as a news agency, reputation is your flesh and blood. Without them you are bound to be out of business – sooner or later.
4. Reaction from some of the world leaders:
It is absolutely shocking to see how they have acted the way like, with due respect to the artists, a pop star – caring only the quality of the tenor and the velocity of the voice, but not giving a dime about what exactly what they were talking about.
Isn’t it the leader of a nation should be the most knowledgeable (with the help of his/her think tank) person among his/her peers? Maturity should be the virtue of his/her leadership, right? And most importantly the national interest should certainly be the order of his/her job?
But hell no! As the anti-China shenanigan uncoiling we see you guys became headless, putting up some ugly no-brainer shows that certainly will not benefit the countries that you are elected to serve. Trust me on this one: whenever there is an action, there will be a reaction. If you want a friend you must yourself act like one; if you want an enemy you just carry on what you are doing now. China is not your wholesale market – she has survived over 6000 years, and mind you, for most part she had no idea where on earth the West was.
By the way, USA, the self-proclaimed leader of the free world, is just over 200 years old. If culture is the soul food and history the time for a nation to grow strong and healthy, it certainly lacks in both. The establishment of a strong and beautiful nation is just like the making of a noble spirit. From this point of view I tend to agree with the Scots: the American Whiskey (or any other Whiskey for that matter) is not Whisky.
As for the topic of morality and human rights, I dare say each and every Chinese baby has been born over 6000 years old. Please save your breath, or better still – lecture to yourselves if you want to. We know what we want and no force in the world could ever change that.
5. An advice to those who threaten to boycott Beijing Olympics:
I challenge you do what you say and say what you mean, please.
To your knowledge, the most cultivated value in Chinese tradition is to be humble and modest. We learned it since childhood.
What does this to do with “boycotting Beijing Olympics”? It surely does.
Because your boycott threats have just betrayed your feel of arrogance hidden in your innermost heart though it is entirely unjustifiable, which is just the adversary to the above-said value so cherished by Chinese people. Tell you the truth: you do know how to flatter yourselves indeed.
I advise you don’t ever backtrack your “boycott” threat, seriously. Because if you do, you will find you are NOT welcomed in China no matter where you go. And you’d better keep your words. Thus, at least we will respect you to be a person of your own conviction – be it wise or stupid.
6. Shame on China?
I don’t think so. To quell a riot and to protect innocent people and to ensure law and order are nothing to be ashamed of. Those violent mob led by Tibetan monks are the shameful lot. And so are those who use physical violence in protest against the Olympic Torch Rally. They have just shown the world how ugly and brutal and lawless they are. It is none too blind for those who don’t wish to see. As to those who insist to twist the facts they are simply from verbal diarrhea.
7. If you care to know who I am:
I am proud to tell you this: I am no government employee if this is what you want to know. But I am well educated and probably know the world a little better than those who are making big noises on their over-sized stages.
I am just an ordinary Chinese!
Dalai Lama is a liar in any sense. Gere is so stupid.
%^=O Hitler Face is very upset about removing his comment... He said 'Poo' and he meant it
Over the last 60 years over 1.2 million Tibetans have been massacred in cold blood by the Chinese military. Why has the world remained silent? Why?
China's human rights abuses are 'staggering': the detention of hundreds of thousands of people, including political activists, for 'reeducation' programs, and forced labor camps; and the liberal use of the death penalty in China -- including for political prisoners -- which makes China the site of 8 of every 10 government administered executions carried out in the world!
It is clear that the Communists can't be trusted at all and they have a bag full of tricks to fool not only Tibetans but the people of China with a state-controlled press. The solution is a free Tibet. There is no doubt that a sovereign Tibet would be a savior state not only for Tibetans but for all ethnic groups of China who have nowhere to go if they disagree with the CCP. A free Tibet would be such a free democratic heaven and haven.
Dear Mr. ordinary Chinese,
My dear neighbor… you overstayed, then you made me sleep in the couch, then you locked the door on me. Time has come for you to leave. Just leave! We will pick up your mess. I know you thought this is your house and bought a new TV and AC… you can take them as you please.
The news in China will read… (The torch toured the world) and have cheery people waving Chinese flags. You will succeed in completely fooling your own people. The world did not make you factory workers, your government made you factory workers.
BTW, you are so right that you cannot fool everybody all the time. What can I say if someone steals and then accuse me of stealing? I am not going to be fooled.
It does not take a very educated Tibetan to figure this out. I am an ordinary Tibetan. My grandmother’s bedtime stories had Tibetan kings and queens… she never mentioned Chinese king.
The protest is not on Olympics nor against Chinese people. It is your CCP govt who loves to keep the control and the power. We do not want any more killings to happen in Tibet because of your stubborn desire to bring the torch to Lhasa.
I do not think Mao Tse Tung was a mad man to serve his country. You as Chinese have every right to defend your country… but why is it wrong if we defend ours? Why do you think you have to eliminate us? We had Buddhism that teaches philosophy… we weren’t ignorant. A monk could be of any race, any economic background and get education. In Tibet, respect is first given to the monks and no matter you are an aristocrat or king … you have to bow down with your head on the floor to the simple monk who can be a daughter or son of a peasant.
Talking about slaves… America had slaves, Britain had slaves, and it was abolished. We could have abolished slaves ourselves. Why did we need you Chinese to do that for us? How can the world watch a country eat another and say nothing…
Dalai Lama is dear to all Tibetans. Why do we love him so much? We just love him. I am not an uneducated fool to blindly follow a religion. I follow him because he is righteous and reasonable.
Tibet will be a zone of peace. Free the Tibetan people…
Pema
(Pema means Lotus in Tibetan which is completely different from chinese)
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deaner in TexasApr 9th, 2008 - 19:09:55
Wait 'til the torch gets to Texas, all the butt-kissing walmart-worshippers here will line up and clap like trained seals. Texans just wanna comply!
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