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First family wedding seeks cover in Texas
May 9, 2008, 11:47 GMT
Jenna Bush, the daughter of President George W. Bush EPA/PETER FOLEY
Washington - A first family wedding with no paparazzi?
Presidential daughter Jenna Bush is retreating to the family home in Crawford, Texas, to get married Saturday, ducking the demand for publicity that would have gone with a White House wedding, even though the event might have raised her father's sagging popularity.
She's the first presidential child to take vows with dad in office since 1992. That's when US President George W Bush's sister, Dorothy, married during the White House tenure of their father, George Bush.
That, too, was a private affair, as were the weddings of 13 of the 22 children of presidents who have married while their fathers were in the White House since 1820, according to Doug Wead, author of All the Presidents' Children.
Instead of bucking tradition, Jenna, 26, is in fact upholding a publicity-shy history by marrying Henry Hager, 29, son of a prominent Virginia Republican family, out of public sight.
No photographers. Few details. An outdoor affair with 200 guests at the family's Texas ranch. It was in keeping with the style of Jenna, who once stuck her tongue out at the press.
Not that she's been spared during her father's seven-plus years as president. When she and her twin sister Barbara violated drinking laws, when they were still under-age in 2001, both made a media splash. Jenna had to pay a 600-dollar-fine in Texas for one of several offenses.
She explained her need for privacy to Vogue magazine recently.
'Henry and I are far less glamorous than the White House,' Jenna said. 'I was raised in Texas, and it just felt right.'
The president - who has spent more time than his predecessors away from the White House, mostly at the ranch - flew Thursday to Texas to join the rest of the family.
'I was watching the weather very carefully,' Bush told ABC Television's Good Morning America this week. 'We, of course, are hoping for good weather. I think it will be beautiful. I know the wildflowers are blooming, and it's very green. We've gotten some good spring rains.'
But Daddy has already leaked some details. He told ABC that it was his idea to build an outdoor altar for the religious vows.
'That's where she's going to get married, right in front of this Texas limestone altar with a cross on it - by our lake,' the president said.
The wedding, however, is a case of separation of powers, with First Lady Laura Bush 'in charge,' in the words of her husband. But she has kept details under wraps.
Earlier this week, she tore into the Myanmar military government for its handling of the cyclone aftermath, smiling only at the end of the White House press conference when a reporter wished her well for the wedding.
'We're getting, for us, our first son,' the first lady said.
The female twins are the first couple's only children. She joked that the grandchildren might have names like 'George and Georgia, Georgina' or even 'Georgette.'
Jenna 'just wanted to get married at home. She just feels a lot more comfortable there. ... We want what she wants,' Laura said.
Would the president be out early Sunday for his usual bike ride?
'Since he probably won't be staying up to dance the last dance, it'll probably be early,' Laura said, laughing.
USA Today reported that such private weddings reflect a American social trend against over-the-top, encrusted traditions.
The last high style White House weddings were Lynda Bird Johnson's 1967 marriage to Marine Captain Chuck Robb, while dad Lyndon was mired in the Vietnam War, and Tricia Nixon's 1971 all-out affair with a towering, 2-metre-plus cake as dad Richard launched his re-election campaign.
Jenna and Henry met in 2004, when he was working in the White House for Bush's former political strategist, Karl Rove, USA Today reported.
The couple are to live in Baltimore, where they have bought a 128- year-old row house for 440,000 dollars. He is to work at an energy company while Jenna is an intern for UNICEF in Latin America. She has written several books, including a children's book that she wrote with her mother.
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Aren't his kids serving in the illegal Iraq invasion?
Matt Damon said that once.
I noticed he never served either. Well, why leave the food service table for war, when you can make war pictures and never get shot, right?
How about you?
'the illegal Iraq invasion?'
Who says it's 'illegal'?
Hey Jenna & Henrey , Good luck with you're new happiness ! George and Laura , I'm happy so much for you too . Have lots of babies you two. I wish I could see Texas , and be part of wonderful lives . But I know that you're there , and the wonderful American troopes are pullin for ya too . Tears i've cried , but love hides in them . Love , Rock n Roll Fan .
...so was Clinton's lying to a federal judge.
By the way, exactly what law was broken by invading Iraq?
..that when I correct uninformed, piss-ant posters about the facts, pussies like Dan, above, have to respond with their little insults, because that's all they have, when I'm through with them?
Jenna , you and your sister , are NOT sluts . Henrey , you are a lucky man , to Wed into a solid family . I wish I could be with you . Laura , George , I know your proud of them , with beautiful perfect wisdom . SO , your comment was horrible and disgusting ; if your UP for it , there are plenty on the internet . Don't denigrate Children you don't even know . I make some pretty Hatefull comments in this forum , but they don't concern innocent children . srtaighten-out , or go some place else .
reading this stuff and im wondering what this sp4 person is talking about ?.seems to be talking to him or her self ????
looks like sp4 is sending threats again..
you know he did in winter threaten hillary clitons life..
wait for the knock on your door
..how, exactly, did I threaten anyone's life????
Is this a Michael Moore movie, or something?
'yah May 11th, 2008 - 19:54:05'
'to sp4 May 11th, 2008 - 19:55:36'
If you are going to flood the site with your schizophrenic, SP4 stalking, idiotic sock-puppets you might want to wait a little longer between posts. As it is you just look like a pathetic obsessive compulsive instead of the group of sp4 haters you wish to portray.
Th Iraq invasion was, and still is, unlawful under international law. But then we know you republican yankee scumbags have absolutely no respect for the law.
Now the Bush brats are going to be pushing out more monkey-men from the bottom of the gene pool.
'SP4: ever noticeMay 10th, 2008 - 19:31:53
..that when I correct uninformed, piss-ant posters about the facts, pussies like Dan, above, have to respond with their little insults, because that's all they have, when I'm through with them?'
Sp overstates his importance and effect. Notice the petty little insults he uses, as well, to no effect other than to diminish anything that he might of said that is intelligent.
But, back to the story, that all texans really know how to do, make more texans. Too bad they're all at the bottom of the brains department. Is Sp the god-father?
...what law was broken by invading Iraq???
What law?
What 'international' law, as if we abided by any of them...?
Honestly, it's a simple question. Who is the dickhead who cannot come up with the answer?
What law???
When did I EVER threaten anyone physically?
Simple, east-to-answer questions....
'SP4: Again...May 12th, 2008 - 01:38:37
...what law was broken by invading Iraq???
What law?
What 'international' law, as if we abided by any of them...?
Honestly, it's a simple question. Who is the dickhead who cannot come up with the answer?'
I wonder who the dickhead is, who has posts removed for profanity, obscenity and racism, who can't understand international law. That's got to be the one and thank God only SPfricking idiot. As for not abiding by international law, that makes the US a criminal state, doesn't it. By the way, a-hole the international law being broken is the one about thou shalt not invade another country simply for regime change. That means, in simple words that SPmentally challenged can understand, you don't do it just because you don't like the guy. It is very similar to the idea that just because I don't like SP, I don't go and kill him. I could get all sorts of humanitarian awards for doing the deed, but I'm not going to do it. If we let SP live, then he has the rest of his life being a lonely, ignorant, uneducated web troll. I just couldn't deprive him of that pleasure.
'When did I EVER threaten anyone physically?'
Not physically, but verbally. You don't remember? Your memory is either shot or very selective. Too many bong-hits for Jesus, SP?
I noticed you did not provide what, you thought, might be a threat I made.
That's because there never was one.
I think it is you who may have the substance abuse problem here.
This is just another way to insult. It is typical of the generation of childish Internet children who, in the age of communication, have nothing to say. How sad, what with all the tools we never had, but we produce so much more.
Go back to Mom's basement boy. Go back and handle yourself over this.
Surely the self-admitted 2 degree College man could come up with some retort that shows a modicum of his much vaunted intelligence. Where did you get your alleged degrees, SP, out of a box of Corn Flakes? Which Trade School did you get your degrees at? Was it at the Pot Growers of America? Whatever brains you did have are now toast.
What 'International' Law was broken by invading Iraq???
Where is the chucklehead who was pimping this?
sp4 is trying to cover his tracks don't it .
The questions were:
1) when did I ever threaten Hillary verbally, or otherwise?
2) what 'international' laws were broken by the US invading Iraq (besides cruelty to animals)?
These are simple questions. You internet pudknockers were the one's who said it. Quit handling your knobs for a moment and, at least, try to come up with some kind of answer. I cannot wait.
Waiting...
sp is doing the shuck and jive. He be doin' the dance. The chucklehead is none other than EssPee himself. Dance, monkey, dance.
Waiting...
Waiting for the loudmouths who shot their mouths off to deliver....
Waiting for answers, not just jive....
Notice...no responses yet...
Waiting...still waiting....
the answers are in the posts. Are you so fricking stupid, or stoned, to see them?
ERssPee said this: 'that when I correct uninformed, piss-ant posters about the facts, pussies like Dan, above, have to respond with their little insults, because that's all they have, when I'm through with them?'
Taking a look at your responses, all that can be seen is you have got to be a brain damaged druggie. It is all an illusion, a drug dream, a product of you misfiring synapses. Where is Dan's post? Another figment of your fevered imagination. When you are through with them? HAHAHAHAHA....
Have another bong hit, and dance, monkey, dance. This is too much fun.
Rather than waiting for answers, delivered to him on a silver platter, perhaps SP should go in search for them, himself. Remember, grasshopper, it is the seeking, not the finding that is the important thing.
I read it, no he didn't threaten anyone.
The threat wasn't on this thread. But it is out there for people who know. This is going to stick with SP. Just like his drug addiction and criminal activities, such as drug manufacturing. SP is no treat, he is a seriously deranged person who has come to the attention of the DEA and the SS.
After all, with the credibility you have, I'm in real trouble. If you cannot come up with the answer to two of the easiest questions on earth, what kind of piss-poor intellect is at work here???
Yeah...I'm quakin....
By the way, I looked a the posts and did not see the answers:
1) what international law (the great oxymoron) was broken by the invasion of Iraq???
2) whare did I threaten Hillary with anything besides losing this election, which is beginning to look like I was right...?
Let me guess: a couple of loudmouth no-nothings shot their mouths off and have nothing to offer...
Did I get that right?
Waiting sweetheart...waiting...and waiting....
there will be a knock at your door in the middle of the night. Who will it be? The SS? The DEA? Or those nice young men in their clean white coats to take you away to your own, very private rubber room, accessorized with a Thorazine drip? Keep that tinfoil hat on, SP, the aliens can't read your thoughts that way.
'Let me guess: a couple of loudmouth no-nothings shot their mouths off and have nothing to offer...'
That must be SP4 and one of his imaginary friends.
waiting...
where did the lightweights go with all the accusations
You remember:
'Internatinal' law - I call that Bush Toilet Papaer
'SP's threats - I call that a prediction, not a threat...and I am right.
still waiting...
Patience, grasshopper. All good things come to those that wait.
and while you're at it study a dictionary, your spelling is horrendous.
'The threat wasn't on this thread. But it is out there for people who know'
So post a link.
'This is going to stick with SP. Just like his drug addiction and criminal activities, such as drug manufacturing.'
Or like you idiotically believing that the only person who has ever used the name SP4 on the internet is the one that you are stalking here you needy little stalker with no life what so ever. Or like you stalking noharness and posting what you thought was his address... only to have it turn out to be a concrete plant you creepy, pathetic, basement dwelling virgin.
'SP is no treat, he is a seriously deranged person who has come to the attention of the DEA and the SS.'
The SS? Die Schutzstaffel? You really are a mental case. You really, really are a screwed up loser.
SS is short fot Secret Service, the people who protect presidential candidates and other important peoiple. What's the matter, jerk-off, don't you know your own country? As for Noawareness, if you google his name in the Huston phone book you would see that he does have the same street address as and engineering firm, not a cement plant as you so erroneously post. By the way it was not me who posted it you cretin. And if I did, so fricking what. It is all information that is in the public domain, therefore it is distributable. As for 'stalking' SPfricking idiot, you have got to be a total damned hose-head. Spdrug addict is all over the place spouting his idiocy and there are a lot of people who call him out on it. If he sticks his racist head out of his hole, somebody is going to play whack-a-mole on his drug addled brain. Furthermore SPa-hole doesn't need your 'help' at all, so crawl back into your anal orifice and suckle off of your mommy's breast, infant.
invaded a sovereign nation with nothing but a pack of lies. He rallied the country to invade a nation with no wmd and had zero to do with 9-11. George Bush started an illegal war for his own agenda. Afghanistan was OK because those miserable SOBs would not hand over OBL. SP4 has done nothing in his life worth while except get stoned and live in his own little world! The war is wrong. If it were right, I'm sure SP4 would be over there fighting his little heart out. He would rather be safe and trade his safety for other people fighting and dying for his liberties and food stamps. Bush is a coward and sp4 is in bush's under-panties. Up your neo-con ass sp4.
'SS is short fot[sic] Secret Service, the people who protect presidential candidates and other important peoiple[sic]. What's the matter, jerk-off, don't you know your own country?'
So where is the threat? Moron. Let's see a link. By the way, the secret service does not use the acronym 'SS' idiot.
' As for Noawareness, if you google his name in the Huston phone book you would see that he does have the same street address as and engineering firm, not a cement plant as you so erroneously post.'
Creepy stalker alright. What's a matter? Did he make you feel inadequate as well? One would think that you would be used to that by now.
'By the way it was not me who posted it you cretin.'
One of your other personalities no doubt. You need to be medicated.
'And if I did, so fricking what. '
Well, it was a pathetic, petty, cowardly effort to silence someone who you couldn't get the better of in a legitimate argument. It demonstrated that you are a scumbag who doesn't have the intellectual capabilities to defend your 'ideas' so you are reduced to trying to get dirt on those who you disagree with instead of coming up with an intelligent counterargument. It makes you a stupid little back stabber.
That, the obvious sock puppets that you spawn, the bannings that you have had, the irrational nonsense that you post, the sad need for attention for attentions sake, the venom and jealousy all paint the picture of a real bitchy, petty idiot. Thats so fricking what.
' It is all information that is in the public domain, therefore it is distributable'
So what is your name and address, coward? 'As for 'stalking' SPfricking idiot, you have got to be a total damned hose-head.'
Everything he has posted is followed up with some stupid non-sequitur comment that never addresses what he has written but the fact that he wrote it. Look, idiot, if you want to genuinely get at him you will break his argument. But you can't do that...can you? We have established that already.
'Spdrug addict is all over the place spouting his idiocy and there are a lot of people who call him out on it. '
No, you are the only one with this fatal attraction thing going on. It is really creepy.
'If he sticks his racist head out of his hole, somebody is going to play whack-a-mole on his drug addled brain.'
So you are really showing him a thing or two by making a fool out of yourself.
'. Furthermore SPa-hole doesn't need your 'help' at all, '
Sure, he probably loves the idea that he has your undivided attention and that everything he posts will be greeted by inarticulate rage and frustration from his target audience of the retarded leftist attention whore. This wasn't about 'helping sp4'. This was simply pointing out that you are an idiot who is too stupid to realize that you legitimize what he says by making a fool out of yourself in your pathetic attempt at 'rebuttal'. Nope, your stupidity is helping make his points. Congratulations.
'so crawl back into your anal orifice and suckle off of your mommy's breast, infant. '
Once again...made a whole lot of sense...
' George Bush started an illegal war for his own agenda. '
WHO SAYS IT IS 'ILLEGAL'? ON WHAT GROUNDS IS IT 'ILLEGAL'? Once again, idiot: Congress voted for it = legal.
If this is what I've been waiting for, what a letdown! 'soverign nation'?
THIS was illegal??? How???? Who says, the tooth fairey????
THAT is not 'illegal'! Why didn't you just say so, I could have cleared that up for you a lot earlier. Gee, I hope THAT wasn't what you were standing on...?
I know, you're still a bitch...
Now, who was the other bitch with the lie that I threatened Hillary, with something beside losing, and THAT looks to be the case...?
Still waiting...
And The World's Most Authoritative Answer Is ... Among the world's foremost experts in the field of international law, the overwhelming jurisprudential consensus is that the Anglo-American invasion, conquest, and occupation of Iraq constitute three phases of one illegal war of aggression. [3]
Moreover, these experts in the international law of war deem both preventive wars and preemptive strikes to be euphemistic subcategories of outlawed wars of aggression.
And the experts' answer would hold true regardless of whether their governing legal authority was: (A) the UN Security Council Resolutions that were passed to implement the conflict-resolution provisions of the UN Charter; or (B) prior treaties and juridical holdings which have long since become general international law. [4]
' the world's foremost experts in the field of international law, the overwhelming jurisprudential consensus is that the Anglo-American invasion, conquest, and occupation of Iraq constitute three phases of one illegal war of aggression. '
Who are these 'world's foremost experts in the field of international law' and when did I vote for them? What ballot did they run on? When were they elected to the US congress?
'Moreover, these experts in the international law of war deem both preventive wars and preemptive strikes to be euphemistic subcategories of outlawed wars of aggression.'
Once again, who are these people? Are they even people? You see the US Constitution says that only congress can declare war and congress authorized it... so who are these 'experts' because someone should tell them that they are mistaken.
The UN? I guess that makes the genocides in Rwanda and the Sudan legal then because they have been aided by the UN. No one here elected the UN to run the USA by the way. Indeed, the USA created the UN. We should un-create it as well.
And I thought this was about the Bush wedding - how did it become the usual dominating SP4 comedy hour?
know who these people are because you've never researched international law, (your mistake). Because congress voted for it doesn't make it legal by the accord of international law shit for brains. It is only legal in your mind because SP4 WANTS it to be legal. Bush is wrong and you are wrong sp4. Somebody once wrote that you smoke a lot of weed and they kept insisting on it; that must be the reason for those enormous mood swings you have all the time.
Ah well, the war is illegal and Bush is an illegal president; I'm used to it and I'm happy Bush hasn't started throwing around anything that's...................''newklar'' yet, although he really wants to.
'know who these people are because you've never researched international law,'
How do you know that? Let's have a name. (I already know who authored the article but I want you to tell us who we should turn over our national sovereignty to.)
' Because congress voted for it doesn't make it legal by the accord of international law s**t for brains. '
What 'accord of international law'? It makes it legal by American law. Again, intervention in Rwanda or the Sudan genocides are ILLEGAL by the supposed 'law' of the UN. Which are we to obey? Our Constitution or a bunch of self serving parasites who park on the sidewalks in New York?
' It is only legal in your mind because SP4 WANTS it to be legal.
That is crazy. That just makes no sense what so ever.
'. Bush is wrong and you are wrong sp4.'
I am not sp4, moron.
'Ah well, the war is illegal and Bush is an illegal president; '
Because you say so? Whelp, you are an idiot. Once again fool: Congress voted for it = legal. It is as simple as that. Even you can understand that... right?
The US has become a rogue state. As such, it deserves whatever comes it's way. Just because Monkey-man Bush, or Congress says it's legal, doesn't necessarily make it so.
that SP4 is still waiting. Keep waiting, EssPee. Wait for the knock at the door in the middle of the night.
'by ignoring international law
The US has become a rogue state'
What international law? For the billionth time?
'As such, it deserves whatever comes it's way.'
Well, as an idiot you deserve your poverty and failure. Enjoy.
'Just because Monkey-man Bush, or Congress says it's legal, doesn't necessarily make it so.'
Well, yes: Yes it does.
Just because full on monkey-you says it isn't doesn't make it so.
What a complete moron you are. You've got to be an EssPee clone, a typical non-thinking, preprogrammed, inbred, braindead, pudknocking hillbilly.
So I guess tat means you can't come up with a reasoned counterargument...
Guess that means you are wrong.
Guess that means you have no class.
Guess that means you are an idiot.
See how it works? I won, you lost because you can't come up with anything other then that kind of stupidity.
:-D
Yes it is, isn't it? Speaking of which, how are you doing, idiot?
As for the rest of your post, keep guessing. One day you might come up with an answer. See how it really works, idiot?
'Yes it is, isn't it? Speaking of which, how are you doing, idiot?'
Another brilliant retort! Back to 'I'm rubber you're glue' I see! Such is the extent of your intellectual capabilities. No need to call you an idiot when you demonstrate it yourself so conclusively.
'As for the rest of your post, keep guessing. One day you might come up with an answer.'
Already there...
'See how it really works, idiot?'
Yes, I answer some of your posts by calling you an 'idiot' and with the phrase 'See how it really works' and you rub both IQ points together and regurgitate the same exact thing back to me. Well done, retard! You have now shown yourself to have the same mental capacity as a parrot! A few more bananas and your handlers might get you up to the same level as a rhesus monkey.
My god, and this was supposed to be comments on the Bush wedding! Unbelievable how this instigated a comedy routine, and what a shame - it looked like a nice affair.......LOL
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, and on this website, that's saying something!
...WHAT international law was broken? Where is the text of it? Who passed this law? What body? Who granted them this power? Which nation?
If I call myself a 'foremost expert' in America, that and a dollar won't buy coffee at Starbucks. Who was the lame tit who concocted this...Al Gore?
What moron would buy such a lame explanation, besides Tonny from the USSR?
Laws, in America, are codifed via text. They are voted on by our representatives and signed into law by the executive branch. They are subject to interpretation by our courts.
What law? Show us the text.
By the way, are not all wars, wars of aggression?
Still Waiting....
When you get tired of waiting and sucking on the bong, put down that comic book, go to a library and do your own research, you lazy troll.
'You have now shown yourself to have the same mental capacity as a parrot!'
That's no way to talk about yourself. But keep it up, child. Vent. Rant. Get it out of your system. But It would do you a lot more good if you went and saw a therapist. Puking your garbage out on the web, where everyone can see exactly what a fool you are, is no way to get better.
who unlocked the looney bin? They have all converged on M&C - major strokes waiting to happen in these old guys. Oh, by the way, there was a wedding in Crawford, Texas..........
...still waiting...nameless persons with useless comments making false accusations.
The Internet generation....all these tools and look what they do with them.
still waiting...
''...WHAT international law was broken? Where is the text of it? Who passed this law? What body? Who granted them this power? Which nation?''
chasing your tail
Your questions are those of a simpleton because you are trying to over simplify the issue; I really didn't think you were that shallow. You have a computer right in front of you. Like I said sp4, look it up.
'
Your questions are those of a simpleton because you are trying to over simplify the issue; I really didn't think you were that shallow. '
If they are so 'simple' and 'shallow' then a genius like you can answer them... right? Well the question has been posed to you a dozen times here and you have yet to give an answer.
'That's no way to talk about yourself.'
Yes, the well used rubber/glue defense. Your 3rd grade playground mentality on display again. Aren't you embarrassed at this point? Do you have the capacity to be embarrassed?
'But keep it up, child. Vent. Rant. Get it out of your system. But It would do you a lot more good if you went and saw a therapist. Puking your garbage out on the web, where everyone can see exactly what a fool you are, is no way to get better.'
That is what is called 'psychological projection' folks. This stalking jobless shut-in can't get the upper hand in an argument so she is reduced to lame playground insults, recycled rants and going online to find dirt on the people who have helped her to embarrass herself in an effort to shut them up.
With every post that toss out, full of crazy 'I know you are but what am I' infantile ranting where you can not find a reasoned counterargument, you just confirm your status as an obtuse nut case.
Have at it, lets hear your devastating response that is the exact same thing as all your other non responses. Dance monkey dance!
to have a pissing contest. There is no way you've posed any question to me a dozen times. You sound like a little kid begging; that breaks my heart.
Clues:
Below is the Congressional authorization for force that Bush used to launch the invasion of Iraq. However, if you read Section 3, paragraph B, Bush was required to prove to the Congress that Iraq was in violation of UN Resolutions by still being in possession of weapons of mass destruction, and secondly, that Iraq was behind 9-11. Both claims have since been disproved and discredited, and appear to be created by the Pentagon Office at the heart of the latest Israeli spy scandal.
(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION- In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon thereafter as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that--
(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and
(2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorist and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.
done something humane.
''For the first time, Bush revealed a personal way in which he has tried to acknowledge the sacrifice of soldiers and their families: He has given up golf''.
I see the EssPee clone is still trying to live up to his hero's reputation and is still spewing his ignorance and childishness all over the web. Not an entertaining chap at all. Bland, boring, boorish is more like it. So much for all men being created equal. You were short-changed in the brain department.
'You just want...to have a pissing contest. '
Well, if rubbing your nose in the fact that you just mindlessly parrot other peoples falsehoods without bothering to think about it for a moment is somehow a 'pissing contest' so be it. You have simply adopted someone else's catch phrase with out bothering to understand it. That make you a bandwagon hopping lemming idiot. (Obamas key constituency)
'Clues:'
How coy. So you don't have an argument, just 'clues' to what it might be?
'Below is the Congressional authorization for force '
That is the beginning and end of the legality of Iraq or anywhere else: Congress authorized it.
Here, the Constitution, the law:
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'The Congress shall have power...To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;'
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'However, if you read Section 3, paragraph B, Bush was required to prove to the Congress that Iraq was in violation of UN Resolutions by still being in possession of weapons of mass destruction,'
Gee, I read it several times... couldn't find the 'Bush was required to prove to the Congress' anything... part.... Guess you just made that up. Saddam WAS in violation of UN resolutions by the way. Nice try.
What it says is that: [the presidents] determination that... reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone.. will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or'(Notice that it is 'or' not 'and'.) was adequate in light of the evidence presented by the congress in the text of the resolution to declare war.
'and secondly, that Iraq was behind 9-11. '
Gee, I just read it several times... I looked through the whole thing as a matter of fact. it is here:
www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html
It doesn't say that the president had to 'prove' that or anything else to congress or that 'Iraq was behind 9-11' at all. Guess you are seeing what you want to see.
It said 'Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;'
Which happens to be true, al-Zarqawi was in Iraq.
It doesn't say the things you wish it said. Sorry, you are WRONG. It isn't even in dispute by the people who voted for it. Only in the Trotskyite echo chambers that you inhabit, where truth or facts don't matter.
From:
'With every post that toss out, full of crazy 'I know you are but what am I' infantile ranting where you can not find a reasoned counterargument, you just confirm your status as an obtuse nut case.
Have at it, lets hear your devastating response that is the exact same thing as all your other non responses. Dance monkey dance! '
To:
'Not an entertaining chap at all. Bland, boring, boorish is more like it'
Well done! A non rebuttal with a phony, vaguely 1950's British flair to it for extra nuttyness. You just can't help yourself, can you?
you are for the illegal war sp4. You missed your calling, you would be a great press secretary for your master in chief.
''It doesn't say that the president had to 'prove' that or anything else to congress or that 'Iraq was behind 9-11' at all.''
you're right sp4, it doesn't say that. It says;
''...make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that--etc.''
He had not determined either of the conditions put forth by the resolution; other than lying and guessing of course.
'you are for the illegal war sp4'
1) I am not sp4.
2) Congress voted for it = legal.
'He had not determined either of the conditions put forth by the resolution;'
Well, obviously he did because he gave congress his determination that Saddam still posed a threat.
So... You are WRONG.
'He had not determined either of the conditions put forth by the resolution;'
''Well, obviously he did because he gave congress his determination that Saddam still posed a threat.''
Obviously he didn't. Again, lies and guessing and everybody bought into it; sadly, including me and I regret it. All Bush had to offer were words of mass deception. Bush, to me is one big unnatural disaster and he's a sick sick man.
Good day.
'Obviously he didn't'
Oh well, I guess we are not at war in Iraq then you rocket scientist.
'Again, lies and guessing and everybody bought into it; sadly, including me and I regret it. '
Whelp, you would think you would have learned your lesson and stopped dealing in 'lies' then...
'Bush, to me is one big unnatural disaster and he's a sick sick man.'
So that makes the war 'illegal' somehow.... Nope, no it does not.
That this cretin: ':-D'
is nothing more than an EssPee clone. The same nonsensical drivel drools out of his mouth. He absolutely refuses to see the fallacy of his position. He absolutely refuses to see reality. All this nut bar does is attack people who have a valid point. He does not know the proper way to discuss a topice without diving back into the rabid attack mode so common to the republican'ts. Do not try to have an intelligent discussion with him, for he needs to get intelligent first. Until that happens, it is an exercise in futility, a waste of time. This cretin gets off on being an obtuse ass, just like EssPee.
This was all about my wedding you imbeciles. You all act like crack heads!
'This was all about my wedding you imbeciles. You all act like crack heads!'
Sorry Jen, look me up after the divorce. ;-D
' The same nonsensical drivel drools out of his mouth. He absolutely refuses to see the fallacy of his position. '
Maybe because you are too stupid to point out that 'fallacy'.
'He absolutely refuses to see reality.'
I posted the text of the resolution concerned and the passage of the Constitution. Where have I gone wrong? point it out. Oh that's right, you are too stupid to do so.
'All this nut bar does is attack people who have a valid point. '
If you had a valid point I wish you would make it. Where is this 'valid point' you wish to make? Anytime... You can't? What's the matter? Too stupid?
'. Do not try to have an intelligent discussion with him'
Why start now? You haven't yet. Idiot.
', for he needs to get intelligent first.'
Well, if you are so bright why are you incapable of proving me wrong? Guess that means you are stupid.
'Until that happens, it is an exercise in futility, a waste of time.'
Right then, get on with shutting up if you are too stupid to provide some kind of counterargument. See, everyone is happy then.
:-DMay 14th, 2008 - 23:26:03
'This was all about my wedding you imbeciles. You all act like crack heads!'
Sorry Jen, look me up after the divorce. ;-D
Like I said, nothing but crap dribbles from his mouth. The EssPee clone think's he's a commedian, too. What a fricking loser. Do the loser dance, moron. Dance, monkey. dance.
'What a fricking loser.'
Still not a rebuttal.... Surprise, surprise...
'Do the loser dance, moron. Dance, monkey. dance.'
Do the 'repeat everything the other guy says' post... How inventive and, as usual, how smart.
yup, it really must suck something fierce, being a web troll like yourself. Does your mommy know what you're doing in her basement? Did you even have a mommy, or did you slither out of EssPee's orifice? Most likely the latter. It's time to flush this thread.
'Sucks to be you, :-D
yup, it really must suck something fierce, being a web troll like yourself. '
Again with the 'Im rubber you are glue'... That never gets old for you does it? Well, it is yet another mark of a pure moron. But I have said that before and it hasn't seemed to dissuade you from mindlessly repeating everything back to me like you were a parrot.
Polly want a cracker?
'. Does your mommy know what you're doing in her basement? '
And I have thrown the fact that you are a wanker living in your mommy's basement in your face before and surprise, surprise... you repeat it right back.
' It's time to flush this thread.'
Guess you couldn't come up with an intelligent reply or a reasoned counterargument... again. Time to flush you.
:-D
Not that you ever put up anything to be reasoned with, loser. Just a lot of gurgling as you go down. Have a nice slide, EssPee clone.
And you have added what?
It has been spelled out to you in a way that is absolutely crystal clear to even the biggest idiot that every time you post without being able to come up with a reasoned counterargument or anything original you just reinforce the fact that you are a complete moron; yet you can't help yourself, you are just compelled to prove my point.
Go ahead: Do it again.
:-D
There he goes, again, talking about himself. :-D is such a clueless idiot.
So I post 'Dance monkey, dance!' and you concentrate real hard and post:
'Dance monkey, dance!'
LOL! You sure showed me, especially in light of the fact that I have been calling you an idiot for this and other threads for doing that. Remember this, 3 posts ago:
'Again with the 'Im rubber you are glue'... That never gets old for you does it? Well, it is yet another mark of a pure moron. But I have said that before and it hasn't seemed to dissuade you from mindlessly repeating everything back to me like you were a parrot.
Polly want a cracker? '
Well doe, you prove that you are a moron again, as I said you would in the post you replied to:
'It has been spelled out to you in a way that is absolutely crystal clear to even the biggest idiot that every time you post without being able to come up with a reasoned counterargument or anything original you just reinforce the fact that you are a complete moron; yet you can't help yourself, you are just compelled to prove my point.
Go ahead: Do it again.'
:-D
Waiting....
Honestly, by now the even stupidest person on the planet could have come up with a convincing lie....well, apparently not....
keep waiting.
I'd like to apoligize to everyone on this site. It has been pointed out to me that I have been a complete jackass. Looking over my posts, it has become apparent to me that I have been using the same stuff over and over, on different threads. I must appear to be an illiterate moron.
Sorry about that.
;-D
it makes for good comedy routine and a respite from old man SP4!
Sp4 wrote something and I wet the bed because I couldn't come up with an intelligent comeback.
me too and i almost dropped my welfare cheese. I am an entirely different person by the way, no sockpuppets here. I too am not bright enough to come up with something to contribute to the conversation.
I say, ruddy good show chaps, I am from merry 'old somewhere where people evidentially still speak like this and the fact that I think this way doesn't speak to the fact that I never get out of my mums basement to see other countries at all!
I am an entirely different person, chaps, not the same bloke who posts all this ruddy tosh and grot, what you need to take away from this presentation is that you yanks are not as smart as I am and I am not the same attention whore who pops up to write infantile things like: 'ess pee 4 is badness...'
Cheerio, I am off to not be posting here under some other sock puppet name because I am too stupid to actually have a counterargument and I think all of you are stupid enough to believe my lame garbage.
...yeah, I agree and I am not a sock puppet either....
I don't have anything smart to say so i am going to create sockpuppets and not say something smart over and over... but i am a different person then sp4's creepy stalker.
I say 'ol bean, someone who is not being a sock puppet but an impossibly broad caricature of some vaguely Anglo chap who doesn't use commonwealth spelling enables me to tell you 'yanks' that I am an entirely different person then the one who posted 2 minutes ago and I agree that being a: Bed wetting, Jenny Craig eating, cottage cheesed behind possessing, apartment that smells like cat pee living, 3rd grade dropout who can not come up with a rational rebuttal to anything that is said so I am reduced to seething and whining that it was said at all... Is a very good thing and I whole heartedly agree with such a sort because I am a different person then all you yanks out there.
Good Show, because I believe that there is still someone on this earth that talks like that because I am going to live my whole life within 50 miles of where I was born... and I saw an old rerun of a Monty Python show... and the voices in my head tell me it is so... and I haven't taken my meds...
I am off to clean a chimney now, because I am a different person then the other non-sockpuppets.
...in good company.
Still waiting...
Keep it up EssPee. Keep waiting. You're in good company with ;-D, a couple of jerk-off dickweeds.
'Keep it up EssPee. Keep waiting. '
Not a rebuttal now was that.
this was about my wedding!!!!!!!!!!!
before SP and the other republican dogs crashed your party?
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SP4: Well That's Good!May 9th, 2008 - 14:18:23
No press bias here!
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