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McCain's campaign attack on Obama comparing his popularity to Paris and Britney had to be composed by a school dropout - how juvenile can you get!
McCain's reputed temper will soon get the best of him.
What other explanation is there for people even considering an egomaniac windbag who decided he was ready to be president of the United States of America and take his place along with Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln after a grand total of 143 days in the senate?
The presidency isn't a beauty contest and the only thing Obama has done long enough to get an idea what he stands for is to go to Jeremiah Wrights 'damn America' church. You certainly can't go by his promises, because he breaks them.
And of course Obama didn't go to see our Soldiers and Marines, there were no cameras allowed in the hospital so why would he bother? He needs to be SEEN doing the right thing or else he might as well go to the gym, right?
McCain visits the troops, as a matter of fact he has 2 sons serving.
'McCain's campaign attack on Obama comparing his popularity to Paris and Britney had to be composed by a school dropout'
Right, it's an insult to Paris and Brittany who are actually doing things they are qualified to do unlike the obamamessiah.
What the media commmentators are saying is that the republicans are conducting a smear campaign,rather than focusing on their own program .That is frequentl demonstrated by some posters here too,as they smear Obama ,without finding even anything positive to mention on the program of the republican party .For them it is a campaign between two personalities ,one good,and one evil .They are not a bit interested in the different ideologies,only occupied with minor futilities like how much time Obama or McCain spend with wounded soldiers,etc,etc.Is it plain ignorance of the more important issues like the Iraqi war strategy,the sorry state of education and the economy and the models that need to be used tp improve on those ?I think so as never any measure is brought forward with enough clarity and vision to be discussed .We are to be believing that things are improving in Iraq ?Why so?I'v never read any article of any battle with a victorious outcome for anybody in Iraq during the last four yers .So I suppose this war is of a special nature,tha has to do with emphasis on other means than victory on the classical battlefield with gunshots and bullets .Yet very little is known about that ,nothing much mentionned in the media,only vague strategies like 'staying the course ' ,etc,etc.
And what about health care,medicare,school drop outs,gangs that have replaced legal authority in many neighbourhoods in the big cities.What about global warming ?Normally in an electoral process focus should on these issues.Yet from the republican side not much transpires in te debates.Focus is cast on the lack of experience of Obama from republican side .Ok then,now show your potential voters the experience of McCain on these issues,ghis scripts,speeches but most of all the concrete measures he will take to curb this problems .That of course means you will have to study these problems .I'll give you an example:saying climate change is a hoax is not good enough .You'll find against you the entire scientific community minus a few stray cats .Incidentally McCain does recognize the urgency of the issue .So that leaves his conservative electorate in the mist,I' say.
And incidentally combating Michael Moore's Sicko with the argument that he is fat and ugly does not show much much of intelligence .Too often this kind of smear is used and has led the rest of the world to believe education standards are in dire need of improvement in the USA,too many people are left out without the proper chances of enjoying higher education grades .It should never be a manner of poor versus rich to gain access to education.
Quote :Right, it's an insult to Paris and Brittany who are actually doing things they are qualified to do unlike the obamamessiah.Unquote Now that is exactly what I mean with a bad campaign strategy,it is smear,it brings in no positive arguments to vote for a republican,and no doubt it will be followed up with insults too.Where is the republican electoral program in all that ?
Today, Dr. Danny Jazarevic, who served as the Chief of Trauma, Critical Care and Vascular Surgery at Landstuhl, issued the following statement on Barack Obama's canceled visit to Ramstein and Landstuhl:
'Last week, Senator Obama skipped a visit with wounded U.S. troops at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany because the Pentagon would not allow campaign staff or media to accompany him into the hospital. I served as director of trauma surgery at that hospital for nearly four years and saw the effect that a visit from a celebrity like Senator Obama could have on morale. During that time, I do not recall a single member of Congress canceling a visit with the troops despite being just a few hours away, but Senator Obama seems to have been more concerned with how the visit would affect him than how it would affect the soldiers recovering from wounds received in the service of their country.'
Who is this guy?
Dr. Danny Jazarevic served as the Chief of Trauma, Critical Care and Vascular Surgery at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center. In 1984, Dr. Jazarevic joined the United States Army and later the Florida National Guard. He has since served in Honduras, Africa, Saudi Arabia, Bosnia, and Iraq. From December 2002 through January 2006, Dr. Jazarevic was assigned to the U.S. Army Hospital in Landstuhl, Germany, where he served as Chief of Trauma, Critical Care and Vascular Surgery. During this period, he deployed to Iraq numerous times, including with the 101st Airborne Division Forward Surgical Team and as Director of Operations for the 44th U.S. Army Medical Command. He is currently the Chief Trauma Surgeon at a civilian medical center in Florida, and also serves as a full Colonel in the U.S. Army Reserve. Dr. Jazarevic has been awarded the Bronze Star Medal.
IN OTHER WORDS Dr. Danny Jazarevic IS MORE QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT THEN OBAMA.
'They are not a bit interested in the different ideologies,only occupied with minor futilities like how much time Obama or McCain spend with wounded soldiers,etc,etc.'
Oh sure tonny, you euro-tic. Most of us who have seen the EU don't want the USA to degenerate in to the same socialist dystopia that you have surrendered your freedom to. That's why many of us are committed to keeping Obama out.
Anything positive to propese for your republican canpaign perhaps ?Any program ?I think not,the usual insults and ranting as predicted by me .Please guys,for your own sake and your country,educate yourself .What makes you even think we dont enjoy freedom here in Europe.Clarify your remarks please.
And what is a euro-tic ?
And what is a euro-tic?
Probably a European with a neurosis?
What, no souvenirs from that celebrity trip?
Why should Obama be the quiet one? It's unfair to say that they both are running a bad campaign. We have all seen how McCain numerously tarnished Obama's reputation and this is affecting his campaign. so why shouldn't he answer back? His answers are even more diplomatic than McCains ads.
McCain has put Obama in a 'damn if you do and damn if you don't' position.
He argues that Obama has no capabiltiy on the world stage and issues of defending America.
Obama has repeatedly showed his capabilities : using diplomacy with Iran --which is adopted by the White House, Put more efforts on Afghanistan - which is true due to increased death of Americans soldiers, return American soldiers from Iraq--endorsed by Iraqi leader and British -Gordon Brown,creating better relationship with America and the world --which is hailed by almost every country he visited.
So why this mockery. Does McCain's love for America stops short of its popularity? MccCain claims to love America but mocks the positive reversal of it's popularity on the world stage! Who is the inexperienced candidate now?
McCain fought in Viet Nam. He's a respected and honorable war hero. True, true.
However his herosm is of the past not the present. He was a POW and didn't win in Viet nam . So does this mean that he wants to make American soldiers POWs as well?
The world is watching. Americans are not blind. McCain is a jealous little boy who throw tatrums when he is not being noticed. Sorry, Americans are gradually growing weary of his tatrums which will soon be meaningless. soon all will recognize the positive credentials of Obama's leadership abilities and recognize his uplifting accomplishments during his travel and those at home.
In the mean time, McCain should continue his smears because the more he puts out, the lower he will sink.
'Anything positive to propese[sic] for your republican canpaign[sic] perhaps'
Indeed, McCain is going to balance the budget, reduce our national debt, secure victory in the war on islamist terrorism in the middle east and Afghanistan and solidify our manufacturing base. If you want an overview of his campaign platform you can find it here:
www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues
Not that any of it is your business because you can't vote here, thank God.
'I think not,'
No you don't think. you just regurgitate your arrested adolescent troytskyite propaganda. Michael Moore? You just love to be lied to as long as you are hearing what you want to hear.
'the usual insults and ranting as predicted by me .
Fix your own lousy backwater of a country before you presume to lecture others on how to fix theirs. Your government dissolves like sugar in coffee on a yearly basis and you can't even figure out what language to speak. You are being inundated by immigrants who hate your guts (something we agree on) you never DO anything. Year after inglorious, boring, inconsequential year, you look to us because you are so frigging dull. You are a boring, grim, officious, snotty little people who are obsessed with chocolate. If you want to fix a country start with your own you pompous half-monkeys.
'Please guys,for your own sake and your country,educate yourself'
You little snot, If your misspelled, stream of conscious, mentally masturbatory rants here are indicative of your 'education' it's no wonder that you never DO anything. Indeed, it's a good thing.
'What makes you even think we dont enjoy freedom here in Europe.'
Because you are so willing to turn it over to the EU/UN. Seeing as your freedom has been bought and paid for by he blood of others who you presume to sit and pass judgment on it's no wonder you take it for granted.
'Clarify your remarks please.'
We do not want to be like you. I have seen your dull little country and if I wanted to live in it I would have moved to it and started in complaining about everyone else to make myself feel better as well. You do not know the first thing about us, yet you presume to lecture. That is the mark of a true idiot.
'And what is a euro-tic ?'
It is someone who arrogantly thinks that they can get a free ride off the safety and security that NATO has bought you and run your ignorant mouth about a country and a people that you have absolutely no understanding of.
In short, you are like a tic riding on a dogs ass, getting fat with no effort and you have the audacity to think you are entitled to demand a say in where the dog sits. You don't. We don't owe you an explanation and you are not entitled to a vote in our elections. Yap away tonny, you are still irrelevant.
'Obama has repeatedly showed his capabilities : using diplomacy with Iran --which is adopted by the White House'
Wrong. Obama has said he would meet with any dictator in a country of their choosing. That is just stupid and it has NOT been adopted by the white house. Obama also changes his position hourly so the only 'capability' he has displayed is that he is capable of telling people what they want to hear.
'Does McCain's love for America stops short of its popularity?'
Some of us aren't so needy and insecure as to care what people who are going to resent us regardless of what we do think. Obama resents the USA. 'Damn America' Bitter gun clingers' 'A mean country' 'I'm a citizen of the world' Etc.... McCain loves this country and has proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
'However his herosm[sic] is of the past not the present.'
It is something compared to absolutely nothing.
'So does this mean that he wants to make American soldiers POWs as well?'
Stupid.
'The world is watching. '
So? The 'world' doesn't get a vote. Only Americans do. You don't speak for the world by the way.
'McCain is a jealous little boy who throw tatrums when he is not being noticed.'
Not true. Obanma is an inexperienced liar who isn't qualified for the job he wants.
'Americans are gradually growing weary of his tatrums '
He is not having tantrums and you don't speak for 'Americans' any more then you do for 'the world'.
'all will recognize the positive credentials of Obama's leadership abilities '
All 143 days in the senate... Nope, not enough. Especially compared with 20 years in the 'damn America' church.
'and recognize his uplifting accomplishments during his travel'
He took a trip, big deal. No one is impressed with his commander and chief summer school.
'In the mean time, McCain should continue his smears'
It isn't a smear if it is true, and Obama has been dropping in the polls.
To some posters,thank you for proving my point ,which is that some of you have nothing but ranting and insults as combat method.How can I ever thank you enough for demonstrating my points .
As for as McCain's program of balancing the budget is concerned,that would be nic:how will he do that,like Bush ?Just a question that needs an urgent answer indeed.only one of many ....I distinctly do remember a balanced budget during the Clinton presidency.You were probably busy posting about Monica Lewinsky then,right ?
I'd like to thank those that fought during WW2 again here in urope .I just didnt think it was only conservative republican rednecks that helped us .,am I wrong .This debt seems only to be reclaimed by them ,not by anybody else .Why ?Most probably because they find nothing more sensible to use .As for the arguments that Michael Moore is a liar...any supportive evidence ?He MUST have been giving you enough chance to demonstrate that whith such a vast array of examples of bad health care .So do your best.Your claims will only gain you points if accompanied with valid arguments .Michael Moore being a liar MUST be proven,right ?
Tonny, if the healthcare in the US is so hideous,why do Canadians pour across the border to avail themselves of it?
If johny boy is so concerned about US manufacturing perhaps he can coax all his lobbyist pals to pee on GM and Ford as they go down in flames.
Then they can take big dumps on the ashes to cover up the remaining parts of those companies not shipped overseas.
Barack Obama as next President of The United States of America
The die is cast and for reasons that only a privileged few know, you Sir, will be the next President of the United States of America. Your next 4 years will be a turning point in US history and planet earth. CHANGE, your advisors and high stake investors offer the nation will undoubtedly be the same rhetoric and empty promises that make up a political campaign, that campaigns for appointment for any public office in America.
The White House will be the Black House to some, the Aryan Brothers of America will not be so happy, but yet will blame you and your staff if you fail, which will reinforce their belief that the Aryan Nation is the true leader for America. The religious zealots will be busy bees making nests to survive the onslaught of lies, corruption and deceit. Business enterprises and other competing nations will capitalize off of your inexperience in the art of corruption and murder. The organized crime organizations from different nations including our own will benefit from the lack of control over national crime.
Military governments including our own will test your tolerance to pain and deception and trick you into needless and profitable domestic and international conflict. You will no doubt attempt to colorize your staff to soften the race conflict once in office.
As President you will be President. Nations will respect you only for your title of office. Americans will soon see after your appointment as President that your intentions were manipulated by those that make the rules. You will fill the spot in history as planned, and nothing more.
You will never while in office be able to pull the troops from conflict in any land we are engaged in. As a matter of fact we as a nation will be engaged in a new conflict of war, which will galvanize Americans to seek a different form of government and a different and honest Congress.
You will attempt to shore up Americas problems with false promise and lies, because you cannot directly affect the CHANGE you promised.
Your frustration will be your downfall while in office, and your co-dependence on those that you trust will also add to your demise.
Our Armed Forces in rank will respect you as good soldiers they are, but those under them will not, and for good reasons, that only a good soldier knows.
America will not be America until its government respects the People, and tells the truth. America is a Republic, not a Democracy or Fascist Government or is it?
Until you can walk thru the streets and neighborhoods of America unaided by Secret Service or any other law enforcement agency you will not be respected by the many, only by the fearful and selfish few. Americans can protect their leaders if they are honest and respectful of the people they were elected to serve. Our Government has forsaken us for many hundreds of years, and now we will wait until your 4 years are finished for us to come to fruition.
CHANGE FOR AMERICA FOR AMERICANS!
The American Republic
A Sovereign Republic
McCain's nickname in high school was McNasty, so we better get used to his campaign nonsense. On Capitol Hill staffers ranked him as the senator with the 'second-hottest temper'! The first was none other than Ted Stevens of Alaska, who is getting his share of publicity right now. McCain has a reputation for degrading and demeaning those who work under him - 'If you don't want bullies in schools and work places, don't vote to put one in the White House' was quoted recently by a New York University professor.
You stupid witch. Canadians DO NOT pour accross the border to seek medical care in your sh*t pit of a country. Yes some do, I will agree. The wealthy can afford to jump the border and avoid the inconvenience of having to wait for their cosmetic surgery. Why do a lot of americans come to Canada or use the internet pharmacies to purchase their medications? Cost is the only reason. The drugs are the same as in the US, only 1/4 to half the price. Most Canadians, like most americans cannot afford the outragious cost of medical care in the US. My father in law had a heart attack while touring your country. 10 days in hospital cost over 350,000 dollars. He's still paying it off 8 years later. In Canada, it would have been 10 days in hospital and go home without fear of going into bankruptcy. Now, to get back to the topic at hand, the GOP (Graft Obfuscation Perfidy) party has no platform, no plan and no leader. The GOP is a failed party. It is time for change in your country. Time to heal from the wounds created by the neocons. By the way, before any neocon Neanderthal attacks me for sticking my nose in your federal election, let me say this: We have a group of neocons up here. They are called Conservatives. Responsible people are doing their best to make sure that they don't screw up our country like they screwed up yours.
I had a Canadian friend who was taken seriously ill resulting in surgery and weeks in hospital in the U.S., then flown back home in a medical plane with a private nurse to the tune of over a million dollars - everything paid by the Canadian health system!
Your friend must have purchased extra travel insurance. The Canadian health care system would not otherwise have done such a thing as you have stated. My father in law was a healthy, fit man, with no risky behaviors. It was just the luck of the draw that got him. Anyone who travels to a foreign country should purchase extra insurance.
He probably did have extra insurance, but, regardless, it and the health plan in Canada paid EVERY penney. And I'm sure enough has been pointed out on this subject! McCain is the topic and his stupidity in endorsing such lame campaign messages. He better stick to telling what he can do, not knocking the other guy with silly crap - it's making him the butt of constant jokes........
'Hanoi John' is falling behind each day ! Maybe he should start answering many questions about his 'Songbird Days Hanoi'..............
And so it is...................
I totally agree with you. People do throw in stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic. This is called obfuscation. Those people in the GOP(Graft Obfuscation Perfidy)party are masters at it. This tactic can also be called deflection. Avoid the REAL topic at all costs, make the other guy look bad and our guy the shining hero in white, even though he is nothing but a puppet.
',which is that some of you have nothing but ranting and insults as combat method.'
Just because you are too obtuse to see the point doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
'As for as McCain's program of balancing the budget is concerned,that would be nic:how will he do that,like Bush '
McCain has vowed to veto congresses waste and he has never taken an earmark. Obama wants to create gigantic entitlement programs that will push our debt level over our GDP and bankrupt the country by the end of his first term. Wrecking our currency and causing a depression.
'.I distinctly do remember a balanced budget during the Clinton presidency'
Clinton is NOT obama and budgets come from congress which was in republican hands, you idiot.
'I'd like to thank those that fought during WW2 again here in urope'
You can thank them by pulling your own weight in the world instead of foisting your responsibilities off on the Americans and whining that they are not handling them the way you want.
'I just didnt think it was only conservative republican rednecks that helped us'
What does it matter? Your parents were busy collaborating with whatever enemy was worse at any given moment. The Nazis, the Soviets and now we have you, a craven appeaser from a long line of cowards.
'This debt seems only to be reclaimed by them ,not by anybody else '
The missed point was that you are in no position to lecture anyone about anything.
'As for the arguments that Michael Moore is a liar...any supportive evidence '
There are entire websites that are dedicated to pointing out his lies, go educate yourself. Better that you troll over there. Google search for Moore lies: Results 1 - 10 of about 309,000 for moore lies. (0.19 seconds)
'So do your best.'
I do not owe you an explanation for anything. Explain to us why you are obsessed with the USA while your own country is such a political mess. Is it because you too recognize that on some level that the society that you want us to emulate is inherently lacking in comparison?
'If johny boy is so concerned about US manufacturing....'
Or we could get Obama to tax them out of the USA and help build up the 3rd world at our expense... again.
'Bivens
McCain's nickname in high school was McNasty, '
And yours was pizza face... Is there a point?
'A@ Kathy
You stupid witch. Canadians DO NOT pour accross the border to seek medical care in your sh*t pit of a country.'
I have a house in Canada and Canadian relatives and YES, they do come to the United States to get health care. There are waiting lists, sometimes as long as 10 months for MRI's and chemotherapy. Americans are not told that they have cancer in one breath and in the next that they have to wait 10 months for treatment. Usually from a foreign doctor who doesn't speak their language who they were not allowed to chose.
' Why do a lot of americans[sic] come to Canada or use the internet pharmacies to purchase their medications'
Because for all intents Canada doesn't have a military, they don't need one because of their proximity to the USA. They are able to spend the money that would otherwise be used pulling their own weight on our medication which they can resell to Americans at a profit.
'Most Canadians, like most americans[sic] cannot afford the outragious[sic] cost of medical care in the US.'
Most Canadians have confused anti-Americanism with Canadian patriotism. Your pledge of allegiance has become the Molson beer commercial rant. No one resents the worlds super power like the other country that lives next door. You are a perfect microcosm, you are our jealous stalker who has nothing to do but vent your petty resentments.
'10 days in hospital cost over 350,000 dollars.'
He would have just died after being put on a bureaucratic waiting list up there... And what are the odds that anyone got paid a dime of that entirely made up figure? Did he get a heart transplant? That is the only way it would have gone that high.
' He's still paying it off 8 years later. '
Bull, you are a proven liar here.
'In Canada, it would have been 10 days in hospital'
More like a day in the morgue and an eternity in the ground.
' Now, to get back to the topic at hand, the GOP (Graft Obfuscation Perfidy) party has no platform, '
You just want obama because you want to see the USA weekend inn the hope ofg us becoming more like you. No thanks.
' We have a group of neocons up here. They are called Conservatives.'
Go pester them and mind your own business you creepy stalker.
'I had a Canadian friend who was taken seriously ill resulting in surgery and weeks in hospital in the U.S., then flown back home in a medical plane with a private nurse to the tune of over a million dollars - everything paid by the Canadian health system!'
No wonder they can't afford to buy MRI machines with such stupid waste. Tell your sickly, bad tipping, snooty, delusional, alcoholic, backstabbing Canadian friends to stay up in our attic instead of coming down here to get their lives saved.
He didn't come to the U.S. for treatment, fool, he was already there and had no choice in his condition, to be moved right away. Your low class remarks and hate don't do anyone any good including yourself!
Read the entire comment if you are able. It was also reported by the same professor that 'the most important measure of a human being is the way he or she treats other people, especially those under his or her power. By many accounts, mcCain degrades and demeans them. There's no excuse for it'. And by all accounts, you would probably fall into that catagory!
'He didn't come to the U.S. for treatment,'
Escaping the boredom?
'he was already there and had no choice in his condition,'
Stuffing his face with 'Tim Horten's' and 'Kraft dinner' kind of whittled away his choices, EH?
'Your low class remarks and hate '
I don't hate anyone. As I said, I have a house in Canada. I have Canadian relatives. I am actually named after someone who was killed at Vimy ridge. But I also know and I have seen all my life the jealous petty resentments that you people carry and the vitriol that you you reserve for your neighbors. You are particularly petty and resentful, add that to being an idiot.
Do us a favour...eeeh favor and grow up. Tearing down the USA doesn't do anything to build up Canada. Indeed, since Obama wants to trash Nafta; that which enables you to sit on the 'chesterfield' all day and post your complete garbage without fear of being forced to actually produce anything... If I were you I would be singing the praises of McCain who will keep the international agreements that enable you to be such a worthless parasite intact.
'It was also reported by the same professor that 'the most important measure of a human being is the way he or she treats other people, especially those under his or her power. '
I know people who have worked with him. He has been a gentleman to them and indeed very generous. The most important measure of a human being is the way he or she treats other people?
The McCains have adopted a Bangladeshi child who needed many operations that she wouldn't have gotten in her own country and have raised her to be a straight, decent and loved young lady. They have also covered the hospital bills of a friend of theirs who had done the same thing with the child that they adopted. These things don't get reported like they would with Barack Obama because they are personal and not done to curry favor with the media. McCain has routinely visited our wounded, you don't hear about it because he isn't doing it to get attention. He is doing it because it is right.
Obama demonstrated that if there aren't cameras around to cover the visit to our wounded soldiers then he sees no point in doing it. He doesn't care about them, just the attention it will bring him. He is in it for himself alone.
that same lies, distortions, misinformation and outright bullshit that the GOP (Graft Obfuscation Perfidy) uses in it's election campaigns is used to slam the Canadian health care system. Well, my dear Neocon Pig Porkers, you are totally welcome to your delusions. You impress no one with your ignorance. You convince no one with your stupidity.
'uses in it's election campaigns is used to slam the Canadian health care system. '
We just don't care what goes on up there... You have no choice but to care what goes on down here... and that's what drives you nuts. :-P
'you are totally welcome to your delusions.'
You are totally welcome to fix your own society, including your collapsing socialized medicine. Thankfully the adults who live up there are smart enough to ignore the children occasionally and elect someone like Stephen Harper.
I love how in McCains add he says 'Obama took time to shoot hoops in the gym rather than visit wounded troups', and the footage is of him shooting hoops, WITH THE TROOPS!!!!!!!!!!!
He was supposed to go to a hospital Dan. When he was told that no cameras were allowed he blew it off to go work out alone.
Nooooo... he wanted to take his military advisor. that's it, and they told him no campaign staff, so he didn't go to THAT visit with the troops, he's been to several others.
Oh, and one more thing, in the footage that McCain's own comercial shows, there are troops IN THE BACKGROUND!!! so much for going to the Gym alone.
mccain is bush's right nut
'Nooooo... he wanted to take his military advisor.'
So he needs someone to hold his hand?
'so he didn't go to THAT visit with the troops,'
It was because here weren't going to be cameras there.
'he's been to several others.'
Not before he started running for president.
'there are troops IN THE BACKGROUND!!!'
That DOESN'T MEAN HE DIDN'T BLOW OFF OTHER TROOPS.
'so much for going to the Gym alone.'
He DID, it was a different event.
Good lord - some of the posters are so screwed up they don't know what or who they are referring to in their rants. I was the one who mentioned about my Canadian friend who needed medical care while on a trip to the U.S., but I'm not Canadian. The nasty retort to that innocent comment was sickening. I have a lot of Canadian friends and have traveled from one end of Canada to the other, and the ones I know and have met have a high regard for the U.S. As far as Obama and McCain - who really knows the true story about what goes on unless you were there personally. They are probably both decent people who don't deserve some of the low-class crap that some are spewing out.
Well reasoned. Well stated, Sir. It is a pleasure to see some intelligence demonstrated on this site.
' I was the one who mentioned about my Canadian friend who needed medical care while on a trip to the U.S., but I'm not Canadian.'
That's a great story. Nothing tedious about you.
' The nasty retort to that innocent comment was sickening. '
Were you actually sickened? Did it give you cancer or something? If so, don't go to Canada because they will put you on a long waiting list for treatment.
'I have a lot of Canadian friends '
They were all talking about you the other day in the Canada club... 'Friends' is a bit of an overstatement.
'who really knows the true story about what goes on unless you were there personally.'
So why bother posting at all?
TO:????
Well reasoned. Well stated, Sir. It is a pleasure to see some intelligence demonstrated on this site.
I love it when sock puppets converse with each other.
'I love it when sock puppets converse with each other.'
Another neocon stick his head out his arse. Do something useful for your country, moron. Enlist. Get posted to Afghanistan. Be a hero, come home in a body bag.
And just what the he** were you getting at?? You don't make sense whatsoever!
all he has done lately is knock Obama in his talks - sounds like he's starting to get desperate and forgot what he even stands for - senility anyone?
Senile? you should hear obama when he is not reading off a teleprompter or David Axlerod isn't telling him what to say, more like retarded.
This is what the head surgeon said about Obama not visiting the troops:
'Last week, Senator Obama skipped a visit with wounded U.S. troops at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany because the Pentagon would not allow campaign staff or media to accompany him into the hospital. I served as director of trauma surgery at that hospital for nearly four years and saw the effect that a visit from a celebrity like Senator Obama could have on morale. During that time, I do not recall a single member of Congress canceling a visit with the troops despite being just a few hours away, but Senator Obama seems to have been more concerned with how the visit would affect him than how it would affect the soldiers recovering from wounds received in the service of their country.' Dr. Danny Jazarevic
' Enlist. '
I did enlist, I one of the people who helped secure your freedom so you could sit home in your mothers basement and eat, eat, eat...
'all he has done lately is knock Obama in his talks '
And he is now statistically even with someone who has paid about 60 million more dollars then he has to win the presidency. Not bad for an old fellow, eh?
ObamaRather than two people with different policy positions vying for the President's job, we have one man who understands he's a mere mortal like the rest of us, and one man, who seems to think he is a god.
And y'all know what I'm talkin' about here.
Many of Barack's followers manifest troubling signs of regarding him as at least a demigod. Even while refraining from saying outright that they think he's a god, their belief comes through in the strange messianic iconography of their Obama-glorifying posters, videos and music. Belief in the godlike nature of Barack's powers comes through in their faith in the vast promises he or his surrogates make about the change that's going to come about, not if, but when he becomes president, not just of our Country, but the whole darned world, oceans and all. Or so he seems to think.
The seas will recede. The planet will heal. Everyone will love America again. The sick will all be cured by socialized medicine. The poor will cease to exist. The rich will give all their money to Africa. The government will become efficient. Sin won't happen. The yellow brick road will lead to the White House, not a fantasy land. And the Emperor's clothes will suddenly materialize so that the whole world will actually see something there.
The bottom line here is that Barack Obama does not seem to be running against John McCain. He seems to think he's too big for that. As he told a roomful of Congressional Democrats this week, behind closed doors, he is no longer a mere man, he's 'become a symbol of the possibility of America.' Considering the scope of the promises he is making and the hope he is offering not only America, but the rest of the world to boot, Barack Obama seems to be running against a far higher power than himself.
Barack Obama actually appears to be running against God. By claiming that he can do things only God can do, like heal 'broken souls' and fill up 'holes' in people's hearts, make all 'divisions' go away and disperse with all inconvenient 'distractions,' Barack Obama claims power that no mortal man, and certainly no mere president has ever had, or ever will have, no matter how much money he has to spend or how brilliant or how able he may be.
Most rational human beings know this without thinking hard.
That's why this isn't an ordinary election, and why it is becoming more absurd by the hour.
But this is a terrific opportunity for all of us mortal Americans who still love this Country and happen to think that our Founders were onto something quite exceptional in the history of human civilization. This election will not pit Democrats against Republicans, but those who love America against those who just love Barack and think he is the one they've been waiting for to finally close the deal and secure their love for an America perfected by the politics of Barack Obama.
Empty Resume, Empty Promises
Obama has arisen from nothingness, from one accomplishment-free political gig to another, propped up by leftists adulators and sycophants, to offer a perfect portrait of socialism's eternal snare. Forget God; put your hope in mankind. Human arrogance and narcissistic pride. From the fall in the Garden to the present, from generation to generation, Satan's delusion holds sway with many.
Barack Obama is walking, talking, breathing narcissism. The iconography of his campaign is nothing, if not the glorification of Obama, a solitary, quite mortal man. They must glorify Obama's image because, in reality, he has no accomplishments that bear mention.
Obama struts his nothingness with grace; even his detractors admit that.
What could more openly and more amply demonstrate the absolute emptiness of socialism's promise than the perfectly empty resume of its newest hero?
What could possibly more adequately prove the personalized utopianism of his followers than that they believe in a man who has borne no fruitful action?
Barack Obama offers 'collective salvation' in the form of socialist government interventions in every sphere of life, from starting-at-birth state education, to socialized, universal health care, to a tripling of the already failing AmeriCorps. This socialist answer to all that ails mankind isn't anything new. It's old, tried, and just as untrue now as in its beginning.
Beware the man who promises what man simply lacks the power to bestow.
'The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule it.'
-- H. L. Mencken
Abridged
www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/why_im_thanking_god_for_obama.html
Arguments are a necessity if you want to score .As health care has been mentionned by a few here and the USA compared to Canada,I'll gladly jump in that topic .It is important and I expect that every civilized human being expects other humans to have full access to proper medical treatment ,regardless of financial assets .That is my own prerequisite for a decent conversation about health care .If you disagree with this,no use arguing with me here ,we're not in the same league .For as much as I remember Canada does not have one single health sustem .Having been in ubec for a few months ,they told me that their system is more comparable to the european system (which doesn't really exist either as europe is composed of multiple countreis rather than one single one ).
In most european countries we don't have long waiting lists at all .If you have a serious problem you'll be laying on the operation table withing very short time,possibly within a few days if the problem is urgent.or things like a burst appendice,you'll be operated within one hour ,as it should .Nobody here complains of waiting lists in my country,there are none .you dont believe me?Fine just google the words american expats,belgium and whatever else you want about health care,even waiting lists id you want.You'll discover that the things that are said about universal health care by your private inurnce lobbies are all untue .You ought to be embarassed at the lies they tell you.Why should universal health care be more time consuming than the extremely burocratic system the USA offers .Here you go see a doctor,he makes a diagnostic with the help of the exact same tools and gizmos you have and then proposes the treatment .There is nobody looking over his shoulder to see if the treatment is covered by your insurance at all,so ...no burocracy at all .On top of that our system is cheaper ,as your own statistics point out.Your system,privatized and cut to the needs and greed of your insurance companies is the most expensive system in the world .If you believe your system is better still,fine,I'll take your word for it,providing you have something better to offer than the argument that there are hundeds of websites staing Michael Moore is a liar .That king o silly argument must have been brought in by a child .Need I say I can pove on similar logics that McCain is a senile old fool?I could tell you that thousands of websites point to that .I'm sorry but that kind of arguments is for children and simpletons to be used .To those that have no better arguments;get an education.To the others that think your health system is better,fine then,show me your cards ...
Who gives a rat's a** whose health system is better than someone else's.
McCain was at the center of this article. Everyone goes off on a rant forgetting what they started out with. McCain is a hot head, and when it comes to town meetings, he will boil over - wait and see.
'I one of the people who helped secure your freedom'
Blow it out your rear end, mofo.
First off, turd breath, you did not secure my freedom. I have been free all my life. I did enlist. I volunteered, I was not drafted. Ever hear of a place called Nam, A-hole? Two tours. And I was no REMF.(rear echelon mother f****er.)
Secondly, learn the language: 'I one of the people...' You illiterate moron.
Obama happens to be the frontrunner who's black and the dem libnazi machine decides to warm the white voter with slavery reparations in the middle of the campaign. grrrrrrreat move!
Who invented this...Karl Rove!?
Obama suddenly mouths 'compromise' on offshore drilling, knowing the same dildo voter who thinks Obama is an Irish name will believe him!
I'm actually enthralled to see how far Obama can go with his propaganda, almost like some kind of experiment. His libnazi drive-by media has thrown nothing but softballs, He's avoiided most of the pressing issues, the public letting him, and he's made good moves, exploiting his advantages.
McCain is trying to run his campaign, the mistake being he's trying to appeak to his senate constituancy instead of the American public. Hopefully this will change, but I'm not optimistic.
McCain is apologizing for voting against MLK Day - said he was wrong.
'McCain is a hot head, and when it comes to town meetings, he will boil over - wait and see.'
The ones that Obama chickened out on? Why would he boil over if Obama was too much of a coward to show up because he is afraid to speak off a teleprompter?
'I have been free all my life.'
Thanks to the efforts of your southern neighbor.
'I did enlist. I volunteered, I was not drafted. Ever hear of a place called Nam, '
Yeah, I heard of Nam, LOL! you are such a liar. Canada didn't send troops to Vietnam. Simply pathetic.
'Two tours.'
Were you a VC? LOL...
Barack Obama kinda-sorta admits that his “I don’t look like those other presidents” line just might be referring to his race.
“I don’t think it’s accurate to say that my comments have nothing to do with race,” Obama said. “Here’s what I was saying and I think this should be undisputed: That I don’t come out of central casting, when it comes to presidential races. For a whole range of reasons. I’m young, I’m new to the national scene, my name is Barack Obama, I am African American, I was born in Hawaii, I spent time in Indonesia. I do not have the typical biography of a presidential candidate.”
Obama should have a word with his staff, then, so they don’t continue to reflexively deny things that are obvious to anyone with more than two brain cells.
An Obama spokesman denied that the line about “dollar bills” was related to the Democrat’s race...
What nitpicking! And he's absolutely correct in his explanation. McGrumpy is grasping at straws. He starts every sentence with a remark against Obama. It's getting old - he needs to spend more time talking about what he's going to do, not about Obama. That's a major turnoff to younger people.
Imagine being able to tell your wife on Wednesday that you would love to go to the opera with her on Saturday and then being able to change your mind and all she says is 'That's fine dear, anything you say.'
Or perhaps you could envision telling your 15 year old teenage daughter on Thursday that of course she can go to that unchaperoned party on Saturday night at the frat house only to put your foot down at Saturday and have your kid tell you 'You're absolutely right, dad. You're the greatest.'
Life would be sweet, yes?
Well this is the feeling I'm getting watching the press as Obama does a back somersault, triple flip with 1 and 1/2 twists on the issue of offshore drilling:
U.S. Sen. Barack Obama said today he would be willing to open Florida's coast for more oil drilling if it meant winning approval for broad energy changes.
'My interest is in making sure we've got the kind of comprehensive energy policy that can bring down gas prices,' Obama said in an interview with The Palm Beach Post.
'If, in order to get that passed, we have to compromise in terms of a careful, well thought-out drilling strategy that was carefully circumscribed to avoid significant environmental damage - I don't want to be so rigid that we can't get something done,' Obama said.
But wait just one minute. Hold the phone. Just a few months ago, you were singing a different tune, Mr. Messiah:
'Obama has opposed exposing more coastline to drilling, saying that oil companies have not fully explored the areas open to drilling now and insisting that it would have little immediate impact on prices at the pump.'
So what happened to change The One's mind? It seems that John McCain is slaughtering Obama and the Democrats on this issue in the polls. So Obama, fully aware that the press will never call him out on his shameless, pandering flip flop, suddenly jumps on the drilling bandwagon - and has the audacity of shamelessness to pretend to get out front of the issue by calling for a 'comprehensive' energy policy - something McCain has been calling for all along.
'McGrumpy is grasping at straws. He starts every sentence with a remark against Obama'
Is this you Becker?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRFj_joPn2s
Obama can take care of himself!
...can take care of himself.
McSame is not going to win this election. There is still 10% of the country that have not made up their mind, but the majority of them are tired of the the current mess of the country (thanks neo-con, right wing Holy Roller nut-balls). He does not have the legs, but if by accident he lies his way to the top (like his side is used to doing), I like my odds here:
RCP Average 07/14 - 07/24 48.7 37.3 Democrats +11.4
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 07/18 - 07/21 49 36 Democrats +13.0
Democracy Corps (D) 07/21 - 07/24 50 42 Democrats +8.0
Rasmussen 07/14 - 07/20 47 34 Democrats +13.0
If we can end up with a veto proof majority in the house and senate, who really cares if McSame is President? I know I don't.
McCain/Bush - it's all the same.
McCain needs to step it up with some serious talk about his plans for this country rather than approve of those insidious campaign spots regarding Paris and Britney or constantly talking about flip flopping, of which he's done his share. There are still some voters on the fence, and time is running out.
'McSame is not going to win this election.'
Hussein is not going to win this election.
'There is still 10% of the country that have not made up their mind,'
And they will be shocked to hear that B.O. decided that he was ready to be president of the united states after a grand total of 143 days in the senate. When they realize that you can''t believe anything Obama says and his only record is incredibly short and as the most liberal senator in congress, he and his klingon wife will be headed back to the south side of Chicago.
' but the majority of them are tired of the the current mess of the country'
'mess of the country'... They are tired of $4.25 gas which is entirely the fault of the democrats.
RCP Average has McCain and Obama in a statistical dead heat, and Obama has out spent McCain by about 60 million dollars. (of your money, lol)
'If we can end up with a veto proof majority in the house and senate, '
Heh, nope.
'who really cares if McSame is President? I know I don't.'
Excellent, you are making progress.
'Hussein is not going to win this election.'
Thank you this is one of the reasons the old man is going to lose.
'And they will be shocked to hear that B.O. decided that he was ready to be president of the united states after a grand total of 143 days in the senate. When they realize that you can''t believe anything Obama says and his only record is incredibly short and as the most liberal senator in congress, he and his klingon wife will be headed back to the south side of Chicago.'
Blah, blah, blah, same thing you have been spouting all the time Mr. Obama was kicking the crap out of everyone else on his way to being the next President of the United States. Besides the conservatives are the ones who have screwed this country into the ground---the change is we are now going to get a liberal...
'They are tired of $4.25 gas which is entirely the fault of the democrats.'
Liar. You idiots on the right had a Republican't President with a Republican't House and Senate and could not even pass a mediocre energy play---total failure on our part!
'RCP Average has McCain and Obama in a statistical dead heat, and Obama has out spent McCain by about 60 million dollars. (of your money, lol) '
So what as long as he wins who cares if McSame cannot raise the money he can?
'Heh, nope.'
I love how delusional you really are. We will see, I guess all the crooks are going to get reelected? Or their base is proud of all the corruption in your world?
'Excellent, you are making progress.'
And your not, still as stupid as the day your vile mouth appeared on this board.
It would have been enough for me not to vote for Obama, knowing that he is the most liberal politician in the U.S. Congress, as judged by the non-partisan National Journal and based on the cold hard facts of his far-left voting record.
It would have been enough for me not to vote for Obama, knowing that he has zero experience in foreign policy and has never managed or run anything of substance that requires executive experience – not a company, not an agency, not even a senate committee!
It would have been enough to know that Obama makes John Kerry’s acrobatic flip-flopping look like child’s play.
▪ He’ll pull the troops out of Iraq in 16 months, now he’ll “refine” that policy.
▪ He’ll filibuster the FISA bill, but he voted for it.
▪ He’ll campaign with public financing, but he rejected that option.
▪ He’ll renegotiate Nafta, but now he won’t.
▪ He’s against gun rights but supported the Supreme Court’s Heller decision for gun rights.
▪ He’ll debate Sen. John McCain anywhere, anytime, but he has refused to.
▪ Iran poses no serious threat, but oops, Iran poses a grave threat.
▪ He supports an undivided Jerusalem, but 24-hours later said he “misspoke.”
It would have been enough to appreciate Obama’s sponsorship of the “global poverty” act, which lays the groundwork for the United Nation’s draconian tax on America, and also that he fervently supports that cesspool on 2nd Avenue, which for decades has been a consistent purveyor of virulent anti-Semitic bias.
It would have been enough for me to consider Obama’s oft-repeated promises to raise taxes to unprecedented heights, open our borders further to the flood of illegal aliens, appoint his socialist cronies to the Supreme Court, reinforce his death-wish for America’s unborn babies, institutionalize socialized medicine, and support the anti-free-speech return of the so-called Fairness Doctrine.
Again the Global Poverty Act that amounts to a Marshall Plan for the Third World, first and foremost Africa.
It would have been enough for me to witness – with revulsion, I might add – Obama apologizing to a throng of Germans for America’s “mistakes.”
All of this, and much more, would have been enough for me not to vote for Obama. But it is not only his florid narcissism and Marxist policies that offend me.
It is his judgment, particularly when it comes to the people he admires, associates with, looks to for mentoring, and especially listens to. Lie Down with Dogs, Wake Up with Fleas
But who are those associations that, as an American and especially as a Jew, I am so worried about? Obama’s 300-plus foreign policy advisors include high-ranking people who are known for their undisguised contempt of Jews, in general, and their loathing of Israel.
I haven’t even mentioned the terrorists William Ayers and his wife Bernadette Dohrn, his indicted Chicago crony Tony Rezko, his first and most influential mentor, the Communist Frank Marshall Davis; or Father Michael Pfleger, the liberal Chicago priest and longtime friend of Obama, who delivered an explosive, racially charged sermon at Obama’s church, which forced the Democrat candidate to – what else? – dispense with him! You can Google these enemies of America!
Among the other people Obama has chosen to affiliate himself with are:
George Soros, the multibillionaire, self-hating Jew who has devoted a good part of his life to vilifying Israel and funding groups that work unstintingly to destroy the tiny state. With his 527 groups, he has funded people – like Obama – to shatter the bonds between Israel and America.
Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s pastor for over 20 years, has shrieked his Black Theology anti-American and anti-Semitic “sermons,” to which the current candidate for president had not a word of objection! Until, that is, Wright’s venom came to light and Obama had to dispense with him in the same way he dispensed with the “typical white woman” – his grandmother – who raised him. Wright, remember, is an ardent supporter of Louis Farrakhan, who called Judaism a 'gutter religion' and said Jews are 'bloodsuckers'.
These are only a smattering of people who, in Obama’s “judgment,” are worthy of being his mentors and political advisors.
If the corrupt ACORN group he so heartily supported in the Chicago machine – where he “made his bones” – doesn’t rig the election with the votes of millions of dead people and convicts, as they have so many times in the past. I trust the electorate will do the right thing.
The right thing, of course, would be vote against Obama, a candidate who has been infested with far more odious things than fleas, specifically the treacherous anti-American, anti-Israel advice that has clearly shaped his worldview.
Obama would make America less safe, and an unsafe America – which is the last, best hope for the survival of the Jews and Israel – would destroy the twin pillars of steadfast Judeo-Christian values. Destroying both nations is the goal of the Jihadists that Obama would sooner chat with than confront.
'
Thank you this is one of the reasons the old man is going to lose. '
Why, because Barack is an islamist appeaser?
'Blah, blah, blah,'
Not exactly a rebuttal.
'same thing you have been spouting all the time Mr. Obama was kicking the crap out of everyone else'
Barry has spent almost as much as EVERYONE ELSE COMBINED and he is still even with grandpa who is sitting on his cash.
'-the change is we are now going to get a liberal... '
Not with the 9-14% approval rating that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi enjoy. Regardless, Liberal is fine, leftist isn't. You aren't a liberal, you are a leftist. There is a gigantic difference.
'Liar.'
Who has stoopped drilling iin the USA? Who filibustered 2 attempts to open up domestic drilling? Tom Daschel even called it the 'Democrats Christmas gift to America'.
'You idiots on the right had a Republican't President with a Republican't House and Senate '
The democrats FILIBUSTERED more drilling in the USA and just yesterday Nancy Pelosi shut down debate on a proposed bill to increase domestic oil production. The democrats don't mind 4.25 dollar gas because people like you don't have to drive to work.
'So what as long as he wins'
Look at how much money he has flushed down the toilet so far and you will get a small idea of what he will do if, God forbid he becomes president.
'I love how delusional you really ar'
Not a rebuttal.
' still as stupid as the day your vile mouth appeared on this board.'
:-D
Obama backs away from McCain's debate challenge
WASHINGTON - Democratic candidate Barack Obama on Saturday backed away from rival John McCain's challenge for a series of joint appearances before the political conventions, agreeing only to the standard three debates in the fall.
In May, when a McCain adviser proposed a series of pre-convention appearances at town hall meetings, Obama said, 'I think that's a great idea.' In summer stumping on the campaign trail, McCain has often noted that Obama had not followed through and joined him in any events.
On Saturday, in a letter to the Commission on Presidential Debates, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said the short period between the last political convention and the first proposed debate made it likely that the commission-sponsored debates would be the only ones in the fall.
'We've committed to the three debates on the table,' campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Saturday in an interview. 'It's likely they will be the three appearances by the candidates this fall.'
Obama previously said:
'“If John McCain wants to meet me anywhere, anytime to have a debate about our respective policies in Iraq, Iran, the Middle East or around the world, that is a conversation I’m happy to have...''
Looks like he got caught lying again.
Why, because Barack is an islamist appeaser?
Sounds just about right for you, liar extremist.
'Not exactly a rebuttal.'
Trying to rebut your constant lie filled bigotry is exhausting. Blah, blah, blah is all I get out of your rants.
'Barry has spent almost as much as EVERYONE ELSE COMBINED and he is still even with grandpa who is sitting on his cash.'
So what? Grandpa is going to get his diaper changed for him.
'Not with the 9-14% approval rating that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi enjoy. Regardless, Liberal is fine, leftist isn't. You aren't a liberal, you are a leftist. There is a gigantic difference.'
I will take leftist or liberal, makes no difference to me as long as it is not anywhere near the right. I would love it if a socialist was elected president.
'Who has stoopped drilling iin the USA? Who filibustered 2 attempts to open up domestic drilling? Tom Daschel even called it the 'Democrats Christmas gift to America'.'
Hey dumb as*. The fact that we did not drill in protected placed did not make gas go to $4.25 per gallon, even someone as blind as you knows this. The fact that the Europeans have made their milage standards be above 40 for over 10 years means nothing? A good energy policy, milage standards, common sense and investment in alternative fuels is the answer---not drilling in some middle of nowhere for enough oil that in 10 years will make gas go down .10 a gallon.
The democrats FILIBUSTERED more drilling in the USA and just yesterday Nancy Pelosi shut down debate on a proposed bill to increase domestic oil production. The democrats don't mind 4.25 dollar gas because people like you don't have to drive to work.'
You are so full of sh*t! I can't wait until November, idiots like you will have to sit around and cry in their be.
'Look at how much money he has flushed down the toilet so far and you will get a small idea of what he will do if, God forbid he becomes president. '
Again now concentrate---so what???
'Not a rebuttal.'
Again right wing talking points and no need for a rebuttal.
:-D
Again, now concentrate---still as stupid as the first day your vile mouth showed up on this board.
“Sounds just about right for you, liar extremist.”
…Not exactly a rebuttal.
“Trying to rebut your constant lie filled bigotry is exhausting”
How would you know? And stop calling me a bigot, you are the only one who has vowed to vote for someone because of his race. And liar? Good lord. Look, you are just sick in the head, that’s all.
“So what?”
It shows how glibly he wastes other people’s money and why he shouldn’t be allowed to manage the United States. It also shows that he needs to saturate the media just to break even. Wait until grandpa starts breaking loose.
“Grandpa is going to get his diaper changed for him.”
Hey he’s old, he has earned it; you are just a spoiled infant. Who changes your diaper? How many people does it take to roll your fat ass to do it?
“I will take leftist or liberal, makes no difference to me”
Because you are too thick to understand the difference. There is a world of difference between the 2.
“I would love it if a socialist was elected president.”
Of course you would, you don’t know any better. Socialism does not work; it wrecks industry and gets the weak dependent on a nanny state. Since you are weak I guess you wouldn’t mind. The thing is, socialists will take all of your parents money away. You might actually have to do something.
“The fact that we did not drill in protected placed[sic] did not make gas go to $4.25 per gallon,”
Yes it did. We were not allowed to drill off the coasts, in Alaska or in the oil shale in Colorado, Wyoming and the Dakotas. We could have been an oil exporter if we were allowed to exploit our own recourses. The democrats voted against it and filibustered bills to drill so instead we ship billions overseas to countries that want to see us destroyed… Thanks.
“The fact that the Europeans have made their milage[sic] standards be above 40 for over 10 years means nothing?
The democrats have also put restrictions on the diesel engines that the europeans use to get higher mileage, and no, 40 mpg is not their average. Not unless you are counting Vespas. They also are paying about $10 US a gallon, not exactly a role model for success. (Just like your candidate)
“---not drilling in some middle of nowhere for enough oil that in 10 years will make gas go down .10 a gallon.”
Are you a geologist? No? Guess you don’t know what you are talking about.
“You are so full of sh*t!”
I can prove what I wrote.
“Again now concentrate---so what???”
Flushing money down the toilet isn’t an issue to someone who never earned hers. What do your parents have to say about Obamas mismanagement? Never mind, seeing the mess they made out of you doesn’t qualify him to talk about management. Guess you are just out of touch.
“still as stupid as the first day your vile mouth showed up on this board”
I see your vile self spent another Saturday night alone with the computer. If I am so stupid why is it that you can't come up with a smart rebuttal to anything I say?
Those of you that love the word 'neocon' really do need to look up it's definition.
Dare I suggest that those that use the word leftist or socialist as well asz libnazi do the same .99 percent of republican posters use it as an insult,which it isn't...
Why is McCain consistently making Obama the star of his campaign ?People expect a candidate to talk about his own program and are perfectly able to choose in such a context .Failing to understand that is a weakness:it demonstrates an inferiority complex that needs to be compensated by bashing the opponent,every psychologist will tell you that .A real disgrace for a politician.
McCain is becoming the king of bashing. It does sound like desperation - maybe he can't really remember what he stands for. I had been somewhat on the fence, but he's rapidly pushing me to the other side, and his smirk is getting as irritating as Bush. Guess a lot of people think he's a clone anyway.......
Libnazi is simply an accurate discription.
Tonny, inventing sockpuppets like 'abe' isn't going to fool anyone if what they say is still the illiterate ranting of a european adolescent snot.
Just how much Senate experience does Barack Obama have in terms of actual work days? Not much.
From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.
After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham Lincoln, FDR, Washington and Ronald Reagan. 143 days --
I keep leftovers in my refrigerator longer than that.
My Grandson spent more time in pre-school getting ready for Kindergarten.
Think about IT!!!
Obama is no fool.
His strength is with those who actually WANT America to lose. This being the case, he cannot, very well, just seem to be embracing those who are held in contempt by the libnazi elite and their propaganda arm the drive-by libnazi media.
I mean, look: The Iraq war is essentially over. We won, whatever that is suposed to mean, and now the libnazi media is ignoring it because otherwise, they would have to admit they've called it wrong so badly, once again.
This being the case, you cannot have Obama parading around with guys in uniform, doing high-fivers and shaking hands with those who he'd sell out in a heartbeat. After all, that portion of America who WANTS him to do so, would be incensed at his behavior.
'Obama's strength is with people who want America to lose!!!' Are you completely nuts - is everyone's assessment of you correct??
'Obama's strength is with people who want America to lose!!!''
There are many, many, leftist idiots that want to see America lose in Iraq because they can pin it on Bush. Dead American soldiers, the loss of our ability to defend ourselves and project power and the emboldening of the scumbags who attacked us all are fine with them, as long as they can vent their hate of Bush. Bush is one man and he is on his way out. The damage that these idiots would do to the USA would long outlast Bush.
Personally, I hate traitors who would chose defeat to islamist scumbags so they can have the luxury of saying that Bush lost.
I just love the mind reading on this site!
Dear Professor What...
Yes, that is what I said. Fox published a poll of democrats where 18% of them WANTED America to lose in Iraq.....WANTED!...!
You see, to us Conservatives, it is a known fact that some liberals think this is good for America. The polls proved it. They think America has something fundimentally wrong and only they can fix this. They certainly cannot say such a thing, but the polls certainly prove it.
So, yes, they do want to see us lose, and I do not care what folks think of me on this site....
'Yes, that is what I said. Fox published a poll of democrats where 18% of them WANTED America to lose in Iraq.....WANTED!...!'
Two things here you weak minded POS, 1-the key word in your stupid statement is Fox A bunch of liars speaking to a bunch of liars. 2-please post the link so we may go read this for ourselves.
'You see, to us Conservatives, it is a known fact that some liberals think this is good for America. The polls proved it. They think America has something fundimentally wrong and only they can fix this. They certainly cannot say such a thing, but the polls certainly prove it.'
What a bunch of rambling from an idiot old man who is never right, please post the links thart support this claptrap.
'So, yes, they do want to see us lose, and I do not care what folks think of me on this site....'
No we do not want America to lose anything, most of us think we have already lost enough, 4000+ troops is not enough for you war monger whores, you need more.
Please post your links to back any of this up or please hold on to your toaster while you get in the bathtub.
FOX News Poll: Nearly 1 in 5 Democrats Say World Will Be Better Off if U.S. Loses War
Thursday, October 04, 2007
By Dana Blanton
AP
Oct. 4: A U.S. soldier gives candy to an Iraqi boy in western Baghdad, Iraq.
NEW YORK — Nearly one out of every five Democrats thinks the world will be better off if America loses the war in Iraq, according to the FOX News Opinion Dynamics Poll released Thursday.
The percentage of Democrats (19 percent) who believe that is nearly four times the number of Republicans (5 percent) who gave the same answer. Seven percent of independents said the world would be better off if the U.S. lost the war.
www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...prayer_web.pdf
Overall, 11 percent of Americans think the world would be 'better off' if the U.S. lost the war, and 73 percent disagree.
Opinion Dynamics Corp. conducted the national poll of 900 registered voters for FOX News from Sept. 25 to Sept. 26. The poll has a 3-point margin of error.
where the he** these polls are taken? No where I've ever heard of.
Who is the expert who will declare whether the 'war' in Iraq has been won or lost and no one seems to really understand what 'won' would mean at any rate. The U.S. has already lost too much.
www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame
Hey - did anyone know that McCain was a POW???? It's been rammed down our throats so much, they hurt!
...the dem libnazis just bristle when you mention this poll. It is glaring proof of their utter contempt for anything and anyone who happens to disagree with them.
This is Obama's strength. These are the folks who got him where he is now, and he certainly will not abandon them. This being the case, his whole strategy going forward HAS to be retreat, or he loses these folks. This means he has to sell out the victory in Iraq, end of story.
Now go inform yourself.
' It's been rammed down our throats so much, they hurt!'
I suspect that's not all that gets rammed down your throat.
The low-class trailer trash are at it again!
llegal Obama donors: Middle Eastern Arabs
Gazan brothers' illicit contributions listed in government campaign filings
By Aaron Klein
JERUSALEM – Palestinian brothers inside the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip are listed in government election filings as having donated $29,521.54 to Sen. Barack Obama's campaign.
Donations of this nature would violate election laws, including prohibitions on receiving contributions from foreigners and guidelines against accepting more than $2,300 from one individual during a single election, Bob Biersack, a spokesman for the Federal Election Commission, told WND in response to a query.
The contributions also raise numerous questions about the Obama campaign's lax online donation form, which apparently allows for the possibility of foreign contributions. Last week, the Atlas Shrugs blog outlined a series of donations in 2007 made to Obama's campaign from two individuals, Monir Edwan and Hosam Edwan, totaling $29,521.54.
In an online form on Obama's campaign site, the Edwans listed their street as 'Tal Esaltan,' which they wrote was located in 'Rafah, GA.' Rafah is not a city in Georgia. The Atlas blog immediately raised concerns that the money may have been donated from the Gaza Strip town of Rafah.
The Edwans' donations are listed in both FEC filings and other election filing sites, such as CampaignMoney and donordata.org.
Monir made 20 donations ranging from $717 to $2017.50 from October through November 2007. His donations totaled $24321.41. Hosam made seven donations ranging from $508.63 to $1725.96, totaling $5,200.13, all in October 2007.
A WND investigation tracked down the Edwans, who are brothers living in the Tal Esaltan neighborhood of Rafah, a large refugee camp in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.
The Edwans are a large clan that include top Hamas supporters. Speaking to WND, the two brothers praised Obama and admitted giving the money online to his campaign. They said they are not U.S. citizens or green card holders but are citizens of 'Palestine.'...
Don't you think there has been illegal money floating all around every other candidate over the years?? Get real!
'Don't you think there has been illegal money floating all around every other candidate over the years??'
From Palestinians? Why wont he give it back then?
McCain's inaccurate, misleading attack ads are sounding desperate. It's been reported that McGrumpy himself helped to spread the falsehood about Obama not visiting the troops. Also reported was that the mainstream media went along with the spin even though some journalists tried to say it was untruthful, and it was kept alive for days before facing a reality check that the information was wrong. McCain started out calling for a civil campaign, but he has flip flopped and is running another presidential campaign with the same vile ideas that caused him to be on the defensive in 2000. The NY Times recently called his campaign the 'Low Road Express.' He is looking increasingly bitter and frustrated.
'It's been reported that McGrumpy himself helped to spread the falsehood about Obama not visiting the troops.'
It's not a falsehood, he blew them off when he learned he couldn't be photographed with them to boost his image..
'Also reported was that the mainstream media went along with the spin even though some journalists tried to say it was untruthful'
It has been proven. This is what the head surgeon said about Obama not visiting the troops:
'Last week, Senator Obama skipped a visit with wounded U.S. troops at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany because the Pentagon would not allow campaign staff or media to accompany him into the hospital. I served as director of trauma surgery at that hospital for nearly four years and saw the effect that a visit from a celebrity like Senator Obama could have on morale. During that time, I do not recall a single member of Congress canceling a visit with the troops despite being just a few hours away, but Senator Obama seems to have been more concerned with how the visit would affect him than how it would affect the soldiers recovering from wounds received in the service of their country.'
Dr. Danny Jazarevic
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