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The least qualified candidate in American history — at one of the most dangerous points in history.
Some elections are routine, some are important, and some are historic. If Senator John McCain wins this election, it will probably go down in history as routine. But if Senator Barack Obama wins, it is more likely to be historic — and catastrophic.
Once the election is over, the glittering generalities of rhetoric and style will mean nothing. Everything will depend on performance in facing huge challenges, domestic and foreign.
Performance is where Barack Obama has nothing to show for his political career, either in Illinois or in Washington.
Policies that he proposes under the banner of “change” are almost all policies that have been tried repeatedly in other countries — and failed repeatedly in other countries.
Politicians telling businesses how to operate? That’s been tried in countries around the world, especially during the second half of the 20th century. It has failed so often and so badly that even socialist and communist governments were freeing up their markets by the end of the century.
The economies of China and India began their take-off into high rates of growth when they got rid of precisely the kinds of policies that Obama is advocating for the United States under the magic mantra of “change.”
Putting restrictions on international trade in order to save jobs at home? That was tried here with the Hawley-Smoot tariff during the Great Depression.
Unemployment was 9 percent when that tariff was passed to save jobs, but unemployment went up instead of down, and reached 25 percent before the decade was over.
Higher taxes to “spread the wealth around,” as Obama puts it? The idea of redistributing wealth has turned into the reality of redistributing poverty, in countries where wealth has fled and the production of new wealth has been stifled by a lack of incentives.
Economic disasters, however, may pale by comparison with the catastrophe of Iran with nuclear weapons. Glib rhetoric about Iran being “a small country,” as Obama called it, will be a bitter irony for Americans who will have to live in the shadow of a nuclear threat that cannot be deterred, as that of the Soviet Union could be, by the threat of a nuclear counter-attack.
Suicidal fanatics cannot be deterred. If they are willing to die and we are not, then we are at their mercy — and they have no mercy. Moreover, once they get nuclear weapons, that is a situation which cannot be reversed, either in this generation or in generations to come.
Is this the legacy we wish to leave our children and grandchildren, by voting on the basis of style and symbolism, rather than substance?
If Barack Obama thinks that such a catastrophe can be avoided by sitting down and talking with the leaders of Iran, then he is repeating a fallacy that helped bring on World War II.
In a nuclear age, one country does not have to send troops to occupy another country in order to conquer it. A country is conquered if another country can dictate who rules it, as the Mongols once did with Russia, and as Osama bin Laden tried to do when he threatened retaliation against places in the United States that voted for George W. Bush. But he didn’t have nuclear weapons to back up that threat — yet.
America has never been a conquered country, so it may be very hard for most Americans even to conceive what that can mean. After France was conquered in 1940, it was reduced to turning over some of its own innocent citizens to the Nazis to kill, just because those citizens were Jewish.
Do you think our leaders wouldn’t do that? Not even if the alternative was to see New York and Los Angeles go up in mushroom clouds? If I were Jewish, I wouldn’t bet my life on that.
What the Middle East fanatics want is not just our resources or even our lives, but our humiliation first, in whatever sadistic ways they can think of. Their lust for humiliation has already been repeatedly demonstrated in their videotaped beheadings that find such an eager market in the Middle East.
None of this can be prevented by glib talk, but only by character, courage and decisive actions — none of which Barack Obama has ever demonstrated.
Obama + Pelosi + Reid + Frank =ECONOMIC DISASTER FOR AMERICA
America's founding fathers built a government based on checks and balances. The Idea is to prevent this country from over-reacting to temporary swings in public opinion or worse to fall in line behind one demagogue. If Senator Obama wins the presidential election we are in danger of eliminating most of the checks and balances that have protected this country from the whims of one political leader. Based on polls we may have a Democratic President and a filibuster-proof Senate and a majority in the House. This democratic party 'perfect storm' is a danger to the future of this country.
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In a dangerous world entering an era of uncontrolled nuclear proliferation, the choice between the most prepared foreign policy candidate in memory vs. a novice with zero experience and the wobbliest one-world instincts is not a close call.[...]
On... domestic issues, McCain is just the kind of moderate conservative that the Washington/media establishment once loved — the champion of myriad conservative heresies that made him a burr in the side of congressional Republicans and George W. Bush.
But now that he is standing in the way of an audacity-of-hope Democratic restoration, erstwhile friends recoil from McCain on the pretense that he has suddenly become right wing.
Self-serving rubbish. McCain is who he always was. Generally speaking, he sees government as a Rooseveltian counterweight (Teddy with a touch of Franklin) to the various malefactors of wealth and power.
He wants government to tackle large looming liabilities such as Social Security and Medicare. He wants to free up health insurance by beginning to sever its debilitating connection to employment — a ruinous accident of history (arising from World War II wage and price controls) that increases the terror of job loss, inhibits labor mobility and saddles American industry with costs that are driving it (see: Detroit) into insolvency. And he supports lower corporate and marginal tax rates to encourage entrepreneurship and job creation.
An eclectic, moderate, generally centrist agenda in a guy almost congenitally given to bipartisanship.
Obama, on the other hand, talks less and less about bipartisanship, his calling card during his earlier messianic stage. He does not need to. If he wins, he will have large Democratic majorities in both houses. And unlike 1992, Obama is no Clinton centrist.
What will you get?
(1) Card check, meaning the abolition of the secret ballot in the certification of unions in the workplace. Large men will come to your house at night and ask you to sign a card supporting a union. You will sign.
(2) The so-called Fairness Doctrine — a project of Nancy Pelosi and leading Democratic senators — a Hugo Chavez-style travesty designed to abolish conservative talk radio.
(3) Judges who go beyond even the constitutional creativity we expect from Democratic appointees. Judges chosen according to Obama's publicly declared criterion: 'empathy' for the 'poor or African-American or gay or disabled or old' — in a legal system historically predicated on the idea of justice entirely blind to one's station in life.
(4) An unprecedented expansion of government power. Yes, I know. It has already happened. A conservative government has already partially nationalized the mortgage industry, the insurance industry and nine of the largest U.S. banks.
This is all generally swallowed because everyone understands that the current crisis demands extraordinary measures. The difference is that conservatives are instinctively inclined to make such measures temporary.
Whereas an Obama-Pelosi-Reid-Barney Frank administration will find irresistible the temptation to use the tools inherited — $700 billion of largely uncontrolled spending — as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to radically remake the American economy and social compact...
The alternative is a McCain administration with a moderate conservative presiding over a divided government and generally inclined to resist a European social-democratic model of economic and social regulation featuring, for example, wealth-distributing, growth-killing marginal tax rates.
The national security choice in this election is no contest. The domestic policy choice is more equivocal because it is ideological. McCain is the quintessential center-right candidate. Yet the quintessential center-right country is poised to reject him. The hunger for anti-Republican catharsis and the blinding promise of Obamian hope are simply too strong. The reckoning comes in the morning.
We've already seen a disaster with the present government. We can't afford more under the Republicans.
'We've already seen a disaster with the present government.'
The Bush administration is not running for re-election. The financial disaster that we are seeing was caused entirely by the democrats in congress. Chris Dodd, Barney Frank stopped republican efforts to regulate freddie and fannie and freddie and fanny are what brought the economy down. Obama got the second highest amount of bribes from freddie and fannie to look away while their CEO's got millions. Obama then hired those CEO's as his campaign advisors.
Here, democrats in their own words:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
Please watch that. That is what you will be turning the ENTIRE government over to if you vote Obama.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4
The experienced politicians blundered badly, but so-called inexperince matters so much that it would be a disaster to change.
What doesn't make sense to that logic???
The republican Bush admin has been in power for 8 years, but all the
problems are the responsibility of the demonrat experienced politicians.
What doesn't make sense to that logic???
After 9/11 we invaded Afghanistan hot on the trail of the terrorists osama bin laden and al qaeda, but as soon as we got to the Pakistan border we stopped chasing them, and invaded Iraq instead.
What doesn't make sense to that stategy???
The republican appointed Fed reserve chairman Greenspan makes an 'error' and causes the banking system to become totally unregulated and the collapse from unregulated greed and mismanagement, but what happened is the exclusive fault of the demonrats.
What doesn't make sense to that theory???
Why isn't Bush out campaigning for his republican sucessor if they are so good, and have done such a fine job of governing???
The experienced politicians blundered badly, but so-called inexperince[sic] matters so much that it would be a disaster to change.
What doesn't make sense to that logic???
that isn't the logic. The logic is that you will be giving all branches of the government to THIS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
If you vote Obama.
'The republican appointed Fed reserve chairman Greenspan makes an 'error' and causes the banking system to become totally unregulated'
That is not what happened and he was also 'appointed' (Stayed on through) by the Clinton administration. Regardless, McCain tried to get the system regulated and was BLOCKED by bought off democrats:
John Mccain May 25, 2005 from the Senate floor discussing the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005
Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
'Why isn't Bush out campaigning for his republican sucessor[sic]'
Because McCain will not run things like Bush.
You say: 'Because McCain will not run things like Bush.'
I say: Because McCain will not be running ANYTHING.
McCain is turning into a bumbling, erratic, hyper individual who seems to start every speech with 'Obama'. What are HIS policies. We know what's wrong with this country - he doesn't have to keep regurgitating it, but WHAT is he going to do to fix it? He hasn't convinced me yet, and time is running out and 'Joe' isn't the answer.
Gee, jonas eurtisflatius, thanks for reposting that shit over and over.
You are not funny.
And this is why.
In any democratic society where political parties are fairly evenly matched, IT IS ALWAYS THE FLOATING VOTER who decides the result, without exception. Not open to discussion - FACT !
Committed party voters simply do not count, their vote is guaranteed and the parties have to concentrate on the FLOATER. It is a waste of time preaching to the converted.
A FLOATER is a person who has NO party allegiances and votes according to what they see and hear - they use their own judgement.
In this election, the candidates are so unique and actually poorly selected by their parties, that the percentage of floating voters will be very high.
The very issue of an old man and his awful VP against a black man has created a large divide amongst voters, especially with the backgrounds and profiles of both candidates being highly controversial.
Many millions of floaters will at this moment have decided to vote for Obama for various reasons and the Opinion Polls reflect this - wrongly as usual.
Many millions of these floaters will almost certainly switch their voting intentions at the ballot box. A last minute change.
REASON ? Being conservative, lack of confidence, suspicion, race issue, better the devil you know than the devil you do not and a hundred more different reasons.
RESULT ; McCain will definitely win with a satisfactory majority, entirely due to the unpredictable FLOATER.
On November 5th it will be PRESIDENT ELECT JOHN McCain.
PS - Not my choice, purely logical and intelligent analysis of the candidates profiles and behaviour, plus some knowledge of the mass voting patterns of populations.
De Plane, De Plane, De Plane!!! Meester Obama, please let us on de plane!!
We only wanted to give your campaign fair and balanced coverage....Please let us on de plane! Yes, We endorsed Mr. McCain instead of you but, please let us on de plane!!! Yes, we are from the New York Post and the Washington Times but please let us on de Plane!!...No??? You will not let us on de plane??? Oh, you don't have us eeen your baaack pocket eh????? No, meester Obama you don't. We are 'thinking' peeeples Newspapers and cannot be bought as you have done with CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS......but won't you please let us onto your plane this weekend as you can then let us report about the stunning upset you are about to experience because you listened to tainted Polls and rested so nicely on your beauteeeful words...everywhere you went from maine to Iowa!! Maybe, 2012 Meester Obama! You will have gained much experience by then and could lick the boots of Mister McCain and Ms. Palin!!
McCain might have been around politics longer, so.........? Sometimes intelligence and stability vastly make up for experience. Experience isn't always good experience.
The GOP was first in banning reporters they considered hostile from their campaign plane.Ask Maureen Dowd,she knows...
www.newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/10/02/nyt-maureen-dow d-kicked-mccains-campaign-plane-hes-dismissive-1s
When Obama does it they will wail,double standards as usual.
Apparently McCain is moving his campaign HQ to somewhere else:
www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1440378.php/Ra re_%26quotliving_fossil%26quot_nest_found_on_New_Zealand_mainland_
'The GOP was first in banning reporters they considered hostile from their campaign plane.Ask Maureen Dowd,she knows...'
They should have tossed that red headed skank out at 30,000 feet.,
The people posting enormous copied matter into these M&C pages must have an IQ of ZERO.
They certainly feel no guilt at abusing this site, which is intended for personal comments NOT as a reproduction platform for mammoth-length copied garble from just about every source and paper in the States.
I would like to suggest to these literary incompetents, that if they are completely unable to compose comments of their own, to get off this site and leave it for others WHO CAN !
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