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DavidNov 13th, 2006 - 03:23:05

About time. It's taken an election, and the prospect of a seething report from an independent commission, to accept that their 'shock, awe, then screw it up' strategy has been a dismal failure.

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Shalom FreedmanNov 13th, 2006 - 06:35:30

The United States is about to embark on a path of self- deception. Or rather to continue on it. Iran and Syria are now working to take over Lebanon. The majority of that nation which opposes a Hezbollah- Syria- Iranian takeover of Iran will most likely not be supported to the degree necessary to prevent this development. As for Iraq, the Iranians will certainly be happy to led the United States withdraw. And however this withdrawal is presented in the Media it will be perceived as a defeat for the United States in Iraq. It seems to me withdrawal is inevitable.
Iran is not simply an enemy of the United States because of conflicting interests here and there. It is a totalitarian radical Islamic State whose goal is to see the destruction of the kind of democracy the United States and the West represent.
Talking with Iran may have limited practical value here and there. It is fundamentally wrong, and will backfire on the United States.
The Iranians are not going to stop their nuclear push for one instance. Nor are they going to relent in their effort to dominate the Gulf completely.
A lot of nations are worried about the United States going on the path of self- deception. First of all Israel which Iran has vowed to destroy. But also other American allies Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan are troubled at the prospect of a rising Iran and a retreating United States.
The United States has to find a new strategy. I believe it should be focused on Iran which is now arguably the most dangerous nation in the world. It can not simply bring us a wave of Terror the like of which the world has not seen, it can push towards the nuclear Armageddon the prospect of which we all thought had vanished with the demise of the Soviet Union.

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FrankNov 13th, 2006 - 13:50:44

Its also worthwhile to point out that during Saddam Husseins twenty years of tyranny 250,000-350,000 people died... but in the last three years since the US Invasion,looking for non-existant WMD's, 600,000 Iraqis have died and another 1,500,000 have fled the country as it hurls towards self-destruction.
What was it Bush said 'We will bring Peace,Stabiliity ,Freedom and above all ,Democrasy to Iraq'.

Jesus.H.Christ.....WHAT A MESS!

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FrankNov 13th, 2006 - 14:32:28

Salom Freedmen says
'The United States has to find a new strategy. I believe it should be focused on Iran which is now arguably the most dangerous nation in the world. It can not simply bring us a wave of Terror the like of which the world has not seen, it can push towards the nuclear Armageddon'
..But Iran has ZERO WMD's while Israel has 200-300 WMD,s (manufactured at DIMONA) which have NEVER been inspected,not to mention the Israeli Chemical and Biological weapon stockpiles, which also have NEVER seen the light of day.
If you were Iran ,would you be suicidal enough to attack Israel,without considering the consequences first?.
I thought not.

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SP4Nov 13th, 2006 - 22:46:01

Absolutely! Let's discuss:

Capture and torture of American diplomats and theit assistants

across the board human rights violations

backing hizbolla and war with israel

death sentences for anti-Islamics

Golly, that'll take up the whole day!

...Jeeesus!

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FrankNov 14th, 2006 - 11:42:53

SP4...yes absolutely correct..no dispute ..and lets also discuss 14th Nov 1986,when the White House acknowledged the CIA role in secretly shipping weapons to Iran.
Now back to DIMONA and the curious fact that Bush has never once mentioned the Israeli 200-300WMD's which HAVE NEVER BEEN INSPECTED....discuss!

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FrankNov 14th, 2006 - 12:03:41

This is where it hits the fan....
In 1986, the White House acknowledged the CIA role in secretly shipping weapons to Iran.

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