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Mar 16, 2007, 16:47 GMT
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Plame was not a covert op, hence the reason no one was charged with releasing her name.
Plame was on the NOC list (Non-Official Cover), and she had ties to a front company with a presence in Iran that then could no longer be used because of Plame's exposure. So the 'cover or not covert' debate is a red herring.
do a bit more research... she most certainly WAS a covert officer, as quoted by colleagues AND fitzgerald before the trial... NOC status = covert...
She just stated under oath before congress that she WAS a covert op.
did you all see her testimony? yeah, she looks great. but what's the deal with the Code Pink tranny in the background?
How do you know that she was not a covert op. She obviously was trained to be a operative that could include covert missions. She may never had been on a covert op and still be one.. an astronaut is still an astronuat whether they have been on a mission or not....Or whether they wear depends or not.
Ms. Plame's identity was Classified. This has not been, nor is it now disputed by any credible source. Furthermore, she had performed covert missions within the legal description of covert, that being within the last five years, therefore, legally, she was covert, regardless of personal speculation to the contrary. When you allow party politics to cloud your vision, you will see what you want to see.
'Me' is right. Plame wasn't covert. 'Covert' is the opposite of 'overt.' She was overt because she's glamorous — with that gorgeous blond hair, those come-hither eyes, and that kickass figure. If she was 'covert' they would have made her look like what's-her-name, Dick Cheney's wife. You know — invisible, blending in with the background.
Ewww. Why doesn't she just file her lawsuit and get it over with already?
She was a spook and got what she deserved for playing god with other people's countries and intrests. Libby is a politician scumbag and I hope he gets what he deserves. This, friends, would be considered poetic justice. There is nothing sweeter than your enemies destroying each other.
Whatever has come during the erudite follies
of men at the spy game shall come to pass when
God judges us all....
The MI5 estimated informations of Silvio Berlusconi
and the Italian Secret Service so serious that this
U.K. service sent Valery on a very importan mission
to Nigeria and Valery was even the _top-CIA-analyst_
around Baghdad.
Hint:Who did the Tadji civil nuclear reactor study ?
The whole Plame/Wilson story doesn't pass the sniff test for credibility. Both Plame and her husband lied about Plames role in initiating Wilsons trip to Niger, and when Wilson came back - instead of reporting to the Whitehouse or to the state department or CIA, he writes an Op-Ed piece for the NY Times grossly misrepresenting his mission and what he found. A political hit job.
This is all detailed in the report of the bi-partisan 9/11 committee, after which both Plame and Wilson should have disappeared in shame.
But since the 9 out of 10 voting Democratic journalists who do most of the reporting we read all agree on one thing, their deep and abiding hatred of George Bush, Plame and Wilson get to assume the role of martyrs for the cause.
They get books, movies and magazine covers and a much better life than either one had before, thriving in the adoration of all of the fellow Bush hating friends.
All Politix has to be a covert Bush-hater because he/she is wrong. He/she is wrong because he/she doesn't understand that the Bushes and the Wilsons are in cahoots and cooked this whole thing up from the very beginning. Their idea was to goad a Democratic Congress into impeaching Bush so Bush could win in the Senate as Bill Clinton did. Then, having won against impeachment in the Senate, he could raise his job-performance as Bill Clinton did with a rating above 60%. This savvy plot was cooked up when Pat Robertson told Bush that God had told him in a dream that his rating was going to go down. Sooo, All Politix, have I ever got some ocean-front property in central Kansas to sell you — real cheap!
Valery's CIA ranking order was the 4th place!
Senator John Warner (chair of Armed Services)
does he give a conformation for this ranking?
She was not undercover so how can her cover be blown
Valerie wasn't 'under cover,' because she was 'over cover.' 'Over cover' is a secret term (now leaked, of course) that the CIA has long used to represent personnel like her. Her 'over cover' was her glamorous looks, meaning that people would look at her instead of the secret work she was doing. Though she was doing 'under cover' work, she herself wasn't 'under cover,' but rather she was 'over cover.' And it was this 'over cover' that was blown, leaking (to Bush-hating media like Novak) her 'under cover' work. Like sending to Niger her husband, whose real mission, approved in advance by Der Busher Himself, was to secure yellow cake and send it to So Damn Insane so he could have his WMDs, thus giving Der Busher a reason to launch OIF (Operation Iraqi Freedom).
Is it me or is Sharon Stone Valerie's ugly cousin? What's D.C.'s problem? I thought the agency wasn't supposed to hire beautiful people to do undercover work. Isn't that in the spy manual somewhere? They should send in a legitimate moviestar like Sharon Stone or Halley Berry if that's the effect they want. In my opinion D.C. needs an eyepatch, a white persian cat, and a Neru suit to complete the persona. Who can stop the evil one? Who will save us now? Is'nt it interesting that Captain America was recently murdered? Didn't he work for DC too?
The CIA's OSM (Official Spy Manual) says, page 1073A, and I quote, 'In no instance shall a star of cinema or stage be hired, engaged or contracted for any Agency mission, although so-called 'beautiful people' may be so hired, engaged or contracted, but for specified purposes only, provided there is legitimate, sufficient and necessary reason purposeful to the mission.'
Too bad I'm not the president. I'd a sent her to Pakistan, and told the homes she was coming.
The bitch forgot her place, and now shes out in the open. This Bush guy is just too nice for my sensibilities.
Congress weeps for one liberal agent while they fail 100,000 troops in the field. The dead weep in the afterlife.
Joe Wilson: the only thing missing is the shoe phone.
Well, it's interesting to note that Fox news online has NOTHING on the Congressional hearing today. What does that tell you about 'We Report, You Decide?' FOX News is a joke.
Valerie Plame was a covert operative. Her position in the CIA is classified. Even though Bush said there would be an internal investigation of this matter, there wasn't one. Classified information was leaked and a covert operative was outed. Heads should have rolled.
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