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'The will of the American People will not stand. We will push this legislation through no matter what...don't they understand I've already been paid for this?'
What are we paying these idiots for if they can't get any legislation done? Have some debate, make some changes, get it passed. Yet another unfortunate symptom of a broken system.
Since when breaking the law illegally, become legal. this's just one of many examples. it's a matter of principles.
Breaking the law illegally? How can you break the law legally? Educate me oh redundant one....
Thank goodness this got defeated. 78% of the American people disapproved of this legislation.
Secure the border first, ship these illegals back to Mexico, and expand LEGAL immigration.
THE COMMUNIST HORDES HAVE BE PUSHED BACK FOR NOW
Great news, but stay awake. They'll try to sneak it in again and Bush will be on the warpath to get revenge.
Yahoo-The American PEOPLE came through.
BEEN**
Ok, I will go back to my home country, but do it now, I cannot wait to go back so that you can wash your dishes, mow your lawn, cook your food and care for your kids.
The easiest way to stop the problem is to take a tactic from Disneyland. In order to get everybody to go home at the end of the night, they don't need an army of policemen. They just turn off the rides. If we were to turn off the benefits that are extended to illegal aliens, they would self-deport. The Constitution requires our government to secure our borders against invasion. The president and congress must be told to follow the Constitution.
I guess everyone missed the fact that along w/ allowing those to legalize their status, they would have had to pay thousands of dollars in penalty fees, pay back ALL back taxes, register and go through criminal background checks, and maybe...they might be approved to be a green card holder.
Instead, we have the current system which encourages people to go underground, pay no taxes, pay no penalties, and have no way of tracking them. How does that improve our national security?
Everyone is so hung up on this amnesty thing that they don't bother to read the details to really makes it not an amnesty at all. Amnesty implies a free ride...this bill was anything BUT a free ride. It would have increased our Border Patrol by 20,000 plus new officers, build new ways, fund new programs to catch illegal immigrants and in general help us track millions of formally illegal immigrants and possible future terrorists. It would have force everyone to go through background checks in which we would deport all the criminal illegal aliens.
It's ironic that all the Republican Senators who voted to kill this bill come from states that don't have a lot of illegal immigrants. (Kansas, Iowa, South Carolina, to name a few) They obviously don't see the problems of having 12 million plus illegal immigrants creating an underground economy. Ship them all out? LOL. Ok, so who's going to pick your crops? Who's going to mow your lawn? Who's going to nanny your kids? Who's going to build your houses? Get real folks, if there's a dirty job that American's don't want, someone has to do it and we all know who we're going to call to get our lawns mowed, our pools cleaned, our roofs fixed, etc...
The spirit of compromise which was embodied in this bill has been abandoned for the partisan bickering which will keep America frozen in time. If the only way to pass a bill in this new polarized country is to get a 60 man majority nothing will get done. Also voting against cloture is NOT a vote against a bill. When healthy debate is used to kill a bill everyone looses. By the way, does anyone remember when the Republicans, who oppose this bill and are blatantly avoiding a straight up or down vote, were saying that the Democrats owed the American people an up or down vote. They tried to have this quaint constitutional tidbit abolished.
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How about a law that fines anyone who hires an illegal 250,000 dollars.I think that would send some people home.No job,no reason to stay.
This bill was a mockery of rule by law. First, authorize and fund the manpower we need to handle the law abiding applications we currently need to process. Second, make sure that each applicant is vetted to eliminate criminals, terrorists and other undesirables. For non-citizens who support terrorost Islamic operations here in the USA,don't allow them citizenship. For those becoming citizens, make citizenship contingent on never in the past, present, or future supporting, aiding or abetting terrorist activities in the USA. Make citizenship retroactively null and void for those who declare their support or do support terrorism in the USA.
Benefits?
Illegal immigrants can not get welfare, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, and every federal program on the books.
The only thing that local states cover is health check ups for pregnant women and that's a public policy concern. We certainly don't want innocent babies being born on the streets of Hometown, USA do we? Oh, and free public education. How is that bad? Do we REALLY want millions of illegal immigrant children running around the streets because they can't goto school? Once again, its a public policy issue.
I forgot to mention Social Security. It's no secret that at the current rate, its going to run out. I'm surprised no one in the press picked this up, but *shrug* 12 million plus people paying all back taxes, SS, medicaid/medicare would probably pay for quite a lot of things that we are currently over budget. Not to mention keep Social Security running for just a bit longer.
Numerous gov't agencies were salivating at the bit at the numbers of tax dollars that was going to be rolling in. I'd say, the benefits to Americans on a long term would have far outweighed a few public policy 'benefits' that illegal immigrants received.
This bill was a mockery of rule by law. First, authorize and fund the manpower we need to handle the law abiding applications we currently need to process. Second, make sure that each applicant is vetted to eliminate criminals, terrorists and other undesirables. For non-citizens who support terrorost Islamic operations here in the USA,don't allow them citizenship. For those becoming citizens, make citizenship contingent on never in the past, present, or future supporting, aiding or abetting terrorist activities in the USA. Make citizenship contingent on the truth of the application and retroactively null and void for those who declare their support or do support terrorism in the USA and deport them back to their country of origin..
This bill was a mockery of rule by law. First, authorize and fund the manpower we need to handle the law abiding applications we currently need to process. Second, make sure that each applicant is vetted to eliminate criminals, terrorists and other undesirables. For non-citizens who support terrorost Islamic operations here in the USA,don't allow them citizenship. For those becoming citizens, make citizenship contingent on never in the past, present, or future supporting, aiding or abetting terrorist activities in the USA. Make citizenship contingent on the truth of the application and retroactively null and void for those who declare their support or do support terrorism in the USA and deport them back to their country of origin..
Just as my grandfather did, the new immigrants should have to stand in line and pay their dues.The american people as a majority I feel, don't have a problem with them entering our great nation but how it is being done is the true problem.
What you are stating is not true these people get things that their not entitled to and we all know it who has to pay for this we do thats who.
Of course E. Kennedy will be back! He's becoming more and more senile...
Illegal 'immigrants' are a slap in the face to all legal immigrants out there. Any measure to 'legalize' their status other than dipping them in napalm would amount to amnesty.
I hope Mr Mac Cains campaign gos up in flames along with Ted Kennedy this backfired on these two big time. Mr Bush was only Interested in one thing and that was getting the glory for passing a Bill that the American people did not want this was for his own selfish needs.
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I am Proud to be your fellow American you both hit the Bull eye.
Times might of changed but its nice to know that the American people will ban and unite together when the going gets ruff We made it guys may god bless you all. HAPPY FORTH OF JULY.
I have never been more proud to be an American as I am Today this is our land and we stood up for it, We made all the calls we sent all the letters to the White House and the Senate and they heard us people they heard us.......... Thank God.
Are you kidding me I also contacted members of congress I'm Exhausted but thankful. Good night,
The Democrats want this bill for Hispanic votes. Bush wants it for his legacy and BOTH want it for corporate interests and the planned North American Union.
Its insane because for the first time ever I was depending on the senate Republicans to kill this bill.
I will NEVER REGAIN RESPECT for Kennedy, Reid or for that matter...pelosi.
But Senator Webb (D-VA), my senator, did come through.
Everythings 'topsy turvy' and Bush says they need to 'work together'.
Meanwhile Pelosi says IMPEACHMENT IS OFF THE TABLE.
I think Pelosi cut a backroom deal with Bush.
This Vote was the vote to REMEMBER WHO to reject next time around. No matter which party.
You cannot give people who KNOWINGLY broke the law AMNESTY people are just not going to stand for it their just not plain and simple. I think the American people would of had a little better reaction to all of this if you did not have these people who are in every sense of the word CRIMINALS marching and screaming for rights their not Entitled to that just caused OUTRAGE and DISGUST. As part of the Bill in the Senate there was restrictions put on family ties they went and started screaming over that too when it looks like your going to get Amnesty for breaking the law you shut up and try to be thankful for something you don't start screaming for more and more and more people just got fed up and said now your not getting anything.
You are right this is what made me and a whole lot more furious they ralied too many times for rights that their not Entitled too and now you have the Finished product.
Now lets IMPEACH MR BUSH Thank god that this jerk was stopped from selling us out.
I'm all for it but don't for one second forget about Ted Kennedy and MR Mc Cain....................................................................... ..
Lets also start screaming to have the laws that are already on the books ENFORSED I have already started doing my part come on America I need help.
They tried to push us around and we pushed back and we pushed back hard this a great day to be an American PARTY PEOPLE PARTY.....
If you got paid dumb ass you got ripped off the only thing your going to push is your sorry DEFEATED ass back over the boarder let your own country pay for you and your 5 dozen kids. The will of free loaders went up in scorching flames. Oh that's right your own country refuses to pay for you that must be a nice feeling what happened did they forget to pay you. Guess what we did not get paid a dime and we won GOD BLESS AMERICA..................................
I could not have said it any better then you did this was their own undoing.
I'M glad that you told this Dumb, Dumb off what a statement to make I got paid this is exactly why these people are not liked and never will be. Its sad in a way that these people had to be shown once and for all what their right are and that is they HAVE NO RIGHTS ZIPP. What would of happen if they broke the laws in their country they wouldn't dare because they would be thrown in JAIL. Now everyone don't stop here start screaming and scream loud to get the laws on the books ENFORSED we have laws for a reason and this is the REASON.GOD BLESS THE U.S.A.
The American people have spoke and they have spoken loud and clear you three and many more of you should hang your heads in shame you tried to sell your own people out for your own GREEDY NEEDS. But you see we seen it coming and we UNITED TOGETHER AND STOPPTED the likes OF ALL OF YOU my Father fought in the army and the Navy for this great country of ours and I'LL be damned if I'M going to ever let it be taken over by LAW BREAKING ILLEGALS YOU SEE GENTLEMAN I Owe that to MY FATHER. MAY GOD BLESS THIS BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY OF OURS.
I second that and I salute you and your Dad. I have just arrived back from Iraq and at know time was their any Illegal Immigrant by my side fighting for this country of ours none they were know where around and I don't think that they ever will be around AS A UNITED STATES SOILDER I say GOD BLESS AMERICA.
FIRECRACKERS, FIRECRACKERS BOOM,BOOM,BOOM YEA.YEA, YEA.
BYE, Bye.....................................................................
I've always thought that companies who hire illegals should be fined big time!
They seem to get off pretty easy. It's too bad a better compromise couldn't have been presented, and Bush was really counting on this bill passing to make him look better. I also believe if they rounded up all the illegals and sent them back, this country would suffer to some degree.
I have to agree with they had it coming because they did I for one am sick and tired of seeing these people wear tee shirts that read WHERE ILLEGAL SO WHAT how dare they. who told these people that they had rights In this country of corse they don't how dumb are they, When they came to this country they knew full well what the laws were you can't feel sorry for people who feel Its right to free load on others proud people don't do that now do they.....you don't say to people here I am now Im your problem no, no we have to take care of our own people first and that came out loud and clear today. I actually saw people having tee shirts made up that read WHERE LEGAL GET THE HELL OUT.
Its a shame but you are right If we went over to Mexico with the Idea that we had rights in that country what do you think would happen they would throw us out thats what. The people who put the Idea in these peoples minds that they had any kind of rights are also to blame When your ILLEGAL YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS WHATS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT LOOK UP THE WORD ILLEGAL IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. GOD BLESS AMERICA WE DID IT GUYS.
Now we have another big job to do scream as loud as you can to get the laws already on the books ENFORSED call the White House, the senate and Congress do what ever you have to just do it.
MR Chertoff the head of home land security now says that he going to crack down hard on Illegal Immigrants and the Employees that hire them well its about time. Thank god these people finally got the message These Senators were shocked to no end that the Capitols switch board was so flooded with calls from the American people demanding that this Bill not get passed why was it such a shock where have they been the last couple of years?
They have had their heads up their assholes that where.
The Capitol switch board was shut down do to the volume of angry calls yes people we did it. HAPPY FOURTH.
why the American people can't do the same in protesting Bush's war!!!
Most of the American people are against the war but you see our soldiers are the ones over their risking their lives their are no Illegal Aliens over their And you know how I know that pal because I just got back from their last month. And one has nothing to do with the other and do you know why because we are defending our country against INVADERS just like my father did we are fighting for democracy for the freedom of Iraq as we have in this land called my land AMERICA. I loath people who think that they can Illegally take things that they have NO RIGHT TO and those people are called ILLEGAL ALIENS. I loathed people who try to march and scream for right that their not ENTITLED TO put a uniform on and get your ass shot at then open your mouths until then SHUT UP.
How beautifully said on behalf of my self and my family THANK YOU. You people are the true HEROS. GOD BLESS THE U.S.A
Nerve why don't we protest the war NERVE NERVE NERVE these people make me sick.
Guys we banned together as a Nation yesterday we got the job done now we must get the laws already on the books ENFORSED, ENFORSED lets start SCREAMING AFTER ALL ITS OUR RIGHT, OUR RIGHT AS AMERICANS. God Bless you MR Soldier thank you for everything. GOD BLESS AMERICA................................
You Know it disgusted me watching Illegal people March and scream for rights that they were never entitled to but that was a big part of their undoing and thats when AMERICA FINALY WOKE UP.
That's when I totally woke up.
GO home that where you belong fight your own Government for your rights you have none here why? because America is not responsible for you. You made your choice when you decided to break the law you made this choice for yourself not America you were not Invited here. It is an outrage that you people think that we are responsible for you where not and we never will be. But I will tell you who we are responsible for and that our own. GO MARCH AND SCREAM IN FRONT OF YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT DEMAND YOUR RIGHTS THEIR NOT HERE THEY ARE THE ONE WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU NOT AMERICA. GOD BLESS AMERICA. HAPPY FORTH OF JULY.
GO home that where you belong fight your own Government for your rights you have none here why? because America is not responsible for you. You made your choice when you decided to break the law you made this choice for yourself not America you were not Invited here. It is an outrage that you people think that we are responsible for you where not and we never will be. But I will tell you who we are responsible for and that our own. GO MARCH AND SCREAM IN FRONT OF YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT DEMAND YOUR RIGHTS THEIR NOT HERE THEY ARE THE ONE WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU NOT AMERICA. GOD BLESS AMERICA. HAPPY FORTH OF JULY.
You go you said it all.
I am so happy and that's sad I full agree with the letter they had It coming. Where on earth did these people get the notion that they had rights I just don't get that one. Talk about BALLS you sneak into a country and break their laws and then have the sheer audacity to riot for rights that in no way your ENTILTED to. I was Laughing when I heard that the Capitol switch board nearly blew up Thursday morning the Sergeant of Arms got in touch with the Senators right away and stated that the American people were hopping mad THEY HAD IT COMING ALRIGHT.
You are so funny I also found it very amusing I know a lot of of people did. They said that poor Sargent of Arms got that Information over to the Senate pronto, That switch board will never be the same.
You hit the Nail right on the head as well as they had It coming.
WAY TO GO AMERICA! Man, .. it sure feels good to see the people of this great country become united! Thank you for standing up and being counted. God bless you all.
Shark We did It This is our Land not the INVADERS they now know exactly what their rights are and that's great.
May God bless this great land , To they had It coming what you state In your post is accurate they sure got what they deserved ...........
But now these people are going to get their rights their going to be DEPORTED and that's what they DESERVE. HOW dare they break into a country and FREE LOAD and then have the NERVE to say poor, poor me these people are takers their DISCUSTING. If you have enough money to send back to Mexico then you have enough money to make your own WAY here. These free loaders just want everything go Home that's where your RIGHTS are.
OH how right you are THE FREE LOADING MAKES ME SICK BUT THEIR PROUD PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT THINK OF TAKING A PENNY YEA RIGHT THEIR MOOCHERS AND THE WELL DRIED UP YEA< YEA
I have seen your post all over the place you are an absolute asshole completely, totally and fully. This is why you GREEDY people went up in SMOKE. Now get it through your free loading head ITS OVER GO HOME AND DEMAND YOUR RIGHTS YOU HAVE NONE HERE AND NEVER EVER WILL. BYE< BYE.
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