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Aug 17, 2007, 7:19 GMT

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krhaelAug 17th, 2007 - 08:04:22

so we let them die in vain? Those rescue workers put their life on the line to save those trapped miners, they go in the job full well knowing the dangers of their task, surely if they were still with us, they'd want us to continue the job, it's ridiculous to stop now.

DON'T STOP! SAVE THE MINERS!

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KenjiAug 17th, 2007 - 08:09:30

I am not 100% confident the Miners Survived since they have gone a while without food or water. But even then. Recovering their bodies is still important. So without a doubt continuing is the only option. It's not a matter of if it is possible. It's a matter of not giving up.

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lillypudAug 17th, 2007 - 10:57:29

quitters never win

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WIDTAPAug 17th, 2007 - 13:47:47

I agree that at least recovering the bodies is important.

I am also concerned, however, that there seems to be some sort of disconnect with the reality of the conditions of that mine. These bumps are not some sort of natural seismic activity. They are what happen when there is too little support, and too much weight on the pillars and floor. The floor suddenly buckles. The pillars explosively fail. The roof falls in. The tunnel collapses.

Doesn't anyone else find it a little suspicious that a week ago several rescuers were reassigned out of the mine because they believed that the conditions were not safe enough and another bump was possible? What about the bump they had in the spring of this year? Why were they working in a section between two collapsed sections without reevaluating the stresses in that section?

The owner of the mine goes on the media and talks about seismic activity, like it was a natural earthquake, and that their plan to remove the existing pillars was approved by the federal agency responsible for mine safety. This seems to me to be a kind of denial that the mining activity is the cause of these two disasters.

Without facing the reality of the situation, and adjusting the recovery plans accordingly, they are in my opinion just inviting a third disaster from a fourth bump at the same mine.

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CynicAug 17th, 2007 - 17:37:44

We lost family in the Victoria Mine disaster (1908)in glasgow Scotland .Oddly enough they carried eighteen empty coffins through Nitshill before burying them in the local graveyard and erected a gravestone with all their names on it.They couldn't recover the bodies either, as firedamp blew the main seam and the winding wheels off the pit top.
The mine remains sealed to this day.
God bless their souls.

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CynicAug 17th, 2007 - 18:07:06

Ah for the wonders of the Internet.
I've always relied on oral family tradition..you know the sort of thing ,stories that you get off your grandparents, anyway I just got a surprise when checking this out online just now.
Victoria Mine.Nitshill,Glasgow , Scotland
It wasn't 1908 but 15th May 1851 .61 dead.
I believe the rest is true.

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VoxAug 17th, 2007 - 21:03:08

These other men should also be willing to die. It's important to save Bush's legacy and to fully credit Bush for seeking Freedom by sending more miners in to die in the unsafe environment created because of Bush policies.

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PaulAug 17th, 2007 - 23:33:03

The gov't does not care about these miners. As long as the gov't receives the tax monies, big business can do anything they want. After all, corporations and gov't are merely quid-pro-quo whorehouses sold to the highest bidder. When the gov't needs illegal wire-taps, Verizon and Sprint allow them secret rooms to listen in on calls. When Haliburton (and KBR) need more revenue, the gov't hands out no-bid contracts. When the gov't dislikes literature, Amazon and Wikipedia ban the book 'America Deceived'. We The People had our gov't sold out from beneath us.

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cynicAug 18th, 2007 - 23:36:49

perhaps its a time to help the families of the miners.We used to do it years ago, but perhaps go thro your local communities but watch for scams.Don't send money online.

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