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Senate rebukes Rush Limbaugh 'phony soldiers' comment
By Karyn Chenoweth Oct 1, 2007, 21:32 GMT
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It is easy to make fun of those who have served by someone who did not serve, and in fact dodged the draft. If his listeners still believe his rants, they deserve him.
Questioning someone's patriotism is a lot easier than addressing a failed war. Limbaugh has been the Tokyo Rose of this administration from day one - not that anyone would question the patriotism of someone puts the interests of the neocons and GOP ahead of his country. LOL
Just another example of misrepresenting what a conservative really said. The joke is on Harry , though because Rush has 3 hours every week day to remind people what he really said/meant. I am so amazed at how the dems can distort things that are so easy to understand.
Seems to me that if Rush was infact talking about one soldier that reported hideous atrocities that he saw being performed by our soldiers in Iraq, that was found later to be a total fake, the dems in congress are fools to be bringing the story up in any way. But then, of course, they can rest assured that our oh so unbiased media won't report anything that may reflect badly on them.
that anyone gives a second to this overblown, egotistical,loudmouth in the first place. Any obese blabbermouth standing at the end of any bar could do what he does only better!
Mr Reid DID NOT fully quote Mr Limbaugh in his letter. How can you criticize what someone said, if you do not offer a direct, word-for-word and complete quote of exactly what was said. I require a full quote of what Mr Limbuagh said, in full context, before I will blindly accept or agree with Mr Reid's comments.
Why would the Libnazis actually represent Rush fairly????
To them Rush is the enemy.
Now, realize that, none of Rush's real listeners will EVER vote democratic. So, no one wil ever be swayed by Reid, of ll people, or any of the others. Rush is not an elected official. He has the same listeners he had when he started.
So why is Rush important enough to pay attention to?
It hardens the left. The first part of an election season is hardening solid support in your own camp, before going out to get the swing vote.
Rush made it too easy for them.
Isn't it interesting ALL the dems who listen to him?
They post detailed excerts of what others have said, but no posting of the actual quote from Rush - poor journalism.
he is such a fake!
This reminds me of when Kerry's joke about ending up in Iraq was taken WAY out of context by the conservatives.
They knew what Kerry meant, but ran with a completely misleading interpretation for political reasons ... Rush was one of the worst in doing so.
I guess Kharma can be a bitch eh?
I think that if you go to Limbaughs site, you'll be able to read the quote. He was referring to a Jessie Macbeth that claimed to have served in Iraq and reported on atrocities atributed to our soldiers there. He also claimed to have gotten a purple heart. What he said was widely reported but it turns out that he served for 44 days,was never in Iraq and didn't get a purple heart. I don't think the stories were retracted. Name calling doesn't get anyone anywhere. If you're liberal, it would serve you well to disprove what the Limbaughs, Hannitys, Coulters etc. have said and written as opposed to calling them names. Fight back with facts.
This site is for comments and people are expressing their dislike and opinions of someone who thinks he is God and has all the answers. He tends to downplay his own questionable past - EOS!
It's simply more effective to back up opinions with facts no?
Not long ago, when John Kerry botched the joke about ending up in Iraq ... clearly meaning Bush ... Rush Limbaugh and others knew exactly what he meant, but took it out of context and ran with a purposely misleading distortion saying Kerry was talking about the troops, not the president..
In fact Rush was one of the worst in doing it.
Now Rush is getting a bit of his own medicine ... I guess kharma is a bitch. And Rush hasn't earned my sympathy.
When is this creature going to go away? He's as worthless as Ann Coulter with his hate filled drivel, and primitive views. What a sad waste of human life to be the way he is.
Limbaugh is an egomaniac addict made wealthy by a bunch of angry imbeciles who listen to him. Nothing more. Overpaid and overfed.
It's not the first time Rush has had foot-in-mouth disease, and won't be the last. The bigots who support him admire him for it.
I have never seen such a blatant and well-crafted lie made by democrats with the pure intent of smearing someone. What is worse is the willingness of their constituents to be misled.
Do you notice how Reuters gives the 'full transcript' of the comments against Rush, but conveniently omit the 'full transcript' of Rushs own words? Have any of you liberals seen what Limbaugh actually said? It had nothing to do with our troops. It actually has to do with more lies from the left.
The 'phony soldier' that Limbaugh referred to is Jesse MacBeth.....whom the left held up as a war hero, and the guy was never even near Iraq.
Our illustrious senators (and their followers) have no idea what Rush even said. Is that what you call 'progressive?'
Dont like Rush? Thats fine, argue his points, disagree with him, but why do you insist on destroy the person like you did with Petraeus? If any of you ever listend to Limbaugh, you would hear someone who defends our troops daily against the negative remarks democrats make every day about them and war they have been fighting to win.
Go ahead...if you want the truth, do a simple search for Limbaughs actual words, and then read this article again and you will see the lies of your elected leaders.
GO KEN! Also, kudos for not sinking to nastiness and name calling as the two responses before you did. Don't expect them to research anything-people like that seldom do. God bless America and our troops.
Agree Kathy. Look at those two remarks, notice how they attack the person, and not even try to find out both sides of the issue?
First comment:
'When is this creature going to go away? He's as worthless as Ann Coulter with his hate filled drivel, and primitive views. What a sad waste of human life to be the way he is.'
Hmmmmmm......Hate filled drivel? Primitive views? Creature? Worthless? Waste? Tori, are your own comments 'love filled' and 'intelligent'?
Next comment:
'Limbaugh is an egomaniac addict made wealthy by a bunch of angry imbeciles who listen to him.' 'The bigots who support him admire him for it.'
Imbiciles? Bigots? This is 'progressive' and 'tolerant' thinking? If so, I dont want it. Maybe when I was in middle school I was a progressive liberals, because that is when we did this kind of name calling. Then I was taught to disagree with the opinion, and respect the person.
I guess I will never be progressive......I can disagree with liberals' views and opinions, but have no need call them names.
While you're so busy commenting on the two posts before yours ...
Are you trying to imply that you've never heard Rush call people names?
Geez ...
( ... and why don't you mention how Rush purposely distorted Kerry's comment about getting stuck in Iraq a while back - when Kerry clearly meant Bush, and not the troops, as Rush spun it ad nauseum. Why weren't you screaming for accuracy then?)
Tell the truth, I've been trying to find out just what Kerry said and there seems to be 2 distinct versions-the left version and the right version. Don't really know enough about the situation to comment so I won't. By the way Ken, I call liberals many vile names but I have the class to at least keep them in my head.
Please, take the time to read Kerry's comments on what he said re: 'getting stuck in Iraq' ... just as you've taken the time to read Rush's comments on what he said.
I have ... and if you look at it honestly, you'll see that Rush did to Kerry, what he (and you) are saying others are currently doing to Rush.
re: your comment ...' I call liberals many vile names ...'
Then please don't be 'holier than thou' here ... the right is just as bad as the left in that regard.
I have to laugh when I hear the right accuse the left of hatred ... the hipocrisy is purely laughable.
And I'm sure you'll admit that you and Ken both have learned many vile names to call liberals from Rush on his radio show ... I've personally heard it countless times. Countless.
So please, get off the high horse ... neither side is clean of name calling and 'vile' attacks.
Rush is truly getting a dose of his own medicine with this ... he's done it many times to others.
What you see in these posts is telling.
Limbaugh, on his site, anyway, had good reason to say what he said, about who he refered to.
For this, he was pilloried not for what he said, but for what the libnazis WANTED him to say.
This is because they are so used ot only ansering the questions they WISHED they were asked, not the one's they are frequently asked.
The church-of-the-divine-libnazi needs a scalp and Rush's is a good one. They have sent their inquisitors and their minions, the libnazi press, to torture him.
So be it. He's a big boy and he KNOWS this is good, not bad for him.
As much as I cannot stand talk radio and biased press, it does serve a purpose.
in post to Kathy hipocrisy should be 'hypocrisy'
Tell me where to look for Kerry's direct quote-and please, no Daily Kos or move on. Some site that's not biased in either direction would be refreshing. But keep in mind that Limbaugh makes no bones about being a conservative broadcaster. It's his job. He has never run for public office and doesn't present himself as being a journalist. He doesn't claim to be unbiased. And as for vile names kept inside the head as opposed to spewing out the mouth or pen, I believe there's a big difference.
SP4 is a clear example of vile name calling coming from the right.
In his above post he says 'The church-of-the-divine-libnazi...' (actually he's made these types of comments on here too many times to count ... SP4 is known on here for his hatred)
See ... the hatred and name calling lives on both sides ... it's neither a left only, or right only thing.
Come on folks, let's not stoop to attacking typos.
You can google 'Kerry stuck in Iraq' and find many articles to read on it ...
Read the ones that have Kerry's explanation, not some commentor with an agenda.
re: the typos ... I posted that myself as a correction.
Kathy if you're gonna make excuses for Rush calling people names, as if it's OK for him to do it, then don't criticize those on here for doing the same thing.
If you think it's ok for Rush to do it, you should think it's ok for others to do it too ... even if they aren't politically aligned with you.
If you don't ... then that would be clearly hypocritical on your part.
I'm gonna do that and wouldn't be at all surprised if you're right about the Kerry quote. By the way, I'm not the one that made the typo (although I admit it would be like me). Afraid I must sign off now as I'm a good little conservative and must make dinner for my husband (by the way, I'm a heck of a cook). Have a lovely evening to all and it's been great fun getting to know ya.
Do you actually equate a US Senator to the level of a radio talk show host? That because a radio talk show host does it, it is ok for Democratic US Senators to do it?
I can understand Rush Limbaugh being compared to another talk show host such as Al Franken, but a US Senator?
And no, I dont use name calling, have never called any liberal an 'imbicile' or 'creature' or 'waste of human life' or 'bigot' or 'betray us' or anything else, nor will I ever.
My question about the use of those names was directed to another poster who in fact, did use those terms, in place of responding to the article in a manner worth debating.
Unlike the days when the truth was easily suppressed, those who seek the truth today can easily find it.
Shame to those of you who choose to chastise and convict a person because of heresay and you don't even take the time to research what was actually said.
Remember what they say about what goes around. You might end up with a jury of your own shameful peers one day and face conviction on heresay.
We all heard Kerry and there was no mistaking what he meant. he insinuated that if you fail in school, you'll end up in the military.
The liberal elite holds the military in contempt. It has since Vietnam, and always will. Kerry is the poster boy for it. This is because they refuse to acknowledge that it was actually a liberal who escalated the Vietnam conflict.
If it's wrong for a Senator to do it because the premise in the 'distortion' spreads misinformation ...
Then it's also wrong for Rush to do it as well ...
It's still spreading misinformation and purposeful distortions.
In this case, Rush is getting what he's been handing out for sometime ... I don't feel sorry for him. Not one bit.
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re: your comment ... 'My question about the use of those names was directed to another poster who in fact, did use those terms'
You made comments directed at all liberals, and progressives ... read your own words. (esp last 2 paragraphs)
My reply was to point out that both sides do it ...
SP4 still goes on with the misinterpretation of Kerry's comments.
He wants me to accept Rush's explanation for his words here, but SP4 refuses to accept Kerry's explanation for his words then ... SP4 would rather accept a commentor who twists it to what SP4 really wants to hear.
I'll admit that's what's happening with Rush ... but it also happened with Kerry - and that was done BY Rush.
I have no sympathy for him.
Can anyone out there sell me some Percs?
Did the senate rebuke Dan Rather for that concocted document on Bush, on the eve of an election?
Rush can stick his head up his ass!
Hmmmmmmmm, rush limbaugh, isn't he the cretin who made fun of the way a parkinson's patient wobbled when he talked?
did rush limbaugh really refer to a soldiers speech as 'drivel'? ...him?
Hmmmmmm...rush limbaugh...isn't he that fair-minded american who for years lobied for harsher and harsher punishment for drug addicts ( 'they deserve no pitty'.., etc., etc.) while he wept openly in court and begged for ( are you ready?) mercy and PITTY!?
Good work SP4, Keep after these fake USA hater terror deniers. Global warming is a hoax.These libs are desperate,especially the ones that claim to be outside the USA and are fakes.
I like Old Oil Spin that has bad grammar.Old like before 2004.Pete,Jim,Tonni,Fred,Fool on the hill,Pete...They are all the same person.
Don't sweat it sp4. As usual the bottom line is that any and everyone who has come after Rush about that particular issue did not actually hear what he said. They just get in line and sing from the same sheet of music.
I am Retired Navy and was part of desert storm and I listen to rush alot,
to say that Rush doesn't support our troops is like saying George Washington wasn't American, It just isn't true. oh yea, and unlike Harry Reid, George Washington doesn't lie.
I agree that Rush Limpbaugh is an egotistical, overweight know-it-all, I-can-do-no-wrong motormouth, but that's my general opinion - not an opinion on his 'soldier' remark. These kinds of remarks by anyone in the public eye are always blown way out of proportion, and given much more press than they deserve. It's just another example of them speaking before their brain (if they have one) can catch up, but he is probably just loving the extra attention. And why does there have to be an explanation for a particular statement of someone's opinion, Kathy?
I think dear old Kathy must be on Limpbaugh's staff!
Anyone from the 60's knows EXACTLY what Kerry meant:
'cram, cram, for that exam, or you'll get sent to Vietnam!' a popular limrick of the times
What did you think, we were born yesterday?
and how about earlier conflicts - get to college or get married to avoid the draft..........
The whole deal about Kerry blew his remarks out of proportion. Kerry is not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I dont believe his intent was to mock the troops. It should be obvious that he was making a jab at Bush.
In the same light, anyone who knows Limbaugh, would know he is pro-troop. There is no way he would knock the troops. Do your homework and find out what he was talking about. He spoke of an actual 'phony' soldier, Jesse MacBeth, whom the left held up as a hero. He was no hero. He was never in Iraq. He was indeed a phony soldier. This man and any like him, who were never in Iraq are who Rush was talking about.
To say that Rush is anti troop is the equivelant to saying Hillary is anti-socalized health care.
Do your homework folks and think for yourselves, dont go in blind faith beleiving what anyone tells you...be it Bush, Limbaugh, Kerry, or Media Matters.
Hey Ken and Kathy. I give love and respect when deserved. If you don't deserve it, you get stomped on like the 'worthless creature' you are. Maybe the two of you should go play huggy kissie with Rush?
Hate all you want but atleast quote him word for word then you can judge what he was really saying. The dem's that are making this into something are just tryin a deversion tactic to draw the attention away from there own disgraceful comments. Harry Reid sickens me!!! By the way.....try to get your news from a more creditable source then mediamatters. Stop just blindly following what one website takes out of context try doing some actual factual research.
Mr. Reid and all of you, who agree with this campaign against a private citizen, come on... quit wasting my money.
Everyone understands those who speak the loudest usually are the ones who have an issue that needs to be dealt with. I for one am tired of the constant negative ranting that come out of your mouth.
When will your state and our nation hear or see anything positive from you and your liberal friends? It's OK to be a liberal, but let's be a liberal that represents action that provides positive pro-active good results for all to appreciate.
One might ask, is that possible??? I submit and say, take a look at Senator Joe Lieberman. Now there’s a liberal you can respect!!! Yes you too can be respected too!!
I say, if you can't bring out the good through the promotions of positive change, then you need to step down. Your constant negative approach and continuous slanderous accusations of our President and now a private citizen is intolerable and un-American.
Your actions makes one wonder, do you really understand what America is all about? Do you really think that America is not listening and see what you are all about? Or do you think you are above all of us. I submit, you are sadly mistaken.
It's just another example of the liberal media and politicians spreading feces in order to galvanize resistance against the conservative media.
Limbaughs comments were clear.
Re your comment: 'I for one am tired of the constant negative ranting that come out of your mouth.'
Today Rush said 'Liberals have a Stalinistic Attitude' (I personally heard it myself just minutes ago)
Can you see how divisive that is? ... Rush teaches his audience to hate Libs using hate speach of his own.
He's convinced people like you that we are 'evil people'.
How do you respond when you hear Libs call conservatives Nazis?
Should we feel that Rush's slander of 'Stalinistic' is somehow above the mudslinging?
Rush is probably the most prolific and hateful name-caller out there ... conservative or liberal.
Why don't you chastize him for that?
When it comes to abusive attacks, Conservatives should look in their own backyard as well. (i.e. Rush, Coulter, O'Reilly, Hannity, Savage etc)
In response to 'To Freedom Toll'…. When Government starts to debate and ultimately decide what we can say and what we cannot, our freedom as we know and appreciate is in jeopardy. It's not the label(s), it's what is being debated and represented by our governing officials.
I have to agree the mudslinging needs to stop as this will lead to an unfavorable demise for all.
What is being promoted hear is that we need government to stop spending our time and tax dollars on mudslinging efforts and start concentrating their efforts towards the good of our nation as a whole. We’re all Americans who enjoy the greatest country in the world.
All of the conservatives mentioned by “To Freedom Toll” are not an elected official in our government and are free to speak as they will. At least this is the America I am from. After all they’re not spending my tax dollars and wasting my time on the senate floor.
Let’s all agree – we need a positive movement in our country and this should be represented by our Senators and Representatives in Government at all levels. I’ll put my money (tax dollars) on positive pro-active efforts before mudslinging.
Who knows what this positive movement will be... it could be as simple as saying, 'I'm OK, You're OK' as the old book title reads.
I agree fully with your comments and appreciate your post. There is far too much name calling, smearing, etc done from both sides. Another poster mentioned the same thing.
I rarely, if ever, listen to Rush for that reason. He is no better or worse than his opponents. Sometimes he makes some points, but responses like todays 'stalin' attacks only puts him in the same childish level as his accusers. There are better programs that actually discuss issues without the name calling. The name calling, as seen in the responses to this article, is in place of intelligent discussion. Who cares what Kerry said? Who cares what Limbaugh said? 'Betray us' is another example of an attack on soldiers. Disagree with his report? Fine, but why the incessant need to rip apart a military servant? Both sides are equally guilty.
Is anyone capable of intelligent discussion of real issues anymore? We have ongoing trouble in Iraq who wont get their act together. We have a problem with border security and illegal immigration. Taxes are still a burden to most Americans, health care costs are still rising, our prisons are overloaded, and the best anyone can do is call each other 'worthless creatures', 'nazis', and 'stalins' and whatever else is flying around out there?
Are intelligent discussions and bipartisan solutions at all possible anymore? Or shall we all just stoop to a primitive level of insults and attacks, and by doing so, prove we are no better than Rush Limbaugh, Media Matters, et al?
Why is everyone arguing about this so-called name calling? It's not name calling if it's a description of the person or their personality. Fact of the matter is, Limbaugh is a foul mouthed individual, and some posters here are flinging it right back in his face. What he said was wrong, and inflammatory, all he wanted was attention, let's quit giving it to him.
Amen to that!!
Rush is on Armed Forces Radio ... that's American Tax payer funded.
Should we be paying for him to spread his hatred to our troops (i.e calling us 'Stalinistic') with our tax dollars?
The big question is how did someone of his ilk get a program in the first place?? As for his ranting on about whatever comes to mind - his brain cells were probably deformed by his past drug use!
Since when is Armed Forces Radio an elective arm of the government?
Again, I'm not trying to point the finger - It's time we stop the mudslinging and start concentrating on things that really matter - Like our boarders, Health care, the war and terrorism, and our own internal issues we need to deal with in our own states and communities.
Ken - above said it better than me.
From your previous post ' ...we need government to stop spending our time and tax dollars on mudslinging'
So I'll ask you again Freedom Toll ...
Do you think it's fair to have our tax payer money pay for Rush to be on Armed Forces Radio?
(Personally, I strongly object to my tax payer money being spent to air Rush's political hatred and mudslinging ... i.e. calling us 'Stalinistic')
Anyone else care to share your views?
I think that our Senator Reid should stop wasting our money on this type of crap and get to work on the countries Business
lower our taxes
and get off our backs
what is the Definition of free healthcare will that mean the people working to give it will not be paid and the buildings and equipment come without charge ???
Fact is: it is irresistably clear that Rush was speaking of true phony soldiers (most certainly not of anyone who served) and not speaking of our soldiers employed in the Iraq war. He was not at all directing his coment to our troops of any opinion.
This is a long shot by people who continue to show there incompetence even in a smear attempt! It just greatly lowered my respect for thier abilities to lead! All who signed such a bogus letter! I can only respct them as fellow citizens and the fact that they are also human, but to have such in any capacity, directing the affairs of this country is a very serious situation to think of! Down-right scary!
Some of these people running for president are void of good judgement and common sense.
I do not have the time to listen to talk shows very often, but it so obvious that the signers of this letter shot a flaming arrow at themselves. Imagine them in control of our nation so threatened as it now is! Imagine them in control of making serious financial decisions. Wow!
God help us all!
SP4...of course you support this misguided pile of neo-con crap. 90% of the stuff out of his mouth is technically wrong (as it is with you) but he is loving all this press. He could not care less about anything but the money. He did not serve, dodged the draft and has the guts (lots of them) to be critical of those who do---is that your problem also????
It's scary that people like Limbaugh
are on the radio, and the truth gets drowned out
in the sea of crap that he spews.
Soldiers who speak out should be applauded
not slapped down and humiliated.
-The NY times runs an article today 10/3/07
about torture and i am fuming that the Whitehouse
has gotten away with everything they have done.
It's disturbing that Congress sits back and
is not doing anything about it.
I'm tired of Republican fundraisers
that get these guys re-elected.
-Mr.Bush
Why wait the 455 days left of your term?
Step down now, nobody will really care anyway
your party hates you,
Democrats hate you
Your damage is done here, sir.
now go off and run a small business in Texas
and leave us all alone.
Thanks,
John
He's so full of himself - thus the bloated body!
Bush has made huge progress in 7 years.
Our economy is one of the most dynamic and resilient in the world. We enjoy record employment, low inflation, record tax revenue. Our stock market just hit it's all time high, a definite sign of investor confidence. This was due to his risk taking and lowering taxes, stimulating huge growth and record tax receipts after 9/11. he has gotten Cafta passed, with all it's attending benefits to all parties.
Bush has gotten Libya to cede it's nuke program, surrender it's material. He has gotten N. Korea to the bargaining table and help clean up the mess made by his predecessor there. He has brought scrutiny to the UN, that unreformed, bureaucratic, world class mess that it deserved.
He deposed Saddam, and freed 50 million people, who were the victims of one of the most ruthless totalitarian entites in history.
By every measure, he has performed well.
His political enemies greenlighted a war for no other reason than to weaken his reelection (how'd that work?) and undermine his efforts every single day, prolonging the suffering of those they purport to help. They have no belief they can openly talk about, and resort to distort a person like Rush Limabaugh's comments for cheap transient politcal gain.
This is the true face of the democratic party. They cannot stand on what they believe because everyone would then know. Their front runner candidate has produced scandal after scandal i.e. white house travel office/vince foster/FBI records scandal/white water / chinese and russian campaign funds (1 and 2) scandal / law office records scandal and the Tyson commodity trades scandal. She exemplifies the fact that democrats could never stand the scrutiny they would have republicans live up to.
So go your way.
SP4...I figured out who you are. You are Karl Rove, otherwise you could not possibly believe all the BS you say??? Come on admit it Karl, you are bored so you spend your time on this board..
Nasty adjectives thrown out on this site by libs-overblown-egotistical-fake-creature-worthless-sad waste of human life-ego mania addict-angry imbeciles-overpaid, overfed bigots-cretin-egotistical overweight know it all-motermouth-worthless creature-foul mouthed individual-misguided pile of neocrap. Nasty adjectives thrown out by the conservatives-fools-libnazis-libnazis-libnazi-libnazi-fakes. Yup, both sides are name callers all right. Go on Tonny, find the words from the right that I missed, or better yet make some up.
Carefull Kathy,you are a bit short on arguments there ,insults are for the weak.
Those are still the facts, Jack. The economy IS good. Bush DID all those things.
The libnazis would hate him for no other reason than he is a republican, but they still feel he got into power illegally, even though the highest court in the land would disagree with them. If they had refused. The US house would have decided. Either way, he won.
All the silly election-fix urban legends simply feed the fire, and that is fine by me.
Wow! Kathy has a serious anger problem doesn't she Tonny? I'm finding it fascinating how many of this type of person Rush has brought out of the woodwork. And I'm going to state it one more time: It's not name calling Kathy if it's a description of the person and their personality. It's simply the truth.
Whatever side of politics you are on, I wonder if anyone here can filter what they hear and make decisions about people and issues for themselves, rather than just blindly follow what everyone else says. Liberals will twist a Conservatives words into something they didnt mean, Conservatives are do the same with Liberals. Neither is any better or worse than the other.
If you have your own mind, and are honest with yourself, you've got to question the people on both sides. If you want the truth, think for yourselves about issues instead of focusing on what everyone else says.
Liberals assert that Limbaugh wrongly twisted Kerrys 'education' statement. After making it, Kerry qualified his statement as a botched statement. While I personally am glad he is not in office, I was disgusted with how Bush and Limbaugh were saying that Kerry, a soldier himself, would knock the troops. It was obvious he was not knocking the troops.
Liberals were right about that issue...Limbaugh was wrong and went overboard in his assertions and attacks on Kerry.
But now the shoe is on the other foot for both Limbaugh as well as for you liberals. You are saying that Limbaugh meant one thing, and that even his explanation is a lie. So, its ok to believe Kerry, but not Limbaugh?
Can anyone here, left or right, lib or con, think for themselves, research for themselves, and come to your own honest conclusions? Or do you think your side is always innocent and that all of your leaders and media reps all tell the full, honest, unbiased truth about the opposition?
Its easy to distort Kerrys statement out of context and insert an untruthful explanation of what he meant:
'You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.'
He's not 'knocking' the troops. He knows what he said and what he meant, he just botched his words, it didnt come out right, he explained it as a botched Bush joke, and that should be the end of it.
But Limbaugh was psychic and thinks he knew what Kerry said better than Kerry knew. But, now Liberals are stepping down to Limbaughs level with untruthful explanations. Here are Limbaughs easy-to-distort words:
'CALLER 2: No, it's not, and what's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.
LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.
CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve.'
Limbaugh explained his statement as a reference to Jesse MacBeth, who posed as a war hero and was later proven as a liar. But now Liberals have Limbaughs psychic ability to know exactly what he was thinking and they have decided he was NOT referring to Jesse MacBeth. They believe Kerry and not Limbaugh.
Does everyone just blindly follow Media Matters and Rush Limbaugh and just accept everything they say about each other? Do you think only your opinions and view count and that you are better than everyone with an opposing view?
Cmon, think for yourselves. Dont be blinded by Limbaugh, Media Matters, Coulter, Franken, or whoever. Get rid of the hate for each other and choose to think independently about what is being purported in the media.
A segment of America is media savvy. This is not who they are aiming at, is it?
About 8 million people affect a national election. This is the goal, to get these folks rolling over.
Rush is a big boy and he, of all people, knew the consequences. If the democrats want to get in a fight with someone who has a microphone, so be it.
I am appalled at the way the democrats have twisted this story. It is clear that Rush was talking about someone who claimed to have witnessed war crimes but in fact never did. But the lies that have spewed forth from Reid and others are truly Hitlerian! Yes, I question the patriotism of those who would lie in such a manner-- they are NOT Americans in the decent and honorable sense of the word. And to do this a few days after the Petraeus/Betray Us scandal-- during which the liberals said nothing-- is an assault on the mind of anyone who is decent and truthful! I will never ever vote for a democrat again as long as I live, and I truly regret that I ever supported any of them if this is what we get!
Rush was commenting on the wounded Iraq vet who appears in the ads condemning his phony soldiers comment. ( Brian McCough, a real wounded Iraq vet who publicly opposes the war )
Rush compared him to a suicide bomber. ! ! ! ! !
Saying Libs “had strapped ‘lies to his belt, sending him out via the media in a TV ad to walk into as many people as he can walk into.’”
(those were his actual words ... look it up)
Comparing a wounded vet to a suicide bomber??!!! Outrageous!!
Keep speaking Rush ... you're showing yourself for what you really are.
(P.S. For those who don't know it, Rush avoided the draft during Vietnam because he had a bad pimple on his ass ... draw your own conclusions)
Brian McCough should be spelled Brian McGough
For Sparky and all the other democrats here, since many liberals love talking down about people, perhaps you all would appreciate this quote from a great woman and great Democrat.....Eleanor Roosevelt.
'Great minds discuss ideas ....
Average minds discuss events ...
Small minds discuss people.'
Eleanor Roosevelt
most of them he's never met, or asked a question.
hush limboned. raging racist. overfed. oxycotin. redneck revenger. tub of lard. larder is empty. brain fried on hillbilly heroin. send young to die for the fat, the diseased, the old, the haters. hate your enemy, said Thy Lordeth. abandon all hope, ye who worship all things neoconned. the death of the republic hurts to those who didn't kill it.
'Thats all Rush does is talk about people'
'rush limboned, etc etc etc.
Eleanor Roosevelt was right: 'Little minds discuss people'
Forget about discussing issues, you guys keep those people discussions coming and keep talking about Rush...........
And the *&%@ is laughing all the way to the bank - he could care less about anyone's opinion - he can't hear for his big mouth spewing out!
'Small minds talk about people'
I was talking about gossip mongers dear. Not retired psychologists analyzing angry people.
When will these people learn? Anyone seen what else was said?
Here's another attack on soldiers......
'There is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the – of – the historical customs, religious customs'
Ok Tonny, Sparky, whoever the hell you are. An anger probelem? Yeah maybe. I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth as I suspect you were. I had a baby when I planned to have a baby-it's called birth control. I've worked hard in a male dominated society and have managed to make something of myself. So do I get angry when left leaners want me to pay for others mistakes-mistakes that I somehow managed not to make? Yeah, I do.
For anyone to believe that Rush was attacking our military, you need to go back to school and get an education. People that 'sumize' talk shows from what other people fabricate from them, are no better of a person than a failure in life. I happen to listen to the show and his reference was not about our 'Phony Military' In fact, Rush supports the military, more than I can say any of those whiners and non supporters do. If you say you listened to the show, then you ahd your ears closed. Rush mentioned that the 'Phony Soldiers' and to clarify that for you, 'wanna-be-soldiers' are contacting the media and the media take their word as the truth. Want to attack someone. Attack the media that ran the phony story on what our honorable military is doing in Iraq. Last I remeber, if you 'join the military' you may go to war. I would challenge anyone to bring a handful of 'Real Military Personel' currently in Iraq, and have them say they are against this war. For those in the military that would oppose it, they are cowards anyway and are stupid for joining a military organization. Phony Solidiers are our there, the same as Phony Police Officers. Some people like to think they are in a power above others and like to see their name in lights. If that is the type of person you want defending your backside, go support them. It appears you are anyway.
Honestly, if we live in a country of free speech, Rush is entitled to say anything he wants. What really is the problem is the way the Dems keep coming back with the plan to censor everything that Conservatives say, but it rarely is a 2-way street. What about the comments of our wonderful senators calling the soldiers murderers and rapists? What about the Reid comments that the war is already lost? Who is calling for Harry Reid to have his mouth taped shut? I cannot agree with anyone's blatant verbal attacks when the aim is for personal political gain. But I am so sick and tired of the Dems 'fairness' doctrine when it is only fair to them. I'm sick and tired of the endless back-stabbing and taking words out of context -- whatever the case here, if the libs are uncensored for their rancorous language, why should Rush be? No wonder we are so sick of our government -- if this is what Congress is doing with their time in Washington, I want to know what we're paying them for?
'ask my colleagues, Democrat and Republican alike, to join together against this irresponsible, hateful, and unpatriotic attack by calling upon Rush Limbaugh to give our troops the apology they deserve.”
You really need to do your homework befor you make complete backside our of yourself. It appears you heard only what you wanted to hear. If you think I would join together with a person who thinks and add responses as you do, think again. I don't join losers.
You know for all the blustering over this all I can say is that Rush has been on the air for almost 20 years now and is still strong. Air America lasted not even 2 years and where are they now?
You see, shrill turns people off. Factual conversation draws an audience.
MoveOn.org, MediaMatters, etc. pick and choose what they like and use it to hate and attack. Simply put progressives just hate they do not accept or show compassion. Compassion to a progressive is just for show.
Of course Rush is still strong - he brings out a certain element of society, and I'm not giving credit to them!
With regard to freedom of speech, every priviledge carries accountability. In the case of Mr. Limbaugh, he has probably received as much grace in the public review of his comments as he extends to others.
This is ridiculous. ABC brought up the phony soliders story. He gave his view point, which is his job, and called one solider and those who are doing what this fake is doing phonies...not all soldiers. What I find ridiculous too is the dems (not all of them) will sit around and call soldiers muderers, but have the gull to jump on Rush (who shows his care for troops in many ways) saying he's calling all soldiers fake. They just want to take the spot light off of their failures and what they say to someone else. No one is falling for it. To be honest, I don't even know why this is an issue. ABC brought up the story, not rush, and there are senators defending him! But I guess the dems are allowed to waste time and money on this and not get called on the carpet for it. Well except the fact that they have the lowest approval rating of all time, I guess they thought this waste of time would help them.
The comments made by Rush Limbaugh concerning the soldiers opposed to the war are not clearcut .Open to interpretation I'd say ,and that is exactly what happened .Drawing the wrong conclusion from ambiguous statements is at best a mistake .But the character assassination and slander that Rush Limbaugh has often used ,are even less justifiable .What happened to Bill Clinton with the Lewinsky hiccup was for more damaging ,the consequences of such a trifle were blown up into a stinking nauseous fart by Limbaugh and the rest of the neocons .Allow me at least to think;Good heavens Rush LImbaugh,you received a cookie from your own dough.
Rusky Limbag is an uneducated twit looking for more attention in the big man's world of politics. This high school educated??, puffed out chest, who finds his information on the internet without checking his sources, is a self-righteous, self-serving, windbag. He spouts off as if we are supposed to believe 'what I've said 'cause I speak the honest to God's truth.' He doesn't deserve my precious time.
I listened to his show one time for 20 mins. As someone has already mentioned here -- what a bunch of drivel, but he did a good job of hiding his drug addiction for years while he was spouting off on his show about our high school students and how mannnnnnnnnnnnny are druggies.
I think he needs to go to Iraq and be imbedded with the troops for about 6 mos. And, if we are so lucky to get rid of him for 6 mos., then ship him off to Siberia for another vacation.
I am not a Rush Limbaugh fan and am neither a democrat or republican but am a disappointed american. the dems have no problems with any of their senators or congressman going to other countries (especially those known to ally with terrorists) and blasting our troops, slandering our president and slandering our countries actions but will jump all over something as trivial as this just to make themselves look better or so they think. this current president and administration have made mistakes but more so than ever, when we need to be united, but all they are interested in is making themselves appear as they are going to do what the 'people want' just so they can get elected.
the democratic congress hasn't accomplished anything except creating bills and legislation they know won't get approved just because it makes them look better or so they think. they also seem to have a habit of only providing 1/2 truths such as this situation with limbaugh - they need to stop talking and get to work if they plan on accomplishing anything. its hard to trust people who talk out of both sides of their mouth!
Step away from the drugs, Rush, and fellow right wing dopes
I like Shelby's comments :>
totally phony soldier is George Bush. He's the guy who will always 'hold your coat' while you fight his wars. He calls that *helping Bush style*.
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