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SP4:I know what you mean!Nov 16th, 2007 - 18:28:22

CBS concocted some story about a phoney document on Bush's National Guard service! Where was the outrage on that?

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laNov 16th, 2007 - 18:41:42

SP4: bush sucks and you know it.

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MartyNov 16th, 2007 - 18:58:43

I see some Jewish groups are trying to get Ron Paul to publicly distance himself from neo-nazis. This is just a smear ploy by the JDL to promote guilt by association . They don't like the fact that Israel would not call all the shots for Paul if elected. It's like asking someone to go on camera and say 'I am not a child molester' then everyone thinks 'thats weird why would he bring that up if he's not a child molester'. Sneaky smeary stuff.

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CDuffieldNov 16th, 2007 - 19:06:11

I know what you mean. Neocon radio hacks are reading smear pieces which are growing in number. They have passed the ignore and laugh stage and have entered the attack mode, which excites me, because that means Paul is gaining momentum. Paul supporters are disproving every lie at breakneck speed because of the internet and passionate 'boots on the ground.' It has leveled the playing field. Ron Paul's secret weapon is 'the people' who are tired of the tyranical two party system. The final phase is that we will win.

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David AllenNov 16th, 2007 - 19:12:40

The FED is getting nervous about the exposure of its fraud. Free citizens can use ANY currency or item for a medium of exchange. The FED desires to continue their wicked monopoly over the people of this nation. The FED is a private corporation. How would anyone feel if any other private corporation stole these items? The perpetrators would be in jail for theft, but what about the criminals in this case? Since the love of money is the root of all evil, look at the FED for the root.

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markNov 16th, 2007 - 19:19:15

help debunk Ron Paul myths @ ronpaulmyths.blogspot.com/

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VOTENov 16th, 2007 - 19:24:55

****************Ron Paul******************

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SuperannuatedNov 16th, 2007 - 19:51:43

Why should Ron Paul distance himself from any American? He wants to serve as President of a free people.

White Supremacists, anti-Semites, war-mongers, homophobes, etc. are citizens. The Constitution of the United States describes their rights just as it describes yours or mine. The 14th Amendment to the Constitution says, 'No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.'

Racists have voted in previous elections. Politicians who enjoyed their support in the past were not called upon to cast them out. In fact there was overt pandering to them. Remember Willie Horton? Who are the Fascists endorsing this time around? Few candidates are making them unwelcome.

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Cleaner44Nov 16th, 2007 - 20:31:16

The smears will continue as the corupt feel their grip slipping. Ron Paul is now a 'top tier' candidate. His campaign is growing faster than the smears. I have gathered the evidence of his progress and created a website.
Please visit www.thecaseforronpaul.com and judge for yourself.

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Matthew Orlando, FL USANov 16th, 2007 - 21:39:37

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”Mahatma Gandhi

The more crazy things get in this country, and the world, the more the steady hand of Ron Paul's message will take on a life of it's own. Because it's the thing that binds this country together, each one of us no matter race, religon, or sex. It's about the rule of law, The Constitution. From our borders to civil liberty's and rights our laws aren't being enfoced by the people in washington that we have intrusted and they are putting them above us We the People. They are wasting our money and on a war that isn't lawful as well as the FED. If this contines he will win!

Can you say President Ron Paul?

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Ron Paul appeals to nuts.Nov 16th, 2007 - 21:46:28

The folks at M&C have given up on the veneer of objectivity on this one. Good of you to come up with a Ron Paul Press release.

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HaleNov 16th, 2007 - 22:18:03

I am a member of one of Ron Paul's largest Meetup groups. We did a poll asking how many supporters were NOT republican and voted for a non-republican candidate.

Right now the poll shows that just over 50% of RP supporters voted for someone other than Bush in 2004 and were previously non-Republicans.

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jkm1864Nov 16th, 2007 - 22:50:57

What these idiots don't realise is Americans are tired of what America has become. Yeah I might be a zealot but I am passionate about everything in my life including my job, my child, my wife and my freedom. Is anyone else in this country any different? People need to take a look around them a real hard look. We have not had a focus for our anger in this country for a long time so we have put the blame on where it doesnt belong such as people of different color or nationalities. I really think that the message will spread like wild fire and You will see whites, blacks, muslims, christians, straights, gays, abortionist, anti abortionist, and many other people getting hosed, arrested, & dogged like the blacks were in the 60's. We need to wake up the middle class is chaffed and burnt we have lost all hope. We have been triple taxed to support a nation that does not represent us or support us. So I say flame me laugh at me because in the end the world see's whats going on.

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SylviaNov 16th, 2007 - 22:52:34

RON PAUL IS THE MAN FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!! You can tell RON PAUL is getting
a lot of support of from military, young, middle age and the elderly. You
can also tell RON PAUL is the democrats and republicans worst nightmare. When RON PAUL is a threat, that means he is gaining too many supporters.
The democrats and republicans should fear RON PAUL. If he told the american
people what really goes on in Washington, the american people would literally throw each and every IDIOT in Washington out in the streets. The
american people are very angry. VOTE FOR RON PAUL.....He has my vote.....

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JasonNov 16th, 2007 - 23:08:23

Individual rights which are found to be self evident. Looking at people in groups is the problem. Recognize individual civil liberties and the need for group association is irrelavent. THis means no matter who you are or what you believe, your rights are protected. Everyone is born different and has different beliefs and more than likely raised in different settings. Nevertheless, civil libertys include ALL.
Read the constitution and declaration of independence. Read it, live it, love it. :)

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Can you say: 'Not a chance'?Nov 17th, 2007 - 00:28:00

'Can you say President Ron Paul?'

Can you say 'deluded sock-puppet'?

How about 'internet spammer'?

'Online poll flooder'?

'Moonbat'?

'Idiot?'

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scorcNov 17th, 2007 - 02:13:15

'CBS concocted some story about a phoney document on Bush's National Guard service! Where was the outrage on that?'

A producer was fired, three executives were forced to resign, and Dan Rather was shamed into retirement six months later.

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AAAAANDRENov 17th, 2007 - 02:27:59

Can you say convincing arguments???
(I didn't think so.)

>>Can you say 'deluded sock-puppet'?>How about 'internet spammer'?>'Online poll flooder'?>'Moonbat'?>'Idiot?'

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Tess, CaliforniaNov 17th, 2007 - 03:54:54

Ron Paul Rocks, and the Neocons are going down. Its sad that people have lost themselves in greed and really don't see what is really happening to this Country. Freedom, Liberty, and Ron Paul for all of us.

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??Nov 17th, 2007 - 05:31:46

Sock puppet, moon bat?? Time to come up with something different than the same old blather! Every candidate needs to be given intense attention and a chance to explain their position, or we might end up with another feather-brained light weight with a smirk as big as Texas!

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Gardentool#5Nov 17th, 2007 - 05:42:10

The arts of power and all its minions are the same in all countries and in all ages. It marks its victim; denounces it; and excites the public odium and the public hatred, to conceal its own abuses and encroachments. -Henry Clay-
Ron Paul Tea Party, Dec. 16, $100 or? Let's blow past that 12 million mark!

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GeorgeRobsonNov 17th, 2007 - 06:14:19


The recipient country's that receive the billions of Dollars squeezed out of the U.S.taxpayers are going to send their lobbyists into overdrive.
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The more popular Ron Paul gets,.. the more heat.. he will attract from these parasites... it will be like a Minnie global warming,..

Hes proved his honesty and he is NOT a slime ball,..BUT he had better be tough as well ...

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Freedom4AmericaNov 17th, 2007 - 11:51:19

The video on the site below is important for ALL to watch no matter who your candidate is. It is about the Voter Fraud that will be happening in New Hampshire and Iowa unless we take measures to stop it.

www.thetruth247.com

ONLY A Doctor WILL HEAL Our Country,
Freedom4America

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for laNov 17th, 2007 - 14:11:50

now look you done.
you made sp4 cry

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SP4: It's like a friggin moonie conventionNov 17th, 2007 - 18:13:05

The automatons just march on...

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:-DNov 17th, 2007 - 18:17:09

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'Sock puppet, moon bat?? Time to come up with something different than the same old blather!'

I can't wait to feed off your sweet, sweet disappointment. LOL!

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??Nov 17th, 2007 - 20:33:45

This site is your life - not mine - carry on!

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Darryl SchmitzNov 17th, 2007 - 20:40:00

Mona Charen posted a 'brilliant' article today, with the title 'Cose to Kooky'. It wasn't until I read her bio at Wikipedia that I could make heads or tails of her spiteful rant. The online version of her column, by the way, got a one-star (on a one to five scale) rating by 222 readers, all of whom must have been spambots.

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Darryl SchmitzNov 17th, 2007 - 20:41:10

Sorry for the typo. The title was 'Close to Kooky'.

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scorcNov 17th, 2007 - 22:58:04

CLOSE TO KOOKY

Yeah, I liked one of her concluding statements.



So the word 'neo-con' is antisemitic code for 'Jew?' and Paul's supporters are supposed to be the paranoid ones?

Anyone who tries to associate the neo-cons with the Jews for the purpose of using antisemitism as a shield may as well put their credibility on ebay and pray they get enough to cover postage.

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scorcNov 17th, 2007 - 23:03:10

CLOSE TO KOOKY

Yeah, I liked one of her concluding statements.

--...he inveighs against the 'neo-cons' (shorthand for Jews in some circles) and he gives aid and comfort to the paranoid by appearing on their favorite radio shows.--

So the word 'neo-con' is antisemitic code for 'Jew?' and Paul's supporters are supposed to be the paranoid ones?

Anyone who tries to associate the neo-cons with the Jews for the purpose of using antisemitism as a shield may as well put their credibility on ebay and pray they get enough to cover postage.

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chrisNov 17th, 2007 - 23:32:24

CBS,Phony doc? Bush was AWOL and everyone knows it. ANYONE who supports Bush still, is in left field. MURDER, which includes phony wars, is enough reason to not like George Bush, I am sure we all can come up with many other reasons if needed.

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Jews4PaulNov 17th, 2007 - 23:39:23

No kidding. Using the word that neocons invented to describe themselves is now verboten? Even worse, using their word to identify them labels the user as a 'racist'? The fact that neoclowns are trying to make 'neocon' the new N-word is further evidence that they're running scared. Next thing you know, they'll all be putting on women's clothes and heading for the border. Trotsky would be proud.

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KNov 18th, 2007 - 02:55:14

SP4 wrote this: The automatons just march on...
The obvious reply is: And the morons keep whacking away at their keyboards.

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SP4: Those Darn Neocons!Nov 18th, 2007 - 22:27:23

things that may surprise you:

Neocons are, predominantly, non-interventionists. The term comes from dissaffected liberals in the 1960's who turned away from the democrats when they abandoned the Kennedy liberal model. They objected to the Vietnam war, and felt Johnson led them away from the true path of the Party. They felt Bill Buckly, the intellectual leader of the left, did not embody their ideals.

They became Neo-Con republicans. One of them founded the American Spectator.

Bush is not a real conservative. He is not a fiscal conservative, he is not a non-interventionist. He, like Nixon, is willing to fund most of the left's hair-brained schemes and failed to hold the line.

He went into Iraq, something real neo-cons would recoil to.

Bush may be a republican, but he is not a Conservative, and not leading a conservative movement, neo or otherwise.

Now, what's THAT make Ron Paul. If I were him, I'd start getting an answer, because he'll need one, soon.

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HalNov 19th, 2007 - 00:42:37

The only thing that would surprise me is if SP4 ever grew a brain, and then learned how to use it. But that is too much to hope for, I fear.

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JimNov 19th, 2007 - 02:12:48

In re: SP4's latest post.
Where did you copy that from, SP1/2?
Since you don't have the intelligence to come up with something that is comprehensible, copying non-sequiturs, does not count as thinking.
While the origins of the term neo-con may be correct, SP1/2 forgets that the English language is a dynamic one. It is continually changing. Meanings of words change. Can you say 'change,' SP1/2? No, I thought not. Change is an anathema to a conservative. Change is something to be fought at all costs. That is why you don't count, SP1/2. That is why you will never amount to anything. Your mind is stuck in a dead dynamic. As dead as the Kennedy's. As dead as Nixon. As dead as Jesus effing christ.

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tonny from belgiumNov 19th, 2007 - 09:08:16

Is there any reason to claim neocons are non -interventionists,stemming from the democrats when the whole world knows the facts ;that the neocons originate frorm the GOP and the evangelicals ,the start of the 'pax americana ' stems from the period when the USA found itself the only military superpower remaining and guys like Rove,Wolfowitz,Cheney,Rumsfeld,and a few others thought it convenient to find a new use for all this piles of missiles and guns suddenly becoming obsolete .Conservative think tanks uniting the usual weapons mercahnts and the lunatic fringe of the GOP came forward with the brilliant idea that the world would be better of if the USA was to rule the world,discarding the UN and enforcing it's standards upon the rest of the planet .One of the first missions these guys set was to instigate this 'pax americana' in the middle east ,on instigation of AIPAC .And of course the first target was Saddam Hussain .Hhe was an easy target for this coalition in which all american conservative forces could unite ;the oil lobby could take over control of the oil fields,the american army would find itself a more reliable place to build army bases compared to Saudi Arabia,the Israel lobby was getting rid of an unpredictable threat and the arms lobby would greatly profit from the resulting war,evangelicals would of course insist on the divine inspired nature of the war party,claiming that the downfall of Saddam would enhance the strength of Israel,making it gaining more appeal to enhance jewish immigration and bringer nearer the battle of Armageddon and the final ' rapture' that would lift this fine leage of christians straight to heaven .And so the coalition against Saddam was ready to take action even before GW Bush was to become the president .The only thing needed was an excuse to set the wheels in motion .The terrorist attack of the twin towers fas the golden opportunity needed for this cabale to perform it's master plan.Quickly the american public was to 'discover' the existence of an imminent attack by Saddam against the USA or Europe,the existence of numerous WMD,the builing of Iraqi nukes....all sucked out of the thumbs of Rove,Cheney,Rumsfeld,etc,etc.FOX networks played a very creative part in this complot and was happy to induce and enhance the paranoia that still grips part of the USA .All dissent was proclaimed treason by the very mouth of Bush,all critical voices were in fact labeled unpatriotic....and so the USA marched to war .It took months before the first americans discovered that no Al Quaida terrorists existed in Iraq,that they came in the wake of the american invasion.That no WMD were ever found,whatever SP4 cares to believe,that no plans existed for building nukes,the CIA even knew the evidence used by Colin Powell was either false or extracted by torture from anybody labeled suspected terrorists .
That is a somewhat different story than the ranting of SP4 and corroborated by history and facts.

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sp4; TonnyNov 20th, 2007 - 23:27:01

No, son...they were born in 1968.

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SP4: Hirrary and the Non-InterventionistsNov 20th, 2007 - 23:34:48

Neocons were originally disgruntled Kennedy liberals. The most famous personality was Charlon Heston. He was an avowed Kennedy liberal, until Barry Goldwater changed his mind. Others popped up in the 60's and one even founded the American Spectator.

In the 1970's and 80's, guys like Gingrich, Jack Kemp and others wanted a form of conservatism not connected to the old GOP. They were the one's who founded the Reagan revolution, taht swept Carter from office.

No, Tonny, guns bombs, and tinfoil hats are not part of the landscape. A repubican is not a necessarily conservative. There was actualy a world before you were born, even if it WAS colder....




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Classic!Nov 21st, 2007 - 15:14:32

'Hirrary'! God, what a jab!

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Thomas JeffersonNov 26th, 2007 - 12:22:34

Every one see how this labeling thing works? Just label some one as a terrorist if they don't follow suit? What horse crap!! Everyone Look at what the media has become, nothing but lies and bias, so bad that its blatant to the point of ridiculous. Please be sure to piont this fact out to everyone who will listen. Ron Paul is the only American in this race that matters. Do you think the rest of the candidates (from both parties) are really gonna represent you and me and not the big buisness giants? Really?? For those of us who already have awoken, press on. For those of us who still see the bias and lies and still buy into it, one thing you should do..........Wake the hell up! Dr. Paul represents the people, and the big corporation along with the mass media cannot stand this! Do you want a president who will lead this country back on its American path or do you want a another President to send your Kids off to die for war Profits, over taxing us, and creating more unconstitutional laws? Really? We have a once in a life time candidate to vote for, They can try to smear, lie, and exclude him as they have done, proving bias and distortion
but the waking people of this country see through it. Restore America!
Vote Ron Paul 2008.......or this country is going to slide right into the
jaws of hell! Don't believe me?? Just turn on the biased ass TV and see for your self!!!

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