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I've said from the beginning I did not think the Democrats would give the Republicans the gift of a Hillary Clinton nominee. Seems I was right.
Quoting the article:' Saturday's Democratic caucuses brought new proof of the grassroots excitement generated by Obama, the self-described candidate of change who is seeking to become the first black US president in the November 4 election.'
Oh, so Senator Obama really can become our first BLACK president. That honor does NOT go to Bill Clinton! How about that!
I sure hope that we will be ok with a bLack leader.I watch Oprah and different ones on Tv and you can see how they really lean more to their race.The slave thing has been over for lots of years and yet it is continually brought up.This was way before our time why do we still have to be reminded about what has happened long before our time.We have all kind of stars that play sports and in show business that are treated like kings and queens yet we have slavery brought up all the time.This thing of States having to pay for them having slavery from years ago is plain crazy.
Go check out the Manifesto of the Church this guy belongs to...it's like the Christian version of the black muslims. Talk about turning the other cheek...
a pretty good job of checking out his church in Chicago.
all black with total devotion and dedication to the ''cradle of civilization' the continent of Africa. Also they lean heavily towards anti white. Obama attends this church regularly and has for some time. He and the church leader, Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. , are very good friends; Obama claiming Dr. Wright has led him to salvation and shon him the way.
Just another reason I won't be voting for Obama. The man has no plan.
And we have heard from the idiot bigots!
to do with bigotry dumb-ass. Just the facts. By the way, you might try to research your material in earnest. Sometimes the truth is a little scary.
...the number of democrats who just don't want Hirray and her resume' in office. Heck it's almost...half...the number of republicans who don't either..(hahahahaha!)
The other bewildering thing is Obama's resume'...or lack of one...and the utter acceptance of this guy by the dems, without so much as a single detailed position other than the war, which only requires one sentence to articulate.
Now, you go ask your garden variety libnazi about Bush's resume' and he or she seems to think it is required to look like Thomas Jefferson's, without the slaves of course...but they'll roll in a heartbeat for this other guy, who has less experience than Bush.
Is it because he's black?
I don't think so. I think it's because he's not a woman...who is married to a guy named Bill. Then again, that may just be me...
The other thing that just bewilders me is how the Clintons failed to deal this guy out early, when they had the chance. Certainly they could have, but failed. Did they think he had no legs? Beats me.
This leads me to believe either Bush's guys were really THAT good, or that their competition was SO bad. I mean, his M.O. was defeating them all early in the game, but this Obama has survived, in the face of what I think might be the best campaigners in the US.
The only other explanaition is that the dems have a whole bunch who, really, really do not want Hirrary in office and are willing to back just about anyone to achieve that goal.
'And we have heard from the idiot bigots!'
Calling people names because you disagree with them is childish.
Branding those whom you disagree with as bigots isn't going to work anymore. We have a generation that has lots of different racial and ethnic backgrounds and no one is buying the old 'we just don't like him because he's black' broadbrush anymore.
Besides, he not THAT black!
No, this guy may not have to prove himself to the sycophantic dem sheep, but that does not mean he has the resume' or chops to sit in the big chair anymore than GWB. The difference is, guys like you will simply let him off the hook because he's a democrat.
THAT is the real bigotry at work here!
obviously has some very white genes. If he is elected, I don't believe he will allow race to cloud his judgement nor will race influence his decisions. Unlike George W. Bush, he hs a brain.
yep by golly he has white genes ,but then he is black when it suits the purpose.......
As usual the neocons are diverting the topics of your elections from what realy matters like health care to silly issues like the gender of race of your candidates.The result of such cheap tactics left you with George Bush , trillionjs of dollars deficit, appaling health care,bad education standards for most of your children,the growing gap between richest and poorest ,etc.Wouldn(t you rather focus on that kind of issues or do you think it is too trivial compared with the fruits of your poor understanding.
Let me guess,health care is no issue because ....you have the best in the world ?
To all, I can investivate just like you. Just because someone's religion has African ties that does not make them a 'black muslim'. Most Catholics I know are not necessarily Italian, and Most Mormans are not into plural marriage.
Bigotry comes from ignorance and when it comes to ignorance SP4 is the king. He has proved many times he is a bigot in his thinking, and others on this board who support his position sit there with him/her.
Anyone that would say 'not that black' is a bigot! You first have to come up with something that is acceptable in your tobacco chewing nascar redneck society and 'not that black' is better than calling him a 'half breed'.
So right back at you, you all need to do some investigating on his background and you will find the 'real american story', someone who grew up black and poor who has worked hard and is in a position that anyone with aspirations of power would like to be in. All he has to do is to beat the Clinton Machine, and he will clean John McKennedy's clock!
'Let me guess,health care is no issue because ....you have the best in the world ?'
YES, Finally you get it!
'To all, I can investivate[sic] just like you. Just because someone's religion has African ties that does not make them a 'black muslim'.[sic]'
Does being educated at an Indonesian madrassah?
'Bigotry comes from ignorance '
Sometimes it comes from seeing what you wish to see.
'Anyone that would say 'not that black' is a bigot!'
As is anyone who would vote for someone because of his race, even if that means putting someone in the oval office who is dangerously unqualified and inexperienced for the brief indulgence of demonstrating your supposed moral superiority over those who you consider bigoted Neanderthals. Kind of hypocritical and ironic when you think about it.
'do some investigating on his background and you will find the 'real american[sic] story','
'Via that Indonesian madrassah... :-D
'someone who grew up black and poor '
Well, no, his mothers side of the family had money.
' who has worked hard'
As a lawyer? Since when do lawyers (for slum lords no less) 'work hard'?
'All he has to do is to beat the Clinton Machine'
All he has to do is beat those super-delegates at the convention... :-D
'and he will clean John McKennedy's clock!'
Sure, what could this child have to worry about running against a man with 50 years of service to the USA? After all, you have seen what you want to see and determined that it would be fun to vote for someone because of their color. Please though, don't flatter yourself that it is a principled decision and don't add hypocrisy to the mix by laughably calling others bigots.
'Does being educated at an Indonesian madrassah?'
It may if it were true---liar.
'Sometimes it comes from seeing what you wish to see.'
Again, sometimes is comes from ignorance (look in a mirror).
'As is anyone who would vote for someone because of his race, even if that means putting someone in the oval office who is dangerously unqualified and inexperienced for the brief indulgence of demonstrating your supposed moral superiority over those who you consider bigoted Neanderthals. Kind of hypocritical and ironic when you think about it.'
Who said vote for him because he is black? As for unqualified and inexperienced, we have had that for the last 8 years!
'Via that Indonesian madrassah... :-D'
Again, liar. You should not listen to so much Fox news---even they apologized for reporting this lie!
'Well, no, his mothers side of the family had money.'
Your point? I guess when your father leaves the family and the mothers side has no money, that would qualify as poor????
'As a lawyer? Since when do lawyers (for slum lords no less) 'work hard'?'
Got to work hard to become a lawyer. Slum lord work is hard work, and what does that have to do with anything, some of your points are sounding pretty stupid for you!
All he has to do is beat those super-delegates at the convention... :-D'
Yes?
'Sure, what could this child have to worry about running against a man with 50 years of service to the USA? After all, you have seen what you want to see and determined that it would be fun to vote for someone because of their color. Please though, don't flatter yourself that it is a principled decision and don't add hypocrisy to the mix by laughably calling others bigots.'
Again, who said to vote for the guy because he is black??? 50 years of service??? His big claim to fame is being a POW, god grant him his dues for that, but he was 5th from the bottom from his of his class. No genius there, he is stubborn as a mule, and living in Arizona I have more than enough of his bullheaded inconsequential crap. He is a great man, but he is an old great man with old ideas and has been abused by the political machine and has taken it like a good boy.
Not only are you a bigot, you are an idiot.
'It may if it were true---liar.'
Yeah, lots of catholic schools in Jakarta.
'Again, sometimes is comes from ignorance (look in a mirror).'
OOOOh Witty retort! Did I strike a nerve calling you out on your mental masturbatory, feel-good soft bigotry?
Who said vote for him because he is black?
And his other qualifications are?
'Again, liar. You should not listen to so much Fox news-'
I have been to Indonesia, it is an Islamic country where islamic education is the norm. I do not believe that he is a Muslim, he has said he isn't. (He has acknowledged he is a member of Trinity United Church of Christ which is all but a black supremacist/separatist church. Shall I post their creed? The 'pastor' Obama's minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright just gave an award to Louis Farrakhan and unsurprisingly, Louis Farrakhan the nation of islam leader just gave Obama a glowing recommendation endorsement. Are you going to claim that Louis Farrakhan isn't a racist either?)
'I guess when your father leaves the family and the mothers side has no money, that would qualify as poor????'
Eeer... Yes... No money=poor, being a spoiled trust fund baby who likes to go out with guys to infuriate daddy would mean 'not poor'... I usually charge for this kind of economic illumination.
'Got to work hard to become a lawyer.'
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
'Slum lord work is hard work,'
LOL!
'and what does that have to do with anything, '
It means he is a hypocrite who will sell out blacks to make a buck.
'some of your points are sounding pretty stupid for you!'
Sorry, I didn't realize that you needed the obvious explained. I should have considering what you have posted.
'Again, who said to vote for the guy because he is black???'
Again, why would anyone vote for a freshmen senator with so little experience other then to make a 'statement'? Simply put, Obama is unqualified. Full stop. Maybe in a a couple of more terms he will have the experience and judgment to make a good president. As of now you and yours are like a bunch of simple children grabbing at the latest shiny toy the media is selling you. You are doing it because you love the idea of voting for the black guy... that is racism.
' 50 years of service??? '
Yes.
'His big claim to fame is being a POW, '
Well, if you would like to spin it that way, (that ignores the other 45 years) but that is one of the ways he was tested and he conducted himself as honorably as humanly possible.
', god grant him his dues for that, but he was 5th from the bottom from his of his class. '
At the US Naval Academy. What community college did you flunk out of?
'and living in Arizona'
LOL! Ill trade my New York senator for yours.
'He is a great man, '
No one has ever, especially grudgingly, had to say that about Obama. Simply put; he is the flavor of the month, a fad, the newest hula-hoop.
The position of president of the United States is too important to be filled by unqualified fads voted in for capricious, bigoted reasons.
What a bunch of lies ...Education in Indonesia is secular first of all,so os political ife overwhelmingly .I know ,because I've been there 30 times over a 15 year time period .Madreassah means school in arabic language,no more no less.In Indonesia school is called sekolah ,not madrassah .Madrassahs in Indonesia are like your Oral Robert's university,a barely disguised fundamentalist itstitution.Why not focus on political programs ?The use of smear tactics is an insult to the very nature of democracy .I just hope one day a new mentality will emerge in the USA,concentrating on politcal programs like education,health care,environment issues ,not just the usual character assasination .
If you realy had the best education in the world,the discussions would never been carried out in such a disgraceful manner .It shows ignorance,not understanding .
Meanwhile the electorale process is showing thje highest participation of young people ever in the USA ,I guess they are fed up by having their freedom and civil liberties eroded by the government and the evangelists .
Before you attack any religion in the world,solve your own mess,more than sixty percent of americans believe in creationism .So much for....the vest education in the world ...according to some that never looked anywhere else .
Tonny resents the USA, thinks we are uneducated fools, never fails to take to the message boards to cite how violent we are and post false claims about how many millions of people we have 'murdered' just to get oil.
And tonny wants you to vote for Obama. What does that tell you?
'Education in Indonesia is secular first of all,so os political ife overwhelmingly'
Overwhelmingly... Just ask the people of East Timor.
'I know ,because I've been there 30 times over a 15 year time period'
Get lost on your Hajj? I have been there as well tonny, it is a Muslim country.
'Madreassah means school in arabic language,no more no less.'
So it's settled then, Obama went to a madrassah.
'Madrassahs in Indonesia are like your Oral Robert's university,a barely disguised fundamentalist itstitution[sic].
Good thing we are not considering anyone who went to Oral Roberts university.
'Why not focus on political programs ?'
Sure, and experience as well.
' just hope one day a new mentality will emerge in the USA,concentrating on politcal programs like education,health care,environment issues'
What you hope for is socialism in the USA. We do not want it. Perhaps you need a nanny state to take care of you, I do not. I value my freedom and liberty too much to sign it over to some government bureaucracy in order top get some of what was rightfully mine to begin with back.
'If you realy had the best education in the world,the discussions would never been carried out in such a disgraceful manner .It shows ignorance,not understanding .'
So really, all we need to do is call you super-educated, super effective and super courageous europeans up and ask how we should vote. Actually, why bother having an election at all? Just call up the EU and ask them how we should be ruled. After all, that is what really educated clowns like yourself have chosen.
'Before you attack any religion in the world,solve your own mess,'
Why don't you do the same in terms of your own government, your own education and your own elections. Hypocrite.
'more than sixty percent of americans[sic] believe in creationism'
Yeah, according to your poorly xeroxed Trotskyite tract that you got handed on the street corner by your fellow unemployed adolescent euro-welfare case. Anyone who actually lives here knows that is complete nonsense.
You see, Tonny actually HAS a religion. He is a card carrying member of the Church-of-the-Divine-Liberal.
Now realize, this is a church created by folks who don't believe in God, so they created their own religion, just like the Scientologists.
In this church, the clerics are the academics. Their word is considered holy, and if you stray, they start the Inquisition on you.
Tonny is a zealot, plain and simple. He tows the line like a true believer, never stopping to consider the facts, be it Global Warming, Cooling, or any other subject. To him, the all-knowing academic feeds him his daily bread, taken on one knee and then he gives thanks. All Knowledge, at least from his administors, is considered truth, not just fact. In the Libnazi church, they are the same.
Now, if you have blasphemed the church and you must be re-educated. After all, this is the only logical conclusion when you fail to believe: you must be Crazy,
Stupid,
Or a Radical.
One quick brain-washing will do the trick in their Orwellian world. No dissent allowed.
Yes, it's the middle ages all over again, except with electricity. When they say they are uniters...this is what they really mean.
Sp4 is really too stupid to reply to, he has no credibility. But ; o ) still has a minor bit of credibility left so I will respond to his rants.
'Yeah, lots of catholic schools in Jakarta.'
Bigot and liar---I guess if he went to school in Alabama he would be a redneck?
'OOOOh Witty retort! Did I strike a nerve calling you out on your mental masturbatory, feel-good soft bigotry?'
The only nerve you struck was the laughter nerve, you are a funny guy---not much for the truth but funny.
'And his other qualifications are?'
He has much more experience that your sock puppets in the Bush administration. He has been a state senator for longer than Hillary, and has at least three times as much experience as your idiot boy GWB---plus he has told the truth once in a while in his career.
'I have been to Indonesia, it is an Islamic country where islamic education is the norm. I do not believe that he is a Muslim, he has said he isn't. (He has acknowledged he is a member of Trinity United Church of Christ which is all but a black supremacist/separatist church. Shall I post their creed? The 'pastor' Obama's minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright just gave an award to Louis Farrakhan and unsurprisingly, Louis Farrakhan the nation of islam leader just gave Obama a glowing recommendation endorsement. Are you going to claim that Louis Farrakhan isn't a racist either?)'
I have been there also idiot boy. You are not the only one with a passport. Were we to be impressed with your worldly travel? Go with their creed if you would like, I have read it. It is based in Africa and has nothing to do with Louis Farrakhan. He has disavowed any relationship with Mr. Farrakhan, and just because he was endorsed by him does not mean he has anything to do with Mr Farrakhan's organization. I guess when David Duke endorsed your crew, that made them part of the KKK? What an idiot! Are you going to claim that David Duke is a member of NAACP?
'Eeer... Yes... No money=poor, being a spoiled trust fund baby who likes to go out with guys to infuriate daddy would mean 'not poor'... I usually charge for this kind of economic illumination.'
You could not charge much since you are a liar and a bigot.
'It means he is a hypocrite who will sell out blacks to make a buck. '
Kind of like your white buddies in this administration who have sold out the entire countgry?
'Sorry, I didn't realize that you needed the obvious explained. I should have considering what you have posted.'
Great response, shows me you are an educated man (not)---probably military and lived 20 years off the government---maybe still doing it.
'Again, why would anyone vote for a freshmen senator with so little experience other then to make a 'statement'? Simply put, Obama is unqualified. Full stop. Maybe in a a couple of more terms he will have the experience and judgment to make a good president. As of now you and yours are like a bunch of simple children grabbing at the latest shiny toy the media is selling you. You are doing it because you love the idea of voting for the black guy... that is racism. '
That is your opinion and it does not mean much. A change is in the air and no matter what you old military dogs believe, a change is coming. And again what does Black have to do with the situation---you are only supporting John McKennedy because he is white---you bigot!
'Well, if you would like to spin it that way, (that ignores the other 45 years) but that is one of the ways he was tested and he conducted himself as honorably as humanly possible.'
Spin it? John McKennedy has not had an original thought for the last 10 years. When he kissed GWB's butt after GWB threw him under the bus, he ceased being a hero to many, many people.
'At the US Naval Academy. What community college did you flunk out of?'
Sorry buddy, but 226 out of 1350. I did not need to go into the military like you did so I could suck off 'mother government's' nipple for the rest of my life. I have a lot of friends that went to the Naval Academy, and as far as education goes---not that hard---at least that is what they say.
'LOL! Ill trade my New York senator for yours. '
After this election you will still have yours and I will still have mine!
'No one has ever, especially grudgingly, had to say that about Obama. Simply put; he is the flavor of the month, a fad, the newest hula-hoop.
The position of president of the United States is too important to be filled by unqualified fads voted in for capricious, bigoted reasons. '
What a stupid statement. You really are off a bit, usually you are on your game a bit better. The position of President has been filled for the last 7+ years by a joke of a man, not only a joke, but not worth the office. He has brought shame to all of us and it will take years to get his stink off of us. Again, no 'unqualified fad' here, a man with a vision and a man that has a future.
One last thing....you are a bigot and I am surprised you can see your computer screen while you have your hood on!
I'm afraid none of the quotes above are mine....
You need to get out more.
''Yeah, lots of catholic schools in Jakarta.'
Bigot and liar---'
I was being sarcastic, and no I am not a bigot. I find it ironic that you would call me that when it is YOU who are going to vote for someone because of his race.
'I guess if he went to school in Alabama he would be a redneck?'
Depends on the school. Would you argue that growing up in Alabama had no influence in this hypothetical of yours?
'He has much more experience that your sock puppets in the Bush administration.'
Just who are my 'sock puppets in the Bush administration'? If you could set aside your Bush derangement syndrome for a second and focus, you will realize that Bush is not running in this election.
'He has been a state senator for longer than Hillary,'
Barack Obama is the Jr. senator from Illinois, He assumed office on January 2, 2005. Come on... By the way, Hillary assumed office in 2001..
McCain has been serving the USA for 50 years.
'plus he has told the truth once in a while in his career.'
He hasn't had the time to think of a good lie.
'I have been there also idiot boy.'
Congratulations, hysterical girl, you took a cheap vacation. It does tell me though that you were being disingenuous when you call Indonesia a secular country.
'Go with their creed if you would like, '
OK:
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of 'Middleclassness'
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.
OK, Bigot... Would you vote for a white man who went to a church that insisted on a 'commitment to the white community' and the 'white value system'? Etc? Probably not. That is just what is out in the open. If that is what they are saying on their website... Well, again, what makes bigotry OK for them?
'and has nothing to do with Louis Farrakhan.'
So the fact that the Black Muslims have endorsed him doesn't give you pause.
'I guess when David Duke endorsed your crew, that made them part of the KKK? '
Who is my crew? David Duke hasn't endorsed McCain.
'You could not charge much since you are a liar and a bigot.'
Well, wrong on all 3 points. I haven't lied about anything. You are the one hopping on to the bigotry bandwagon because you think it would be fun to vote for a black man. My personal income is not up for discussion here.
'Kind of like your white buddies in this administration'
Which ones would they be?
'probably military and lived 20 years off the government'
You sound as if you do not like our military. Why would that be?
'A change is in the air and no matter what you old military dogs believe, a change is coming. '
Again with the denigration of the military. 'Old military dogs' eh? Oh by the way bone head: the word 'change' that you morons hop onto (Like all the other bandwagons that the insecure need to ride on) doesn't signify whether or not it is POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE. Having an inoperable tumor in your brain is a 'change'. Loosing your leg is a 'change'. Idiots... I have heard the word 'change' chanted over and over again as if it were a magic spell. Some changes are disastrous.
'you are only supporting John McKennedy because he is white'
No, idiot, I am supporting him because he represents the best hope for the country against a rising tide of media programmed lemmings who will march in lock step toward 'change' without any thought what so ever in to what that signifies. I am supporting him because of his 50 years of service and if anyone out there has earned this it is him. I am supporting him because he is a fellow 'Old military dog' which gives him legitimacy to head the country in a time of war. I am supporting him because his competition are pre-packaged, phony, sound-bite spewing, disingenuous incompetents who are going to run this country that I love in to the ground. When you say that I am just going to vote for him because he is white you are judging me by your own stupid yardstick.
'John McKennedy has not had an original thought for the last 10 years. '
Gee, that is why he has the reputation for being such a 'maverick' ... Lack of originality. Nice try.
'When he kissed GWB's butt after GWB threw him under the bus
Back to Bush, eh? You just can't get past it. Your judgment is clouded. Once again, FOCUS: George Bush is not running in the next election.
'I did not need to go into the military like you did '
I joined the Navy after graduating from MIT in order to become an astronaut. I also joined because I believe in the United States, I value and honor our Constitution and Decoration of Independence and I did not want to have a free ride on other peoples efforts to defend and uphold it. I believe in the ideals of the USA and I wanted to make my actions congruent with my beliefs. That is not to say, and I sincerely do not believe that I am better then anyone else who served honorably who went in for a college education. But your stupid class-ist bigotry is incorrect. Not all of us are from 'Alabama' and joined up in order o learn how to count to 10.
'I have a lot of friends that went to the Naval Academy, and as far as education goes---not that hard---at least that is what they say.'
Simply put, you are wrong. Probably making it up as well. I found it more difficult then Ivy league.
Education is the process of being taught how to think for yourself. What you are confusing with education is indoctrination, the process where by people like you are taught how to chant 'change' and equate that stimulus with a desired outcome.
'What a stupid statement. You really are off a bit, usually you are on your game a bit better.'
Not really a rebuttal, now is it?
'The position of President has been filled for the last 7+....'
FOCUS: George Bush is not running in the next election... that is just your programming kicking in.
'Again, no 'unqualified fad' here, a man with a vision and a man that has a future.'
Again, look at the resume. Yes, simply put, an unqualified fad.
'One last thing....you are a bigot and I am surprised you can see your computer screen while you have your hood on!'
Aaah yes, the old 'I'm rubber you're glue' debate style shows itself again in dealing with an internet ranter.. No, I am not a bigot, you have shown yourself to be quite prejudiced here though. Mocking the military, people from southern states, etc... Most importantly, you are voting for someone who is unqualified because you think it might be fun to have someone of a particular race in the White House. That makes you a bigot.
'I was being sarcastic, and no I am not a bigot. I find it ironic that you would call me that when it is YOU who are going to vote for someone because of his race. '
Don't kid yourself, the real you came out there. And I am not going to vote for him because of his race, race has nothing to do with it. I like the fact that he is 25 + years younger and I am tired of old religious white men ruining the country---maybe Mr. Obama will do no better, but we need to go a different direction.
'Depends on the school. Would you argue that growing up in Alabama had no influence in this hypothetical of yours?'
I would not agree with that at all, I believe that one becomes a bigot not at school, but at home. If your parents are bigots, good chance you will be one also.
'Just who are my 'sock puppets in the Bush administration'? If you could set aside your Bush derangement syndrome for a second and focus, you will realize that Bush is not running in this election.'
GWB, Dick Cheney, Rumsfield, Rice, etc., etc. And I do not hate them, I hate the job they have done, or lack thereof.
'Barack Obama is the Jr. senator from Illinois, He assumed office on January 2, 2005. Come on... By the way, Hillary assumed office in 2001..'
While you are correct in this statement, Mr. Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate in 1996. Mr. Obama was in the Senate while Ms. Clinton was trying to keep track of Bill and holding tea parties.
'He hasn't had the time to think of a good lie.'
Not much of a response there MIT boy.
'Congratulations, hysterical girl, you took a cheap vacation. It does tell me though that you were being disingenuous when you call Indonesia a secular country.'
I did not call it a 'secular country', I was just calling you on your lie about Mr. Obama attending a Muslim school. Liar!
OK: (what happened to 1)
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of 'Middleclassness'
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.
So, by you listing this it is suppose to prove what. That just because you believe in supporting your community and your race, one is a Black Muslim? Pretty weak there for a MIT grad, thought you could do better.
'OK, Bigot... Would you vote for a white man who went to a church that insisted on a 'commitment to the white community' and the 'white value system'? Etc? Probably not. That is just what is out in the open. If that is what they are saying on their website... Well, again, what makes bigotry OK for them? '
Thank you for proving that you are a bigot. This last statement shows me you have sheets in the closet. They must have a 'secret society' as they are for Black Pride? What a joke you are.
'So the fact that the Black Muslims have endorsed him doesn't give you pause.'
And again Idiot, how does what you listed above connect the church or Mr. Obama to the Black Muslims? Forgive me I cannot follow you logic here (as it is non-existence).
'Who is my crew? David Duke hasn't endorsed McCain.'
Give it time he endorsed your other boy GWB twice.
'Well, wrong on all 3 points. I haven't lied about anything. You are the one hopping on to the bigotry bandwagon because you think it would be fun to vote for a black man. My personal income is not up for discussion here.'
Liar, yes you have and you are a bigot. You have proven that a couple of times already as I point out above. Could not care less about your income???
'Which ones would they be?'
The current administration (or what is left of them).
'You sound as if you do not like our military. Why would that be?'
Have nothing at all against the military, glad you served and I thank you. I just don't think that serving your country makes you so special. It is a duty that some feel the need to complete and others do not. Thank God for those who do.
'Again with the denigration of the military. 'Old military dogs' eh? Oh by the way bone head: the word 'change' that you morons hop onto (Like all the other bandwagons that the insecure need to ride on) doesn't signify whether or not it is POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE. Having an inoperable tumor in your brain is a 'change'. Loosing your leg is a 'change'. Idiots... I have heard the word 'change' chanted over and over again as if it were a magic spell. Some changes are disastrous.'
And you are the know-all for the country now. Since when were you appointed to the job oc telling everyone else they are an 'idiot' because they do not believe your way. And by the way idiot, some changes are good!
'No, idiot, I am supporting him because he represents the best hope for the country against a rising tide of media programmed lemmings who will march in lock step toward 'change' without any thought what so ever in to what that signifies. I am supporting him because of his 50 years of service and if anyone out there has earned this it is him. I am supporting him because he is a fellow 'Old military dog' which gives him legitimacy to head the country in a time of war. I am supporting him because his competition are pre-packaged, phony, sound-bite spewing, disingenuous incompetents who are going to run this country that I love in to the ground. When you say that I am just going to vote for him because he is white you are judging me by your own stupid yardstick. '
You are not even close to being judged by me, I just think you are a neo-con idiot. I could care less about you as I know when we vote on election day, my vote counts just as much as your vote counts.
'Gee, that is why he has the reputation for being such a 'maverick' ... Lack of originality. Nice try. '
Everything John McKennedy has supported or backed was thught up by someone else. The only good thing he has done in the last 10 years is to tell the Bush administration they were screwing up by not sending prepared or adequate troops.
'Back to Bush, eh? You just can't get past it. Your judgment is clouded. Once again, FOCUS: George Bush is not running in the next election.'
Thank god Bush is gone, and my judgement is not clouded by my hatred for him---I don't hate him I just disagree with him. I guess you right wingers make that judgement---if you don't agree then you hate??? What kind of thought process is that. My opinion of Mr. McCain has been earned by Mr. McCain---when he campaigned for the administration that ran him and his family through the bad mouthing, lying, distortions, bigotry (pay attention) and crap that the Rove machine pulled on him and did not stand up and slap them down---he is not someone I believe should be running the country.
'I joined the Navy after graduating from MIT in order to become an astronaut. I also joined because I believe in the United States, I value and honor our Constitution and Decoration of Independence and I did not want to have a free ride on other peoples efforts to defend and uphold it. I believe in the ideals of the USA and I wanted to make my actions congruent with my beliefs. That is not to say, and I sincerely do not believe that I am better then anyone else who served honorably who went in for a college education. But your stupid class-ist bigotry is incorrect. Not all of us are from 'Alabama' and joined up in order o learn how to count to 10.'
Good for you and thanks again. But that said there are millions of Vets out there that do not think they are special, most of them do not even talk about it or think they are owed anything.
'Simply put, you are wrong. Probably making it up as well. I found it more difficult then Ivy league.'
My favorite college professor graduated from the Naval Academy. He spoke of it fondly and told us more than once it was not that hard. He was 27th in the class. A guy I golf with same thing except he was 76th in the class (both ended up as fighter pilots, I guess if you don't agree then it is 'made up'. Your logic is pretty skewed.
'Education is the process of being taught how to think for yourself. What you are confusing with education is indoctrination, the process where by people like you are taught how to chant 'change' and equate that stimulus with a desired outcome.'
Another 'up on the soapbox' speech. Your way or the highway huh? Get a real life.
'FOCUS: George Bush is not running in the next election... that is just your programming kicking in. '
Really---what an idiot.
'Again, look at the resume. Yes, simply put, an unqualified fad. '
Says you, only one vote just like mine.
'Aaah yes, the old 'I'm rubber you're glue' debate style shows itself again in dealing with an internet ranter.. No, I am not a bigot, you have shown yourself to be quite prejudiced here though. Mocking the military, people from southern states, etc... Most importantly, you are voting for someone who is unqualified because you think it might be fun to have someone of a particular race in the White House. That makes you a bigot.'
Have not mocked the military, people from southern states, am not voting for someone just because of their 'particular race' (does it hurt you to say Black or African American bigot) etc. More lies from an MIT man, they must be proud to have such a liar in their alumni.
By the way it is always fun arguing with a bigot, they always show their true colors.
I guess you are so used to it that you do not even know when you are being insulted. He was saying you are not worth responding to in regards to your little rant above.
Whad a dum-dum!
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