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'...I did what you asked Senator, why do I have to go?'
'...momma had to sacrifice a bitch, Geraldine....sorry...had to do it...no other way...'
'...but senator....'
'...you'll land on your feet, Geraldine...now get out...'
You're supposed to tell us what you think, not reprint whole articles.
As much as you blabber on here with lies and half truths I would not at all be asking anyone to keep it short. What a blabber mouth and what nerve you have---you must have been raised in a woodshead.
Geraldine Ferra-who? Why is this old douche bag flapping her pie hole. Let her go back to her racist eyetalian bretheren. If Obama is where he is at becuase she is black, then Clinton is where she is at becuase she has a vagina and married Bill. They are both affirmative action presidential candidates.
And I really enjoy Clinton continuing to destroy the Democrat party. The first party to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ... stupid predictable Democrats. Obama had the only shot to defeat McCain, and now the Democrats are going to either destroy Obama or let Clinton steal the nomination. Either way, McCain now can defeat a Clinton mauled Obama or an election stealing, racist, horn dog husband having, permanent victim.
What half-truths?
...is the party of Grievence melting down.
First - impune a conservative
Second - impune your own party members
The next thing: they'll call Obama a racist...
I have been saying this all along but it bears repeating. When Americans pull the lver, they ought to be fully aware of what they are getting themselves into. 'The day will come when Islam will enter every house and will spread over the entire world,” Hamas' Gaza leader and former foreign minister Mahmoud al-Zahar announced at a rally last year.
Author confirms: Terrorists 'rejoice' at Obama victory
Aaron Klein, WND Says lawmaker correct policies further goal of Islamic domination
Terrorists worldwide indeed would be emboldened by an Obama election victory not so much because of the senator's middle name – Hussein – or because of his family background, but because terrorists know many of Obama's policies would translate into victory for the global jihad movement.
Obama has made clear he favors a swift American withdrawal from Iraq, direct dialogue with Iran – the largest state sponsor of terrorism – and a more 'evenhanded' approach toward the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
What do the terrorists think about these policies? Well, I recently asked them:
* Ramadan Adassi, leader of the Al Aqsa Brigades terror group in the West Bank's Anskar refugee camp, pointed to Obama's rise to stardom as 'an important success. He won popularity in spite of the Zionists and the conservatives.'
* Abu Hamed, leader of the Al Aqsa Brigades in the northern Gaza Strip, explained Democrat candidates' anti-war positions 'prove that important leaders are understanding the situation differently and are understanding the price and the consequences of the American policy in Iraq and in the world.'
* Muhammad Saadi, a senior leader of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank town of Jenin, said talk of withdrawal from Iraq makes him feel 'proud.'
* 'As Arabs and Muslims we feel proud of this talk,' he told me for my book. 'Very proud from the great successes of the Iraqi resistance. This success that brought the big superpower of the world to discuss a possible withdrawal.'
* Abu Abdullah, a leader of Hamas' military wing in the Gaza Strip, was more direct: the policy of withdrawal, he stated, 'proves the strategy of the resistance is the right strategy against the occupation.'
What about dialogue with America's enemies, such as sit-downs with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that Obama has so fervently advocated?
Muhammad Abdel-Al, spokesman and a senior leader of the Popular Resistance Committees terror group, recently explained U.S. willingness to negotiate and initiate dialogue 'shows the Islamic resistance is bringing the giant [America] to its knees.'
'It would be a great achievement complimented by more and more dead American soldiers they will carry in coffins to the U.S.,' said Abdel-Al.
These terrorists are not just spewing rhetoric. Obama's policies absolutely will further their goal of world domination.
Are Iraqi Insurgents Emboldened by Antiwar Reporting?
Are insurgents in Iraq emboldened by voices in the news media expressing dissent or calling for troop withdrawals from Iraq? The short answer, according to a pair of Harvard economists, is yes.
In a paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research, the authors are quick to point out numerous caveats to their findings, based on data from mid-2003 through late 2007. Yet, their results show that insurgent groups are not devoid of reason and unresponsive to outside pressures and stimuli. “It shows that the various insurgent groups do respond to incentives and shows that a successful counter insurgency strategy should take that reality into account,” says one of the paper’s coauthors, Jonathan Monten, a postdoctoral fellow at Harvard’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.
The paper “Is There an ‘Emboldenment’ Effect in Iraq? Evidence From the Insurgency in Iraq” concludes the following:
—In the short term, there is a small but measurable cost to open public debate in the form of higher attacks against Iraqi and American targets.
—In periods immediately after a spike in “antiresolve” statements in the American media, the level of insurgent attacks increases between 7 and 10 percent.
—Insurgent organizations are strategic actors, meaning that whatever their motivations, religious or ideological, they will respond to incentives and disincentives.
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The Obama-Clinton-McCain Paradoxes [Victor Davis Hanson]
Part of the problem with discussing race, Obama’s middle name, his wife’s astounding proclamations, and all the rest is perhaps remembering that there are two different constituencies, his base and the country, that require an Obama two-step.
No doubt having a middle name like Hussein was ‘cool’ at Columbia and Harvard where it might solidify one’s ethnic or exotic fides. By the same token, a well-paid, Ivy-League-educated African-American woman like Michelle Obama, of course, had considerable success in lecturing upscale elite liberal audiences on their sloth, or cynicism, or why one should not heretofore have pride in the United States, or why America was a mean place. And a bumper-sticker African-American identify was advantageous in the Ivy League for Obama, and essential for success in local districted Chicago politics.
But once one slowly metamorphosizes from a state politician to a liberal Illinois Senator to the purported Democratic nominee, then all of those self-embraced identities that deliberately emphasize, rather than play down, race and culture can become polarizing to a wider constituency — and must be as muffled by the candidate as they are emphasized by his opportunistic opponents.
So now we are in this silly situation, in which at one time Obama was happy enough to remind some that his middle name was Hussein and now it is a slur for other less well-intentioned to do so; in which his wife’s browbeating of America was salve to guilty liberals and now it is considered illiberal to question her assumptions; in which a candidate who rose to prominence as a “black” candidate and garners majority margins of 90% among African-American against a very liberal female opponent insists that he has transcended race and to suggest otherwise is, well, racist.
Nothing is new in all this: all candidates expand beyond their base and try to play down their former zealotry, on issues as diverse as abortion to guns to gay rights. But what is unique is that the usual flak that meets a politician’s readjustments and opportunism in the case of Obama is additionally questioned as being racist or at least insensitive.
A final irony is that Clinton, Inc. made careers on playing up America’s supposed unfairness and insensitivity to a variety of aggrieved groups, and Hillary, as a powerful professional woman par excellence, was prepared to ride that victim horse all the way to the Presidency. But suddenly her offer to Obama of the VP spot is seen as racial condescension, the white girl in the commercial when the 3 AM phone call comes is said to be subtly racist, exegesis about who got Civil Rights legislation enacted is derided as inappropriate, and on and on. In short, the Clintons have been completely Clintonized, and when they turn to the media for their accustomed help, as in the past against the Right Wing Attack Machine — they learn it has become a Left-Wing Attack machine and directed at them!
McCain may become a proper antidote for all this. Unlike the verbose Michelle Obama, he really has suffered in his life; unlike Barack Obama he really has reached across the aisle and paid a price for it; and unlike Obama's promises of transparency, he really does talk in specifics and bluntly rather than in mellifluous platitudes. And as for an against-the-odds candicacy, in postmodern America a 71-year-old survivor of communist torture and malignant melonoma seems to match the narrative of a young Ivy-League graduate of mixed ancestry.
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I hope Obama wins the Presidency...even though it will be short term...because I want to also see him being the first black president to be 'IMPEACHED'....hahahahahaha!!
'you must have been raised in a woodshead'
You are totally wrong...he was rasied in his Momma's Basement..and that ignorant women forget to keep the door locked.
Hillary and her Camp have slyly divided this country between gender and race and then play the Victim Card when called on it. They have thrown more than the Kitchen Sink at Obama who has still refused to defame Hillary like she has defamed him, a true sign of leadership and character of the right kind to lead America back to dignity and respect. Hillary and her camp our divisive, distorters of the truth, masters of spin (which all means they are liars). This is old-party politics and not the politics of the future, towards a more holistic way of leading.
This was always the charge when Clinton was in office. Anyone disagreeing with them was 'divisive'.
The old tricks are the best tricks...
The old tricks are the best tricks ?You mean smear and mudslinging ?I can't help but notice the neocon efforts to associate Obama with radical islamist fundamentalists .All straight our of the republican dirty trick department .This campaign is not based on personal efforts but is a carefully crafted piece of neocon spin ;citing all the arabs satisfied with an eventual Obama victory takes efforts and time .One has to weed for days or weeks through all kind of media for that .The best way to serve this kind of innocent information as a potential weapon is to stay vague ,avoid precise and direct information but keep repeating the smear for months ,and months ,and months ,and months ....Hoping some of the mud will stick .The right attitude against this kind of campaign is to seriously ask yourselves;would you vote for anybody that uses this kind of tactcs .Remember the swift boat campaign ?
For your information,not only arabs would be satisfied with a democrat as president .The whole world is praying for a good president of these eight years of failure .
you people faces. What has Obama done to you? Is it because he is biracial? Or is it because he is not an 'uncle tom', did your momma raised such racists. Grow up people....
opp's i posted this in the wrong forum. sorry it belongs on a differn't site.
though Andy. Doesn't matter which forum you say Bush is a son of a bitch, you are still right.
Why is it not okay to talk about the fact that he has been getting 90% of the black vote and that that is the only reason he has a (slight) lead over Hillary? The numbers show they are in a tie if you just count citizen's votes. If you had 90% of whites doing that all hell would break lose and there would be riots in the streets. The whole thing has turned off so many people that I seriously think McCain will win because people can't bring themselves to vote for Obama. What a shame the DNC can't get a candidate who can win when it should be a shoe in at this point.
said is absolutely true. A white man with Baracks credentials wouldn't survive the first round. I wonder how McCain did it. He's a nothing too:)
have a female (Hillary) as president than Barack Hussein Obama. She would even be better than ''Insane McCain''.
'I wonder how McCain did it. He's a nothing too'
Just 50 years of service to the USA. Thats all.
doesn't make him a president. He's a nothing----a very bad man.
After reading these forums it seems to me that the right to vote should be severely restricted based on intelligence, psychological stability, etc.
Are innuendos what that black racist preacher are tossing around? Is Obama, who's cuddly with a known domestic terrorist and member of the weather underground an innuendo? It's all over the news now, Tonny, because in a free press culture, the one factor that helps level the table is that even libnazi media needs ratings and circulation.
It's adult swim Tonny, and since you are not a citizen of the United States, and ignorant about our culture, and most other things as well, let me educate you: we
are going to dissect this guys real beliefs before it's all over.
Democrats: They want to unite the nation by dividing their own party.
Innuendos??????
The thing that pisses them off SP4 is that the republicans are, in no way, responsible for any of this.
'The best way to serve this kind of innocent information as a potential weapon is to stay vague ,avoid precise and direct information but keep repeating the smear for months ,and months ,and months ,and months ....Hoping some of the mud will stick .'
Absolutely, Tonny! Could not agree more! Let's trip down memory lane...
Like Alberto Gonzales and his 100% legal actions in the Justice Department
Like Louis Libby convicted of a crime he never committed i.e. outing Val Plame
Like all the crap thrown at Cheney that never stuck
Like all the crap at Rove, that never stuck
Like all the crap at Rice...that never stuck.
Now...you're going to get years of it. The difference is, Obama and Clinton are doing it all for us!
Lets' recap:
Obama's crazy-assed antisemitic preacher
Obama's close ties to old Weather Underground scumbags
The Clinton Pardon of the Puerto Rican Terrorists, and just about everyone with a police record...and $$$.
These are not innuendos - these are FACT.
Now, we're going to talk about it.
Curious, a foreigner like you so aroused by the lection of an American president....
read about McCains crazy ass preacher. McCain has already tried to put that behind him simply by not agreeing with him.
Send us a link. We're happy to.
The crazy-assed preacher now has his boy in a fix.
Obama likely joined the Church-of-whats-happnin-Now because it helped his career, and now it's coming back to bite him.
Or
He isn't really a Christian (and he isn't because the true Christian faiths do not advocate what the Rev. Ima-crazy-assed-preacher-advocates) and he is something else.
or Both.
won't allow a link.
His preacher is John Hagee if that helps. What a looney!
I read the 'beliefs' page. I didn't have the time to buy the books and CD's.
What seems to be the objection about the Rev. Hagee??
Take a look at Obamas completely nuts, ranting, bigoted, RACIST, stupid, Neanderthal preachers rants. If some crazy SOB was screaming that near me he would get his teeth knocked out. Obama made him his 'mentor'!
He denies ever having heard Wright say anything outrageous. Excuse me while I guffaw. He also denies that Wright was his “political mentor,” even though he has previously said he consulted with Wright before deciding to run for President.
Obama is, quite simply, lying when he says he never heard Wright say these kinds of things. From the New York Times:
In Monday’s interview, Mr. Wright expressed disappointment but no surprise that Mr. Obama might try to play down their connection.
“When his enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli” to visit Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, Mr. Wright recalled, “with Farrakhan, a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.” Mr. Wright added that his trip implied no endorsement of either Louis Farrakhan’s views or Qaddafi’s.
Mr. Wright said that in the phone conversation in which Mr. Obama disinvited him from a role in the announcement, Mr. Obama cited an article in Rolling Stone, “The Radical Roots of Barack Obama.”
According to the pastor, Mr. Obama then told him, “You can get kind of rough in the sermons, so what we’ve decided is that it’s best for you not to be out there in public.”
These Senators have a nice playpen. They can do pretty much anything they want in their senate seats, but when they go onto the national stage, they get exposed.
Isn't it great that all of this comes out so early in the year, 8 months from election time?
RE:'Isn't it great that all of this comes out so early in the year, 8 months from election time?'
Actually, I think it is highly unfortunate. In comedy and politics, timing is everything.
'Isn't it great that all of this comes out so early in the year, 8 months from election time?'
Do you still support this guy? Probably even more now that it proven he associates with anti-white bigots.
I TOLD YOU THEY WEREN'T 'HALF TRUTHS'.
'Actually, I think it is highly unfortunate. In comedy and politics, timing is everything.'
Just wait... There is plenty more. This guy is incredible.
In a year wen republicans have done all they can to shoot themselves in the foot the democrats have gone the extra mile and shot themselves in both... and the kneecaps for good measure.
Barak wanted to be th playa in his local area and joined up to the Church-of-Whats-Happ'nin-Now. Good move at the time.
Now, he wants to be President, but thought, like on his street, no one would care in the heartland.
Whoops!
Now, he's facing some real scrutiny, and is backpeddling faster than the Polish Olympic cycling team. He had everyone fooled that he was some new age persona out of the US melting pot, but it's coming out that he's just another 'minority' i.e. the term only applying to blacks, and their culture of grievence.
You may as well elect Jesse Jackson. Now if Obama will just call jews 'Hymies' like brother Jesse, no one will be able to tell them apart.
The pastor is best known in some Washington circles as a founder of Christians United for Israel and for his belief, as laid out in his book 'Jerusalem Countdown' that the end of days scenario as spelled out in the Book of Revelation will occur after Russia, allied with the Islamic world, attacks Israel.
'Russia is going to get in that position and they are literally, with all that massive military force, going to attack Israel,' Hagee told ABC News in 2006. 'This is recorded in Ezekiel 38 and 39. God himself is literally going to destroy that army. Decimate it.'
McCain's preacher
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Saturday, March 15, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton essentially even in the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination. It’s Obama 46% Clinton 45% (see recent daily results). This reflects an unusually sharp change from yesterday’s results when Obama led by eight points and reached the 50% level of support for the first time. Daily tracking results are collected via nightly telephone surveys and reported on a four-day rolling average basis. Last night’s results were very favorable for Clinton and it remains to be seen whether this marks a lasting change in the race or is merely statistical noise. Single night results are based upon very small samples and are more volatile than the overall tracking poll.
Looking to November, John McCain now holds a slight lead over both Democrats in the General Election. It’s McCain 47% Obama 42% and McCain 46% Clinton 42% (see recent daily results). It appears that Clinton’s challenges to Obama may be helping McCain at least in the short-term. McCain’s polling numbers against Obama began improving during the run-up to the hard-fought Democratic Primaries in Ohio and Texas. Obama has a three-percentage point edge over McCain among unaffiliated voters but is currently supported by just 65% of Democrats. By way of comparison, McCain earns the vote from 80% of Republicans.
New Rasmussen Reports polling data also shows McCain with a six-point lead over both Obama and Clinton in Ohio. That’s an improvement for McCain relative to polls conducted before the Democratic Primaries in Texas and Ohio. McCain has also recently gained ground against the Democrats in both Michigan and Pennsylvania. Noting these trends, a Rasmussen Reports look at the race suggests that John McCain may be the luckiest man on the planet since Ringo Starr. The Presidential race in 2008 should be the Democrats to lose and in many ways they are currently doing their best to lose it.
So....what is so unusual about John Hagee's interpretation of the Book of Revelations? I'll admit it's not sanctioned by the Vatican, but, outside of being a bit eccentric, how does this make John Hagee a nutball like Obama's preacher?
Well now Mr. Obama is finally getting found out for what he is.
Clinton is getting blamed for what her husband did,just because she was married to him.
Mccain will follow President Bush's war mongering ,cause he is a old war dog .....even though he went through what he did ,he still believes in it
so look for more of the same .
We really got us a great bunch to go to the polls for HUH!!!!!!!!
'We really got us a great bunch to go to the polls for HUH!!!!!!!!'
By all means stay home then.
' outside of being a bit eccentric, how does this make John Hagee a nutball like Obama's preacher?'
It doesn't.
Where is the equivalent to this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hPR5jnjtLo
'Do you still support this guy? Probably even more now that it proven he associates with anti-white bigots.'
Yes, all this proves is that white America has no idea what so ever what happens in the black community. What did this guy really say, please take your bigot hat off and listen. He said Mr. Obama knows what it is like to live in the poor community and that Ms. Clinton does not know what it is like to be called nig-er. Now I believe that both of those statements are true. The only thing that I take offensive is that now Mr. Obama is acting like he did not listen to this for 20 years---that is the only thing that is suspect to me. Grow up and try and understand what it is like to be poor and black living in the inner-city of America, especially when the country is run by a bunch of jokers that have no idea that gas is $4.00 a gallon.
'I TOLD YOU THEY WEREN'T 'HALF TRUTHS'.'
What a line of crap this is. What did this man say that proved any of your 'half-truths'. Did this prove that he was educated a Muslim?---NO! Did this prove that the took anything from a crooked real estate investor?---NO!
As usual trying to make something out of nothing, half-truths and speculation is all you have.
We have 12.5 million Hispanics who came here to work. We have how many other racial and ethnic groups who come here and, in one generation, raise themselves out of the poverty that the African - American urbanite seems trapped in.
The marches are over. Blacks have gained what they so wanted in the past, and now are addicted to the culture of grievance. No one's buying that, somehow, Obama represents some kind of progress, other than a historic precedent. What he represents is the quintessential Oreo Cookie, trying, in vein to convince a willing constituency that he something different.
He is just another Jesse Jackson.
'back at ya liar'
F-you, I have told the truth, you are just too STUPID and blinkered to let yourself hear it. Typical; when confronted with a reality that you do not want to hear or see, one that runs contrary to your BIGOTRY you simply call it 'lies'. That makes you a coward and a loser.
'Yes, all this proves is that white America has no idea what so ever what happens in the black community.'
If the 'black community' is listening to clowns like that every Sunday no wonder they have 'issues'.
' What did this guy really say, please take your bigot hat off and listen.'
Well, lets see, what did this idiot that you are running to the defense of say:
White people created the AIDS virus to kill blacks.
The USA deserved the 9/11 attacks.
'God damn America'.
'America is still the No. 1 killer in the world.'
'[America] put [Nelson] Mandela in prison'
Natalie Holloway was a slut who got herself murdered.
America somehow was responsible for apartheid.
White people foist drugs and guns off on blacks.
On and on and on.... all the scapegoating, all the paranoia, all of the stuff that just doesn't make any sense, the antisemitism, the incredible bigotry... and you write: 'please take your bigot hat off and listen' the moron said...
YOU TAKE YOUR BIGOT HAT OFF AND LISTEN, you FOOL.
'He said Mr. Obama knows what it is like to live in the poor community '
'Mr. Obama' is a spoiled rotten little baby who has whined his way in to prep schools and Ivy league colleges on imagined insults and collected grievances that he falsely traded off (His mother was white.... You know, 'evil oppressor' to you useless parasites in academia and his father was African where slavery STILL exists.) and the poor little snot still insists the world owes him something. Obama doesn't know what it is like to live in a 'poor community'... He has a mansion worth millions that he bought with the bribes he got from Tony Rezko.
'and that Ms. Clinton does not know what it is like to be called nig-er. '
Congratulations. You found the one word that she probably hasn't been called. If she wasn't a sociopath she might have been dragged down by the weight of insults long ago.
'Now I believe that both of those statements are true. '
As if that is the extent of his insane ramblings that OBAMA LISTENED TO FOR 20 YEARS!
'Grow up and try and understand what it is like to be poor and black living in the inner-city of America,'
Grow up and stop making EXCUSES FOR BIGOTRY. I have been dirt poor and I have lived in black neighborhoods unlike you, you completely useless, out of touch trust fund baby. The garbage that Jeremiah Wright peddles is going to do more to keep people poor and wallowing in their whole victim trip then the white people that he despises.
'especially when the country is run by a bunch of jokers that have no idea that gas is $4.00 a gallon.'
Well Obama's (the pandering MORON that you wanted to see elected but who now stands a snowballs chance in hell and he hasn't even faced the REPUBLICANS yet...) stupidity in turning over access to 80% of the worlds oil reserves through the gulf to Iran and al Qaeda will have the poooooor, pooooor perpetual victims who are forever helpless to free themselves of the evil whims of their gleeful abusers paying $12 bucks a gallon.
'Did this prove that he was educated a Muslim?-'
You already conceded that he received Islamic instruction at his Indonesian school. YOU ARE NOW LYING.
' Did this prove that the took anything from a crooked real estate investor?'
HE IS LIVING IN IT!!!!!!!! HE even ADMITTED it was a 'mistake'. He just admitted that the amount that Rezko gave him was 3 times the amount previously disclosed.
'As usual trying to make something out of nothing, '
As usual you are burying your head up your backside to ignore the obvious.
Pathetic.
'half-truths and speculation is all you have.
That, videotapes, court documents... Obama is a liar, a crook and a spoiled little malcontent. No wonder you support him.
'If Ferraro was a hamster, she would not be in this position'
I'm really surprised at the way she said this, experienced political beast that she is, which was tantamount to putting her head in a noose.
I do believe I know what she meant, though, and she's right.
She's talking about 'The Obama effect'. People are so tired of being ruled by middle aged white men who are but minions of the oil bidness acting like fascists and stinking up the whole planet that right now they're ready to vote for anything different, including a black man or (cringe, Ferraro) a woman.
Did anybody notice that Clinton and Obama managed to say ABSOLUTELY NOTHING all along? They don't have a program, they don't have any new ideas, they don't have a fershlugginer clue, fer potrzebie's sakes! They're just content to sit there with their legs wide open and a shit eating grin and be 'The Alternative'. What a pair of blivets!
Personally, I'd vote for the hamster, but only if he had a yellow bow tie.
'She's talking about 'The Obama effect'.'
Where people check their brains at the door and vote for someone who is slick as heck, but resents the society that he is running to represent. Some call it the 'idiot effect'.
'People are so tired of being ruled by middle aged white men who are but minions of the oil bidness acting like fascists and stinking up the whole planet that right now they're ready to vote for anything different, including a black man or (cringe, Ferraro) a woman.'
Ferraro isn't running. Obama is a minion of the coal 'bidness'. 'Anything different' doesn't mean something positive and what is stinking up the planet are the lemmings who hop on bandwagons because the press fawns over a candidate and doesn't do their job until it is too late.
Being a member of a church that is racist is not much different than being a white person who belongs to a country club that doesn’t admit Blacks.
I am not getting the coward part, you must be projecting again-liar!
'F-you, I have told the truth, you are just too STUPID and blinkered to let yourself hear it. Typical; when confronted with a reality that you do not want to hear or see, one that runs contrary to your BIGOTRY you simply call it 'lies'. That makes you a coward and a loser.'
The person who becomes the biggest looser is the one that calls people names and just shouts when they are confronted with the truth---hate it don't you?
'If the 'black community' is listening to clowns like that every Sunday no wonder they have 'issues'.'
Hey liar, go to any part of the Central City where the population is 90% + Black and attend church---you will hear a lot of this 'preaching'. People are very frustrated with not being able to get out of the ghetto and from having OLD WHITE MEN run their lives.
Well, lets see, what did this idiot that you are running to the defense of say:
White people created the AIDS virus to kill blacks.
The USA deserved the 9/11 attacks.
'God damn America'.
'America is still the No. 1 killer in the world.'
'[America] put [Nelson] Mandela in prison'
Natalie Holloway was a slut who got herself murdered.
America somehow was responsible for apartheid.
White people foist drugs and guns off on blacks.
On and on and on.... all the scapegoating, all the paranoia, all of the stuff that just doesn't make any sense, the antisemitism, the incredible bigotry... and you write: 'please take your bigot hat off and listen' the moron said...
YOU TAKE YOUR BIGOT HAT OFF AND LISTEN, you FOOL. '
So what? Go to a Aryan Nations rally, go to a KKK rally, so what?
'Mr. Obama' is a spoiled rotten little baby who has whined his way in to prep schools and Ivy league colleges on imagined insults and collected grievances that he falsely traded off (His mother was white.... You know, 'evil oppressor' to you useless parasites in academia and his father was African where slavery STILL exists.) and the poor little snot still insists the world owes him something. Obama doesn't know what it is like to live in a 'poor community'... He has a mansion worth millions that he bought with the bribes he got from Tony Rezko.'
Oh my god, a black man that has more than you do? Or is it that he just did not 'serve his country'? Another way for you to say 'love it or leave it'? Your real 'bigot roots' shows here by the way---bigot.
'Congratulations. You found the one word that she probably hasn't been called. If she wasn't a sociopath she might have been dragged down by the weight of insults long ago.'
And you must hate powerful women. Humm, I think we have discussed this before. I love it that she is your Senator.
'As if that is the extent of his insane ramblings that OBAMA LISTENED TO FOR 20 YEARS! '
So what?
'Grow up and stop making EXCUSES FOR BIGOTRY. I have been dirt poor and I have lived in black neighborhoods unlike you, you completely useless, out of touch trust fund baby. The garbage that Jeremiah Wright peddles is going to do more to keep people poor and wallowing in their whole victim trip then the white people that he despises.'
Not only are you a bigot and hate powerful women but you have done everything that everyone else has. Fighter Pilot, Astronaut, Ivy League school graduate, world traveler, genius know-it-all, been poor, lived in the ghetto, etc. Yea, that's it I guess you are married to Morgan Fairchild? What you really are is a joke!
'Well Obama's (the pandering MORON that you wanted to see elected but who now stands a snowballs chance in hell and he hasn't even faced the REPUBLICANS yet...) stupidity in turning over access to 80% of the worlds oil reserves through the gulf to Iran and al Qaeda will have the poooooor, pooooor perpetual victims who are forever helpless to free themselves of the evil whims of their gleeful abusers paying $12 bucks a gallon.'
We will see. You have not predicted anything correct yet. Back to Al Qaeda again are we. If we can't be logical, lets scare the masses. Yea, that's it!
'You already conceded that he received Islamic instruction at his Indonesian school. YOU ARE NOW LYING. '
Half truths again...I admitted he attended school in Indonesia, not that he 'received Islamic instruction'.
'HE IS LIVING IN IT!!!!!!!! HE even ADMITTED it was a 'mistake'. He just admitted that the amount that Rezko gave him was 3 times the amount previously disclosed. '
I don't think you can find a quote wher Mr. Obama admits he did anything intentionally wrong? Bring me that or a conviction (or even a legal charge) that he accepted bribes and we can talk again.
'As usual you are burying your head up your backside to ignore the obvious.
Pathetic. '
What is pathetic is that the country still has people like you that are intimidated by powerful black leaders, powerful women and anything that does not fit into your idea of the way it should be.
'That, videotapes, court documents... Obama is a liar, a crook and a spoiled little malcontent. No wonder you support him.'
Again with the half-truths, right, yea that's the ticket. Keep on dreaming, I will be content with my second choice beating your old man! Things in Iraq are starting to go down hill and we are loosing more troops, Afghanistan is producing more Heroin than ever supporting al Qaeda kill more of our troops, the dollar is worthless, food prices are skyrocketing, and guess what? ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID!
...ruled by oil....
seems to me the rulers of oil wear turbans....and they practice a religion far closer to the African-American community than to the Caucasian element of our society.
Go process that and get back to us.
'I am not getting the coward part, you must be projecting again-liar!'
Sharp as a marble, aren't you?
'when confronted with a reality that you do not want to hear or see, one that runs contrary to your BIGOTRY you simply call it 'lies'. That makes you a coward and a loser. '
Burying your head in the sand is a cowardly act. Get it yet?
'The person who becomes the biggest looser[sic] is the one that calls people names and just shouts when they are confronted with the truth-'
Indeed, which is essentially what you have done when confronted with the truth: simply called it lies. And don't call me 'looser'... word is that description belongs to you.
'Hey liar, go to any part of the Central City where the population is 90% + Black and attend church-'
Hey Idiot; Does that mean what I will be hearing is 'truth' or 'helpful' or not deranged, stupid and hateful? Does that mean that we should be electing people who endorse this hate for 20 frigging years?
'. People are very frustrated with not being able to get out of the ghetto'
Maybe they should stop blaming everyone else for being there and take responsibility for their own fate. Regardless, is this the hateful, stupid anti-American mindset that we want running the country? (A rhetorical question, I realize that it is exactly the mindset that you endorse. You hate the USA because it is easier to do that then examine hard truths about yourself.)
'and from having OLD WHITE MEN run their lives.'
It is a lot easier to blame everyone else for everything then to address the real issues, isn't it? (The heart of the leftist mentality: it's always everyone else's fault. The 'OLD WHITE MEN' ruined my life...Grow up.)
'So what? Go to a Aryan Nations rally, go to a KKK rally, so what?'
THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT!!!!!!!! You wouldn't elect a white man who had been attending Aryan nation rallies for the past 20 years! Why would you elect a black man who had been doing the equivalent? (How can you not be getting this? Seriously, how can you not be getting this?)
'Oh my god, a black man that has more than you do? '
Good for him! I do not wish to punish 'success', I just insist that it has been done honestly. He may have more then I do, he might not, but I didn't take bribes and kickbacks to get what I have.
'Or is it that he just did not 'serve his country'?'
He and his wife didn't stop at not 'serving', they resent the hell out of this country.
'Another way for you to say 'love it or leave it'?'
When someplace has been good enough to you to allow you to jump to the front of the line a little appreciation is in order.
'Your real 'bigot roots' shows here by the way---bigot.'
How? What have I said that judges this crooked grifter by his race? Giving him a pass on his bigotry is your patronizing 'soft bigotry'. Not holding EVERYONE to the same standards regardless of race is bigotry. You are the only bigot in this conversation.
'And you must hate powerful women.'
What I was saying was in defense of her, idiot. She has heard it all before and she keeps swinging away. I admire that attribute, if not the person who has it.
' I love it that she is your Senator.'
And McCain is yours until he takes the oval office.
''As if that is the extent of his insane ramblings that OBAMA LISTENED TO FOR 20 YEARS! '
So what?'
So what? Being an anti-American, white hating, insane bigot disqualifies you for public office let alone the Presidency. Sitting in the congregation of one for 20 years is an endorsement of his ideas. As is letting him baptize your children, marrying you, hiring him as spiritual adviser, naming your book after one of his rants, etc, etc... That is 'so what'.
'Not only are you a bigot'
A lie on your part.
'and hate powerful women'
A lie on your part.
'but you have done everything that everyone else has.'
I never attended a Jemimah Wright hate fest.
'. Fighter Pilot, Astronaut, Ivy League school graduate... '
'Aviator' is the term and I never was an astronaut, remember? Other then that... :-D
' Yea, that's it I guess you are married to Morgan Fairchild? '
Not too big on her nose. She's a bit old for me don't you think?
' You have not predicted anything correct yet.'
Simply not true.
'Back to Al Qaeda again are we'
From the 'Yoda school of sentence structure' no doubt. Back to elementary school go you should.
'If we can't be logical, lets scare the masses. Yea, that's it!'
Better to pretend that there is no threat... Keep that head of yours buried, Yea, that's it!
'.I admitted he attended school in Indonesia, not that he 'received Islamic instruction'.'
It was in the articles he posted, verified by his sister.
'I don't think you can find a quote wher Mr. Obama admits he did anything intentionally wrong?
Or Hitler...
' Bring me that or a conviction (or even a legal charge)'
Tony Rezko is on trial right now.
'What is pathetic is that the country still has people like you that are intimidated by powerful black leaders,'
What is pathetic is that is the best you can come up with. In the face of all of this corruption, racism, insanity, disgusting ingratitude and disloyalty.. the best you can do is try to call me a bigot because I point it out. You are the bigot for trying to let it slide. But you have already admitted to that as well.
'that are intimidated by... powerful women'
Not true, but it is obvious that you have a seething resentment for men. I wonder if you can put 2 and 2 together here as it relates to your history. Is it a chicken or egg thing? I guess it doesn't matter, the end result is the same.
'I will be content with my second choice beating your old man! '
Buyers remorse much? Obama already is your nominee, Hillary can not get the numbers without overturning the vote count which will cause riots in the streets. Good work, you elected my candidate. Idiot.
'Things in Iraq are starting to go down hill'
It is safer to be an Iraqi then it is to be an American living in Detroit, St. Louis, Atlanta, Miami or Washington D.C.. Attacks in Iraq are down 80%. Most of the political benchmarks have been met and they are working on the last ones. You are wrong on that as well.
'the dollar is worthless, food prices are skyrocketing, and guess what? ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID!'
LOL!, I can't wait to take Obama on using the economy. His socialist entitlement programs would bankrupt the country by the end of his first term according to Forbes. Even he voted against his own spending program in the senate because it was so outlandish. The 'ECONOMY STUPID'???
What do you think giving control to 80% of the worlds oil reserves to al Qaeda/Iran will do to the economy, stupid...
'Sharp as a marble, aren't you?'
Not much of a retort, your lack of embracing reality is showing.
'Burying your head in the sand is a cowardly act. Get it yet? '
Again pretty weak.....
'Indeed, which is essentially what you have done when confronted with the truth: simply called it lies. And don't call me 'looser'... word is that description belongs to you.'
Why not, it fits your thought process perfectly. You don't mind troops being given for a failed policy.
'Hey Idiot; Does that mean what I will be hearing is 'truth' or 'helpful' or not deranged, stupid and hateful? Does that mean that we should be electing people who endorse this hate for 20 frigging years?'
I have not heard any endorsement come from Mr. Obama for 'this hate for 20 frigging years'. Again half-truths, liar!
'Maybe they should stop blaming everyone else for being there and take responsibility for their own fate. Regardless, is this the hateful, stupid anti-American mindset that we want running the country? (A rhetorical question, I realize that it is exactly the mindset that you endorse. You hate the USA because it is easier to do that then examine hard truths about yourself.)'
Hey Mr. 'I have done everything that anyone can possibly do'. Half-truths again. Just because I don't agree with the way America is being ruined, does not make it a fact that 'I hate America'.. Stupid liar!
'It is a lot easier to blame everyone else for everything then to address the real issues, isn't it? (The heart of the leftist mentality: it's always everyone else's fault. The 'OLD WHITE MEN' ruined my life...Grow up.)'
Again weak...right wing talking point. Please come up with something original.
'THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT!!!!!!!! You wouldn't elect a white man who had been attending Aryan nation rallies for the past 20 years! Why would you elect a black man who had been doing the equivalent? (How can you not be getting this? Seriously, how can you not be getting this?)'
That is not the point (maybe yours---not mine). You do not have the capacity to think out of your right-wing thought process to even consider anything else---it is you that does not get it---pretty stupid.
'Good for him! I do not wish to punish 'success', I just insist that it has been done honestly. He may have more then I do, he might not, but I didn't take bribes and kickbacks to get what I have.'
No charges, or convictions against Mr. Obama so I guess you are lying when you tell another half-truth.
'He and his wife didn't stop at not 'serving', they resent the hell out of this country.'
Because they don't fit into your idea of what they should be doing and what they should be supporting in your mind 'they resent the hell out of this country'? Typical right wing crap, love it or leave it! Fortunately we can question our leaders, it is expected out of REAL Americans.
'When someplace has been good enough to you to allow you to jump to the front of the line a little appreciation is in order.'
What an arrogant as-. You are not owed anything from anyone. Front of the line, what a joke that is. You are so stupid it is amazing.
'How? What have I said that judges this crooked grifter by his race? Giving him a pass on his bigotry is your patronizing 'soft bigotry'. Not holding EVERYONE to the same standards regardless of race is bigotry. You are the only bigot in this conversation.'
Most everything you say comes from you being a bigot.
'What I was saying was in defense of her, idiot. She has heard it all before and she keeps swinging away. I admire that attribute, if not the person who has it.'
No you were not, idiot!
'And McCain is yours until he takes the oval office.'
We will see, but do not hold your breath.
'So what? Being an anti-American, white hating, insane bigot disqualifies you for public office let alone the Presidency. Sitting in the congregation of one for 20 years is an endorsement of his ideas. As is letting him baptize your children, marrying you, hiring him as spiritual adviser, naming your book after one of his rants, etc, etc... That is 'so what'. '
Bigot, just pure bigot.
'A lie on your part.'---wrong!
'A lie on your part.'---again wrong!
'I never attended a Jemimah Wright hate fest.'
May help a white bigot like you, but quit convincing yourself that you are any more special than anyone else---your not!
''Aviator' is the term and I never was an astronaut, remember? Other then that... :-D'
I had a friend that was a pilot---he worked in the stock yards and he would pilot it here and pilot it there. Nothing special.
'Not too big on her nose. She's a bit old for me don't you think? '
Who knows (nose), I have not idea how old you are. As many things that you claim to have done I just assumed you were at least 60, much younger than George Bush III.
'Simply not true.'---only in your right wing mind!
'From the 'Yoda school of sentence structure' no doubt. Back to elementary school go you should.'
Funny man, bigot but funny.
'Better to pretend that there is no threat... Keep that head of yours buried, Yea, that's it!'
No actually better not to create more enemies by staying in a country that should not have been invaded in the first place!
'It was in the articles he posted, verified by his sister.'
Half-truth again. His sister confirmed he attended school there, not that he was taught to be a Muslim.
'Or Hitler...'
Or George Bush, or Dick Cheney, or ???????
'Tony Rezko is on trial right now. '
And your point is? Is Mr. Obama on trial? Has Mr Obama been charged with anything?
'What is pathetic is that is the best you can come up with. In the face of all of this corruption, racism, insanity, disgusting ingratitude and disloyalty.. the best you can do is try to call me a bigot because I point it out. You are the bigot for trying to let it slide. But you have already admitted to that as well.'
Bigot!
'Not true, but it is obvious that you have a seething resentment for men. I wonder if you can put 2 and 2 together here as it relates to your history. Is it a chicken or egg thing? I guess it doesn't matter, the end result is the same. '
Been extremely happily married for 15 years and I love men. I am not at all intimidated by powerful men, unlike you are with women. As we discussed before that is why you have been married so many times.
'Buyers remorse much? Obama already is your nominee, Hillary can not get the numbers without overturning the vote count which will cause riots in the streets. Good work, you elected my candidate. Idiot. '
I guess you neo-con right wingers dream this way? We will see.
'It is safer to be an Iraqi then it is to be an American living in Detroit, St. Louis, Atlanta, Miami or Washington D.C.. Attacks in Iraq are down 80%. Most of the political benchmarks have been met and they are working on the last ones. You are wrong on that as well.'
Now you are lowering yourself to quoting the same responses as SP4? If all this is true why aren't we moving our troops out or have a schedule to move them out instead of keeping them in the line of fire---because you are dreaming. No matter when we leave it will collapse into civil war---and you know it.
'LOL!, I can't wait to take Obama on using the economy. His socialist entitlement programs would bankrupt the country by the end of his first term according to Forbes. Even he voted against his own spending program in the senate because it was so outlandish. The 'ECONOMY STUPID'???
What do you think giving control to 80% of the worlds oil reserves to al Qaeda/Iran will do to the economy, stupid...'
You are such a right-winger. I hope you work for Bear Stearns, it may be a good wake-up for you. IT IS THE ECONOMY STUPID!
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