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It's funny how so many people have all these things to say about Obama while they seem to be sitting on their behinds while other folks are hard at work. If Bush Spoke less about the 'war in Iraq' and did more about the economic status of this country we wouldn't be in this mess. Then again this country has been messed up since the first Bush was in the white house so maybe He's just finishing what his dad started. Anyway, back to the present.... Obama is more than willing to tackle the problems of this nation and that is a big job to do, so if any of you spectators feel like you can do a better job then run for president or shut up!
It is refreshing for once to have someone 'for the people' black or white who cares more about the people than how much money goes into 'rich people' pockets. I'm hoping Obama can change most of these huge corporations that are ripping hard working people off everyday. Places like Office Depot who are not unionized.
It's funny how people here have so much to say about canada, but atleast they have less crimes there and they don't rip off hard working people. They provide benefits for everybody there.
America has gotten rich off the backs of hard working people for too long and if Obama coming to office means we attempt to even the playing field abit and try to give back the billions that was stolen then 'God Bless America'
Like I said, put up or shut up! It's a struggle in Africa for people to find clean drinking water and food to eat but let me tell you something. It's a struggle here in the US as well. The difference is people here don't want to get off their buts and change their situation. They want the hand out.
It sucks for the hardworking people that get up at the crack of dawn struggling to make ends meet. Obama will be a great example to this nation. It's not even a matter of race. Race has nothing to do with it. I just want someone in office that is actually going to do something good about all the problems our nation is facing today because of poor decisions made by the government and their 'their will always be casualties in war BS'
What will the american government have to say to the millions of single moms and full family homes that lost their sons and daughters in Iraq because their had to be casualties in war. What will they do when those demons come knocking at their doors and won't go away.
That time is now! If you want the people in the country to support the government then you can't treat the people in the country like they don't matter, like they are just numbers.
Support the American Republic...JUdah Ben-Hur for President, 2012!
ask sp4 he knows it all.he's a fart smeller i mean smart feller...
I expect SP4 is sulking - after all he believes there is no recession, the dollar is strong, oil is cheap. Things which are supported by the news every day !
What's remarkable is that the fruitcake shows up in so many places, everyone knows his ID.
Personally, I think it's a GROUP of posters provided for our amusement by the GOP to make these imbecilic claims that we get to read.
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As to Obama - sometimes I wish he'd get to the point without the flourishes; but in this case, he's very much aligned with the Treasury Secretary.
It's sad that the system periodically realizes that MORE regulation is required to protect the public - the last ruckus was Sarbanes-Oxley, as a result of Enron. That put a considerable 'compliance' burden even on small firms.
We have so many 'non-bank banks' around, and other financial institutions involved with sub-prime AND the derivatives thereof, that risks have multiplied. When you see leveraging of over 20 times the original amount, it's a sign that things have gotten way out of hand.
too bad the democrats are wasting their time beating each other up for that elusive top spot of president. They are so keen on getting the presidency that they will throw the baby out with the bathwater, much to the joy of the republicans....LOL. So much ill will between the to camps of Clinton and Obama that reconilitory bonding will be hard....yeesh.
If ya got mud...throw it at the Republicans and not each other.
Obama is exactly right. Amazing. And he is willing to say so. He is another J.F.K. He gets my vote. Too bad republicans this time I'm afraid your out.
I see the tinfoil hat crowd is having a hat convention up above.
Obama's right about one thing: greed did some of this.
What he isn't telling you is that the applicants of all the ARM's were greedy too. Of course, he neglects to mention his financial supporters, the coal industry, or some invisible investment bankers, one of the Democrats largest supporters.
This isn't much of a surprise i.e. the dems oil up to business actually worse than the republicans. Enron was a good example, with the Clintons feeding at the trough, Harry Reid, and others, all guilty.
In my district, Sen. Ron Wyden poses as the champion of the little people while in the back room he tried to undermine Internet access by giving AT&T the 5th largest dem contributor a sweetheart deal, until the Oregon Cable Board stood their ground.
Same old song: Libnazi culture of grievance.
Obama's taking his plays right out of the liberal playbook. Nothing new on this post. Knock yourself out, Barak...
Bad luck again SPfool,everbody knows the Enron top brass and Bush were buddies .And of course it has been made crystal clear to the american people and especially the californians that past power shortages were NOT atributed to lack of nuclear plants,but only to the manipulation of enron traders and arbitrage department,manipulating the supply of electricity,even provoking power shutdown in order to hike the price of electricity .I thought you ought to know all that ,as you have veen complaining about power shortage a few times,pointing the finger at the ecologsists .So it is my pleasure to correct you once again,it was Enron, you know ...the Bush buddies .
Damn you know so little ...
The tax credit is only for low income and lower middle income and he plans to pay for it by raising income taxes and social security taxes on the rest of us. And have you heard him say he will also be giving free education and job training to the black criminals he think s have been treated so unfairly? He is such a racist.
As for his having more delegates, if the delegates had been required to be distributed according to the populat vote, at this point it would be a dead tie.
Count them up yourself - you can go to election results and do the math. So why have the delegates been going against the will of the people?
And why does the media keep saying there is no way Hillary can 'catch up'? Even Keith Olberman is even taking an ax to her - he is the worst person in the world as far as I'm concerned.
It will be clear very soon that she has the majority of the poplular vote and that the delegates are not giving us any kind of democracy or fair representation.
The reason the entire media machine is pushing and pressing so hard right now to hurry up and find a solution is because the popular vote is a tie right now and it will go in Clinton's favor in May and then they will have an even harder time explaining why she doesn't have the majority of the delegates. The media is so biased against her. THis speech by Obama was HER IDEAS FROM LAST WEEK regarding the mortgage problem, right down to the dollar amount. So do they all run headlines that he stole her ideas? Heck no. Do they run headlines that he had to have know the minister was anti-semitic and racists because he wrote in right into the church newsletter? No.
Hillary has universal coverage, he does not. Hillary has an economy that is fair for everyone. He does not. Hillary is not arrogant or a hypocrit like Obama.
Listen to the media people and 'Drink the Kool Aid'. Go ahead.
Hey it is really weird that no one does actually give us the totals for actual votes by people, including Florida and Michigan, where I believe they are actual US citizens there who voted.
..Obama can nominate Mr. Rezko as secretary of HUD...?!
you people hurt sp4's feelings...
Clinton has 13,293,925 votes and Obama has 13,451,725 counting Fl and Mi because they did have primaries where real people went to the polls. That is only a difference amongst primary voters of 157,800 votes. I agree she is staged to win the primary vote.
People discovered last week Hillary was lying.
Can you imagine????
Other subjects we'd love to hear her on:
Greasy Commodity trades
Mr. Hsu
Mr. Chung
White Water
Law firm billing records
Chinese and russian campaign funds
Travel office scandal
FBI records scandal
Vince Foster
Go ahead, Hirrary...
Obama advisor: US Jews hinder peace
Obama advisor Merrill 'Tony' McPeak is a longtime anti-Israel critic who slammed American Jews for acting against US interests
WASHINGTON - General Merrill 'Tony' McPeak, Senator Barack Obama's military advisor and co-chair of his presidential campaign is a longtime anti-Israeli critic who has slammed Israel harshly during his career, according to an inquiry by conservative American media outlets.
McPeak, who served as the chief of staff o the US Air Force before retiring in 1994, made headlines over the past week after accusing former President Bill Clinton of McCarthyism. Yet as it turns out, over the years he has criticized Israel for failing to withdraw to the 1967 borders and charged American Jews were preventing American pressure that would lead to a Mideast peace agreement.
The examination of McPeak's career, undertaken by conservative magazine American Spectator among others, revealed that the general adopted a harsh anti-Israeli line in interviews he submitted to and articles he published. According to the magazine, beyond his affinity for alcohol, which saw him detained for drunk driving a year ago, McPeak also appears to take great pleasure in slamming Israel and pro-Israel Jews.
'Large vote in favor of Israel'
In an interview with The Oregonion about five years ago, McPeak argued that the influence exerted by American Jews is responsible for the lack of progress in the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. According to the general the problem was New York and Miami.
...he's not a ground-pounder...he's a jet jockey. For whatever reason, he seems to think his expertise is now counterinsurgency and non-conventional warfare.
Quoting the article:''Too often we've excused and even embraced an ethic of greed, corner cutting, insider dealing, things that have always threatened the long-term stability of our economic system.' Obama said.'
That would be an ethos of greed, Senator, not an ethics of greed. The problem begins and ends with our government. It was our government that made this kind of situation possible by establishing a fiat currency. The system will work, but only at the price of repeated bouts of inflation and astounding crashes. Our accounting standards have morphed into our tax code and our tax code is COMPLETELY incomprehensible, even for those who have spent a career studying it.
...that REALLY will fall on deaf ears, in this room!
looking forward to reading these comment's next year aorund this time
If Mr. Obama wins ,we will see how the tune will change!!!!!!!
...tune? Obama's?
Personally, I give Hillary an even chance of dealing him out.
Dick Cheney Donates More to Charity than Barack Obama and Al Gore Combined
Posted In: Al Gore , Barack Obama , Dick Cheney . By Devil's Advocate
Barack Obama and his wife Michelle gave $10,772 of the $1.2 million they earned from 2000 through 2004 to charities. Pathetically, this is less than 1 percent of their total income.
In 1997, Al and Tipper Gore contributed just $353 to charity of their total $197,729 in adjusted gross income. It is a good thing that Al Gore wants to tell everyone else what to do with their money, however.
Hillary Clinton failed to disclose all of her 'charity.' Good for her taking a stand against the intrusive income tax. I am kidding of course.
Contrast these number with Dick and Lynne Cheney. In 2005, the Cheneys gave more than three-quarters of their income - $6,869,655 - to several charities, including George Washington University's Cardiothoracic Institute and a charity for low-income high school students in the Washington, D.C. area, Capital Partners for Education.
This is not an anomaly either. The fact of the matter is that Conservatives give more to charity than liberals. Also read this if you do not believe me. The numbers are crystal clear.
The reason for this is obvious. Liberals believe that charity only counts if it is given via government force. Conservatives believe it is their responsibility to give. Nevertheless, it is ironic that Conservatives have been labeled as not caring about the poor. The truth is that when Conservatives have to spend their own money, they are more generous. Liberals just tend to be generous with other people's money.
On the ABC television show 'The View' which aired Friday, Barack Obama implied his former pastor was contrite for his inflammatory and anti-US remarks. However, the AP did some research and found no evidence.
Democrat Barack Obama seemed to suggest in an interview aired Friday that his former pastor has acknowledged that his controversial remarks were inappropriate and hurtful, although there are no public accounts of the minister having done so.
Obama discussed his relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright on ABC's 'The View,' which was taped Thursday and aired Friday.
'Had the reverend not retired and had he not acknowledged that what he had said had deeply offended people and were inappropriate and mischaracterized what I believe is the greatness of this country, for all its flaws, then I wouldn't have felt comfortable staying there at the church,' Obama said.
Obama spokesman Bill Burton said the senator's remarks did not imply that Wright has expressed misgivings about his statements.
'Sen. Obama was clearly saying that were Rev. Wright not retiring, he would need to be assured that the reverend understood why what he had said had deeply offended people and mischaracterized the greatness of this country,' Burton said.
Wright, who officiated at Obama's wedding and his been his spiritual mentor for years, recently retired from the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. He became an issue in Obama's presidential bid in recent weeks when videos circulated of Wright condemning the U.S. government for allegedly racist and genocidal acts. In the videos, some several years old, Wright called on God to 'damn America.' He also said the government created the AIDS virus to destroy 'people of color.'
In a highly publicized speech last week, Obama sharply condemned Wright's remarks. But he did not leave the church or repudiate the minister himself, who he said was like a family member.
Wright has not spoken publicly since the campaign controversy flared up. He canceled plans this week to speak in Florida and Texas.
Obama said Wednesday he has spoken with Wright since making his speech on the controversy in Philadelphia.
Obama's rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, said this week she would have parted ways with a pastor who made the remarks that Wright had made.
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Jeremiah Wright has not acknowledged that what he had said was inappropriate or wrong, which means Obama was lying on The View. (Photo courtesy LATimesBlogs)
The Chickens of Identity Politics Come Home to Roost? [Victor Davis Hanson]
Watching the parade of apologists for Rev. Wright’s hatred—“garlic noses”; “KKK of A;” “God Damn America;” “Condamnesia;” the U.S. deserved 9/11; America is no different from al-Qaeda; we caused the AIDs virus; Israel is a “dirty word” and sought an Arab and black ethnic bomb, etc—is, well, depressing. Instead of offering distance from Wright, far too many African-American professors and pastors interviewed on the cable stations the last few nights instead praised his brilliance and inspiration.
At best, there was a feeble ‘you just don’t get it’ about the venting and wink-and-nod culture of the black church. But the net message from the African-American liberal establishment, at least I fear, seems to be something like the following: ‘Wright is not going to offer an apology and we aren’t embarrassed about his ranting, which is not ranting at all, but rather historical and biblical exegesis which we endorse. And the problem is yours, not ours, since we expect exemption—given the history of race in this country—from your so-called norms of public discourse.’
This is what the triangulation of Obama has helped to unleash: most Americans will now doubt the moral authority of the African-American intellectual and religious community not just to question the questionable racial remarks of a Bill Clinton, Ed Rendell, or Geraldine Ferraro, but also the Wright-like crudity of a Don Imus or a Michael Richards. Context is now king.
This disastrous regression in race relations is the natural dividend of liberal identity politics, most recently brought to the fore by the wife of the first “black President”, the first “transracial” black Presidential candidate, and the “prophet” and “healer” Reverend Wright.
Barack Obama is on his way to a McGovern candidacy.
Did Cheney donate more to charity than Obama?Realy?Think for a second who is the most wealth of both and then remove your foot out of your mouth.
perhaps one of them is feeding his nose?
The Hillary smoking gun! What IS it with S7L's and the Clintons???WASHINGTON – While Hillary Clinton campaigns for the Democratic presidential nomination in neighborhoods where many have lost their homes in unscrupulous lending schemes, her campaign manager, Margaret “Maggie” Williams, sits on the board of one of the nation’s once-largest and now-bankrupt sub-prime mortgage lenders.
Williams joined the board of directors at New York-based Delta Financial Corporation in 2000, one month after a federal settlement was reached with Delta Financial over discriminatory lending practices.
As of September 2007, Williams owned 12,500 shares of Delta’s common stock, and by 2007 had earned at least $175,000 for her board obligations, according to company filings available in the Securities & Exchange Commission online database.
Clinton’s Tough Stand on Housing Crunch
Intently focused on the nation’s housing crisis in recent appearances, Clinton has been clear that sub-prime mortgage lenders, particularly in poor, working class urban neighborhoods shoulder much of the blame for the credit crunch.
“I am reminded every day as I meet with families and listen to their stories that the effective functioning of our financial markets isn’t just about Wall Street. It’s about Main Street,” she said recently.
In a proposal last week, Clinton suggested giving “a $30 billion lifeline to avoid a crisis for Wall Street banks” by providing assistance to at-risk communities and families facing foreclosure. In a speech earlier this week, the New York senator suggested protecting lenders from lawsuits by investors who bought mortgages expecting big profits off high interest rates.
“Many mortgage companies are reluctant to help families restructure their mortgages because they’re afraid of being sued by the investment banks, the private equity firms and others who actually own the mortgage papers,” Clinton said.
“This is the case even though writing down the value of a mortgage is often more profitable than foreclosing,” she said, offering legislation “to provide mortgage companies with protection against the threat of such lawsuits.”
Delta’s Sub-Prime Lending
But as it turns out, Clinton’s top aide is on the board of what had been — until its bankruptcy — the ninth-leading sub-prime lender in the nation, handling almost $800 million worth of sub-prime lending in the third quarter of 2007 alone, according to National Mortgage News.
Delta Financing — and subsidiary Delta Funding — made much of its money by turning around and selling its loans at a profit — either through securitization or straight sale. Financial statements and federal filings indicate that Delta made huge profits between 2004 and 2007 mostly by refinancing loans to homeowners with moderate and middle incomes, in urban neighborhoods.
In 2006, it reported a net income of $28.8 million compared to $18 million a year earlier. It also originated a record $4 billion in loans that year, a 5 percent increase over 2005. In 2006, it had increased its line of credit by $500 million to a total of $1.75 billion.
Te average interest rate on a 30-year mortgage is 6.25 percent. Financial sources and the company’s public records show that in the last decade Delta brokered thousands of fixed-rate refinancing loans with rates of anywhere from 11.3 to 13.6 percent.
Reports provided by the Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council (FFIEC), an inter-agency body that proscribes standards for U.S. financial institutions, found that in 2006 the vast majority of Delta’s refinancing loans had rates of around 13.3 percent. The average rate on home mortgages was 14.9 percent.
“They were basically trying to extract whatever blood they could get away with and then sell their loans on the secondary market,” said Irv Ackelsberg, a Philadelphia attorney who assists homeowners in complaints against lenders and brokers.
Industry experts say the company’s demise did not come from its struggle against various lawsuits or foreclosures, but its being a victim of the credit market. The value of its loan-backed securities plummeted at the same time its investors stopped buying new loans. Delta’s creditors soon came calling and the company couldn’t keep up with its own financing agreements.
Delta’s status is in the hands of a federal bankruptcy judge. All operations out of its Woodbury, N.Y., headquarters have ceased.
The Williams Difference
Williams joined Delta’s board less less than a month after one federal official said Delta’s practices were “turning the American dream of homeownership into a nightmare.”
At the time, Delta had a 5 percent foreclosure rate nationwide — double the industry standard — and was in the midst of settling several state and federal lawsuits that alleged predatory and discriminatory lending practices.
Williams, now 53, was between jobs with the Clintons when she got the overture to join the board at Delta. She had worked as the former first lady’s chief of staff from 1993 to 1997, and had just become president of Fenton Communications, one of the largest public relations shops in the country in 2000. It made her the highest-ranking African-American woman in a top 50 public relations firm in the country. Williams joined Bill Clinton’s Harlem office in 2001. She later became a partner in management consulting firm Griffin Williams.
The Clinton campaign did not return requests for comment from FOXNews.com, but according to a June 2000 article in Directors and Boards magazine, Williams spent the six months prior to her decision to join the board asking a lot of questions and making a flurry of calls to Hugh Miller, president and CEO of Delta Financial Corp.
It was the period of time when Delta was embroiled in the state and federal lawsuits. According to the magazine, Williams said she was convinced that the company was enabling individuals who would otherwise not qualify for mortgages to get loans.
“There are people who miss payments and have bad credit for all kinds of reasons,” she told the magazine. “It is a very middle-American kind of problem, although I believe it does affect poor people disproportionately.”
Miller told the magazine he was most attracted to Williams’ skill at anticipating “issues and problems before they come up and then develop(ing) a battle plan. It’s something that we’ve previously been remiss in doing.”
Delta company officials would not elaborate on Williams’ role other than to say that “like other board members, Ms. Williams served in an advisory and oversight role and did not have a role in the day-to-day operations and management of the company.” A 2002 annual report, the only one found with this figure, shows Williams attended at least 70 percent of the company’s board meetings.
Predatory Practices
Delta, which declared bankruptcy in December 2007, settled lawsuits with both federal and state regulators in 2000, before Williams’ era, but has maintained dubious lending practices, allege consumer advocates in New York and Philadelphia.
“They were one of the worst and most abusive sub-prime lenders in New York City,” said Josh Zinner, co-director of the Neighborhood Economic Development Advocacy Project (NEDAP).
Zinner helped bring a 1999 lawsuit against Delta Funding through the New York State Banking Department and then-state Attorney General Eliot Spitzer’s office. The case was settled with an agreement that included $12 million in payouts to borrowers. It has been caught up in court ever since over the price tag.
A separate class action suit against Delta by some 67,000 New York borrowers in 1998 is also ongoing, according to attorneys for Lopez v. Delta Funding Corp. In that case, the company agreed to settle on claims that Delta violated federal and state statutes governing fair lending practices. The plaintiffs are appealing for additional restitution.
In March 2000, the federal government charged Delta with violating consumer protection and fair lending laws by approving and funding loans regardless of the borrowers’ ability to pay, paying unearned fees and kickbacks to brokers and disproportionately charging African-American females higher rates and fees than “similarly situated” white males.
The immediate settlement of the suit filed jointly by the Department of Justice, Federal Trade Commission and Department of Housing and Urban Development did not result in restitution to anyone but an agreement by the company to adhere to stricter, fairer lending standards and to submit to greater governmental oversight.
Delta never admitted any wrongdoing in the New York or federal cases, and not everyone believes the company was as nefarious as the headlines made it out to be. Jonathan Pinard, a lending expert and president of the Empire State Mortgage Bankers Association, said Delta “stayed in the agreement” set out in the federal settlement and kept its nose clean. Later, when the sub-prime lending market went sour, Delta was “painted with a broad brush” as one of the bad guys, he said.
But since Williams joined the board, Ackelsburg has assisted clients embroiled in predatory lending schemes that involve Delta.
“(Delta) didn’t have as big a market share as they did in New York,” Ackelsberg said. “But the most unscrupulous brokers tended to work with Delta.”
He pointed to a near million-dollar settlement presided over by the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission in 2002, in which an African-American brokerage firm linked to Delta was found guilty of predatory lending and discriminatory practices in predominantly black Philadelphia neighborhoods.
In six of the cases named in the Taylor, Poindexter v. McGlawn & McGlawn and Reginald McGlawn lawsuit, the loans were signed with Delta Funding. At least four of the 10 loans had originated in 2000 or afterward.
Each of the individuals who received Delta loans through McGlawn & McGlawn also filed complaints with the PHRC against Delta Funding, according to commission sources. Those cases were all settled, but terms of the agreements are confidential. Delta officials did not respond to multiple requests for comment by FOXNews.com.
“I would say Delta Funding, in the ’90s in particular, sort of epitomized predatory lending,” said Zinner, who worked for the Foreclosure Prevention Project at South Brooklyn Legal Services at the time of the New York suit. After the 2000 settlement, Zinner said his group “didn’t get the high volume of calls (about Delta loans) … but we definitely got quite a few complaints.”
Projection: Clinton Wins Popular Vote, Obama Wins Delegate Count
March 28, 2008 02:31 PM ET | Michael Barone
The Clinton campaign has taken to boasting that its candidate has won states with more electoral votes than has Barack Obama. True. By my count, Clinton has won 14 states with 219 electoral votes (16 states with 263 electoral votes if you include Florida and Michigan) while Obama has won 27 states (I'm counting the District of Columbia as a state, but not the territories) with 202 electoral votes. Eight states with 73 electoral votes have still to vote. In percentage terms, Clinton has won states with 41 percent of the electoral votes (49 percent if you include Florida and Michigan), while Obama has won states with 38 percent of electoral votes. States with 14 percent of the electoral votes have yet to vote.
The Clinton campaign would do even better to use population rather than electoral votes, since smaller states are overrepresented in the Electoral College. By my count, based on the 2007 Census estimates, Clinton's states have 132,214,460 people (160,537,525 if you include Florida and Michigan), and Obama's states have 101,689,480 people. States with 39,394,152 people have yet to vote. In percentage terms this means Clinton's states have 44 percent of the nation's population (53 percent if you include Florida and Michigan) and Obama's states have 34 percent of the nation's population. The yet-to-vote states have 13 percent of the nation's population.
Thus the Clinton campaign could argue that Obama cannot win states with most of the nation's people even if he wins all the remaining eight primaries. Could argue—but I don't think that's going to persuade any superdelegates that Clinton is the real winner.
If there are no problems, no solution is necessary. When it comes to the payday loan industry and the valuable assistance that they provide, there aren’t very many problems, if any at all. Many customers have nothing but good things to say, due to the fact that, if used properly, these loans provide a valuable service, and help a person out when they are in trouble. However, many of the people in high places don’t see the value behind short term loans, and want to fix what isn’t broken. Some bipartisan fronts have outlawed the industry outright in several states, and even candidate Barack Obama wants to take a shot as well. We aren’t going to tell you how to vote, but remember that you have to make the right choice for the people’s right to financial independence.
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If there are no problems, no solution is necessary. When it comes to the payday loan industry and the valuable assistance that they provide, there aren’t very many problems, if any at all. Many customers have nothing but good things to say, due to the fact that, if used properly, these loans provide a valuable service, and help a person out when they are in trouble. However, many of the people in high places don’t see the value behind short term loans, and want to fix what isn’t broken. Some bipartisan fronts have outlawed the industry outright in several states, and even candidate Barack Obama wants to take a shot as well. We aren’t going to tell you how to vote, but remember that you have to make the right choice for the people’s right to financial independence.
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