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Obama, Clinton tout Democratic unity at joint rally (3rd Roundup)
By Chris Cermak Jun 27, 2008, 20:07 GMT
New York Senator Hillary Clinton (L) listens to Democratic Presidential hopeful Illinois Senator Barack Obama (R) as he delivers a speech to supporters at a campaign stop in Unity, New Hampshire USA, 27 June 2008. This was the first time Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have campaigned together. EPA/MICHAL CZERWONKA
Washington - Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton put on a show of party unity Friday after a tense 16-month Democratic nomination process, promising to move forward as allies to elect Obama the next president of the United States.
The two former rivals appeared at a rally together for the first time since the end of the primary race in the small town of Unity, New Hampshire, a site chosen for its obvious symbolism to bring the centre-left party together.
'I know that what we start here in the fields of Unity will end on the steps of the Capitol, when Barack Obama takes the oath of office as our next president,' Clinton said.
The former first lady urged her supporters to work as hard for Obama as they did in her own campaign, and spoke directly to those of them considering voting for presumptive Republican nominee John McCain in the November 4 general election.
'To anyone who voted for me and is now considering not voting, or voting for Senator McCain, I strongly urge you to reconsider,' Clinton said.
'A Democratic president is absolutely essential for America to once again fulfil the purpose of America,' she said.
Obama, who would be the first African-American president, showered praise on Clinton for making history with her own campaign by breaking barriers for women around the country.
'For 16 months Senator Clinton and I have shared the stage as rivals for the nomination,' Obama said. 'But today I can not be more proud, more honoured and more moved that we are sharing this stage as allies to bring about the fundamental change that this country so desperately needs.'
Friday's rally followed their first joint appearance Thursday since the final intra-party contests were held more than three weeks ago. Obama and Clinton appeared together Thursday in Washington at an event with the former first lady's top campaign donors.
Obama, a US senator from Illinois, wrote a personal cheque for 2,300 dollars - the maximum individual contribution - to Clinton's own presidential campaign and urged some of his own top donors to do the same.
New York Senator Clinton has suspended her campaign but remains 20 million dollars in debt, and she has sought Obama's help in raising money to pay off the unpaid tab.
The rally in Unity, a town where each candidate received 107 votes in a January primary, marked a clear change from the negative tone that had plagued the final months of their nomination fight - a reality not lost on Clinton.
'I was honoured to be in this race with Barack, and I'm proud that we had a spirited debate,' Clinton said, drawing chuckles from the crowd.
'That was the nicest way I could think of phrasing it,' she quipped.
In another sign of thawing relations between the two camps, Obama on Friday brought Clinton's former campaign policy director and long- time ally Neera Tanden on board his own campaign team. Tanden will join Obama's efforts to win back the White House as his director of domestic policy.
Clinton formally endorsed Obama on June 7, but the two had yet to campaign together. It still remains an open question whether Obama will pick his former rival as his vice president.
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Remarks by John McCain on his Comprehensive Plan for Energy Security
June 25, 2008
ARLINGTON, VA -- U.S. Senator John McCain will deliver the following remarks as prepared for delivery in Las Vegas, NV, today at 10:30 a.m. PDT (1:30 p.m. EDT):
Opponents of domestic production cling to their position even as the price of foreign oil has doubled and doubled again. They were against it when a gallon of gas cost two dollars. They are still against it when a gallon of gas cost well above four dollars. And we're left to wonder what it will take to shake their faith in this dogma of dependence on foreign oil.
[Wait a minute! Let's be fair here, Senator. Many rank and file Democrats support their leadership on this issue because they really do want to wean this country off of petroleum altogether. It is too much too fast, but there you have it and failing to address these people is a miserable failure on your part. It makes you look like a 'typical Republican' when you are anything but.]
As for me, my convictions place a priority on the well-being of people who cannot afford these ever-rising prices.
[Again, Senator, you had better be worrying about the likes of Rohm and Haas. Without companies like them, us poor folks won't have a job to drive to. A good many white collar middle class weanies won't have a job to drive to either. You had better get you head out of your ass and catch a gear.]
Every year, we are sending hundreds of billions of dollars out of the country for oil imports, much of it from OPEC, while trillions of dollars' worth of oil reserves in America go unused. As a matter of fairness, we must deal with the here and now, and assure affordable fuel for America by producing more of it ourselves.
[Fairness? I ask again, FAIRNESS? Who wrote this speech? What has fairness got to do with any of this? It is about the survival of the United States of American you frakkin' moosetwit!]
Fairness also requires that we reform the oil futures market. We must purge the market of the reckless speculation, unrelated to any kind of productive commerce, that has inflated the price of gasoline -- at the expense of working men and women across our country. With new regulations, I intend to assure integrity in oil-futures trading, and to protect the public interest.
[Here we go again! It is all the fault of those EVIL SPECULATORS! The very same EVIL SPECULATORS you and Senator Obama are relying upon to make your demonic cap and trade system work. You clearly do not have a clue about markets, capitalism or anything else of real importance. You are a DEMOCRAT, Senator McCain.]
Jon McShane is a physically handicapped mentally scarred for life and one ugly dude.
..is not my post. Get your own handle. What a weakling.
Don't worry, no one with an ounce of sense would think that was your post.
I think it's for the better of the Democratic Party if these two show a united front - how stupid if they didn't!
...a job interview for Hillary.
LARGE BUCKET AND BOX OF TISSUES BEFORE YOU START
------------------------------------------------
And now, the end is near;
And so I face the final curtain.
My friend, Ill say it clear,
Ill state my case, of which I'm certain.
Ive lived a life that's full.
Ive traveled each and every highway;
And more, much more than this,
I did it my way.
Regrets, Ive had a few;
But then again, too few to mention.
I did what I had to do
And saw it through without exemption.
I planned each charted course;
Each careful step along the byway,
But more, much more than this,
I did it my way.
Yes, there were times, I'm sure you knew
When I bit off more than I could chew.
But through it all, when there was doubt,
I ate it up and spit it out.
I faced it all and I stood tall;
And did it my way.
Ive loved, Ive laughed and cried.
Ive had my fill; my share of losing.
And now, as tears subside,
I find it all so amusing.
To think I did all that;
And may I say - not in a shy way,
No, oh no not me,
I did it my way.
For what am I, what have I got?
If not myself, then I have naught.
To say the things I truly feel;
And not the words of those who kneel.
The record shows I took the blows -
And did it my way!
HILLARY CLINTON
1947 - 2008
RIP
Hillary is far from a 'has been'! She'll be back!!
Never mind the typical character assassination against the democrats .As usual these are based on a lack of political intelligence .Nothing relates to the programs at all,except for the higher taxes that would be imposed on the oil tycoons .Hurray for that .All those multiples of billions of dollars should go back to the people .The oil companies have done nothing to merit these windfall profit .But notice how the republicans choose the side of these thieves by claiming that taxing them is simply impossible as then these companies would simply raise their prices even higher .In other words the republicans mean that the american people are less powerful than a few companies.Well until now that might be true.Perhaps time to repossess your own natural resources and spend the profit for your own needs like education and health care .Imagine what can be done with these hundreds of mbillions of dollars if these would fill the coffers of your own government.
'Never mind the typical character assassination against the democrats .As usual these are based on a lack of political intelligence '
For gods sake you unbelievable moron, either learn the slightest thing about what you lecture others on or shut the hell up.
'Dave
I told you so.'
He just promised to pay HER $20 million dollars of other peoples money. yet somehow you are stupid enough to be impressed by this.
This guy is a devout communist. His rhetoric has been heard many times the world over. Always with tragic results for the countries and their peoples. Many times with extreme hardship, starvation, extermination and millions of dead.
I have unfortunately read some of his articles and they all stink of taxing the rich till the pips squeak and nationalisation. The bloke is a damned Marxist. Bet he wastes all his holidays going to see that stuffed dummy Lenin in Red Square, who has been feeding the flies since 1924.
The guy is a pain in the arse to this site. Not one single thing he says is reflective of American life and practise. OK, it gives SP4 lots of bullshit to dissect with the artistry of a brain surgeon. But it pisses the rest of us off.
Why the hell some little prat in Belgium is so compulsively addicted to American politics and everyday events, is beyond imagination.
My own guess is that this piddling little jerk has nothing else to do and by the amount of time he spends on detailed American activities, knows bugger all about what goes on in his own crappy lump of real estate - Belgium ? where the hell is that ?
Oh, I know, it is that huge graveyard where 100,000`s of American and British dead are buried. Young guys who lost their lives preventing
his bloody Belgium from becoming a permanent annex of the greater Germany.
AND ! we did it TWICE !
So Tonni you little prick, if you love America THAT much, spend your time and money looking after our dead young men. But for them, you would not be able to write all this bullshit of yours.
For God`s sake, but mostly ours, go away and write your crap in the BELGIUM newspapers and LEAVE US ALONE ! M&C have a European section, stick your damned finger on THAT button and FORGET the USA. We will have no trouble in forgetting YOU !
ABOUT THIS:
'For God`s sake, but mostly ours, go away and write your crap in the BELGIUM newspapers and LEAVE US ALONE ! M&C have a European section, stick your damned finger on THAT button and FORGET the USA. We will have no trouble in forgetting YOU !'
Hey, moron. M&C is OWNED by a Brit. Why don't you crawl off this entire site? It isn't amerikan and anybody is free to post. Tonny from Belium is far superior in the intellect department than you braindead products of hillbillies intercoursing with pigs.
Never mind the typical character assassination against the democrats .
SP4 - or the one's they perpetrate on themselves and the republicans
As usual these are based on a lack of political intelligence .
sp4 - which we are to believe you possess?
Nothing relates to the programs at all,except for the higher taxes that would be imposed on the oil tycoons .
sp4 - we did that: it was called the windfall profits tax. This is why we do not explore in our own country. Want to see who's lowering taxes? Go to Ireland...
Hurray for that .All those multiples of billions of dollars should go back to the people .The oil companies have done nothing to merit these windfall profit .
sp4 - nothing...except spend billions in leasing... recovering, refining and distributing the oil...building port facilities, exploration, research and development, upgrading refining capability....employing millions....paying windfall profits taxes....and taking al the risks... Are these not something????
But notice how the republicans choose the side of these thieves
sp4 - what did they ever steal? Governments SELL them the leases. Honestly, I rarely meet someone who knows so little about something they rely on so much...
by claiming that taxing them is simply impossible as then these companies would simply raise their prices even higher .
sp4 - which is exactly what they do in Europe...by the way, what is a litre of regular there...now...?
In other words the republicans mean that the american people are less powerful than a few companies.
sp4 - while the dems, for a decade, greenlighted EVERY oil merger, sold influence to AMOCO, BP and numerous other oil xompanies...
Well until now that might be true.Perhaps time to repossess your own natural resources
sp4 - fact: we already OWN the ground! We don't even use it...how can someone BE so ignorant...?
and spend the profit for your own needs like education and health care .
sp4 - wanna see the stellar results of nationalized industry, just look up 'AMTRAK'
Imagine what can be done with these hundreds of billions of dollars if these would fill the coffers of your own government.
sp4 - Yes, like the dems $300 BILLION unfunded farm bill for rich farmers...wow..I'm impressed...
Tonny, inform yourself. You know less about the petroleum industry than a pig does Sunday.
when do you start Grade 1, EssPee.
Firstly, learn to spell, it is 'poster' NOT 'poater'.
Secondly, Oh deary me ! it is 'American' NOT 'Amerikan'.
Thirdly, Oh dear again ! it is 'Tonni' NOT 'Tonny'.
Fourthly, GIVE ME A KISS, you illiterate pig.
Pleasant dreams,, poof-ta, don`t play with it too much, you`ll make it sore.
The Telegraph quotes “a senior Democrat” saying that Bill Clinton told friends if Barack Obama wants his support, Obama will have to “kiss my ass.”
'Bill Clinton is so bitter about Barack Obama’s victory over his wife Hillary that he has told friends the Democratic nominee will have to beg for his wholehearted support.
Mr Obama is expected to speak to Mr Clinton for the first time since he won the nomination in the next few days, but campaign insiders say that the former president’s future campaign role is a “sticking point” in peace talks with Mrs Clinton’s aides.
The Telegraph has learned that the former president’s rage is still so great that even loyal allies are shocked by his patronising attitude to Mr Obama, and believe that he risks damaging his own reputation by his intransigence.
A senior Democrat who worked for Mr Clinton has revealed that he recently told friends Mr Obama could “kiss my ass” in return for his support.'
Good for Bubba.
'Hey, moron. M&C is OWNED by a Brit. Why don't you crawl off this entire site? It isn't amerikan and anybody is free to post.'
Well, the internet was invented by and is run by Americans, so get your jealous ninny ass off our internet. I won't go on yours whenever one is invented by Can-a-Duh.
Well ESS PEE, although I was a bit sarcastic saying you loved dissecting that prick from Belgium`s lunatic ravings, you did a superb job on his insane bullshit this time. Took him apart, bit by bit and spat him out.
Every point - a real googly. He probably cried his eyes out wondering where he went so wrong. A quote ;-
HOW CAN A MAN SMILE
AND BURST INTO SONG
WHEN EVERYTHING ROUND HIM
IS GOING BLOODY WELL WRONG !
ADOLF HITLER - 1945
Well done ESS PEE. The guy is a nutcase, who probably reads material he does`nt understand whilst locked in his padded cell each day and has visions of grandeur to become the world`s greatest political prophet and acknowledged Guru.
Don`t take any notice of that silly comment that follows your magnificent piece of analytical magic, you get that from elementary pupils who are only at the counting beads stage.
That the inbred, brain dead hillbilly brigade is out in force today.
So are the pseudointellectuals...
It takes all kinds - otherwise what a boring world if they were all as perfect as we are! And to get back to the article at hand - it just makes sense for Hillary and Obama to join forces if they value their party. Why be at odds at this point?
..you can bet Obama is polling on his putting Hillary out on the street corner for himself. He's gonna wanna know how it plays in Peoria, for sure.
This guy is no dummy. He beat the best, and has played the libnazi drive-by media who is already more than happy to help. This guy has a real problem and I'm interested in how it will play:
He HAS to campaign for HIGHER fuel prices!
The dems are sticking to the failed conserve-and-outsource fuel policy. If people truely vote their pocket books, this will be a real test.
'it just makes sense for Hillary and Obama to join forces if they value their party. '
Hillary values the 20 million dollars. Bill gave him the middle finger.
I don't happen to be privy to the 'inside' thinking of the Clintons, but I still say there is strength in unity.
I am just glad it cost the miserable incompetent child 20 million.
And I'm sure it's big enough!! What good would it do the Democratic Party if Obama and Clinton were at odds?
'What good would it do the Democratic Party if Obama and Clinton were at odds?'
None, that is why he is paying her $20 million dollars. To shut up and get with the hope 'n change9tm) happy BS.
I like Obama
...I do, but, unlike the poser above, I'm not voting for him.
Hail to unity!!!!!!!
WARNING !
All posters be on their guard, we have an impostor amongst us, marauding as the Grand Maestro himself ; SP4. A very dangerous virus.
The 3rd poster up from the bottom of page 3 IS NOT FROM OUR UNDISPUTED GURU OF ALL MATTERS INTELLIGENT - it is labelled sp4 !!
ESS PEE never lowers his unique qualifications and enormous ego by going into small print. This would be like Hussein Obama getting a smaller head, an impossible probability. It has happened before.
It is obviously some covert highly secret and organised operation conducted by the CIA - you know, the same gang of thugs who planned the departure of dear old JFK in Dallas and made a botched attempt to set up poor old Oswald as patsy for it.
Watch out, watch out - the Bogey man`s about.
The last poster is absolutely correct, I have noticed the counterfeit entries myself.
This is a serious threat to our entire credibility and impeccable standards of civilised, intelligent debate.
It only needs that insane little prick Tonni from Belgium or Noharness with his 'copy and paste' addiction to do this and the whole essence of these pages will disintegrate into a meaningless collection of forged waffle, with nobody knowing who said what.
...people STILL know when it's really me...
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DaveJun 28th, 2008 - 00:40:40
I told you so. I posted on this forum some time ago that after all the throat cutting and back stabbing they will all be singing kumbaya like nothing happened. Wouldn't you love to hear their thoughts. If you want a bunch of phonies runnig the white house in November then go for it people. But I for one don't want those hypocrits running this country and the chagentheir touting I guaranty is not the change you are going to like. Hold on to your wallets and your jobs. When they start raising corporate taxes hiring will hault and when they start assessing windfall profits taxes on the oil companies watch gas go even higher, but they are for the little guy-not! If they claim to be for the little guy why are so many billionairs and corporate giants giving to their campaigns? BO is just another slick politician. It will be great to come back at a later time if he gets elected and post another I TOLD YOU SO! Then I'll tell you to quit your whining.
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