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What a surprise!! Nothing else was working for him, so he is trying this!
'What a surprise!! Nothing else was working for him, so he is trying this!'
The old fellow is a point ahead in the polls with someone who has spent 65 million dollars more then he has. I'de say that things are working well for Mac.
'The campaign ad portrays McCain as the 'original maverick' and highlights his reputation as an independent during nearly 30 years in Congress,'
So McCain has 30 years in congress and 20 years in the Navy before that. 50 years of service.
Obama had 143 days in the senate before he decided he was ready to become president of the USA. Of course he did attend the 'damn America' church for 20 years...
This is from the Huffington post of all places:
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Why Obama Can't Win
....To earn the Democratic nomination, as Fred Thompson points out, Obama ran as George McGovern without the experience, a left-of-center politician who would meet unconditionally with Iran, pull us precipitously out of Iraq, prohibit new drilling for oil, and grow big government in Washington by all but a trillion dollars. In his general election TV ad debut, however, Obama pirouetted like Baryshnikov with a commercial Mike Huckabee could have run in a Republican primary. Obama now emphasizes his commitment to strong families and heartland values, 'Accountability and self-reliance. Love of country. Working hard without making excuses.' In this yet unwritten chapter of his next autobiography, Obama tells us he is the candidate of 'welfare to work' who supports our troops and 'cut taxes for working families.' The shift in his political personae has been startling. Obama has moved right so far and so fast, he could end up McCain's Vice-Presidential pick.
General-election Obama now billboards his doubts about affirmative action. He has embraced the Bush Doctrine of pre-emption saying, 'I will do everything in my power to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon...everything.' He tells his party 'Democrats are not for a bigger government.' Oil drilling is a consideration. His FISA vote and abandonment of public campaign finance introduce us to an Obama of recent invention. And as he abandons his old identity for the new, breeding disenchantment among his formerly passionate left-of-center supporters and, equally, doubts among the center he courts, he risks becoming nothing at all, a candidate who is everything and nothing in the same moment.
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In past campaigns, there have been extremely artful pivots to the center among candidates of both parties. Obama's turn to the right was an unmitigated disaster. Placing himself above other politicians meant that Obama - to maintain his 'authenticity' - needed to stick to his leftist principles and positions in order not to ruin his brand.
Alas, Obama could never come close to winning running on the same platform he ran on in the primaries. McGovern tried it and got slaughtered. Hence, the wild lurch to the center that confused even his most rabid acolytes, angered the left, and put off the great center of American politics who recent polls have shown moving toward McCain.
And what of McCain? The contrast is startling:
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In the defining moment of his life, McCain was willing to give everything for one thing, and that one thing was his country. Contrast that with Obama, who has told America that he is 'a proud citizen of the United States and a fellow citizen of the world.' Obama is the talented salesman who seduced one state after another saying 'Iowa, this is our moment,' 'Virginia, this is our moment,' 'Texas, this is our moment,' and then tells Europe, 'people of Berlin, people of the world, this is our moment.' How many times can Barack Obama sell the same moment to everyone, before he becomes Mel Brooks in 'The Producers'? Who is Barack Obama? His campaign, as it reupholsters him before our eyes, says we can never know -- perhaps because Barack Obama does not know himself.
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Perhaps many of us have underestimated the sheer power of McCain's life story, it's hold on the nation and effect on the voters. Certainly, as Castellano points out, the contrast with Obama is striking in that regard. McCain's trial by fire says something very profound, very deep about the man that is resonating with voters as they compare the two candidates. With a spectacular lack of success, the left (not the Obama campaign) has tried to paint McCain as a panderer, a flip flopper, and a man without character or conscience.
On the other hand, McCain's attacks against Obama are biting, caustic, sarcastic, and ringing true which is why he is staying close to Obama and why, in the end, all the re-invention Obama can muster isn't going to matter:
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' John McCain is a complete and well-formed man. Barack Obama is completing himself. As he moves to fit what he perceives to be a right-of-center country, he distances himself from the simple and authentic passion of a young candidate who once pledged 'Change We Can Believe In.'
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The major difference between them is in the core of the two candidates; one, rock solid while the other is molten - still forming under pressure and not yet completed.
..if Johnny is more interested in running HIS campaign than winning..
or a brain
Shelby Steele's recent book, 'A Bound Man: Why We Are Excited About Obama and Why He Can't Win' is a great discussion of the lack of substance which adds up to Obama.
Everyone's on the book bandwagon, and then some will proclaim it's the gospel!
No, sh*t, Batman. What else is new? I suppose next McCain is going to tell us the sky is blue. To the senile old fart everything is new, every day.
...if you are unable to inform yourself and need the childish retort, because a cogent thought is so far away for you, heck, be my guest, but certainly, you can come up with something better than get a life or brain.
Quick, put down the porn book, let go of yourself, pull up your pants, run upstairs and ask your mom if SHE has a better retort. Heck, we won't even know it's hers!
I always knew that McLame was nothing but a RINO, and now he's showing his true colors, by pandering to the anti-American, defeatocrat, whining libnazi lies being perpetrated by the communist MSM, about how bad off our country supposedly has gotten during the Bush admin. Nothing could be further from the truth, because the country is actually doing far better now than ever before, especially under any past demonrat admin. I realize that what I say as the truth is not acceptable to the fanatic, lunatic left wing fringe, but it doesn't make me wrong to say it.
It is obvious that you have in-formed yourself. Now, go get an education. Learn to think. That is IF you can put down the Bong long enough to find your underwear. As for childish retorts, what's the matter, somebody doing it better than you? Jealousy is a lousy counter-productive emotion, lamebrain.
Tzlk about childish retorts! What the he** is SP's, a porno retort? If anything, he is the king of childish retorts! He must have spent most of his childhood in the basement as he seems to be so obcessed with it. McCain is finally beginning to realize he better be putting some space between him and Bush if he wants to make a better showing in the polls - not win, mind you, just a better showing.
'I always knew that McLame was nothing but a RINO,'
LOL. The days you could get away with that are over. Even the 'deliverance' republicans have had a good look at Obama and gotten their minds right.
'The old fellow is a point ahead in the polls with someone who has spent 65 million dollars more then he has. I'de say that things are working well for Mac.'
Good lie, sad you are so bad at telling it.
He is just telling the truth Aug 6th, 2008 - 00:17:41
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The old fellow is a point ahead in the polls with someone who has spent 65 million dollars more then he has. I'de say that things are working well for Mac.
'Good lie, sad you are so bad at telling it.'
Heh:
Tuesday, August 05, 2008
'The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows the race for the White House is tied once again-- Barack Obama and John McCain each attract 44% of the vote. However, when 'leaners' are included, it’s McCain 47% and Obama 46%. '
So yeah, considering that Obama has practically spent the gross national product of Germany on this election, yeah pretty good for the 'ol boy.
Bill Clinton fails to give Barack Obama his approval as president
Bill Clinton has pointedly declined to state whether Senator Barack Obama was qualified for the White House, exposing a continuing rift at the top of the Democratic Party. [...]
A rift between Mr Obama and Mr Clinton could severely damage the Illinois senator's chances of prevailing over Mr McCain. After Mrs Clinton reluctantly conceded, Mr Obama's aides made clear that rebuilding bridges with Mr Clinton was a priority.
Bad blood could also endanger Mrs Clinton's hopes of winning the White House in 2012 should Mr Obama lose in November. The former First Lady is due to campaign for Mr Obama in Nevada on Friday and Florida on Aug 21.
Any suggestion that she was not doing everything she could to help Mr Obama could seriously damage her. So too could the suggestion that she could not control her husband, who often strayed off message on the campaign trail.
Mr Clinton was accused by allies of Mr Obama – though not the candidate himself – of playing the race card against his wife's rival.
Without being asked the question, the former president vehemently denied this. 'I am not a racist, I never made a racist comment. And I didn't attack him personally.'
Mr Clinton was castigated for comparing Mr Obama's South Carolina primary win with those of Jesse Jackson, who was also black, in 1984 and 1988. 'The South Carolina thing was twisted for deliberate effect by people who weren't for Hillary,' Mr Clinton told ABC.
'It was OK with me but, you know, these people don't have an office in Harlem. They haven't lived the life I have lived....
The interview – his first since Mrs Clinton's defeat – came as Mr McCain's campaign echoed Mr Clinton's April remark that it was Mr Obama himself who was playing the race card.
(As opposed to SP4, who comes off as an unmitigated kiss-ass)
McCain is basically complaining here about Bush's leadership, as well as the first 6 years when the GOP ran Congress essentially unencumbered even by a veto. Now the GOP'ers throw up roadblocks to everything, just to blame the Democrats for something. How can Bush, in the face of this, speak at the convention? What would he talk about? The mistakes McCain identified?
Obama talks about the future, while McCain complains about the past.
And SP4 has a visibility problem with his head up Bush's rear end. Cheney is not even going to attend the GOP convention, apparently. They probably thought he'd accidentally shoot someone. Cheney is the epitome of Bush's policy, and would serve as an unwelcome reminder of what got us into the current mess; economic, diplomatic, and military. The Iraqi government has had funds to spend since 2005 on reconstruction; yet the U.S. taxpayer has been footing the bill. Meanwhile, the Iraqi leadership cannot even agree on elections.
edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/05/cheney.convention/
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Vice President Cheney will be a no-show at the Republican convention in Minnesota, Republican officials said, citing a desire by Sen. John McCain's campaign to turn the page on the Bush-Cheney years.
www.nytimes.com/2008/08/06/world/middleeast/06surplus.html?bl&ex=121816 8000&en=13e70dd4b3a5f45b&ei=5087%0A
Soaring oil prices will leave the Iraqi government with a cumulative budget surplus of as much as $79 billion by year’s end, according to an American federal oversight agency. But Iraq has spent only a minute fraction of that on reconstruction costs, which are now largely borne by the United States.
The unspent windfall, which covers surpluses from oil sales since 2005, appears likely to reinforce growing debate about the approximately $48 billion in American taxpayer money devoted to rebuilding Iraq since the American-led invasion.
In one comparison, the United States has spent $23.2 billion in the critical areas of security, oil, electricity and water since the 2003 invasion, the report said. But from 2005 through April 2008, Iraq has spent just $3.9 billion on similar services.
www.voanews.com/english/2008-08-05-voa51.cfm
Iraqi lawmakers failed again Tuesday to resolve a dispute about power-sharing proposals for the oil-rich city of Kirkuk.
'Now the GOP'ers throw up roadblocks to everything, just to blame the Democrats for something. '
Yeah, they tried to throw up a road block on congresses vacation so they could get a bill passed to lower gas prices. The democrats went on vacation anyway.
'Obama talks about the future, while McCain complains about the past.'
Obama talks about everything. Obama promises everything. Obma [promises everything else too. He promises the opposite of what he promised yesterday and will make some more promises tomorrow that contradict the promises he made today. Promising isn't doing. Obama hasn't DONE anything other then sit in the damn America church for 20 years and marry a Klingon.
'Cheney is not even going to attend the GOP convention, apparently. '
He isn't running. He is retiring. Running against him isn't going to help.
'. Meanwhile, the Iraqi leadership cannot even agree on elections.'
They were debating them today.
'appears likely to reinforce growing debate about the approximately $48 billion in American taxpayer money devoted to rebuilding Iraq since the American-led invasion.'
Congress should come back from vacation and pass legislation making the Iraqis pay more of the reconstruction, and letting Americans drill for oil here. In case you didn't know, congress passes budgets, not the president. Congress is controlled by the democrats.
'Iraqi lawmakers failed again Tuesday to resolve a dispute about power-sharing proposals for the oil-rich city of Kirkuk.'
That seems to be all you have left to demand that we surrender on. You went for ages opposing the surge, demanding immediate withdrawal and surrender. Had we paid attention to you things would be disastrous here and in Iraq.
Promise of peace as Baghdad humbles rebel army
By Sabrina Tavernise
THE Mahdi Army, once the biggest defender of poor Shi'ites in Iraq, has been profoundly weakened in a number of neighbourhoods across Baghdad, in an important, if tentative, milestone for stability in Iraq.
It is a remarkable change from recent years, when the militia, led by the anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, controlled a broad swath of Baghdad, including local governments and police forces. But its use of extortion and violence began alienating
much of the Shi'ite population to the point that many quietly supported American military sweeps against the group.
Prime Minister Nouri Kamal al-Maliki struck another blow this spring when he led a military operation against it in Baghdad and in several southern cities. The shift, if it holds, would solidify a transfer of power from al-Sadr – who had lorded his once broad political support over the government – to al-Maliki, who is increasingly seen as a true nationaleader.
It is part of a general decline in violence that is resonating in the race to be the next American president, as well as in Iraqi politics: John McCain argues that the advances in Iraq would have been impossible without the increase in American troops known as The Surge, while Barack Obama, who opposed the increase, says the security improvements should allow a faster withdrawal of combat troops.
The Mahdi Army's decline – coupled with an al-Sadr-imposed ceasefire last year – also means that the Iraqi state, all but impotent in the early years of the war, has begun to act the part, taking over delivery of some services and control of some neighbourhoods.
'The Iraqi government broke their branches and took down their tree,' said Abu Amjad, a civil servant who lives in the northern Baghdad district of Sadr City, once seen as an unbreachable stronghold of the group. The change is showing up in the lives of ordinary people. The price of cooking gas is less than a fifth of what it was when the militia controlled local gas stations, and kerosene for heating has also become much less expensive. Shopkeepers and market traders say they no longer have to pay protection money to militiamen. In some cases, employees with allegiances to the militia have been fired or transferred.
In a further sign of weakness, Shi'ite tribes in several neighbourhoods are asking for compensation from militia members' families for past wrongs.
The American Republic returns on September 11, 2008,
A Letter to The United States Congress and to The American People
Americans have lost their way by choice and coercion by those that wish to have it all. Those Americans that have plenty are not bothered by the confusion and rape of the land and its people. The ones that outnumber the wealthy are the ones that suffer in America. The idea of a Republic of America was originally thought to be a perfect form of government, but the ones that made the choice to write on paper their ideas for a perfect form of government, were themselves imperfect, which did not make for a perfect document. The document called the Constitution is a promise to Americans to protect and to serve our Nation with truth. That has not happened, thus the discord within our nation to Americans.
Our Nation, our Homeland has been sold, raped, and ravaged by many outsiders and insider traitors, that have allowed our eagle our National symbol to be locked in a cage with little sustenance. Our Star has been buried in the sand with the trash of other nations.
This is not acceptable, and will be resolved. Our current Congress has forsaken our nation by giving little and taking so much for themselves and their financial supporters. Congress has allowed Capitalist Businesses from within and out to take over our Nation and rule by the power of selfish money and lies.
Our Great and once powerful Military is also ruled by those that give false and deceptive orders and not true commands. They, the soldiers of our fortunes are engaged in ambiguous battle campaigns under False Flag counter intelligence propaganda. Human lives on all sides are dying for the few that have lost their way thru choice.
Our President, our leader of our Nation has with his advisors and financial empire brokers, reinforced the ultimate crime to humanity by lying to himself, his family and his country. Our business leaders have lied to our Nation and prostituted our ingenuity to others for unnatural profit.
There are too many Americans that have some or little or none, and that Ladies and Gentlemen is not acceptable. Congress and others have failed to provide even the basics for our Nation to thrive. Too many selfish secrets, which many are known amongst a few is tearing our Nation and Planet apart. And allowing those that know what lies behind the looking glass, to control the masses at will.
There is too much advertised hatred and racial prejudice that is fed by ignorance and choice. Religions have taken front seat to freedom and truth, thus confusing those that wish to know the truth by self choice.
On September 11, 2008, in Los Angeles, California, United States of America, we Americans can and will make a choice to free our Eagle from its cage of captors, allowing it to be stronger and fly higher than ever before, and unearth and restore our Star to its rightful brilliance from the sand of trash of other Nations, and take back our country from those that have stolen it from us all. Annuit Copetis.
We have learned from the past, and we have learned from the present, so now we will make a choice to either continue with America as is, or Change it to a True Republic that truly represents the sincere interests of it people and other Nations. It is not an impossible task to overcome, all it takes is an honest choice and the will to sacrifice.
We are a Legion of many, who will live a life of peace, and have respect for all living things, while having considerations for those who are different, and look for ways to truly accommodate those who are slow in understanding.
We support the poor, helpless, and defenseless people. We support the freedom of Women, we support the sane treatment of animals and the environment, we support the freedom of religion and expression. We do not support ignorance, period.
We are a growing nation of people that encourage all Americans to become part of the New American Republic!
CHANGE FOR AMERICA FOR AMERICANS!
NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM
Judah Ben-Hur, Sui Juris
Ambassador
The American Republic
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A Sovereign Republic
The whole truth (something a neo-con hates). In 6 major polls:
RCP Average 07/23 - 08/05 -- 47.5 44.3 Obama +3.2
Rasmussen Tracking 08/03 - 08/05 3000 LV 47 46 Obama +1.0
AP-Ipsos 07/31 - 08/04 833 RV 48 42 Obama +6.0
Gallup Tracking 08/02 - 08/04 2674 RV 47 43 Obama +4.0
CNN 07/27 - 07/29 914 RV 51 44 Obama +7.0
USA Today/Gallup 07/25 - 07/27 791 LV 45 49 McCain +4.0
Pew Research 07/23 - 07/27 1241 RV 47 42 Obama +5.0
Out of 6 polls McSame is ahead in one, I guess to a liar that is 'ahead'. To normal people that when a person is an average of 3.2% ahead (in 6 different polls) of the other person they are actually 'ahead'. I guess reality really sucks to you guys?
So McCain says the U.S. is worse off than 4 years ago - why not go back about 8. And is he going to point out just why that is? And it's reported Cheney won't be at the convention, but will be somewhere else? And just where might that be - in bed with the covers over his head!
...in that, with all of the softball libnazi press, those polls have not changed ONE BIT since the last time you ran them up the flagpole.
With all of the drive-by libnazi propaganda about Obama, he is stagnant in the polls. This is very interesting considering MCCain can hardly even get on TV.
More interesting is the fact that for 7 years, we've been told the USA is doing worse, even when we had record employment, record growth record tax receipts and low inflation.
Now we are told that we are worse off, after being told things were bad to begin with. This is libnazi press at it's best: Push the news line forward with the worst story possible and then gag it when it gets better. This why stories on Iraq dried up: success broke out.
No, you will never see the libnazi drive-by media go to Illinois and look at the glaring issues Obama has ignored, or his cozy connection to big coal, or his domestic terrorist buddies, because that would just not be good for their candidate.
As for bong boy and basement whacker, just keep doing what you are doing. Stupidity has a way of showing itself.
'Stupidity has a way of showing itself.'
And you do it every post
there goes EssPee talking about himself, again.
'Out of 6 polls McSame is ahead in one,'
This is a new set of poll numbers, Hussein had a good day.
We have been through this before, there are several polls that have sampling errors that are skewed toward democrats and any automated phone poll that calls a house and asks the recipient to press buttons for 5 minutes is skewed toward idiots who don't have anything to do. Regardless, when I posted that the Rasmussen poll was the latest one out so no, not a lie. Congratulations, Obama has closed that big 1 point gap.
And Obama has only spent 65 million more to get to this (even with the cnn poll that had 14% more democrats) statistical dead heat.
Why hasn't he blown the old boys doors of after spending so much of George Soros' money? Could it be that flooding the airwaves with Hope 'N Change(TM) doesn't make up for being a socialist with a blank resume and friendships with every anti-American loser that ever stomped on the flag?
Here, eat up:
Obama stalls in public polling
By DAVID PAUL KUHN
In the two months since Barack Obama captured the Democratic nomination, he has hit a ceiling in public opinion polling, proving unable to make significant gains with any segment of the national electorate.
While Obama still leads in most matchups with John McCain, the Illinois senator’s apparent stall in the polls is a sobering reminder to Democrats intoxicated with his campaign’s promises to expand the electoral map beyond the boundaries that have constrained other recent party nominees.
That gap between expectations and reality comes as Democrats enjoy the most favorable political winds since at least 1976. At least eight in ten Americans believe the nation is on the wrong track. The Republican president is historically unpopular. From stunning Democratic gains in party registration to the high levels of economic anxiety, Obama should have a healthy lead by almost every measure. Yet, in poll after poll, Obama conspicuously fails to cross the 50-percent threshold.
ABC News Polling Director Gary Langer asked, “If everything is so good for Barack Obama, why isn’t everything so good for Barack Obama?”[..]
In Gallup’s last national poll prior to the 2004 party conventions, for example, John F. Kerry led President George W. Bush 47 percent to 43 percent. In 2000, also in Gallup’s last national poll prior to the party conventions, Bush led former Vice President Al Gore 46 percent to 41 percent.
Who answers these so-called polls? No one I ever heard of!
Now that we've spent years propping up Iraq, and in the process setting up Iran in a stronger position - when the hell do we get al Qaeda?
We've exchanged one potential problem for several real-time ones. Musharraf could not even attend the Olympics (which offended his Chinese friends) for fear of being thrown out of office in Pakistan. The Taliban and al Qaeda are now firmly established in a country WITH nuclear weapons, thankfully controlled for now by the Pakistani Army. Now, who controls the Pakistani Army? Who runs the ISI?
Iran has cut energy deals with everyone, and more sanctions will be useless.
We've spent a fortune in years, lives, and dollars to paste Iraq back together, more or less, and they can't even agree on how to divide oil revenues, or hold an election.
Reduction of violence, in the end, was the easier part - first we paid off the Sunni to shoot at the other guy; and then the surge provided endless time for the Iraqi Army to recruit and train (more or less) by stretching from the original 6-month surge to 'forever'. The number of U.S. troops at the end of 2008 will exceed that number BEFORE the surge. So how is the surge over?
The real problem (as usual not comprehended by the various imbeciles supporting this mess of over 5 years' duration) is that we have zero assurance of long-term stability. WE are paying for Iraq's reconstruction, and their $80 billion of revenues are in the bank (or the pockets of the politicians and their cronies). The ministries are incompetent, corrupt, or both. The Iraqi people want us to LEAVE; not remain in bases. Now that we've scotch-taped together something called 'Iraq', with the Kurds looking to be separate, we've gotten the violence to a level that no civilized country would put up with; and we call that 'success'.
The most interesting part is the disintegration of the Mehdi, brought about largely by their own corruption. This is good news for al-Maliki, as al-Sadr would have been able to get more of his 'lists' elected (assuming we ever HAVE those provincial elections). Yet the Shia remain the actual majority, and al-Maliki is of course Shia.
The Sunni need jobs; and this is more talk than accomplishment. The Kurds need to be satisfied, and feel that they're not losing their own oil revenues. The Turkmen and other groups have their own agendas.
The abating of violence from more extreme levels is welcome news for the inhabitants (4 million of which are refugees who've lost their homes and their livelihoods), and the infrastructure, poor to begin with, is non-existent. Power, water, roads, garbage collection, health care.
No one knows what happens when U.S. forces are reduced, and away goes their real-time support of the Iraqi forces.
Only a brainwashed idiot sees all of this, as compared to 2002, as 'success'. Iran's position massively strengthened. China and India helping to raise energy costs. The Taliban essentially controlling Afghanistan outside of Kabul, and no plan to combat their influence (another POLITICAL problem more than a military one; and in a place FAR less industrialized than Iraq). Russia re-energized, and not cooperating with Bush even a little bit.
Shame on this Adminstration, and the ass-kissers too dumb to understand what's happened; grasping at straws while the barn burns down.
And poor McCain at one moment supporting the use of tire gauges, and then pooh-pooing a simple means of energy efficiency, supported by the AAA and NASCAR, to reduce rolling resistance on millions of cars, increasing mileage, at no cost. The GOP is playing with trifles, while the economy tumbles along with the banks and housing.
Comes OUR November elections; what will be on the public's minds? The economy, or Iraq?
McCain ad: 'We're worse off than we were four years ago'
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Now, if the imbeciles continually supporting these failures could get a clue; as even McCain has identified some of the mistakes ...
Bush is busy criticizing the Chinese leadership, yet again, while attending their Olympics, in a giant moment of national pride for Asia.
Way to go, asshole. Timing IS everything.
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/03/AR200808030040 6.html
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Despite long insisting that sports and politics don't mix, U.S. President George W. Bush will have a hard time keeping them separate when he visits China this week for the Beijing Olympics.
He faces a delicate balancing act of depicting himself as just another sports fan cheering on his nation's team while nudging his communist hosts to clean up their human rights record.
On the ground in Beijing, Bush must weigh the risks of offending the sensibilities of an emerging -- and increasingly influential -- world power against demands by rights advocates, religious conservatives and leading lawmakers at home to be more forceful.
(Like China gives even ONE damn about what our lame duck has to say).
But Bush's presence at the Games, a public relations coup for the Chinese in what they see as something of a international coming-out party, will be fraught with political symbolism reflecting his policy of quiet engagement.
The administration's low-key approach is built in part on growing recognition that it needs China's help to curb North Korean and Iranian nuclear ambitions, thus limiting U.S. leverage to press the one-party state for political reforms.
Washington is also mindful of Beijing's increasing economic clout. China, the world's third-largest economy, is not only a huge investor in U.S. securities but its cooperation is vital if Washington hopes to reduce its trade deficit with Beijing, which ballooned to a record $253 billion last year.
As Carville said, 'It's the economy, stupid'.
The Iraq situation, as it essentially always has been, is a POLITICAL problem. If Iraq had had a capable military, the could have squelched their OWN problems. Bremer officially removed that army, in what many later recognized as a major-league blunder.
The American people need some grasp of reality - they panicked and begin looking for drilling in the Gulf to reduce oil prices, but those prices recently backed off by $25/bbl on their own due to the economic outlook.
Now; back to what the voters will give a damn about.
www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a6lcyASKbxXM&refer=home
Aug. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Freddie Mac, the U.S. mortgage-finance company hobbled by record foreclosures, slashed its dividend at least 80 percent after posting a quarterly loss that was three times wider than analysts' estimates.
Freddie dropped as much as 17 percent in New York trading and the larger Fannie Mae declined 14 percent on mounting concern that the government-chartered companies will sacrifice shareholders to bolster capital and avoid a bailout by the Treasury. Freddie doubled its reserves for future home-loan losses to $2.8 billion, signaling Chief Executive Officer Richard Syron sees no end in sight to the worst housing slump since the Great Depression.
Freddie has 22,000 properties in foreclosure, the most since the company was created in 1970 during the Vietnam War, and now anticipates losing 26 percent on each loan, up from 22 percent. McLean, Virginia-based Freddie has plunged 76 percent this year on concern the company may not have enough capital to overcome delinquencies on the $2.2 trillion of mortgages it owns and guarantees. Syron said the company still needs to raise $5.5 billion and may slow purchases of mortgages to avoid breaching regulatory capital requirements.
``Neither we nor anyone else can predict when the housing market will recover and it would be folly for anyone to try to do so,'' Syron, 64, said on a conference call with analysts today. ``There's still a large amount of inventory to work through the system and record foreclosures continue to be the problem, pushing results down further.''
ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g291gQOSQ2h4XMvxv85yZGbu19BwD922PAV00
Last year, Freddie Mac paid Chairman and Chief Executive Richard Syron nearly $19.8 million in compensation even though the mortgage company's stock lost half its value. During the same period, Fannie Mae President and Chief Executive Daniel Mudd got compensation valued by the company at $12.2 million, including a $2.2 million bonus.
(Put them in jail to keep the Enron crowd company. Oh, wait - not until after their GOP campaign contributions are in)
Young Obama's Red Mentor
A careful reading of Obama's first memoir, 'Dreams From My Father,' reveals that his childhood mentor up to the age of 18 — a man he refers to only as 'Frank' — was none other than the late communist Frank Marshall Davis, who fled Chicago after the FBI and Congress opened investigations into his 'subversive,' 'un-American activities.'
In a belated story on the relationship, the Associated Press describes Davis as 'left-leaning.'
In fact, Davis was a member of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA, according to the 1953 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities of the Territory of Hawaii, which labeled him 'a bitter opponent of capitalism.' The report was introduced as evidence in the U.S. Senate Internal Security Subcommittee hearings probing the 'Scope of Soviet Activity in the United States.'
'Davis scholars dismiss the idea that he was anti-American,' the AP reports. But one of them, ex-University of Hawaii professor Kathryn Takara, acknowledges in a Ph.D. paper on Davis (not quoted by AP) that he'd been fingered as 'a Communist.'
Davis wrote militant poems as a black writer in Chicago, including one in which he hails the Soviet revolution: 'Smash on, victory-eating Red Army.' He also attacked traditional Christianity, titling one inflammatory screed, 'Christ is a Dixie N*****.'
two thirds of Americans think Congress should lift restrictions that prevent energy companies from exploring the outer continental shelf for oil and natural gas. President Bush, John McCain, most Republicans, and some Democrats support lifting the ban. Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid find themselves on the wrong side of the drilling question, and it has thrown their party into disarray.
All three Democrats are tangled on the same tripwire: Their friends in the environmental movement want to stop oil exploration. Unlike most politicians, who face public outcry when gas gets pricey, environmental groups are willing to argue that gas should to be more expensive in order to make alternative sources of energy seem cost-efficient by comparison. It’s not just that they oppose new drilling; they also support a windfall-profits tax on the oil companies, new restrictions on current oil production, and the elimination of tax provisions that allow energy companies to write off the cost of expanding refinery capacity.
By making gas cheaper, increased domestic oil production would prolong what environmentalists see as America’s harmful dependence on fossil fuels. These groups would oppose offshore drilling even if it had no direct impact on the environment.
Obama echoed this thinking in June, when a reporter asked him if high gas prices could help wean the U.S. from its dependence on oil. Obama answered that they could, even though he “would have preferred a gradual adjustment.” That same month, he said that McCain’s drilling proposal “would only worsen our addiction to oil and put off needed investments in clean, renewable energy.”
That was then. In July, Rasmussen released a poll showing that 67 percent of Americans support lifting the ban on offshore drilling, and now Obama appears to have reversed his position. If “a careful, well-thought-out drilling strategy” were attached to “the kind of comprehensive energy policy that can bring down gas prices,” he said in an interview with the Palm Beach Post, he wouldn’t “want to be so rigid that we can’t get something done.”
Obama’s reversal coincides with the news that Nancy Pelosi has given at-risk Democrats permission to publicly support offshore drilling, freeing them to take the popular position while she blocks any efforts to lift the ban. Pelosi refused to allow any votes on drilling before adjourning the House for a five-week August vacation. A number of House Republicans stayed in Washington to hold protest sessions, arguing that Congress shouldn’t be taking a vacation at a time when high gas prices have caused many Americans to cancel theirs.
article.nationalreview.com/?q=Mzk2M2U0ZmViNjYwMDI4MTA5ZDlhMjhmMjQ1N2E1Z Dc=
Keating Five, anyone? Read your damned history.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five#Glenn_and_McCain:_cleared_of_impropr iety_but_criticized_for_poor_judgment
On his Keating Five experience, McCain has said: 'The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do.'
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Anyone running for office has thousands of contacts over their lifetime, and McCain has had a lot more time to be influenced by phonies.
Charlie Black was part of his campaign, and had to leave. Phil Gramm was part of his campaign, and clearly was not going to provide economic enlightenment. These are people who would have INFLUENCE in a McCain White House (which I suppose would be renamed as the 'Black House')
abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4210251
McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates, according to the latest finding from government watchdog group Public Citizen. The group, which advocates for public financing of elections, has identified more than 2,300 well-connected individuals, known as 'bundlers,' who have solicited contributions from friends and associates on behalf of a presidential candidate.
McCain is known as a champion of campaign finance reform. His campaign Web site touts the senator's credentials as a reformer, stating that he has fought for 'greater transparency regarding the official activities of lobbyists' and the 'disclosure of how candidates and campaigns are funded.'
When it comes to disclosing how much lobbyists are raising for his presidential campaign, however, the group found that McCain has fallen short, even by standards set by the Bush/Cheney 2004 campaign which voluntarily disclosed on its Web site the names of bundlers who raised at least $100,000 and $200,000.
(So much for Campaign Finance Reform)
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Read about Black's ties to the tobacco industry:
www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Charles_R._Black%2C_Jr.#Black_and_t he_tobacco_industry
In 1993, Black assisted Philip Morris with organizing and operating its pro-smoking front group, the National Smokers Alliance.
Black helped defeat McCain's 1998 tobacco control bill
In 1998, McCain crafted a bill that was approved by his Senate Commerce Committee by a vote of 19-1 that would have raised the tobacco tax by $1.10 over five years, capped the amount of damages the industry would pay plaintiffs at $6.5 billion a year, limited the cigarette industry's ability to advertise, given the Food and Drug Administration the power to regulate nicotine, imposed up to $3.5 billion a year in fines if youth smoking did not fall by agreed-upon goals, and provided $28.5 billion in relief for tobacco farmers. Philip Morris opposed the bill and retained Charlie Black, to defeat the bill. Black was successful.
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080806/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
BAGHDAD - Iraqi lawmakers failed Wednesday to agree on a provincial election law and adjourned for the month, casting doubt whether U.S.-backed balloting can be held this year in the country's 18 provinces.
Parliament did manage to sign off on a $21 billion supplemental budget, a move the Iraqis hope will ease U.S. congressional criticism that they aren't paying their fair share of Iraq's reconstruction at a time of economic hardship in the United States.
(But they never SPEND the money!)
But the inability to approve the election bill dealt a setback to U.S. hopes for reconciliation among Iraq's rival communities despite the decline in violence. President Bush had telephoned Iraqi leaders several times over the past week urging them to reach agreement so elections could proceed by the end of the year.
The bill failed because Kurds, Arabs and Turkomen were unable to come to terms on a power-sharing deal for the multiethnic region around the city of Kirkuk, the center of Iraq's northern oil fields. Kurds consider Kirkuk their ancestral capital and want to incorporate it into their self-ruled region in the north. Most Arabs and Turkomen want Kirkuk to remain under central government control.
(Aside from the fact that using Paris Hilton as a launch point for an energy discussion is in itself hilarious, the facts in the article are accurate enough. This article published by the Christian Science Monitor gives the facts on offshore oil as an energy resource.)
(Bush lied on Iraq; and that should serve as a model as to how the GOP operates as they lie for McCain, and offer up misleading information)
features.csmonitor.com/environment/2008/08/06/will-paris-hiltons-energy -plan-work/
..... let’s say that under this plan we could get US oil consumption down to 13 million barrels per day by 2025. This is assuming we make no other reductions in oil consumption, and that American driving habits remain unchanged.
How does this timeline compare to that of offshore drilling? McCain said last week that offshore drilling could produce additional oil in a matter of months, but that analysis is – how to put this delicately – completely bonkers. A 2007 report by the Energy Information Administration found that drilling in off the coast in the Pacific, Atlantic, and eastern Gulf “would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030.”
What’s more, total domestic production would be increased by only 3 percent by 2030, according to the report.
And most of that oil is located off the West Coast, and the governors of California, Washington, and Oregon are vehemently opposed to any drilling off the shores of their states.
Worse off than 4 years ago - who would have thunk it - LOL
'The sounds of GOP desperation'
And speaking of desperation here is PB to remind everyone we should surrender to the islamists in order to make Bush look bad...
'Keating Five, anyone? Read your damned history.'
Ok, this is what you cut out of your 'damned history', because you are of course, a liar.
'Glenn and McCain: cleared of impropriety'
'McCain.. was cleared of all charges' 'Several accounts of the controversy contend that McCain was included in the investigation primarily so that there would be at least one Republican target.[19][20][21][8] '
'Anyone running for office has thousands of contacts over their lifetime'
Boy, Obama sure did pick up a lot of scumbags in his 143 days in the senate.
'Charlie Black was part of his campaign, and had to leave. '
Gee, do we want to run down the list of Obama advisers who have been booted out? Just yesterday one of Obamas many muslim outreach directors had to get out following questions about his ties to a radical Muslim imam and the Muslim brotherhood. Mazen Asbahi got tossed under the bus with Obamas other islamist friends Louis Farrakhan and Rashid Khalidi .
The Muslim-outreach coordinator to the presidential campaign of Barack Obama has resigned amid questions about his involvement in an Islamic investment fund and various Islamic groups.
Chicago lawyer Mazen Asbahi, who was appointed volunteer national coordinator for Muslim American affairs by the Obama campaign on July 26, stepped down Monday after an Internet newsletter wrote about his brief stint on the fund’s board, which also included a fundamentalist imam.
“Mr. Asbahi has informed the campaign that he no longer wishes to serve in his volunteer position, and we are in the process of searching for a new national Arab American and Muslim American outreach coordinator,” spokesman Ben LaBolt said in a statement.
A corporate lawyer at the firm of Schiff Hardin LLP, Mr. Asbahi tendered his resignation after he and the Obama campaign received emailed inquiries about his background from The Wall Street Journal. He did not respond to the email or a message left at his law office; the campaign released a letter in which Mr. Asbahi said he did not want to be a distraction.
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Here is more on the Mosque he attended:
www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/2566
Hamas members Oussama Jamal and Jamal Said join in ribbon cutting at terror park dedication with mayor and city officials
November 26, 2006
MIM: In what seems more a bribe then donation Chicagos Mayor Daley cut the ribbon to a park 'funded' by the Bridgeview Mosque Foundation at the same time that Mohammed Salah, one of their prominent members is on trial for terrorism and membership in Hamas.
Salah, 51, could face life in prison if convicted of charges including racketeering conspiracy, providing material support to terrorism and obstruction of justice. Also charged in the case were senior Hamas political leader Mousa Abu Marzook, currently a fugitive living in Syria, and Palestinian activist Abdelhaleem Hasan Abdelraziq Ashqar of Virginia.www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/251
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But prosecutors flatly rejected the defense team's call for information on any government infiltration of the Bridgeview mosque where Salah worships.
In the court filing, Assistant U.S. Attorney Joseph Ferguson decried the request as 'completely off the rails to the extent that defendant Salah purports to take up the cudgel for the Bridgeview mosque.'
The mosque, which gave money to several Muslim charities later shut down by the government amid terrorism-funding allegations, has long been a focal point of the federal probe into Hamas activity in the south suburbs.
'We know the FBI has had informants in the mosque before,' Deutsch said. 'And we know that the FBI has had an interest in the mosque in general'.www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/1707
Gee PB no wonder you like him. He wants to destroy the infidel as well.
'So much for Campaign Finance Reform'
You mean how Obama LIED about taking matching funds from the government? He pledged to do so you know.
Lets read about Obamas ties to the PLO and palestinian terrorism:
'Obama was asked recently in a forum with Jewish voters in Florida about his relationship with Palestinian activist Rashid Khalidi. Khalidi, an outspoken critic of the US policy in Israel, was an employee of the Palestinian Liberation Organization “at a time when that was a designated terrorist organization,” according to Daniel Pipes of the Middle East Forum.
Obama responded that he knew Khalidi because they both taught at the University of Chicago and Khalidi’s kids attended the same private “lab” school as Obama’s daughters. Obama stressed that Khalidi is “not one of my foreign policy advisers.”
Doesn’t this shrug-off ring a bell? Remember how Obama insisted that unrepentant terrorist William Ayres was just a “guy who lives in the neighborhood” and how he conveniently declared that “this isn’t the Tony Rezko I knew” as soon as Rezko was convicted on 16 counts of corruption?
Obama is lying about the extent of his relationship with Khalidi. The Woods Fund, which Obama co-chaired with Weather Underground pal Bill Ayres, approved grants totaling $70,000 in 2000-2001 to Khalidi’s organization, the Arab American Action Network. And in 2000, Khalidi held a fundraiser for Obama. In Pipes’ words:
“The financial relationship between Khalidi and Obama is important because it points to their relationship not just being social and intellectual but having a deeper base, that they are people who are working together towards the same end.”
As reported in an April L.A. Times article cited by Pipes entitled Allies of Palestinians see a friend in Barack Obama the Obamas hosted a “lavish farewell dinner” for Khalidi and his wife as they headed to Columbia University in 2003:
A special tribute came from Khalidi’s friend and frequent dinner companion, the young state Sen. Barack Obama. Speaking to the crowd, Obama reminisced about meals prepared by Khalidi’s wife, Mona, and conversations that had challenged his thinking.
His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been “consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases. . . . It’s for that reason that I’m hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation — a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid’s dinner table,” but around “this entire world.”
~snip~
At Khalidi’s 2003 farewell party…a young Palestinian American recited a poem accusing the Israeli government of terrorism in its treatment of Palestinians and sharply criticizing U.S. support of Israel. If Palestinians cannot secure their own land, she said, “then you will never see a day of peace.”
www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-na-obamamideast10apr10,1,2127 459,full.story
By the way, On finance Obama was busted in another lie:
Factcheck.org Says Obama Ad Uses Incorrect Figure on Oil Donors
August 04, 2008 8:30 PM
In his new TV ad in which he accuses Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., of being 'in the pocket of big oil,' Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, said that McCain's campaign took $2 million from 'Big Oil.'
'The truth is that McCain's campaign has received $1.33 million from individuals employed in the oil and gas industry, not $2 million,' rules Factcheck.org. 'We find the $2 million figure is based on a mistaken calculation.'
The Obama campaign says it got its figures from the Center For Responsive Politics.
But CRP today said 'It appears the Obama campaign is adding our data from January 2007 through May 2008 (our total then was about $1 million) to a total for June fundraising from oil/gas interests that was reported in the Washington Post on July 27. The Post reported that McCain and the Republican National Committee's Victory Fund raised $1.1 million in June alone from oil and gas executives.'
The Victory Fund is a joint fundraising committee some of which goes to McCain, some to the Republican National Committee, and some to state parties. 'Not all of the money the Victory Fund collects ends up in McCain's campaign account, although it's all intended to support his candidacy,' says CRP. 'So what's the bottom line? According to the Center for Responsive Politics -- that's us -- John McCain's campaign had collected $1.3 million from oil and gas interests through June. If you add in the money being collected by the Republican Party to support McCain's candidacy, the total figure could be $2 million, as Obama's campaign claims, or it could be a little less or a little more. But until the accounting is sorted out between the McCain campaign and the Victory Fund, we can't put a precise dollar figure on it.'
So, in other words, that $2 million figure is hardly authoritative. Some might even call it bogus.
blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/08/factcheckorg-sa.html
'Aside from the fact that using Paris Hilton as a launch point for an energy discussion is in itself hilarious, the facts in the article are accurate enough.'
Gee, Obama himself did the same thing. It seems even he knew that he is a substance less fad.
'“Andy Warhol said we all get our 15 minutes of fame,” says Barack Obama. “I’ve already had an hour and a half. I mean, I’m so overexposed, I’m making Paris Hilton look like a recluse.”'
It is an insult to Paris Hilton to compare the 2. Paris Hilton is actually qualified to do the job she has.
'This article published by the Christian Science Monitor gives the facts on offshore oil as an energy resource'
What it over looked is that speculators are driving up the price of oil by betting that congress won't do anything to fix the problem. (It's a safe bet too) If we were to simply vote to drill the speculators would see less incentive and the price per barrel would fall over night. Not to mention that increasing supply would also drive down the prices.
Obama and the democrats (pelosi) are not interested in getting the price of oil down obviously. No drilling, no tax breaks and no other energy sources allowed. They don't seem to mind shipping our wealth overseas while we have enough to cover our needs in the USA off shore. Had we been drilling here all along we would not be in this fix but the democrats filibustered 2 bills over the past 6 years that would have opened up domestic oil exploration.
'and that should serve as a model as to how the GOP operates as they lie for McCain, and offer up misleading information'
You have demonstrated yourself to be quite the liar here, and a traitorous idiot as well. Anyone else reading this should know that you have openly rooted for the defeat of the USA here and compared the terrorists in Iraq to the revolutionary army lead by Washington.
'McCain said last week that offshore drilling could produce additional oil in a matter of months, but that analysis is – how to put this delicately – completely bonkers.'
No it is not. We know were there is additional oil; off the cost of Florida, we know this because the Chinese are drilling for it while we are prevented from doing so. Drilling is something that we should have been doing ALL ALONG and have been STOPPED by the democrats.
'Iraq Parliament leaves w/no election law'
So are you going to use that as another excuse to surrender to the islamist terrorists? You are running out of them. Your invincible 'freedom fighters' have been defeated by the surge that you and obama opposed here. Your pet terrorist al Sadr has has his butt kicked in what you were saying was a glorious victory. You have been categorically wrong and it can be demonstrated by your posts here. You have given outright support to the islamist thugs that McCain knew the proper strategy to defeat.
Keep harping away on the election law, the rest of the of the benchmarks have been met by law or by fact and the delay in elections is all that you have got.
Think of it, your scapegoat is going to go out a success at something you were praying for him to fail at. Think about that. :-D
Barack Obama’s campaign is running on hope, and stalling out in public opinion polls:
In the two months since Barack Obama captured the Democratic nomination, he has hit a ceiling in public opinion polling, proving unable to make significant gains with any segment of the national electorate.
While Obama still leads in most matchups with John McCain, the Illinois senator’s apparent stall in the polls is a sobering reminder to Democrats intoxicated with his campaign’s promises to expand the electoral map beyond the boundaries that have constrained other recent party nominees.
That gap between expectations and reality comes as Democrats enjoy the most favorable political winds since at least 1976. At least eight in ten Americans believe the nation is on the wrong track. The Republican president is historically unpopular. From stunning Democratic gains in party registration to the high levels of economic anxiety, Obama should have a healthy lead by almost every measure. Yet, in poll after poll, Obama conspicuously fails to cross the 50 percent threshold.
ABC News Polling Director Gary Langer asked, “If everything is so good for Barack Obama, why isn’t everything so good for Barack Obama?”
So your candidate has spent 65 billion more then the other guy and they are still in a statistical dead heat. Maybe people don't want to elect someone with 143 days of experience in the senate, ties to crooks, terrorists, America haters and crackpots versus 50 years of public service.
ATV/Zogby Poll Toss-Up! McCain 42%, Obama 41% as Undecided Voters Increase
Obama loses support among his strongest demographic groups
UTICA, New York – A national Associated TV/Zogby International telephone poll of 1,011 likely voters conducted July 31-Aug. 1 finds Republican Sen. John McCain taking a razor-thin 42%-41% lead over Democrat Sen. Barack Obama in the race for the U.S. presidency.
The margin between the candidates is statistically insignificant, but demonstrates a notable turn-around from the Reuters/Zogby poll of July 7-9 that showed Obama ahead, 46%-36% in a four-way match-up that included Libertarian candidate Bob Barr of Georgia and liberal independent candidate Ralph Nader. McCain made significant gains at Obama’s expense among some of what had been Obama’s strongest demographic groups. For example:
* McCain gained 20% and Obama lost 16% among voters ages 18-29. Obama still leads that group, 49%-38%.
* Among women, McCain closed 10 points on Obama, who still leads by a 43%-38% margin.
* Obama has lost what was an 11% lead among Independents. He and McCain are now tied.
* Obama had some slippage among Democrats, dropping from 83% to 74%.
* Obama’s support among single voters dropped by 19%, and he now leads McCain, 51%-37%.
* Even with African-Americans and Hispanics, Obama shows smaller margins.
What does despertate mean? Something that McCain has come down with?
'Something that McCain has come down with?'
Like Obama and lung cancer from smoking 2 packs a day for 20+ years?
every one wit negatives comments and wateva remarks u have? trust me THE LORD'S WILL shall and will BE DONE!!! take it or leave it.even if its OBAMA or MCCAIN.
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