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The Hollywierds congregate after blowing off Hillary.
Obama’s Finance Director And Advisor: Owned Failed Bank That Cost Tax Payers $2 Billion
September 17, 2008 (abridged)
BREAKING THE BANK
The woman whom Barack Obama is crediting for organizing the Barbra Streisand fundraiser it held last night in Hollywood is also partially responsible for one of the greater banking collapses in American history.
Penny Pritzker, Obama’s national finance chair was, with her family, the half owner of Superior Bank, which was shut down in 2001 by the FDIC after it had lost nearly all of its more than $2 billion of assets on bad loans to high-risk borrowers, federal regulators said.
Pritzker has avoided media attention over the past week as reporters covering the Obama campaign sought comment on the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac debacle.
Pritzker also served as finance chair for Obama’s Senate run, and supported him during his time in the Illinois state legislature.
One reason Pritzker may have been enamored with Obama was his willingness to press legislation that loosened state regulatory policies for land developers and multi-family property owners.
Pritzker is also known to be close to Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett, a former political operative for Mayor Richard M. Daley, and the CEO of a housing and development company based in Chicago with ties to Obama going back to his Illinois legislature days.
Jarrett, by the way, is now considered to be the top candidate to fill Obama’s Senate seat should he be elected President.
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,423701,00.html (Abridged)
Lehman Brothers collapse is traced back to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two big mortgage banks that got a federal bailout a few weeks ago.
Freddie and Fannie used huge lobbying budgets and political contributions to keep regulators off their backs.
A group called the Center for Responsive Politics keeps track of which politicians get Fannie and Freddie political contributions. The top three U.S. senators getting big Fannie and Freddie political bucks were Democrats and No. 2 is Sen. Barack Obama.
Now remember, he's only been in the Senate four years, but he still managed to grab the No. 2 spot ahead of John Kerry — decades in the Senate — and Chris Dodd, who is chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.
Fannie and Freddie have been creations of the congressional Democrats and the Clinton White House, designed to make mortgages available to more people and, as it turns out, some people who couldn't afford them.
Fannie and Freddie have also been places for big Washington Democrats to go to work in the semi-private sector and pocket millions. The Clinton administration's White House Budget Director Franklin Raines ran Fannie and collected $50 million. Jamie Gorelick — Clinton Justice Department official — worked for Fannie and took home $26 million. Big Democrat Jim Johnson, recently on Obama's VP search committee, has hauled in millions from his Fannie Mae CEO job.
Now remember: Obama's ads and stump speeches attack McCain and Republican policies for the current financial turmoil. It is demonstrably not Republican policy and worse, it appears the man attacking McCain — Sen. Obama — was at the head of the line when the piggies lined up at the Fannie and Freddie trough for campaign bucks.
Sen. Barack Obama: No. 2 on the Fannie/Freddie list of favored politicians after just four short years in the Senate.
The cost to US Tax Payers for Keatings illegal dealings (with McCains help) ... 2.6 Billion
Hey Barbara...I disagree with you. Some women ARE stupid enough to vote Palin. I know...Ive bedded lots of 'em : )
'Stupid' women...have their 'place' :))
And if Im at a bar and some dame tells me she voted Palin, I will know Im already almost half way to that place : ))!!
Obama is so out of touch with the average American. He is very touchy feely with Hollywood fantasy celebrities. This wanna be messiah is now expanding on his elitist track and as proven by his lack of details on his hope and change policies for America... One can only pray that we don't devolve into the communist/socialist agenda he espouses.
'Hey Barbara...I disagree with you. Some women ARE stupid enough to vote Palin. I know...Ive bedded lots of 'em : )'
They would have to be stupid to give you a second look...
No one buys it btw...
$169,000
here's a link:
graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/09/10/us/politics/10fannie.graphic.jp g
You can google 'Fannie Freddie McCain contributions' and find plenty of info on it.
Irepeat since you are posting this all over...
To the above poster the link you referred to is:
Obama One of Leading Recipients of Fannie/Freddie Political ...
h**p://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/09/10/us/politics/10fannie.gra phic.jpg. How's that reform smell? 2. Posted by jp2 | September 17, 2008 1:24 AM ...
Just google it D**b A**
Obama One of Leading Recipients of Fannie/Freddie Political Contributions
Transcript -- Fox News 9/16/2008
HEATHER NAUERT: Barack Obama attacking John McCain once again on the economy and the market turmoil today. Our John Gibson has new information on the Democratic presidential nominee and the mortgage mess for us now. What have you got John?
JOHN GIBSON: Alright Heather. Lehman Brothers' collapse is traced back to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two big mortgage banks that got a federal bailout a few weeks ago. Freddie and Fannie used huge lobbying budgets and political contributions to keep regulators off their backs. A group called the center for responsive politics keeps track of which politicians get Fannie and Freddie political contributions. The top three U.S. Senators getting big Fannie and Freddie political bucks were democrats and number two is Senator Barack Obama. Now, remember, he has only been in the Senate four years but still managed to grab the number two spot ahead of John Kerry, decades in the senate, and Chris Dodd who is chairman of the senate banking committee. Fannie and Freddie have been creations of the congressional democrats and the Clinton white house, designed to make mortgages available to more people, and as it turned out, some people who couldn't afford them. Fannie and Freddie have also been places for big Washington democrats to go to work in the semi-private sector and pocket millions. The Clinton administration's white house budget director Franklin Raines ran Fannie and collected 50 million dollars. Jamie Gurilli, Clinton Justice Apartment Official, worked for Fannie and took home 26 million dollars. Big Democrat Jim Johnson, recently on Obama's VP search committee has hauled in millions from his Fannie Mae C.E.O. job. Now remember, Obama's ads and stump speeches attack McCain and republican policies for the current financial turmoil. It is demonstrably not Republican policy and worse, it appears the man attacking McCain, Senator Obama, was at the head of the line when the piggy's lined up at the Fannie and Freddie trough for campaign bucks. Senator Barack Obama, number two on the Fannie/Freddie list of favored politicians after just four short years in the senate. Next time you see that ad, you might notice he fails to mention that part of the Fannie and Freddie problem. Heather.
NAUERT: Wow, that's quite a report, begs the question -- where is John McCain on this?
GIBSON: John McCain is a measly $20,000 after over 20 years so he really doesn't even come close in the political contribution department.
NAUERT: Interesting. All right. John Gibson, great to see you, as always, excellent thank you.
Ha ha ha
John Gibson is known for being ANYTHING but fair and balanced.
And Fox News? ... fair and balanced? Now that's comedy.
You should get out more.
Check out other sources that give the full story.
No wonder you post garbage, you're going to the dumpster for your information.
Again I repeat for the ignorant poster...
@You quote FOX news? ha ha ha
You quote FOX news? ha ha ha
No, they're not biased ... ha ha ha
-They just show both sides of the issue
You should get out more.
-I am traveling today (Amsterdam LOL)
Check out other sources that give the full story.
-Funny point as the link you provided when googled was transcribed about Obama from Foxnews - Again D@#B A**
No wonder your post garbage, you're going to the dumpster for your information.
-I followed your link ha ha ha from google:
Obama One of Leading Recipients of Fannie/Freddie Political ...
h**p://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/09/10/us/politics/10fannie.gra phic.jpg. How's that reform smell? 2. Posted by jp2 | September 17, 2008 1:24 AM ...
... into thinking they show 'both sides of the issue'
Bwahahaha ... I can't stop laughing!!!!
Obviously, facts mean nothing to you.
You've formed an opinion based on Fox's selective reporting and refuse to be swayed by additional info.
(note: campaign contributions to McCain from Fannie and Freddie officers/agents that Fox conveniently leaves out)
You linked it... You must be one of the closet FoxNews viewer. ROTFLMAO.
Can you figure that out?
Read the URL ... it's right there
LOL...
Obama One of Leading Recipients of Fannie/Freddie Political ...
h**p://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/09/10/us/politics/10fannie.gra phic.jpg. How's that reform smell? 2. Posted by jp2 | September 17, 2008 1:24 AM ...
1Then it came to pass in the Land of Entitlement that the Word became Change and the Change became Hope and the Hope became Change You Can Believe In. 2And The Obamessisah went about all fifty-seven states, teaching at their Caucuses and Primaries, healing malaise among the poor in spirit, and preaching the gospel of Progress. 3Then His fame went throughout all the land; and they came to Him all people who were afflicted with Bush Derangement; and those who were hopenitized; moonbats and troofers; and He wooed them. 4Great multitudes followed Him - from Chicago to Jersey, and beyond the Hills of Beverly.
~
5And seeing the multitudes, He went up on a mountain and stepped into the floodlights where they had built for Him a temple, and His disciples gathered around Him. Then He opened His mouth and taught them, saying:
6'Blessed are the poor,
For theirs is the kingdom of State expropriated wealth.
7Blessed are the jobless,
For the taxpayers shall be their keepers.
8Blessed are those who lost their homes,
For they shall inherit a bailout.
9Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for Change™,
For they shall be filled with a great taxpayer-funded feast.
10Blessed are all who have grievances,
For they shall be compensated through civil rights lawsuits.
11Blessed are the peace protesters,
For theirs is the Progressive World of Next Tuesday™.
12Blessed are those one illness away from disaster,
For they shall obtain free health care.
13Blessed are our homosexual brothers and sisters,
For they shall be married and receive Intensive Family Preservation programs and Family Reunification privileges from the immigration authorities.
Obamessiah with Matthews and Olbermann
14'Blessed are you when Republicans revile and persecute you falsely for My sake. 15Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for people love me, so when you follow me, the world will love you, also.
16'You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its flavor, it is then good for nothing but to be thrown under the bus.
17'Do not think that I came to shrink the size of government. 18For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one dot above an 'i' will by no means pass from the law or government till all of my audacious dreams are fulfilled. And then I will build more.
19'You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'We are responsible for ourselves,' but we in truth rise or fall as a collective; the fundamental belief that I am my brother's keeper - unless he lives in a hut in Kenya.
20'And I say to you that whoever goes to war or tortures another without a progressive cause, shall be in danger of the judgment by the rest of the world. And whoever says to another the word 'unilaterally' shall be in danger of the judgment by the UN council.
21Therefore if you bring international aid to the altar of appeasement, and there remember that those nations' rulers are against you, 22leave your aid there and go away. 23Agree with your adversary quickly, without preconditions, lest your adversary accuses you of crimes against everything and deliver you to the judges of The Hague.
24'You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not commit adultery.' 25But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart, so go right ahead, just make sure to get the media to cover it up for you.
26If your right eye causes you to sin, invite the left one to join in; for if it looks good, it can't be wrong. 27And if your right hand causes you to sin, make sure to have enough for the left hand; for if it feels good, it can't be wrong.
28'You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' 29But I tell you not to break the peace unless you can pin it on Republicans. But whoever else in the world slaps you on your cheek, pander to him with largesse. 30If anyone wants to sue you and have your money, let him have your country also.
31'You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 32But I say to you, hate your rich neighbors and love the government officials who redistribute their wealth. 33And love your country's enemies too, for the enemy of Amerika is your friend; bless those who curse it, do good to those who hate it, and agree with those who spitefully use it and attack it, 34that you may be the progressive children of The Obamessiah; for He makes the sea levels fall and sends rain and hurricanes on the conventions of the unjust.
35For if you love those who love you not, you get to wail and lament. Did not the Screen Actors Guild do so? 36And if you snivel loudly enough, you will be rewarded. Was not the Screen Actors Guild rewarded so? 37Therefore you shall be perfect, just as The Obamessiah is perfect.
38'And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrite bitter clingers. For they love to pray standing on the corners of the streets, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. Assuredly, I say to you, when you pray, go into your local government office, and pray to your Messiah who is in the White House; and The Obamessiah will reward you openly.
39'Therefore do not be like them. For The Obamessiah knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. 40In this manner, therefore, pray:
Our Player, Barack the Messiah,
Washington be thy game.
Thy welfare come,
Grabbeth all thy guns
So we will think that we're all in heaven.
Taxeth away our daily bread,
And giveth to those identity groups who trespass against work.
Make us not a prosperous nation,
For all wealth is evil,
And thine is the shakedown with all power and fury.
Obamunist forever. Amen.
41'Enter by the narrow gate of Obamunism; for wide is the gate and broad is the way of Capitalism that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 42Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to Obamunism, and there are few who find it. 43For if you take from each according to his ability, The Obamessiah shall give to each according to his needs.
44'Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on land purchased at a discount from a friend.
45'But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who sat on his hands when the rain descended, the floods came, and drowned New Orleans.'
46And so it was, when The Obamessisah had ended these sayings, that the people were astonished at His teaching, 47for He taught them as one having authority, and not as one offering more of the same.
... that's what you'll post, as evidenced above.
taxpayers money away to the corporations and so do the democrats
all the taxpayer backed money being doled out to the corporations right now will be paid for once Obama gets into office
he will raise my taxes, both income tax and social security tax, a double whammy, even though I still cannot afford to purchase a home
that is why the media is selling Obama - so they can steal our money
they always work in tandem, then democrats and the republicans
they are both equally corrupt
... and only repeats the false distortions coming out of the rightwing media dumpster.
Fact: 95% of the people will see a tax DECREASE under Obama's plan (Fox news, Rush Limbaugh et al leave that info out - and want you to believe that everyone will get a tax increase - simply not true.)
You will not see an Income Tax raise or Social Security tax raise unless you make more than $250,000 yr ... which I highly doubt you do.
...raises cash for people like Barak Obama but it makes movies about people like John McCain.
$2.6 billion
We should be so lucky...
By the way, is that anything like Tony Rezko?
The above poster apparently doesn't research ...Sep 17th, 2008 - 22:46:21
... and only repeats the false distortions coming out of the rightwing media dumpster.
sp4 - we watched him jump three times from 20 to 30% on the O'Reilly interview on Fox, over business taxes but we're supposed to believe him?.
Fact: 95% of the people will see a tax DECREASE under Obama's plan (Fox news, Rush Limbaugh et al leave that info out - and want you to believe that everyone will get a tax increase - simply not true.)
sp4 - provided he does exactly what he says, a condition he has no track record of doing in any way.
You will not see an Income Tax raise or Social Security tax raise unless you make more than $250,000 yr ... which I highly doubt you do.
sp4 - again, provided he keeps his word, something he cannot seem to do with the people of Illinois and E. St. Louis.
Barak Obama has never run a business, never penned a tax bill, never done a payroll, never ran any kind of corporation or state, county, city, town, township, farm, or a lemonade stand, yet, we are to be expected to accept his views on taxes, the economy, the world, and everything else...because..why ....exactly??? Get back to us on that.
Barack has never run a business??? My understanding is that he did cocaine and experience has it that coke users always sell coke to do coke. Barack in more than one way or another ran his OWN business, he just doesn't know it.
THIS IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE:
Fannie and Freddie Contributions to McCain
$169,000
This is simply not true. It is verifiable as false. Here, from open secrets:
www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html
All Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008:
Name Office State Party Grand Total Total from
PACs Total from
Individuals
Dodd, Christopher J S CT D $165,400 $48,500 $116,900
Obama, Barack S IL D $126,349 $6,000 $120,349
Kerry, John S MA D $111,000 $2,000 $109,000
Bennett, Robert F S UT R $107,999 $71,499 $36,500
Bachus, Spencer H AL R $103,300 $70,500 $32,800
Blunt, Roy H MO R $96,950 $78,500 $18,450
Kanjorski, Paul E H PA D $96,000 $57,500 $38,500
Bond, Christopher S 'Kit' S MO R $95,400 $64,000 $31,400
Shelby, Richard C S AL R $80,000 $23,000 $57,000
Reed, Jack S RI D $78,250 $43,500 $34,750
Reid, Harry S NV D $77,000 $60,500 $16,500
Clinton, Hillary S NY D $76,050 $8,000 $68,050
Davis, Tom H VA R $75,499 $13,999 $61,500
Boehner, John H OH R $67,750 $60,500 $7,250
Conrad, Kent S ND D $64,491 $22,000 $42,491
Reynolds, Tom H NY R $62,200 $53,000 $9,200
Johnson, Tim S SD D $61,000 $20,000 $41,000
Pelosi, Nancy H CA D $56,250 $47,000 $9,250
Carper, Tom S DE D $55,889 $31,350 $24,539
Hoyer, Steny H H MD D $55,500 $51,500 $4,000
Pryce, Deborah H OH R $55,500 $45,000 $10,500
Emanuel, Rahm H IL D $51,750 $16,000 $35,750
Isakson, Johnny S GA R $49,200 $35,500 $13,700
Cantor, Eric H VA R $48,500 $46,500 $2,000
Crapo, Mike S ID R $47,250 $40,500 $6,750
Frank, Barney H MA D $42,350 $30,500 $11,850
Bean, Melissa H IL D $41,249 $34,999 $6,250
Bayh, Evan S IN D $41,100 $16,500 $24,600
McConnell, Mitch S KY R $41,000 $40,000 $1,000
Maloney, Carolyn B H NY D $39,750 $16,500 $23,250
Dorgan, Byron L S ND D $38,750 $30,500 $8,250
Miller, Gary H CA R $38,000 $31,500 $6,500
Rangel, Charles B H NY D $38,000 $14,750 $23,250
Tiberi, Patrick J H OH R $35,700 $32,600 $3,100
Bunning, Jim S KY R $33,802 $29,650 $4,152
Stabenow, Debbie S MI D $33,450 $32,000 $1,450
Chambliss, Saxby S GA R $33,250 $22,500 $10,750
Menendez, Robert S NJ D $31,250 $30,500 $750
Enzi, Mike S WY R $31,000 $27,500 $3,500
Van Hollen, Chris H MD D $30,700 $11,000 $19,700
Landrieu, Mary L S LA D $30,600 $20,000 $10,600
Murray, Patty S WA D $30,000 $23,000 $7,000
Clyburn, James E H SC D $29,750 $26,000 $3,750
Crowley, Joseph H NY D $29,700 $25,500 $4,200
Sessions, Pete H TX R $29,472 $24,000 $5,472
McCrery, Jim H LA R $29,000 $26,000 $3,000
Hooley, Darlene H OR D $28,750 $19,500 $9,250
Royce, Ed H CA R $28,600 $4,000 $24,600
Renzi, Rick H AZ R $28,250 $28,000 $250
Lieberman, Joe S CT I $28,250 $11,500 $16,750
Baucus, Max S MT D $27,500 $21,000 $6,500
Moore, Dennis H KS D $26,550 $25,500 $1,050
Coleman, Norm S MN R $24,690 $12,000 $12,690
Matheson, Jim H UT D $24,500 $24,000 $500
Schumer, Charles E S NY D $24,250 $1,500 $22,750
Durbin, Dick S IL D $23,750 $14,000 $9,750
Rogers, Mike H MI R $22,750 $21,000 $1,750
Lynch, Stephen F H MA D $22,500 $13,500 $9,000
Rockefeller, Jay S WV D $22,250 $5,000 $17,250
Smith, Gordon H S OR R $22,000 $20,000 $2,000
Mikulski, Barbara A S MD D $21,750 $16,500 $5,250
McCain, John S AZ R $21,550 $0 $21,550
THAT IS OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS. OBAMA HAS BEEN IN THE SENATE FOR 3. THAT MEANS OBAMA HAS HAD MORE MONEY THROWN AT HIM IN 3 YEARS FROM FREDDIE/FANNIE THEN ANY OTHER SENATOR.
Over the past decade McCain has had over a hundred thousand less contributed to his campaigns then Obama has in 3 years.
what taking the cap off social security taxes means?
The cap is now at $102,000 so he will raise that meaning all your income over $102,000 you pay more taxes under his plan.
Currently you no longer pay after you reach 102K - Obama will change that so that you have to keep paying taxes and it is a flat tax of 12.4% if you are self-employed.
So to say he will not raise taxes on those making under 250K is a total lie.
As far as income tax, which is yet another tax we all pay, he wanted to raise eveyones taxes if they made over 75,000 and suddenly when it was an issue, he changed his story.
I do not believe Obama for a second that those making under 250K will not also see a hefty income tax increase.
makes too much money from real estate to not back Obama.
He will fund the biggest overdevelopment projects ever and there is nothing that increases global warming like adding more housing units.
Every household added uses more energy for appliance and food and that all adds up to more global warming.
Development projects all get very special tax cuts and tax incentives and special tax rates.
Have you ever heard Obama say let's tax developers? Or that development is fueling global warming?
He's just another politician.
Stop trying the poster you are correcting is part of the Obamanation movement led by Oprah, Rosie, Michale Moore, Hollywood, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, the EU, the UN, and Putin. There are others such as Rezco, Osama, Michelle (Wife), and that wierdo who blows things up (can't remember his name). Just proves how out of touch he is with the USA.
'Fact: 95% of the people will see a tax DECREASE under Obama's plan '
Fact, if Obama jacks up the capital gains tax it is going to put tens of thousands of people out of work and ship more jobs overseas.
''do you people not understand
what taking the cap off social security taxes means?
The cap is now at $102,000 so he will raise that meaning all your income over $102,000 you pay more taxes under his plan.
Currently you no longer pay after you reach 102K - Obama will change that so that you have to keep paying taxes and it is a flat tax of 12.4% if you are self-employed.
So to say he will not raise taxes on those making under 250K is a total lie.
As far as income tax, which is yet another tax we all pay, he wanted to raise eveyones taxes if they made over 75,000 and suddenly when it was an issue, he changed his story.
I do not believe Obama for a second that those making under 250K will not also see a hefty income tax increase.''
You are good Obi Wan...
You write 'I do not believe Obama for a second that those making under 250K will not also see a hefty income tax increase.'
What you think doesn't really matter. Esp when it's not the truth.
Fact:
95% of American will see a tax DECREASE under Obama's plan
80% of Americans will see a BIGGER tax DECREASE under Obama's plan vs McCain's plan.
So keep repeating your false info on Obama's tax plan ... but your efforts to keep spewing the 'politics of fear' based on those lies will not work.
(Hey, why don't you mention that as mayor Sarah Palin raised sales taxes in Wasilla by 25% ... that's a matter of public record.)
...either.
No, these posts have value: when Obama says 95% won't see a tax hike....which tax?
'What you said vs What Obama actually plans'
Keep repeating it over and over you stupid monkey. If Obama jacks up the capital gains tax it is going to put tens of thousands of people out of work and ship more jobs overseas. Additionally, since most of the parasites who make up Obamas core constituency don't pay taxes to begin with they are going to be getting what amounts to free money from the government which will be coming out of the pockets of the middle class. ALSO, his plan is to give free money and health care to illegal aliens as well.
I know that since you have the mentality of a 2 year old and expect everything to be given to you that this makes no sense but: SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR FREE MONEY TO THE UNEMPLOYED AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Simply taxing corporations out of the country wont do it. Soaking the rich wont do it. What Obama will do is add more to our debt, which is already at 10 trillion dollars on a 13 trillion dollar GDP. I also know that those words and acronyms mean nothing to you because, once again you have the mentality of a 2 year old, but bottom line: OBAMA WILL BANKRUPT THE COUNTRY.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhWKtsEdoB0
You write '...our debt, which is already at 10 trillion dollars on a 13 trillion dollar GDP.'
Hey sparky ... it ain't OUR debt ... it's GEORGE BUSH's DEBT.
And I was the one who explained to you, only yesterday, why it will bankrupt the US.
When you were saying you preferred more debt as 'the better pill'.
Too funny.
You write 'when Obama says 95% won't see a tax hike....which tax?'
C'mon SP4 .. even someone as slow as you knows it's 'income tax'.
Now regarding Social Security being extended past the 102k cap ...
Anyone with half a brain knows that without changes Social Security will go bankrupt in a few years ... changes have to be made to make it solvent 'before' it happens ...
Unless you think Bush's proposal for 'personal risk' accounts in the stock market is the best idea ... esp given the market these last few days?
Or, do you prefer more national debt to pay for it? ...
As if $10,000,000,000,000 of debt under Bush isn't enough for you?
... criticize the Dems on National Debt.
Somehow, they seem oblivious to George Bush's record setting debt.
George Bush has increased the national debt, more than ALL the presidents that came before him, combined!!!.
More than ALL of them combined!!!!
Are you sure you really want to go there Republicans?
'Hey sparky ... it ain't OUR debt ... it's GEORGE BUSH's DEBT.'
Hey idiot, if you live in the USA it is YOUR debt.
'And I was the one who explained to you, only yesterday, why it will bankrupt the US.'
Something else you are confused about.
'When you were saying you preferred more debt as 'the better pill'.'
That certainty was not me.
By the way, moron, the debt is mostly to entitlements. Barack Obama wants to create the biggest entitlement program in the USA since the 1930s which will will increase the debt load over the amount of GDP we generate effectively making our dollar worthless.
Electing Obama is the road to bankruptcy and ruin.
'George Bush has increased the national debt, more than ALL the presidents that came before him, combined!!!.'
In real dollars, not even close, that was FDR. As a percentage of GDP not even close, that was FDR again.
By the way, congress controls spending, not the president. Read a civics 101 book.
You write: 'By the way, moron, the debt is mostly to entitlements.'
You are flat out wrong.
Do you know that the interest payment on Bush's 10 trillion dollar debt each year costs more than ALL entitlement programs combined?
Just the interest on that debt!!!
The facts about Bush's debt being more than all previous presidents combined is true.
Rant all you want ... it's a fact.
They support the guy who says 'The fundamentals of the US economy are strong'
And McCain says that ... as one major financial institution after another fails ... more than 600,000 jobs lost this year ... rapidly declining home values ... ever increasing mortgage foreclosures (300,000 last month alone) ... the dollar worth about 60% of what it was when Bush took office etc etc etc
Then ... somehow ... they try to say that Obama is the one that will be a problem for our economy.
McCain sounds like Hoover in 1929
Both candidates profit from the Wall Street generosity,McCain more than Obama.I guess the GOP posters are ill advised to tie Wall Street and the financial crisis to Obama.Meanwhile Bush has injected more than 1000 billion dollars in the financial markets in order to save the economy.with quite some success as stock markets soared with the highest raise ever ever .Tis is taxpayer's money that went straight to Wall Street as an incentive to the investment bankers who's wrongdoings have caused the present mess.Meanwile in 2007 the top notch CEO's from the investment banks have reaped 85 billion of dollars in salary .I wonder why looking at the present mess.In any case the financial injection is not lost for all.Thanks to the injection of more than 1000 billion dollars the stock market speculators had a very profitable day .
There will always be record sums of taxpayer's money for the armament tycoons too,they too reap enormous profits thanks to the GOP.Education and health care however present little interest to these people .Just a matter of priorities....
Do you think that if the McCain's had attended Ms. McCain would have worn $300,000 worth of jewelry and clothes? Just wondering?
'Both candidates profit from the Wall Street generosity,McCain more than Obama.'
Wrong again, euro-chimp
'I guess the GOP posters are ill advised to tie Wall Street and the financial crisis to Obama.'
He got more money then anyone else from freddie and fannie in a shorter period of time and that is just the fact. Obama has hired Franklin D. Raines, the former leader of Fannie Mae who stepped down after a corruption scandal as his financial adviser:
In the four years since he stepped down as Fannie Mae’s chief executive under the shadow of a $6.3 billion accounting scandal, Franklin D. Raines has been quietly constructing a new life for himself. He has shaved eight points off his golf handicap, taken a corner office in Steve Case’s D.C. conglomeration of finance, entertainment and health-care companies and more recently, taken calls from Barack Obama’s presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters. -Washington Post, July 16, 2008
SO NOT ONLY HAS OBAMA GOTTEN MORE MONEY THEN ANYONE ELSE FROM THESE CROOKS, HE HIRES THE CROOKS TO ADVISE HIM ON HOW TO STEAL MORE.
'Do you think that if the McCain's had attended Ms. McCain would have worn $300,000 worth of jewelry and clothes?'
Whatever Cindy McCain has she has gotten fair and square. Mrs Obama has tony Rezko to thank for her ensemble.
And as usual the monkey working on McSames grinder spouts off more crap. She inherited it you idiot, she did not work for it. Sometimes I have to agree with the posters that believe that you and SP4 are the same person---ignorant and stupid.
And your lies about Obama/Rezko are not getting 'traction' with anyone, does that not bother your little mind one bit?
and not income.
we have these foreigners who come in to town and buy up 10 houses at a time.
It's sick
tax them
and do not tax people who do not own their own home
... that homeowners already pay property tax?
I wonder if he'll feel the same way after he buys a house?
'And as usual the monkey working on McSames grinder spouts off more crap.'
Funny, I call someone a monkey and you, with all of your imagination and intelligence turn around and compose the most devastating reply that can be generated with both IQ points: You call me a monkey. Original as always.
'She inherited it you idiot'
That is a lot more legitimate then having your husband steal it from the tax payers for you. Or getting a raise because your husband got an earmark for the hospital you 'work' at.
'Sometimes I have to agree with the posters that believe that you and SP4 are the same person---ignorant and stupid.'
Well, you have found another subject to be wrong about.
'And your lies about Obama/Rezko are not getting 'traction' with anyone'
No lies, Obama doesn't even deny that he helped Rezko steal millions from the taxpayer. He admits that he wrote letters helping him to do it.
'does that not bother your little mind one bit?'
Doesn't it bother you that you are voting for a thief who had 143 days in the senate before he was propped up to run by a domestic terrorist and George Soros? Of course not, you are too stupid to be bothered and too mentally ill to allow yourself to see it.
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