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Anti-Obama author detained in Kenya, faces deportation
Oct 7, 2008, 14:54 GMT
Nairobi - The American author of a controversial book lambasting US presidential hopeful Barack Obama was Tuesday detained by Kenyan immigration authorities as he prepared to launch his book in the East African nation.
Jerome Corsi was picked up by immigration authorities at a Nairobi hotel just before he was due to present 'The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality' to the public.
Immigration authorities refused to comment on the exact reason for Corsi's detention and what the next step would be.
However, the Daily Nation, quoting a source in the immigration department, said that Corsi and his spokesman had been driven to Jomo Kenyatta International Airport and would be put on a plane out of the country.
Corsi had said he would 'expose details of deep secret ties between...Obama and a section of Kenya Government leaders...and a subsequent plot to be executed in Kenya should Senator Obama win the American presidency' at the press event.
Corsi had also planned to meet the senator's half-brother, George Hussein Obama, who lives in Nairobi's Huruma slum, to give him a cheque for 1,000 dollars.
George Obama's poverty has provided right-wing commentators with ammunition, saying that it undermines Obama's supposed commitment to family values.
Corsi's 2004 book 'Unfit for Command' attacking Democratic nominee John Kerry is credited with helping President George W Bush to election victory.
Observers say that the latest book, which also accuses Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga of supporting radical Muslims, aims to do the same job on Obama, whose father was Kenyan and from the same tribe as Odinga.
Kenya has adopted Obama as Kenyan even though he has only visited the country a handful of times.
He was given a rapturous welcome during his last visit to the village where his grandmother still lives and a beer has even been named after him.
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sane people would pay attention to what Jerome Corsi has to say because only the insane will cast a vote for Obama. Obama is a very very bad man.
Hopefully his only claim to fame will be ''Barack Beer''.
Well, since the economy is in the tank ....
... and the wars still have no end in sight
(Afghanistan getting worse ... Iraq leveling out a bit - but certainly not good yet, since you still can't get a safe ride to the airport ... Al Qaeda still growing in power around the world ... Pakistan becoming more and more a problem ... Iran getting more closer to real nukes, etc etc etc ... many, many international problems) ...
And with the news that OVER 750,000 jobs have been lost in the US this year alone ... and it's only October ... still lots of time to lose more.
You republican guys want to talk about these things instead? Fears and rumors of fears?
I'm trying to say ... we have REAL problems that we should be talking about.
But no ... the republican fools above would rather talk about rumors written by a guy with a right wing agenda ( oh and you like talking about lipstick too).
Why? ... Because it's feeds the fears in their little minds.
Hey guys ... switch to water for a day ... get back to real issues ... the republican kool-aid has you forgetting about the very real problems in front of your face.
They play you like a cheap fiddle.
the only thing sp4 knows is John McCain predicted Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac crises. this my dear asshole is getting old as you are getting more stupid. or did you put on your famous tinfoil hat today.
'the only thing sp4 knows is John McCain predicted Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac crises. '
You forgot to mention that Obama and the democrats helped bring it about. Obama took more money from Freddie and fannie than any other senator in such a short period of time. The only reason Chris Dodd was able to wring out more is because he was in the senate over 10 years. Here:
All Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008
Name, Office, State, Party, Grand Total, Total from PACs, Total from Individuals
Dodd, Christopher J S CT D $165,400 $48,500 $116,900
Obama, Barack S IL D $126,349 $6,000 $120,349
Obama was the number 1 recipient of money from the failed countrywide mortgage lender.
This entire bailout/Crisis was caused by Freddie and fanny deliberately buying loans that were marginal from banks that deliberately loaned to people who were not qualified to borrow. Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines were CEOs of Freddie and Fannie and both walked away from the mess they made with tens of millions in undeserved bonuses and BOTH are not only contributers to Obama but both are key political and economic advisers to him and his campaign. Jim Johnson oversaw the Obama vice presidential search committee.
Penny Pritzker is Obamas campaign finance chairman, she made millions in the sub-prime crisis. Add Jamie Gorelick who is one of the Fannie executives who benefited from inflated bonuses based on Enron-style accounting and another Obama adviser and you pretty much have most of the major people involved in buying off politicians in order to limit Fannie/Freddies accountability giving money and advice to Obama.
Barack Obama is continuing a long history of helping other people steal from the tax payer in exchange for financial contributions and power. He did it with tony Rezko in Chicago who stole millions from the taxpayers took care of him well.. Now he is doing it with the CEOs of these failed banks who have bought and paid for him with OUR money in order to stop the regulatory bodies from stopping them from stealing.
Old men look backward and go over and over the past - young men look forward and try to improve the situation at hand. Mistakes have been made all the way around, but dwelling on them and pointing fingers isn't going to solve anything. Learn from mistakes, whoever made them, and try to do better. If you're a Republican, any thing related to Obama is wrong, if you're a Democrat, the same goes for McCain - boooring! Independents are the ones who usually weigh the issues and make a better decision.
You do know who Phil Gramm is don'tchya SP4?
He's the author of the deregulation Bill in the late 90's that paved the way for this current economic mess ... (oh, I know ... Rush Limbaugh didn't teach you about him, did he?)
How 'bout you google his name ... you'll learn bunches.
Or do you wanna keep talking about rumors of international espionage and assassination plots created in the twisted mind right wing nut-job, as if it's fact?
Yeah, that'll make you look smart ... Ha.
... you know SP4 ... if you only count on one biased source for your information (limbaugh) ... you end up not knowing the full story ... and making yourself look like a fool .... as you so often show us.
'He's the author of the deregulation Bill in the late 90's that paved the way for this current economic mess ... (oh, I know ... Rush Limbaugh didn't teach you about him, did he?)'
No, he is not. Regulation was fought by the likes of Chris Dodd, Barney Frank and Barack Hussein Obama. Here, take a look:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
Obama was the second highest recipient of kickbacks from Freddie and Fannie in the shortest amount of time. Jim Johnson, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick and Penny Pritzker; all thieves who gt millions out of creating this mess all work for and support Barack Obama. Barack Obama is just trying to do on a national scale what he did in Chicago: Help his cronies steal.
'Old men look backward and go over and over the past - young men look forward and try to improve the situation at hand. '
You can't fix the problem without knowing how we created the problem.
'Mistakes have been made all the way around, but dwelling on them and pointing fingers isn't going to solve anything.'
No, mistakes are one thing, these are politicians helping their cronies steal from the tax payer and letting the system collapse because of it.
Obama did this in Chicago with Tony Rezko at the cost of millions, he (Along with Frank, Dodd, etc) is doing it again at the federal level the cost of billions.
'Phil Gramm is/was also McCains economic advisor[sic]'
He was. Jim Johnson, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick and Penny Pritzker ALL advised Obama and they ALL stole millions.
'Do you fools really think that this economic mess was created within the last 2 yrs by a mere freshman senator?'
He is of the corrupt pack of traitors that the CEO's of Freddie bought in order to stop regulation and enable them to keep stealing.
'Obama wasn't even in the Senate when this mess was started. Or ANY elected position for that matter.'
Yet he got the second highest amount of graft from Freddie and Fannie, in the shortest amount of time. Yet he is in bed with all their old CEO's. Yet he got the MOST from countrywide.
'It was deregulation that John McCain supported'
That is an outright, provable lie. McCain Proposed regulation for freddie and Fannie. Here:
he following statement was made by John McCain on the floor of the Senate on May 25, 2005.
Mr. McCAIN. Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.
THE DEMOCRATS KILLED The Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act that McCain proposed. It would have prevented this.
and you are a certifiable idiot. YOU SAY:''THE DEMOCRATS KILLED The Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act that McCain proposed. It would have prevented this.'
The Repubs had a majoriy. They defeated it themselves. Got any more crap from the Republican backroom dirty tricks/lies bureau(AKA the toilet)?
' It would have prevented this.'
The Repubs had a majoriy.'
Your ignorance of the process is matched by your ignorance of everything else... The bill was killed in the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs which was run by the democrats, notably Chris Dodd who received just a little bit more money from Freddie Mac then obama did. Of course it took Dodd 8 more years to accumulate it...
None of your pathetic Phil Gramm hallucinations, which who(?) signed into law, or anything else negates the fact that the CURRENT democrats in Congress were warned at a time when all this could have been avoided, under rules they had at their disposal in the banking committees, and that they knew this, but went ahead anyway.
None of this negates the fact that Obama, promptly, upon entrance to the senate, immediately went to the public housing trough and fed next to Barney Frank and Chris Dodd.
You're going to have to face the fact that the dems were warned by the President and the GOP candidate for the last 5 years and, like everything else, thumbed their noses at them.
... how dumb they are.
McCain DID campaign for deregulation ... here's a 1999 quote from him ... ''There's a number of reasons why we are experiencing this almost unprecedented prosperity. Among them are a lack of regulation, free trade, and most importantly, we are going through a revolution the likes of which the world has seldom seen.'
Phil Gramm DID author banking and mortgage deregulation in 1999 ... and successfully got it through congress. (no matter how much you stomp your feet and say no, the truth is he did)
In October 1999, Senate Republicans led by Phil Gramm were deep in negotiations on key legislation to deregulate the banking industry.
They got it passed under a republican controlled congress.
Also, McCain presidential campaign manager Rick Davis has financial DEEP ties to Fannie and Freddie too ... Rick Davis headed Fannie Mae lobby and said people wanted 'into houses cheap.'
Not long ago Rick Davis was making more than $30,000 a month doing work in Washington for them (still part owner of a company that CONTINUES to work for fannie and freddie) ... overall Rick Davis made more than $2 million doing work in DC for Fannie and Freddie.
McCain is also one of the 350+ members of congress to get fannie and freddie donations. (google it)
You think your guy McCain and his campaign is clean?
Not even close.
Don't be so self-righteous in your smear attempts ... it reveals you as a blatant hypocrite.
and you are an inbred, bain dead pig f*cker, just like your inbred, brain dead daddy and grand daddy.
Phil Gramm DID author banking and mortgage deregulation in 1999 ... and successfully got it through congress. (no matter how much you stomp your feet and say no, the truth is he did)
sp4 - now, go see who signed it into law. I'll give you a hint:
White water
FBI records scandal
chinese and russian campaign funds scandal
MFN for China for campaign funds
Vince Foster
Travel Office scandal
Lying to a federal judge
Pardons of Puerto Rican terrorists
employment of domestic terrorists in the justice dept.
firing a fed prosecutor investigating whitewater
Any guesses on who might have signed such a bill?
Get back to us on that...
SP 4 doing the Republican't shuck and jive and misdirection. He's doing the big O in GOP(Graft, Obfuscation, Perfidy. You are so perdictable, SP. You are so boring.
you guys KNOW nothing about your candidate.
He blames the Dems for Iraq ... (no s**t, he really does)
Instead of blaming the guys who told the lies (Bush Cheney) ... SP4 blames the fools who believed them (dems).
So now in this economic mess ... SP4 does it again.
He absolves the guys who actually pushed for the banking deregulation ... McCain and Gramm.
And blames someone else for it.
Where's your principles of 'personal responsibility' today SP4?
Oh that's right ...You walked away from your principles along time ago.
'''There's a number of reasons why we are experiencing this almost unprecedented prosperity..''
A single Quote taken out of context doesn't change the fact that MCCAIN proposed a regulation bill that would have PREVENTED this crisis. (The Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act, google it) He also voted FOR another regulation bill that would have prevented this but the democrats voted that down.
Simply put, It is provable that John McCain wanted Freddie and Fannie regulated.
'Phil Gramm DID author banking and mortgage deregulation in 1999 .'
Which wasn't what caused this melt down, it was the fact that Freddie and Fannie were deliberately buying up bad mortgages that banks were loaning to transfer private risk to the public sector.
'Also, McCain presidential campaign manager Rick Davis has financial DEEP ties to Fannie and Freddie too '
He works at a PR firm that did work for them. Hardly the same as haveing their disgraced X-CEOs as your economic advisers and head of your VP search committee. THESE WERE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO RAN THE COMPANYS INTO THE GROUND.
'McCain is also one of the 350+ members of congress to get fannie and freddie donations.'
OBAMA WAS #2! McCain got NO mony from their political action committee. None. Any money that he got was from private donations. Considering that there are 100 members of the senate and 435 in the House #350 is about as low as you can get.
McCain Cosponsored Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005; Reform of Fannie and Freddie
In 2003, Senator John McCain co-sponsored the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005. The reform, due to Democratic resistance, never became law. Here was a statement John McCain made in support of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005:
Statement by John McCain Sen. John McCain [R-AZ]: Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae's regulator reported that the company's quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were 'illusions deliberately and systematically created' by the company's senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae's former chief executive officer, OFHEO's report shows that over half of Mr. Raines' compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator's examination of the company's accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac--known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs--and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO's report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO's report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 1 90, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole. I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.'
This legislation went nowhere, thanks to Barack Obama and other Democrats.
Republicans also tried to reegulate Freddie and Fannie in 2003:
New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae
By STEPHEN LABATON
September 11, 2003
The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.
The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.
The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates
”The regulator has not only been outmanned, it has been outlobbied,” said Representative Richard H. Baker, the Louisiana Republican who has proposed legislation similar to the administration proposal and who leads a subcommittee that oversees the companies. ”Being underfunded does not explain how a glowing report of Freddie’s operations was released only hours before the managerial upheaval that followed. This is not world-class regulatory work.”
Significant details must still be worked out before Congress can approve a bill. Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.[...]
”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.
”I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,” Mr. Watt said.
McCain, Bush & Republicans TWICE Tried to Pass Regulatory Reform for Mortgage Lenders Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae - Democrats Blocked! Key Democrats Obama, Dodd, Received the Highest Donations from the Failed Enterprises that Ripped YOU Off!
They spent hundreds of millions in influence peddling to keep the regulators off their backs while they funneled money to politicians and partisan orgs. The vast majority going to Democrats and YOU are paying for it.
Not only did Obama and Dodd get the most money in the Senate, but the same people that ran Fannie Mae into the ground are the economic advisers in Obama’s campaign. Clinton appointees were on the boards….and Obama blames Bush and McCain.
Just follow the link below folks. It is a long article but has all of the sourced evidence and facts. This is not just partisan rhetoric - this is history.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-_HlpZ8azA
This will explain it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-_HlpZ8azA
'and you are an inbred, bain[sic] dead pig f*cker, just like your inbred, brain dead daddy and grand daddy. '
A leftists idea of political discourse.
Firstly, learn how to spell. Secondly, that requires an education. Get one. Thirdly, what's the matter, don't you like EssPee's tactics used on you? Get right royally stuffed you neocon pig. Take EssPee's arse apples out of your mouth and get a brain.
Palin and her husband have a history with a little 'ol group called the 'Alaska Independence Party'
They believe, and strive for Alaska secession from the US.
The party's leader - Joe Vogler - said 'The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. ... And I won't be buried under their damn flag.'
The same Alaska Independence Party that Mrs. Palin told ealier this year: 'I'm delighted to welcome you to the 2008 Alaska Independence Party Convention. ... Keep up the good work!'
Those are documented facts.
Patriot? or Traitor?
How little you guys know about your candidates.
'The same Alaska Independence Party that Mrs. Palin told ealier this year: 'I'm delighted to welcome you to the 2008 Alaska Independence Party Convention. ... Keep up the good work!''
Notice the 'dot dot dot' in the above quote... that is the part of the speech where she states that she disagrees with their message. That ppart was censored out to completely reverse the meaning of the original comment.
This is another disproven obama lie. Sarah Palin was never in this party, she went on to state that she does not agree with them in her welcoming speech.
Here's what FactCheck.org says about that:
'She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party. She’s been registered as a Republican since May 1982. '
Full link to her speech:
jimtreacher.com/archives/001633.html
Here’s what McCain has to say about the wonders of market-based health reform:
Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.
So McCain, who now poses as the scourge of Wall Street, was praising financial deregulation like 10 seconds ago — and promising that if we marketize health care, it will perform as well as the financial industry
I'm Governor Sarah Palin, and I am delighted to welcome you to the 2008 Alaskan Independence Party Convention in the Golden Heart City, Fairbanks.
Your party plays an important role in our state's politics. I've always said that competition is so good, and that applies to political parties as well. I share your party's vision of upholding the Constitution of our great state. My administration remains focused on reining in government growth so individual liberty and opportunity can expand. I know you agree with that. We have a great promise to be a self-sufficient state, made up of the hardest-working, most grateful Americans in our nation.
So as your convention gets under way, I hope that you all are inspired by remembering that all those years ago, it was in this same city that Alaska's Constitution was born. And it was founded on hope, and trust, and liberty, and opportunity. I carry that message of opportunity forward in my administration as we continue to move our state ahead and create positive change.
So I say: Good luck on a successful and inspiring convention, keep up the good work, and God bless you.
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Hardly the rebuke of their philosophy as the above poster claims.
And her husband WAS an Alaska Independence Party member.
Those are the facts.
'Her exact speech ... not a rebuke as above claims'
'Your party ' (not Our party)
' I've always said that competition is good, and that applies to political parties as well'
So they are competing with each other, not in agreement.
' most grateful Americans in our nation.'
AMERICANS, not just Alaskans, idiot.
'Hardly the rebuke of their philosophy as the above poster claims'
She makes it clear that she does not agree with them yet she welcomes them nonetheless.
'And her husband WAS an And her husband WAS an Alaska Independence Party member.'
Gee, you would think he was going to a Damn America church for 20 years or something.
...except for the glaring fact that health care in America is already a privatized enterprise at the services level, unless you ae a public employee.
That being the case, what does any of this really mean?
You write:
'Gee, you would think he was going to a Damn America church for 20 years or something.'
No.
Todd Palin was a pledged member of a secessionist party who's leader - Joe Vogler - said ... (again, so you'll read it)
'The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. ... And I won't be buried under their damn flag.'
This is an organization that Todd Palin joined as a full member ...
And you really think that's more acceptable then Rev. Wright eh?
Or are you gonna be a hypocrite about this too?
Re: Thanks for the spamOct 8th, 2008 - 17:46:31
You write:
'Gee, you would think he was going to a Damn America church for 20 years or something.'
No.
Todd Palin was a pledged member of a secessionist party who's leader - Joe Vogler - said ... (again, so you'll read it)
'The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. ... And I won't be buried under their damn flag.'
This is an organization that Todd Palin joined as a full member ...
And you really think that's more acceptable then Rev. Wright eh?
Or are you gonna be a hypocrite about this too?
Re: Thanks for the spamOct 8th, 2008 - 17:46:31
You write:
'Gee, you would think he was going to a Damn America church for 20 years or something.'
No.
Todd Palin was a pledged member of a secessionist party who's leader - Joe Vogler - said ... (again, so you'll read it)
'The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. ... And I won't be buried under their damn flag.'
This is an organization that Todd Palin joined as a full member ...
And you really think that's more acceptable then Rev. Wright eh?
Or are you gonna be a hypocrite about this too?
No. Todd Palin is not a candidate for anything, and this organization does not advocate the downfall of America, just the State of Alaska seceeding from it, after 60(?) years of questionable results from their membership.
Have you skipped your meds this morning EssPee?
SP4 is defending Todd Palin ... the GOP's VP Candidates husband ... for belonging to a party that wants Alaska to secede from the US.
And a party who's leader and founder, proclaims vile hatred for America ... and wants to break the US apart.
OK SP4 ... never ever mention Rev. Wright, or Bill Ayers again.
If you do, You'll be an even bigger hypocrite than you already are.
....And please, voters, do not forget the wonderful work Mr. Obama did for those poor folk in Chicago, Illinois (and now, we find out other big populated cities) to make sure that many families (worthy of home sized borrowing or not) got huge loans for homes thay could NEVER pay for....We shall forever here after know this super-scam as A C O R N.
(Remember, voters, if you don't elect McCain, and choose Obama, you are hereafter evermore part of the spending problem and NOT the solution!)
Vote with your head, not over it!
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SP4: the fix is inOct 7th, 2008 - 17:03:21
this is how it's going to be...
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