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At last, a voice of sanity and reason on the Republican side
Who needs Colin Poewell? Who is he compared to Joe the Plumbber? what give him the right to say that Sarah was a lousy pick? I think Joe would say Sarah is the best. joe is so much smarter than Poewell that so the country will; see that now and rally around Sarah and will keep America free and get taxes down and nucler poweer up and all.
The party Powell supported for so many years has been destroyed by the Roves, Cheney's and Bushes. The McCain he knows has also changed to comply with the new party standards and has had to kiss up to these guys when in fact he is better than they are. But time has passed Mr. McCain:
McOld Guy was first against Bush tax cuts and now he is for them.
McOld Guy was first for giving illegal's amnesty now he is against amnesty.
McOld Guy spent 10 years claiming he was 'always for less regulation', called for 'removing regulatory accounting and tax impediments' to financial markets. Now we are in a recession he is for enacting 'reforms to make sure that these outrages never happen in the first place'.
McOld Guy was in a POW camp and tortured for 5 1/2 years voted against a bill that would prevent torture, putting all US troops in jeopardy if and when they are captured.
McOld Guy in 2000 favored normalization of relations with Cuba. In 2003 called US talks with Syria 'appropriate.' In 2006 approved of US talks with the Palestinian Authority. In 2008 said Obama's willingness to meet with the enemy shows his 'naivete and inexperience and lack of judgement.'
McOld Guy in 1997 wrote legislation to ban lobbyists from political campaigns. Said lobbyist fundraisers 'clearly represented a conflict of interest.' Then in 2008 his campaign relies on more than 170 lobbyists to raise money and serve as aides and advisers.
McOld Guy in February 2008 called Obama's insistence that America can track down and kill Al Qaeda in Pakistan the 'confused leadership of an inexperienced candidate.' Then in 2008 voiced no objections when Bush ordered US special forces to invade Pakistani territory in pursuit of Al Qaeda militants.
McOld Guy on September 16, 2008 said 'I do not believe that the American taxpayer should be on the hook for AIG.' The very next day he backed the bailout when he finally figured out that AIG held millions of retirement accounts.
McOld Guy in October 2006 told Chris Matthews, 'I think gay marriage should be allowed.' Minutes later said 'I do not believe that gay marriages should be legal'.
You talk about 'flip-floppers', McOld Guy is the King of flip flopper---but for the wrong reason. The candidate McCain in 2000 would have swept this election, Obama would not have a snowballs chance. But the new candidate McCain has had to give up so many things he was actually a Maverick on that he does not even compare to the 2000 guy, he even made a choice to solidify his base that backfired. Too bad, but time had passed McCain, time for new choices, time for new ideas and time for McCain to go back to the Senate.
He kind of looks like McCain in that photo.
So race trumps right.
'Who needs Colin Poewell[sic]? Who is he compared to Joe the Plumbber[sic]'
At least Joe has a job.
I think a lot of teeny boppers comment on this site. They can't spell and don't know who most of these politicians are. Colin Powell is a highly respected person, and his endorsement would mean a great deal to any candidate.
hi,
I'm Joe The Stock Broker. I'm voting for McCain. Vote with me because I am one of you!!
Sure, nothing is true about me, but you can call me Joe anyways.
same as Obama's and McCain's.
'The party Powell supported for so many years has been destroyed by the Roves, Cheney's and Bushes. '
And you represent the Pelosi's, Reid's and the Murthas. Corrupt, incompetent pigs at the trough who vote to send Americans out in harms way then vote to not give them what they need to fight.
'The McCain he knows has also changed to comply with the new party standards...'
Obama is a puppet of leftist cabal. He has been groomed by the likes of Axelrod, Soros, Ayers and Wright in to a slick, lying America hating snake oil salesman who has herded together a coalition of misfits and lemmings who are ready to use the Constitution and the flag as a doormat on the march to to get to the Jimmy Carter era catastrophe that they are going to create.
'McOld Guy was first against Bush tax cuts and now he is for them.'
The Obamamessiah is going to raise the taxes on the middle class to 'spread the wealth around', which will cause small business to cut back on hiring. 100% of the job growth over the past few years was created by small business.
'McOld Guy was first for giving illegal's amnesty now he is against amnesty.'
The Obamamessiah has always been consistent on that: He is going to give illegal aliens drivers licenses, subsidized mortgages and subsidized college education and amnesty... all 12-15 million of them. Indeed, he is going to make it easier fr more to come.
'Now we are in a recession he is for enacting 'reforms to make sure that these outrages never happen in the first place'.'
The Obamamessiah was the second highest recipient of kickbacks from the people who caused the financial melt down and he hired both CEO's of freddie and fannie to be his financial advisers. McCain was provably FOR regulating freddie and fannie and tried TWICE to get legislation passed that would have averted this crisis. It was blocked by the democrats who were getting the bulk of campaign contributions from freddie and fannie.
'McOld Guy was in a POW camp and tortured for 5 1/2 years voted against a bill that would prevent torture, '
Not true, he voted not to tie the hands of the CIA in dealing with the evil monsters who live to attack us. McCain has shown a comprehensive understanding of the threat we have faced, the Obamamessiah fought against the surge that won us Iraq.
' In 2008 said Obama's willingness to meet with the enemy shows his 'naivete and inexperience and lack of judgement[sic].''
The Obamamessiah has stated, plainly and clearly that he was willing to sit down with leaders, in his first term of Iran, syria, cuba, north Korea, etc.. without 'preconditions'. It is breathtakingly naive to sit down with someone in a venue of their choice who chants death to the USA and vows to destroy us and our allies.
'McOld Guy in 1997 wrote legislation to ban lobbyists from political campaigns.'
The Obamamessiah never promised to ban lobbyists and his campaign has been full of them. The same people who caused the financial melt down are on his campaign staff. The Obamamessiah DID promise to take federal matching funds for his campaign which is just another promise that he has broken. Your 170 lobbyists figure is a lie.
What a moron. Atlas is dead. Ayn Rand, a rightwingnut from Canada was discredited decades ago. But you wouldn't know that, would you? That is to be expected from a republican't, they are stuck in the past.
'cOld Guy in February 2008 called Obama's insistence that America can track down and kill Al Qaeda in Pakistan the 'confused leadership of an inexperienced candidate.'
That is a lie: The Obamamessiah was vowing to bomb Pakistan, a country that has American troops in it who are already fighting and bombing al qaeda. It was the 'confused leadership of an inexperienced candidate. Obama wants to bomb the countries cooperating and negtiate with the ones who are vowing to kill us.
'McOld Guy on September 16, 2008 said 'I do not believe that the American taxpayer should be on the hook for AIG.'
No one does, the other choice was a depression which we are probably going to get anyway because the people who create businesses are not going to be bothered to do so if the Obamamessiah is just going to nationalize them or take the profit away to give more handouts to his cronies.
'McOld Guy in October 2006 told Chris Matthews, 'I think gay marriage should be allowed.' Minutes later said 'I do not believe that gay marriages should be legal'.'
No he did not.
'You talk about 'flip-floppers', McOld Guy is the King of flip flopper'
Obama messiah:
For campaign matching funds before he was against them.
For filibustering telecom imminity funds before he was against it.
For invading Pakistan before he was against it.
For negotiating with terrorists funds before he was against it.
For ending the Cuba embargo funds before he was against it.
For Decriminalization of marijuana before he was against it.
For partial birth abortion before he was against it.
For controlling Special interests before he sold out to them.
For surrendering in Iraq before brave people won it.
For abrogating NAFTA before he was against it.
Against the surge before he realized it was a success.
I could go on and on here...There are web sites devoted to his flipflops. You simply can't believe a word out of his dishonorable mouth.Even his supporters recognize that on some level.
'Too bad, but time had passed McCain, time for new choices, time for new ideas and time for McCain to go back to the Senate.'
You are going to see rough times ahead. This country is going to learn a hard lesson.
'What a moron. Atlas is dead. Ayn Rand, a rightwingnut from Canada'
She was from Russia. Canadians are only good at producing left wing nuts who whine about US politics while Stephen Harper gets re-elected.
'was discredited decades ago.'
By whom?
'That is to be expected from a republican't, they are stuck in the past.'
Nothing says 'future' like adopting the failed policies of socialism. Nothing says 'future' like going back to the 1930's.
suggest we give Obama what he wants when (if?) he gets in:
- stop working hard
- apply for every handout going (and apply multiple times and don’t stop until they say yes)
- stop spending any money beyond necessities as doing so would just be putting money in someone else’s pocket
- once on Obamas medical plan, make appointments to go to the doctor at least twice every week for even the most minor complaints, like a papercut or a hangnail
- max out credit cards but use it to buy durables like gold bullion
- do not pay mortgages or other debts (and don’t keep money in the bank either)
basically do everything possible to make sure his socialist BS utopia collapses as soon as possible - the sooner it happens, the sooner America can be rid of him.
I didn't have much faith in her to begin with, but when it was stated that when her older children were called in to her room to see the baby right after it was born, one daughter said 'Mom, he looks like he has Down Syndrome!' She said she told them that they would love him anyway. How could a mother not prepare her children for this when she had known for months. She said 'she didn't know how to do it.' What a cruel thing to do to these girls who were certainly old enough to be told ahead of time!! Just one more ineptness of her character to add to the long list.
Canada is a satellite of communist Russia, just like Cuba, a-hole, therefor they are the same thing. What is a rightwingnut like you doing believing in a commies propaganda anyway? F*ck are you ever mixed up, dude.
YOU say: 'Nothing says 'future' like going back to the 1930's.'
Just like Ayn Rand, right? She is soooooo retro. And you jus loooove being a retrograde moron, don't you.
'Canada is a satellite of communist Russia, just like Cuba, a-hole, therefor[sic] they are the same thing.'
Like I said, you are a moron.
'Just like Ayn Rand, right? She is soooooo retro.'
I am not the 'change' moron, you are.
McCain along with his Ginseng may be tied to Bush and the economy in his mind, but the greatest weight by far is that HUGE block of Arctic cretinous crap shackled around his scraggy neck.
THAT has buried him well and proper.
Like it or not, the McCain camp has blown it`s own foot off.
OBAMA will romp home like a modern day SEABISCUIT. It is a no-contest from now on. All the old guy will see until November is Obama`s arse a few miles in front.
RIP Grandpa. Pleasant dreams.
'McCain inevitably tied to Bush and economy'
You are going to wish for the good old days of Bush after the coming mess. Seriously. And there will be no one else to blame:
The Obama/Biden ticket's entire campaign theme is based on 'the last eight years.' Maybe we should really look at 'the last two years,' or the time period when both the House and the Senate were run by Democrats.
In December 2006, after six years of Bush and the last month before the Democrats took over both houses of the national legislature, a snapshot of our economy looked like this.
* Unemployment stood at 4.4%.
* Real GDP growth over the previous four years (under a Republican President, House and Senate) averaged 3% per year.
* A gallon of regular gasoline cost $2.30.
* The S&P 500 stock index stood at 1418, or 84% above its post-911 low and more than 7% higher than when Bush took office.
* Every year of Bush's Presidency, real (inflation-adjusted) disposable income per person went up. By the end of 2006, the average person was making 9% more in real terms than before Bush became President.
If you recall, that 2006 election was considered a referendum on Iraq. The people wanted change, so they threw out the Republicans and replaced them with Democrats. Welcome Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.
Here is how they handled Iraq once in office: Harry Reid told us that the Iraq war was 'lost' and the surge was not 'accomplishing anything.' Senator Obama introduced legislation that would have prevented the surge and would have taken all US troops out of Iraq by March 2008 (that would be seven months ago, as you read this).
What we need to change is congress. Instead we will be giving them unchecked rule if we elect Obama.
'All the old guy will see until November is Obama`s arse a few miles in front.'
That would be Obamas wifes arse. The only movable object big enough to be seen from outer space.
The terrible Presidential turd from Texas is actually going to host an International Summit meeting of all the world`s leaders and top Finance Ministers ; Subject !
THE GLOBAL ECONOMIC CRISIS !!!!!!!!!
This lunatic started it all in the first place during his catastrophic rule, by creating the biggest financial cock-up since the legendary Wall Street Crash of 1929 and NOW he`s got the audacity to lecture others.
All his presence will do is ensure that all the other countries make a glorious cock-up of their economies too.
Then when he`s completely shagged up the entire planet`s economy - he`ll piss off and leave it all for others to sort out at the end of the year.
The final TV meeting of the two Titan`s was a debacle.
It resembled the Muppet Show with Obama as the lively, agile and energetic Kermit and McCain as the sluggish, bumbling idiot Gonzo.
The old man looked shocked and embarrassed as if he had just farted in a crowded lift.
As always - Kermit won the day.
We will always have you and your butt buddy SP4 to pick on. I don't thing anyone on this site used McSame as a 'scapegoat'. We (at least I) believe he was only part of the problem and should be sent back to the senate with a resounding NO to his Presidential hopes.
He is too old, too outdated, his decision making is questionable when he brought Caribou Barbie to the party, has not idea how the economics of this country (and the world) works, and is not the Maverick he claims to be. He used to be but no more. He was poisoned by the current administration and deserves to be painted by that brush.
Also please remember when you are spouting the 'socialist' comments it was a Republican't administration that started the movement of this country to that side. They should have let it drop, that is the way it is suppose to work, but once you start down that road you cannot come back. Now we will see if that was the right move.
The Arctic cretin and barbarian extraordinaire Palin was motoring home on the AK-1, when her car phone rang.
It was her dear hubby Todd-the-plod.
'Hi honey, it`s ya lovin Todd here. Be careful my sweetie-pie, it has just been given out on the news that a car is driving down the wrong way on the AK-1 at great speed'
She replies ;- ' Ya gotta be jokin angel, there are hundreds of them doin it'
'You are going to wish for the good old days of Bush after the coming mess. Seriously. And there will be no one else to blame:'
I doubt that very much, with those idiots in charge for 6 of the 8 years, things may get worse for a while but a different direction will make it come back stronger. Bush should really be humiliated in some way that for the next 50 years whenever his name is puked out, people say the same thing 'at lease they are not as bad as the Bush Administration.'
'The Obama/Biden ticket's entire campaign theme is based on 'the last eight years.' Maybe we should really look at 'the last two years,' or the time period when both the House and the Senate were run by Democrats.'
'In December 2006, after six years of Bush and the last month before the Democrats took over both houses of the national legislature, a snapshot of our economy looked like this.'
You idiot, 2 years out of 8 while the Republican's are setting records for filibusters. You are the neo-con right wing idiot you have been accused of being.
'* Unemployment stood at 4.4%.
* Real GDP growth over the previous four years (under a Republican President, House and Senate) averaged 3% per year.
* A gallon of regular gasoline cost $2.30.
* The S&P 500 stock index stood at 1418, or 84% above its post-911 low and more than 7% higher than when Bush took office.
* Every year of Bush's Presidency, real (inflation-adjusted) disposable income per person went up. By the end of 2006, the average person was making 9% more in real terms than before Bush became President.'
Idiot, trickle down did not work. Easy to explain.
'If you recall, that 2006 election was considered a referendum on Iraq. The people wanted change, so they threw out the Republicans and replaced them with Democrats. Welcome Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.'
Yes and thank god for them or we would be in worse shape.
'Here is how they handled Iraq once in office: Harry Reid told us that the Iraq war was 'lost' and the surge was not 'accomplishing anything.' Senator Obama introduced legislation that would have prevented the surge and would have taken all US troops out of Iraq by March 2008 (that would be seven months ago, as you read this).'
Yes and were right! We have accomplished nothing except killing 4000+ US troops and wounding 25000 troops---al for a failed idea. Afghanistan was and is still the only country that deserved what they got. Now maybe we will get out of Iraq and finish the job in Afghanistan?
'What we need to change is congress. Instead we will be giving them unchecked rule if we elect Obama.'
We are going to change Congress and I mean 'we'. And I hope we get to 60 and elect Obama, they we can take this country in a direction 'good' Americans deserve. If you don't like it please move to some offshore country and help them out.
By the way did I tell you you are an idiot?
It`s fine you lot throwing bricks at each other and outlining what either of these two monstrosities will or will not do as President, BUT this headline story has something missing.
Go on guess. OK, I`ll tell you - there is not ONE SP4 poster listed in all 4 pages !!
Where has the guy gone ? He is usually first and then repetitive.
This is serious. Has he shot himself ? Has he emigrated to a better land ?
Has he been recruited into the Obama camp as tactical advisor ?
No telling, but it is a great loss to us all. Who can we take the piss out of now ? There is only Tonny from Belgium, but she is not worth our superb debating material.
Wherever you are ESS PEE, come back to us, all is forgiven.
WHACK-A-MOLE promises to be nice to you.
YOU SAY: I am not the 'change' moron, you are.
Ah, so you are resistant to change. Still stuck in the 30's with Ayn(us) Rand. That is soooo, republican't, moron.
You say: 'Wherever you are ESS PEE, come back to us, all is forgiven.
WHACK-A-MOLE promises to be nice to you.'
Don't you dare return, EssPee. Keep on going to hell.
All is NOT forgiven.
Whack a mole will NOT be nice to EssPee.
Whack-a-mole promises to beat on his hollow little head.
-SP's Stalker.
'We will always have you and your butt buddy SP4 to pick on.'
Wrong again, at least on my account.
'I don't thing anyone on this site used McSame as a 'scapegoat'. '
That wasn't addressed to you.
'He is too old, too outdated, '
You are like a child, grabbing on to something 'new' because it is presented in a shiny new wrapper that flatters YOUR prejudices. Obama's policies have been tried over and over and have failed over and over.
' He was poisoned by the current administration and deserves to be painted by that brush'
That is the scapegoat. You are being lead around by the nose because you have been conditioned to reflexively hate someone who isn't even running. John McCain is not George Bush and Barack Obama is going drag this country down to the point where you will miss the freedom you had under George Bush.
'Also please remember when you are spouting the 'socialist' comments it was a Republican't administration that started the movement of this country to that side.'
So does that make it OK to nationalize entire industries and create a civilian 'army' that will be dependent on a democratic administration to get their paycheck? Does that make it OK to resurrect FAILED ideas like the windfall profit tax and other idiotic schemes that Carter tried which had us in double digit inflation, gas lines and record unemployment?
' They should have let it drop'
They should have stopped it before it became a problem. They didn't because Freddie and Fannie bought off the banking comities democratic members to stop regulation and give people mortgages that they couldn't afford. You know... because it is somehow kinder to the lower class to get them in to a situation where they can't pay for what they have so we should add on more debt to bail them out.
We are going to be bankrupted by this nonsense. We simply can not afford the gigantic entitlement programs that Obama will create. It will push our debt over our GDP and make our dollar worthless. It will be the end of the USA as a superpower.
No wonder the posts have been that biased and ignorant. Her press agent was not around to filter her.
ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iloPGZIqGjpwevwGDywfiaW5zBBwD93T8RB80
Since taking office in December 2006, Palin has had a sometimes tense relationship with black leaders, who say they've been ignored in their efforts to get more minorities hired in her administration.
In Alaska, blacks chafed when Palin failed to issue a proclamation last year endorsing a festival that marks the freeing of slaves, though she did issue one this year. On the campaign trail, her events sometimes have attracted fringe groups hostile to minorities. At one rally attended by Palin, a supporter told a black cameraman to 'sit down, boy.'
Many of Palin's black constituents say they are disgusted with the campaign's racial overtones.
'It's really been like you're going to a Ku Klux Klan rally,' said Javis Odom, an Anchorage minister. 'Gov. Palin is really showing her true colors on the national stage.'
In Alaska, the issue of race relations usually focuses on Alaska Natives, who make up 18 percent of the population. Blacks, in contrast, make up 4 percent. Patterson and Odom say that when they've pressed Palin about diversity in hiring, she gets defensive and even testy.
In Palin's only face-to-face meeting with black leaders in 21 months in office, words became terse when the issue of diversity arose, according to several who attended the March 2007 gathering in Anchorage. Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell also attended the 45-minute meeting.
Participants say Palin refused to reconsider her decision not to reappoint two black officials — including Stewart — from her predecessor's administration. The implication from Palin was 'you can't tell me how to do my job,' said Anchorage businessman Mayfield Evans. 'Her top lip got really tight. You could tell she was upset, that something was not right.'
you say : 'Wrong again, at least on my account.'
Yes, your account is still wrong.
'things may get worse for a while but a different direction will make it come back stronger.'
The right side will be adopting the same tactics as the left. You have people already working on making this really hurt in order to pin it on Obama, just as has been done with Bush. I am against that by the way, Onbama isn't going to need any help in making a mess.
'Bush should really be humiliated in some way that for the next 50 years whenever his name is puked out, people say the same thing 'at lease they are not as bad as the Bush Administration.' '
You are insane. You have shown over and over that you don't give a damn about the country, you just hate Bush. Even if it means surrendering to bin laden, you are more then willing to do that to take a swipe at Bush.
'You are the neo-con right wing idiot you have been accused of being.'
I care about this country and I am watching a catastrophe in the making. You have been categorically wrong, your judgment has been sh*t and you are absolutely ruled by your anger and bigotry yet, God forbid, you just might get your way.
'Idiot, trickle down did not work. Easy to explain.'
No, idiot, the democrats got control of the budget. True, the republicans did a lousy job previously, but the democrats have ensured that the economy has tanked.
'Yes and thank god for them or we would be in worse shape.'
What have they done? They tried to lose the war in Iraq to pin it on Bush and they failed. The only thing the democrats HAVE done is stop regulation of freddie and fannie which has caused this crisis that AMAZINGLY they have been able to exploit with the help of a mendacious media.
'Yes and were right! '
They were right to vote to go to war and then vote to cut the limb out from under the troops that they have sent out.. They were 'right' toi try to surrender to the islamist pigs who attacked us on 9/11 that we were fighting in Iraq.
' We have accomplished nothing except killing 4000+ US troops and wounding 25000 troops-'
We broke al qaeda and have gotten rid of Saddam Hussein. Regardless, Congress voted for this war and surrendering it would have been a gigantic catastrophe.
'Now maybe we will get out of Iraq and finish the job in Afghanistan?'
By invading Pakistan? My nephew was to be the 8th generation in the US Navy... He is taking a pass because he doesn't want to serve under someone who holds the military in such contempt. Atlas shrugging. They may even have to come after people like you.
'And I hope we get to 60 and elect Obama, they we can take this country in a direction 'good' Americans deserve. '
By good you mean indoctrinated and compliant. No thanks. The direction you want is an abomination to everything our founding fathers left us and I will fight you every step of the way.
' If you don't like it please move to some offshore country and help them out.'
I intend to move my money offshore. If people like me flood out of the country who is going to pay for the welfare for people like you?
'By the way did I tell you you are an idiot?'
Your opinion counts for nothing beyond your effort to drag me down with you. It wont happen. You are going to be a failure in whatever economic framework is imposed.
I want the crystal ball that so many seem to have that they are able to see into the future after the elections.
@Nice try, You ...Oct 19th, 2008 - 23:54:55
'Ah, so you are resistant to change.'
I am resistant to needy idiots who are willing to turn their freedoms over to the latest snake oil salesman that sells them a raft of BS in order that they can have a momentary feeling of 'belonging'. Boy are you in for a disappointment. Santa isn't coming to give you my money. Indeed, the tax man is coming to make sure you don't have anything that hasn't been approved.
Not that a loser like you would know what it is to earn something to begin with, you need to be carried by the productive while you whine that you aren't getting enough.
'Still stuck in the 30's with Ayn(us) Rand. '
I would recommend that you actually read her work, but that ain't going to happen. Just continue on making a fool out of yourself on the internet. Maybe Obama will come to your rescue and cure your mental problems.
'Yes, your account is still wrong. '
Brilliant as always.
You say: 'I am resistant to needy idiots who are willing to turn their freedoms over to the latest snake oil salesman that sells them a raft of BS in order that they can have a momentary feeling of 'belonging'.'
Yup, sure. You really resisted Bush/Cheney/Rove didn't you? They are the original oily snakes.
You say: 'I would recommend that you actually read her work, but that ain't going to happen.'
I read Ayn(us) Rand long before you were born, sweetcheeks. And you republican'ts are still stuck in the 30's with her.
She's also long (thankfully) dead, much like Republicanism, which is now merely a twitching corpse. Mind you, you toe-tappers will hump anything including a twitching corpse.
You say: 'Brilliant as always.'
Thank you. I'm glad we agree on one thing.
Who needs Colin Poewell? Who is he compared to Joe the Plumbber? what give him the right to say that Sarah was a lousy pick? I think Joe would say Sarah is the best. joe is so much smarter than Poewell that so the country will; see that now and rally around Sarah and will keep America free and get taxes down and nucler poweer up and all.
'Yup, sure. You really resisted Bush/Cheney/Rove didn't you? They are the original oily snakes. '
So electing worse will somehow make up for that...
'I read Ayn(us) Rand long before you were born, sweetcheeks'
Anyone who is infantile enough to spell her name 'Ayn(us) Rand' is more of the Beavis and Butt-Head generation/mentality then mine.
'She's also long (thankfully) dead, much like Republicanism, which is now merely a twitching corpse. Mind you, you toe-tappers will hump anything including a twitching corpse.'
Classy as always as well. Again, with such a mentality you are going to be a pathetic loser no matter who is elected.
Says you: '...is more of the Beavis and Butt-Head generation/mentality then mine.'
Not possible.
'Again, with such a mentality you are going to be a pathetic loser no matter who is elected.'
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Again with the 'I'm rubber you're glue' retort. And you expect people to think you are well read? Give it up.
'You folks should look at the Alaska Independence Party and the Palins associations with it'
She has never been a member.
'This secessionist movement wants to get Alaska to leave the United States, and seize all federal land in that state.'
No it isn't, no they do not. They want the referendum on statehood that was promised them in the '1950's. Even if your lie was correct, at this rate I can't blame them for wanting out.
'Todd Palin is a card carrying member of the AIP'
No he is not. That is a lie.
'Governor Palin sent this party a best wishes greeting for their 2008 convention. '
Yes, and in doing so she stated that she did no agree with their message.
'Any trace of the American flag is conspicuously absent. '
Sort of like the American flag Obama had removed from his aircraft and replaced with a gigantic 'O'?
'How can a person associated to[sic] secessionist movements be a patriot?'
She isn't associated with secessionist movements. How can someone who pals around with terrorists and who attended the damn America church be patriotic?
He isn't.
Regarding: 'to[sic]'
Now you have a problem with the spelling of the word 'to'? I thought you were educated. After all, grade 1 was the best 6 years of your life.
Will any moonbat heads be exploding over this? After all, they’ve been vilifying Powell for years for “lying us into a war.”
I’m going to take a wild guess and say the lefties will suddenly forget all about it.
Give it up, pudnocker.
'Now you have a problem with the spelling of the word 'to'? I thought you were educated.'
Not spelling, idiot. It should be 'associated with', idiot.
'After all, grade 1 was the best 6 years of your life.'
I actually skipped it. Is 'grade 1' whee you got that sad attempt at a joke?
It should be 'where' instead of 'whee'.
oh, so now you are an expert on grammar, punctuation and the general usage of the English language? Not even close, sweetcheeks. Your posts are so poorly constructed that I am surprsed they don't fall down under the weight of your crappy verbiage. Here is an example: 'whee you got that sad attempt at a joke?'
So what did you do for those six years of skipping Grade 1, truant?
'have' to read your crap?
Have to????
I am compelling you to do something?
You have no free will?
'We'????
What's this 'we' Kemo Sabe? Do you have more than one worm crawling around in your head-case, headcase?
'oh, so now you are an expert on grammar, punctuation and the general usage of the English language? Not even close, '
So should it be 'associated to' instead of 'associated with'? You are wrong again.
''whee you got that sad attempt at a joke?''
And I posted It should be 'where' instead of 'whee' immediately after, idiot. Congratulations, you humiliate yourself again.
Yes, please do. I know it is hard for you, after playing truant for six years of primary education. Congratulations, you humiliate yourself again.
'Yes, please do. I know it is hard for you, after playing truant for six years of primary education.'
And again, you default to the 'I'm rubber you're glue retort.' In light of that are you sure it's a good idea to bring up stagnating in 'grade 1'?
Congratulations, you humiliate yourself again.
And again, you default to the 'I'm rubber you're glue retort.'
You continue to embarrass yourself.
'@To the hysterical idiot
You continue to embarrass yourself.
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do you have anything intelligent to say that is on topic? No? I thought not.'
Thanks for more crap.
You are very welcome. Anytime. Enjoy. Savor the flavor.
All kidding aside, I do believe the word you really wanted was sh*t.
Go to school, get an education, sweetcheeks. My response would have been the same. Enjoy. Savor the flavor.
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“All kidding aside, I do believe the word you really wanted was sh*t.”
Nope. I chose my word correctly. All kidding aside; Drop dead.
“My response would have been the same.”
It still would have been infantile.
'All kidding aside; Drop dead'
Nice, intelligent discourse there, headcase. Very persuasive argument. Well thought out, for a cretin. Do you have anything intelligent to say that is on topic? Still stuck on no? I see that is the case, headcase.
You continue to be an embarrassment to yourself.
'Very persuasive argument. Well thought out'
It wasn't an argument. Obviously. Since you don't know what a counterargument is I am not surprised that you don't know what an argument is.
Ah, so the petulant little cretin is making demands. Go have a temper tantrum, diaper wearer. Throw yourself on the floor, kick your legs and whine cry and generally carry on like the baby you are, because it isn't going to happen.
You continue to embarrass yourself, headcase.
It would just be saving you from the misery that is your existence. Lashing out at others on the internet because you aren't capable of any kind of success or happiness will only keep you locked in your despair-rage cycle.
'Throw yourself on the floor, kick your legs and whine cry and generally carry on like the baby you are, because it isn't going to happen.'
That is exactly what you have done here. Continually. Whether it be stalking and pestering SP4 with your stupid little retorts indicating that you hang on his every word. (Imagine that... hanging on SP4's every comment. What a useless existence)or playing your little playground game with me. It is pathetic. The fact that you know and demand an explanation for when I travel is also pathetic. Carrying on like a big baby because you have no control over your life and you want to exert a little control here is just sad. I would feel sorry for you if you weren't such a POS.
Indeed, you are undoubtedly locked in this pattern by your crappy attitude. You really would be doing yourself and everyone else a favor if you acceded to my demand because your life isn't going to get any better and it is hard to imagine it getting worse then being SP4's creepy stalker.
I am not going to vote for Obama...he is black and different than me. Sarah Palin is hot, who cares if she is stupid as hell...I am a republican and think woman are dumb anyway. The old man fought in the war (he is also white and rich) which makes him qualified to run this country.
P.S. Go Republicans!!!(a.k.a. white power!!!)
It would just be saving you from the misery that is your existence. Lashing out at others on the internet because you aren't capable of any kind of success or happiness will only keep you locked in your despair-rage cycle.
That is exactly what you have done here. Continually. Whether it be stalking and pestering total strangers with your stupid little retorts indicating that you hang on their every word. (Imagine that... hanging on other's every comment. What a useless existence)or playing your little playground game with me. It is pathetic. The fact that you know and demand an explanation for when I travel is also pathetic. Carrying on like a big baby because you have no control over your life and you want to exert a little control here is just sad. I would feel sorry for you if you weren't such a POS.
Indeed, you are undoubtedly locked in this pattern by your crappy attitude. You really would be doing yourself and everyone else a favor if you acceded to my demand because your life isn't going to get any better and it is hard to imagine it getting worse then being total stranger's creepy stalker.
You continue to embarrass yourself, headcase stalker.
It doesn't surpise me at all. Powell is a one world socialist anyway, a big UN guy. I never understood why he was in the Republican Party to begin with. He is definitely left of center in his thinking.
I am a white conservative who lost a lot of money in Wall Street. You bet ya I am ready for a change.
The fact that Powell,as republican endorses Obama is very important.It should take away the argument that voting for Obama puts your country in harm's way .His judgment can not be ignored .You have ,as a country,been subjected to fear politics .Time to wake up to a better world.You might have gotten a bit more close to a better life if the neocon had not steered you into the disastrous Iraq war.Some off you still claim that war needs to be won.Remember a war started on lies is always a lost cause,even if you win all battles.after all these years in Iraq for the lies of Wolfowitz,Rove,Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld and Bolton some of you keep asking for more from the same team ?If winning the war in Iraq is all about not losing face ,what was starting it based on all the lies doing for your face ?
At least Powell came to the right conclusion years ago and dissociated himself from the BUsh administration,retired and as an obedient military servant refused to give his personal opinion,kept quite until h noticed behind McCain the same cabal that pulled the strings of Bush.
These neocons now keep a low profile,they still pull the strings of McCain.
'Another Republican voting for Obama'
No you are not.
'I am a white conservative who lost a lot of money in Wall Street. You bet ya I am ready for a change.'
Change is all you will be left with you dumb cracker after the 'wealth' (Your IRA) gets 'spread'.
You say: 'Change is all you will be left with you dumb cracker after the 'wealth' (Your IRA) gets 'spread'.'
If McCain is elected(very, very doubtful) all you will be left with is a sore arse, after your cheeks get spread. The Eleventh Commandment: Never bend over in front of a Republican't. 12th Commandment: Never, ever give a Republican a second chance, if you were dumb enough to give him one in the first place.
'It should take away the argument that voting for Obama puts your country in harm's way '
Powell was one of those pushing to invade Iraq.
'His judgment can not be ignored'
He set that aside to go with his race.
' .Time to wake up to a better world.'
My apartment overlooks ground zero. Some of us don't have the luxury of pretending that everything is just dandy. Obama will weaken this country in the face of a very real threat.
'ou might have gotten a bit more close to a better life if the neocon had not steered you into the disastrous Iraq war.'
Guess that makes Powell a neocon.
'.Some off you still claim that war needs to be won.'
Sure, we are not cowards from Belgium.
'.Remember a war started on lies '
Powell....
'll these years in Iraq for the lies of Wolfowitz,Rove,Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld and Bolton'
And Powell...
'ome of you keep asking for more from the same team '
None of them are running again you moron.
'If winning the war in Iraq is all about not losing face'
It is about defeating THE SAME islamist pigs that attacked us; Al Qaeda.
'These neocons now keep a low profile,they still pull the strings of McCain.'
You are full of crap.
' McCain is elected(very, very doubtful) all you will be left with is a sore arse, after your cheeks get spread.'
You are obsessed with homosexual references. Telling.
'The Eleventh Commandment: Never bend over in front of a Republican't. '
I thought it was never pay attention to a whiny Canadian.
Is that you, headcase? You're still wrong about my nationality.
Don't you ever get tired of doing that? Probably not, a functioning brain is required for that to happen. You are still embarrassing yourself.
It's unfair to label Powell responsible for the Iraqi war,he is a servant of the political establishment,nothing more.The pack of lies that led to this war never originated from him,and considering almost the entre american nation,excluding Obama,fell prey to the lies ,there is no disgrace.The only error to be made is,knowing all these lies,to contune traveling the same road whilst pretending to be right.That is why I still claim the war in Iraq will never be won.Gaining a military advantage over the insurgents or appeasing them by bribing their leaders with money will never change the flawed cause for this war.Claiming you are defeating Al Quaida in Iraq is conveniently they were never there in the first place .I would hope not everybody is as headstrong as those that keep shouting they want to stay in Iraq for another 100 years....without even bothering to ask the the Iraqis .
I hope that those willing to follow the path taken by McCain can come up with better reasons for doing so.The reasons given by one of the previous posters simply make no sense.They are just meant to elude the most important issues.
It seems the McCAin campaign is traveling a new road since a few day.They are now claiming your country is to become socialist under Obama.To illustrate that they spread panic as usual:the government will steal your money and give it to the lazy.How ridiculous.Where is that happening here in Europe ?
The way I see things is that the rich are stealing your money,just look at the financial crisis.Who's robbing who?
Who is behind McCain if not the oil lobby,the armament industry ,the insurance companies and the pharmaceutical industry .Guess why?
It's unfair to label Powell responsible for the Iraqi war,he is a servant of the political establishment,nothing more.The pack of lies that led to this war never originated from him,and considering almost the entre american nation,excluding Obama,fell prey to the lies ,there is no disgrace.The only error to be made is,knowing all these lies,to contune traveling the same road whilst pretending to be right.That is why I still claim the war in Iraq will never be won.Gaining a military advantage over the insurgents or appeasing them by bribing their leaders with money will never change the flawed cause for this war.Claiming you are defeating Al Quaida in Iraq is conveniently they were never there in the first place .I would hope not everybody is as headstrong as those that keep shouting they want to stay in Iraq for another 100 years....without even bothering to ask the the Iraqis .
I hope that those willing to follow the path taken by McCain can come up with better reasons for doing so.The reasons given by one of the previous posters simply make no sense.They are just meant to elude the most important issues.
It seems the McCAin campaign is traveling a new road since a few day.They are now claiming your country is to become socialist under Obama.To illustrate that they spread panic as usual:the government will steal your money and give it to the lazy.How ridiculous.Where is that happening here in Europe ?
The way I see things is that the rich are stealing your money,just look at the financial crisis.Who's robbing who?
Who is behind McCain if not the oil lobby,the armament industry ,the insurance companies and the pharmaceutical industry .Guess why?
Some food for thought for those Caucasians who think they are white supremacists, with no trace of Negroid ancestry -
Albinos--The Origin of the Caucasian Race?
As new information comes down the pike, it is necessary to rethink theories that were once in place. The origin and labeling of the “so called” Caucasian, Negroid, and Mongoloid Races by 19th Century scientists, started racial groupings based on skin color by naturalists and anthropologists like Johann F. Blumenbach, JA Gobineau and HS Chamberlain. These men also equated skin color to psychological value and importance to race. Blumenbach named whites after the Caucasus Mountains because he thought the purest white people originated there. He didn't seem to realize the following:
Russia, Chechens, Armenians, and other Southern Russians are considered to have Black Negro origins and CAUCASUS MOUNTAINS PEOPLE ARE CLASSIFIED AS 'BLACK,' AND ARE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST. The fact is, BLACKS HAVE LIVED IN SOUTHERN RUSSIA SINCE PREHISTORIC TIMES AND HAVE OCCUPIED THE BLACK SEA REGION SINCE THE TIME OF Senwosret/Sesostris (2000 BC) WHEN AFRICANS DOMINATED THE REGION (SEE 'HERODOTUS' ON THE COLCHIANS).
FROM AFRICA – NOT TO AFRICA!
Today The American Anthropological Association declares there is no such thing as race which is merely a “social construct.” If that is the new scientific principle, then….
MANKIND IS NEGROID! – THE ONLY RACE (ETHNIC GROUP) THAT EVER EXISTED IS NEGROID!
There are plenty of scientific facts to back up this principle. According to The South African Institute for Medical Research in review – Journal of South African Science, THE HIGH FREQUENCY OF ALBINISM IN AFRICA provides more clues to early African history. The Department of Human Genetics at the SAIMR is currently involved with numerous research projects, most related to human genetic disorders and population origins--one of these, ‘Albinism in African peoples’ having received particular attention because it offers new insights into the historical movement of peoples in sub-Saharan Africa.
The albinism syndrome shows parallels with sickle cell anemia. The carrier of the sickle cell mutation is at an advantage in regions where malaria is hyperendemic, which includes large areas of Africa.
About one in 35 southern African blacks is a carrier of an albinism mutation, a surprisingly high prevalence for a genetic disorder where the homozygote is at a survival disadvantage. It is postulated that the albinism carrier may actually be at an advantage, possibly also with malaria as the selective agent. It has been suggested that mosquitoes are less likely to alight and take blood from a lighter-skinned person and thus the albinism carrier may be at an advantage over darker-skinned people. The testing of this hypothesis is opening up a new line of research into malaria studies, which may yet show some other selective agent may be responsible for the high frequency of albinism in Africa.
The new scientific genetic information derived from the Human Genome Project, an international effort to decode the information embedded in the human genome, confirmed to the world by scientists in the East Room of the White House (June, 2000). We all evolved in the last 100,000 years from the same small number of tribes that migrated out of Africa and colonized the world'. 'All human beings are 99.99% the same at the DNA level and the remaining 0.1% genetic variation that exist seldom segregate in a manner that confirms to the racial boundaries constructed by social political means.”
Many years before the Human Genome's Project announcement of its historical DNA findings on so called 'race' (in June of 2000), historians have revealed that human beings, during the primitive era in ancient/antiquity Africa - The Origin of Humankind/Humanity states that due to the lack of knowledge about inbreeding (between closely related parents) they did not understand why their off spring were born with 'white skin.' Scientists say 'white skin' is a form of Albinism (a genetic defected offspring -- lacking melanin).
As all us republicans know, there is only one true race. jesus was white! sceince dont know nuttin! YEEE HAAAA! the bible speaks the truth, thats why our country was built on it!
All us republicans only need to see that he is black, that makes him a arab and a terrorist! Facts dont meen nuttin! he is black, like that william Ayers feller. we only want our goverment to tell us what to do in our personal lives, not what to do with our money. i am more amarican than you because i love jesus...not in a homo kinda way either...unless he was into that kind of thing, then i might take a shot or 2 in the face like our V.P.s freind there. listen, all im sayin is, you vote for obama and you are sayin the cival war is over! then whats next? a woman for V.P.?
Jesus Christ was a full blooded Jew, so his skin was a light brown, very similar to some Mexicans today. He would have about the same skin color as any Arab, any other Jew. He always had the skin tone of a 'white/caucasian' man with a good brown tan.
Jesus lived in Israel. He would have been tanned from the sun due to the fact that he was a carpenter. I believe that his skin would have been darker due to being exposed to the sun.
This is a give-me !! Everyone knew Powell would side with Obama !!
Why would a high ranking military man such as Powell side with
'McCain The Song Bird of Hanoi' check the net.
'Hanoi John should be hung for aiding North Vietnam'
..........and so it is !!
Colin Powell has a conflict of interest going. He has been offered a job with Obama. Sure he will vote for Obama!!
It seems painfully obvious that many people here have not even read (or cannot comprehend) Powell's actual remarks on Meet the Press. If you had you would realise that he was basically 'a McCain man' until poor John made his continued support impossible due to downright inept moves..... Palin/economic-waffling/slimy tactics....
For you guys now to heap criticism on 'one of your prime statesmen' is quite a comically desperate exhibition.
Well said, you are right on!!
With 9 pages of hysterical crap, It should be curtians any minute.
With 9 pages of hysterical crap, It should be curtians any minute.
With 9 pages of hysterical crap, It should be curtians any minute.
just what this has to do with Colin Powell endorsing Obama - I guess I missed something!
I dunno ! You had better ask Philistine Phil - that nutter started it.
@ Just wondering
It started with a Caucasian who suddenly had his little world of white supremacy dispelled, because he had no idea about genetics, DNA and evolution.
Unable to face up to the undisputed fact that somewhere in his past generations there will have been Negroid ancestors (moving from Africa into the rest of the World) he cannot summon a coherent argument to support his previous misconnceptions and now resorts to insults, personal attack, invective and obscenities.
He somehow thinks this type of communication will win the argument and nullify all the scientific facts which he doesn't understand.
Judge for yourself from my previous posts
It's unfair to label Powell responsible for the Iraqi war,he is a servant of the political establishment,nothing more.
sp4 - here it is folks, a lifetime Bush political wag and tonny greenlights him the moment he sides with Obama! He really served when he got Armitige to out Val Plame and let Foster hang for it.
The pack of lies that led to this war never originated from him,
sp4 - if they were lies, Tonny, they never originated with Bush, either, and Powell stepped up and passed them on.
and considering almost the entre american nation,excluding Obama,fell prey to the lies ,
sp4 - If you believe Obama can be fooled by the likes of Dumb ol Bush, why would you vote for him?
there is no disgrace.The only error to be made is,knowing all these lies,to contune
sp4 - well, you certainly have the correct guy for that
traveling the same road whilst pretending to be right.
sp4 - I cannot wait
That is why I still claim the war in Iraq will never be won.
sp4 - uh..our part is a success, so we could leave now and be done.
Gaining a military advantage over the insurgents or appeasing them by bribing their leaders with money will never change the flawed cause for this war.
sp4 - saddam is dead = success
Claiming you are defeating Al Quaida in Iraq is conveniently they were never there in the first place .
sp4 - except fo Zarqawi, safe passage, haven, money, passports, etc.
I would hope not everybody is as headstrong as those that keep shouting they want to stay in Iraq for another 100 years....without even bothering to ask the the Iraqis .
sp4 - this next chucklehad named Obama wants three more years.
I hope that those willing to follow the path taken by McCain can come up with better reasons for doing so.
sp4 - or Obama, take your pickThe reasons given by one of the previous posters simply make no sense.They are just meant to elude the most important issues.
It seems the McCAin campaign is traveling a new road since a few day.They are now claiming your country is to become socialist under Obama.
sp4 _ 'I waana spread the wealth'!
To illustrate that they spread panic as usual:
sp4 - no Tonny, panic is spreading alll by itself!
the government will steal your money and give it to the lazy.
sp4 - after all, they've never done that before, right?
How ridiculous.Where is that happening here in Europe ?
The way I see things is that the rich are stealing your money,just look at the financial crisis.Who's robbing who?
sp4 - Go ask Chris Dodd and be sure to get back to us...or Mr, Rezko...
Who is behind McCain if not the oil lobby,the armament industry ,the insurance companies and the pharmaceutical industry .Guess why?
sp4 - this is why Nader calls Obama 'the dem corporate pick'.
No, Tonny, you just proved you'd change your sex if it would elect a socialist. No, Tonny, Obama is going to keep us in Iraq, and have you justify it, next.
very angry Republican!
You bet. People can have very valid reasons for being angry. Mr. Ayers for one.
SP4 - IT TOOK YOU TEN PAGES TO SURFACE !
Were the screws too stiff to lift the lid and come out into the daylight ?
We`ve all been frantic with worry. Even WHACK-A-MOLE has put his club away.
Must be bloody good stuff you drink to kybosh you for that long.
Nice to see you back.
butt buddies with Karl Rove!
@OK Philistine..etc
Your latest does rather prove my point about not being able to summon facts to support your delusions of white purity and superiority.
You babble about evolution from apes, but don't seem to have a grasp of timescales. Apes were in the evolutionary chain some 3 or 4 MILLION years back, Hommo Sapiens however was only about 200 THOUSAND and moved out of Africa about 100 THOUSAND years ago.
Your Caucasian area was populated by Africans (Black !) in 2000 BC (from written records). White skins developed over this period , as I wrote earlier.
So, I ask just a single question. In the light of the above data, if you believe you have an unsullied genetic link back to some uniquely white skinned ancestry - where is this area ?
If it exists, this would be a great revelation since it doesn't fit the facts of dark skinned origins coming out of Africa, but maybe your 'scientific experience' has provided such evidence. If you cannot provide it then I must assume you are basing your apparent belief in white skinned supremacy, and your case in particular, on a lie. If you feel it necessary to base your life on such a falsehood and not face facts, then one must feel very sorry for you.
So I have posed the question - can you answer it coherently, avoiding invective and insult which simply undermines any credibility you have
This article dating from 206 describes the prologue to the second Iraq war and the role plauyed by Powell in it.Not too difficult for an open mind to conclude he was the only openminded person in the White House:
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/27/AR200609270010 6.html
It would be better to learn to spell Rhyme, before inventing bad verse
....there wil always be a Britain....
ATTENTION ALL PUNTERS ! A bit late after ELEVEN pages of absolute wisdom, but better late than never.
NOW HEAR THIS - THIS IS NO DRILL.
'Tonny from Belgium' has foxed us all - UNTIL NOW !
It is apparently a little lady who resides in Washington D.C, enjoying all the pleasures, prosperity and luxuries of the American Dream.
THAT is how she knows every stitch and tack of what is going on. She is NOT in Belgium at all, but stuck right here in the middle of it.
BELGIUM is a distant memory. Probably forgotten where it is.
SO, in future we will refer to her as ;-
FANNY FROM WASHINGTON D.C
Don`t be so sure of THAT `O One of Great Wisdom.
The damned place is listing to starboard with immigrants, asylum seekers and a whole variety of foreign scumbags. They flock here like maggots on a rotten carcase, after the huge number of benefits and other freebie`s the Government throw around like confetti.
...because whenver I think of an unbaised source for the Bush White House, the Washington Post just flys out of Dick Cheney's ass...
Is this something like Al Gore being a scientist?...or Mike Moore a serious documentarian?
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