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Candidates hit battlegrounds; Obama plans campaign break (Roundup)
Oct 21, 2008, 16:21 GMT
A file picture dated 28 August, 2008 shows Democratic Presidential candidate Barack Obama (R) hugging his wife Michelle on stage at the Democratic National Convention at Invesco Field in Denver, Colorado, USA. EPA/SHAWN THEW
Washington - With only 14 days to go before the US general election, presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama crisscrossed swing states Tuesday that will be crucial to success on November 4.
Obama held a roundtable discussion in Tampa, Florida with economic advisors and state governors from across the country, part of a major tour this week by the Democratic nominee and his surrogates across the state that gave President George W Bush a wafer-thin victory in 2000.
Republican nominee McCain planned three rallies Tuesday across Pennsylvania and will head to Ohio along with running mate Sarah Palin on Wednesday. Ohio narrowly handed Bush his re-election in 2004. Pennsylvania went to Democrats in the last two elections, but the heavily populated state is still considered up for grabs.
The criss-crossing campaigns come as early voting began this week in a select few states including Florida, Nevada and Texas, prompting long lines of eager voters outside polling stations.
Record turnout is expected this election amid high passions, new registrations of young voters and an expansion of early voting opportunities. Officials expect more than 30 per cent of voters to cast their ballots before November 4.
McCain is fighting an uphill battle in the final two weeks as polls have given Obama a steady lead both nationally and in many of the swing states that will decide who takes over the White House.
But the race took a turn Monday night as Obama campaign officials announced their candidate would take a break from the trail for two days later this week for a previously unplanned visit to his ailing grandmother in Hawaii.
Obama will continue his scheduled events through Thursday afternoon, when he will fly to Hawaii to visit Madelyn Dunham, 85.
Obama, 47, a US senator from Illinois, was partly raised by his maternal grandmother. He has spoken often during the campaign of her influence on him and his respect for the sacrifices that his mother and grandparents made for him.
In Florida, Obama communications director Robert Gibbs said that the candidate will scuttle political events in Iowa and Wisconsin to visit Dunham, who has been ill and suffered deteriorating health in recent weeks. Obama plans to resume campaigning on Saturday.
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Cue the SPAM, boys, let 'er rip.
'Funny how on one hand barracuda barbie
said she was against robocalls'
Where did she say that?
'Also sounds like she is not on the same page on yet another issue as McCain...'
Hey, Obama and Biden differ on the issues as well: Obama thinks he is qualified to be president.
Here is Biden saying that Obama isn't qualified to be president:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpjAs4vtc1w
'Not the place for on the job training.'
Here is Joe Biden stating that Obama will cause a 'global crisis' because of his inexperience:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdZgBJ7YuX0
Here is Biden saying McCain IS qualified to be president:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSpcxkKlEFA
He would be honored to run WITH McCain....
the GOP spambots hit the floor, running. Running like scarwed rabbits. They are Sooooo predictable.
Calling it spam isn't rebutting the facts:
First it was Joe Biden telling us that electing Obama will invite a massive international crisis within six months of his presidency and that Obama's poll numbers are going to tank shortly after the election because of the policies he will pursue. Then Barney Frank shouted loudly on CNBC that the time has come to increase taxes and increase spending and forget about the deficit. Now we have Madeline Albright stating that to say that electing obama will precipitate an international crisis is 'a statement of fact.' Ahhh the truth, how refreshing.
Here, the video of her saying it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_EAe1N9-M
'You really are a paranoid little freak, aren't you, spambot.'
You prove me right every time you thoughtlessly, stupidly lash out and seek to censor what you don't want to be made aware of.
Well, son, IF I do bury my head in the sand, that is better than you. You bury your head up your butt and breathe toxic fumes. No wonder you have worms in your brain case.
'Where did she say that'? On October 20th, 2008 at 9:00 a.m. - duh!!
''Where did she say that'? On October 20th, 2008 at 9:00 a.m. - duh!!'
Idiot...That is 'when' not 'where' and even that is fantasy.
You are a Republicant poor loser - get over it!
Hear the one about Palin telling 3rd graders that one of the jobs of the VP is to be in charge of the Senate and 'get in there' and help make policies. The Republican Party has got to be pointing the finger furiously at each other in blame for even thinking of picking her - or maybe even the middle finger!
Can't you recognize when you've been duped, stupid?
'VP is to be in charge of the Senate and 'get in there' and help make policies'
The Vice President serves as President of the Senate.
Maybe tonny is right... Americans are uneducated. Please tell me you are from Belgium.
As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber. He or she may be assigned additional duties by the president but, as the Constitution assigns no executive powers to the vice president, in performing such duties he or she acts only as an agent of the president.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States
So I watched the video in which Madeline Allbright confirmed the words of Joe Biden:she says you always have to be prepared for the unexpected.Nothing more .Now if we apply the absurd logics of the GOP saying that electing Obama is inviting a crisis then be those same absud logics Bush would be the reason why the Twin towers collapsed as his election caused a major international crisis .See how absurd ?
If I were the GOP I'd drop this stupid campaign of insinuations ans smear and return on topics such as policy .Every attempt of smear can be returned against them by the virtue of their own absurd interpretation of words and events .That isnot the road to be taken.Again I must stress that the reason they continue to do this is simply because they have nothing else that works for them.
They can hardly rely on the fact that 80 percent of CEO's vote for them and that the gap between the rich and the poor has widened dramatically in the USA,even much more than in other civilized countries .Neither can they rely on the fact that they are giving 750 billion dollars of your money to the bankers of Wall Street without any control,compensation of overview whilst claiming that 20 billion dollars to fund medicare for the poorest children is impossible for budget reasons .
Don't expect them to focus on reality ;they are too busy talking about the step grandmother of Obama .
Do you want democracy or do you want a circus with clowns from the GOP ?
You are sooo wrong - where have you been while the news is having a field day with Palin's latest stupid remark and the spiraling downward of her approval - clear the sand out of your ears.
There have been recent accusations that some posters are SPAM. This is quite insulting to the writers.
Let us be quite clear, THIS site is a Current Affairs forum dealing with news and EVERY single entry is by INVITATION.
There are bound to be strong comments made on the issues of today, this is an adult world and we must act in an adult way. Emotions run high and get severely tested and aired on certain topical matters.
SPAM is defined as unsolicited and unwanted mail.
As EVERY poster entered on the M&C site is by invitation, it CANNOT possibly be classified as SPAM.
Whether it is UNWANTED is a matter for the moderators to decide and NOT the readers.
Readers may not like the content of some posters, but that is life - some like it - some don`t.
So, if any juveniles or hyper-sensitive people enter this site and start throwing around SPAM or other adverse allegations, then please leave it and patronise a forum more in line with your age group or restrictive levels of tolerance.
OK Tonny our female correspondent, you may have Belgium connections, but as you live in Washington D.C, read all the local rags, mostly that awful piece of toilet paper the Washington Post and gawp at TV all day, do us a favor and drop this Belgium crap.
We don`t care a fig where you or your kin came from, least of all Belgium, so just put 'TONNY' and make us all happy. It sounds better, is more mature and you never know - we just may get to like you.
Your posts are quite good, they show an intimate profile of what is going on - OK, you simply repeat the crap from your paper etc., but it makes a good platform for us to throw bricks at you. Especially SP4, who I think, hates the very sight of your mails.
Anyway, my adopted American sweetie pie - let us just know you as TONNY.
Every single person in the US is an immigrant or from immigrant stock - THEY ALL CAME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE !
It would be hoorendous if we all adopted a 'Nom de Web' or pseudonym like you.
'There have been ...'
Wrong. The posters are SPAMMING, not SPAM itself. What the SPAMMERS do is post SPAM.
'Let us be quite clear, ...'
Yes let us be quite clear, this is Bullsh*t. Read what the words that say, just below the BIG, BOLD word Tailkback. It says: 'Add you comment (no registration required)
So, where is the invitation? I don't get an e-mail 'inviting' me to comment.
'As EVERY poster entered...'
More BULLSH*T.
'Whether it is UNWANTED ...'
Only a little true. The readers report something as UNWANTED, as SPAM. The Editors(not moderators, because this is a news site)take a look at it and say yes or no. Usually YES and delete the offending post. If there is too much SPAM, they delete the SPAMMER. The first decision to report it as UNWANTED, as SPAM is a decision by a reader. Editors cannot read every post as it come in.
'So, if any juveniles... '
Thank you for your juvenile concern for my sensitivities. So let us be quite clear - Take a hike, SPAMMER.
I have a feeling that this post was posted by the King of the Spammers, Smiley D also known as headcase, pudnocker, [sic] puppy, Creepy stalker, and a few more Noms-de-web. This is the 'gentleman' who attacks people, not their argument. This is the 'gentleman' who sees posts that don't exist. This 'gentleman' is a petulant little child who must have his way or he'll throw a temper tantrum. No wonder he's a GOP mouthpiece.
..a woman who advocated the overthrow of Saddam by intervention until the GOP took the White House and then she pilloried them for it. A woamn who advocated war in Eastern Europe as opposed to the lauded concept of international diplomacy, when it was her turn at bat.
In typical libnazi fashion, she is now reborn as some kind of respectable figure, while her previous sins are wiped away by the revisionist historians who reside in their tenured churches of the divine.
Now, we are to believe that because CEO's wish to be successful, this is some kind of sin, when this nation needs, desparately, successful CEO's doing successful business, not being pilloried by the Luddite left, who still think taxes grow the economy, after the glaring record tax revenue hauls Bush produced by lowering them.
The democrat party was once this entity. They advocated doing new things. They saved Chrysler. They advocated for lower taxes. They advocated for liberty and freedom. They advocated international intervention and containing communism. They once said 'we have nothing to fear but fear itself' until they now simply advocate fear.
When this ended, those who still believed in this party became republicans and were branded 'neo-cons' because they represented a new form of Conservatism. They were federalists. They advocated the original intent of the Constitution, not the twisted mess the like of Souter and his band of Bolsheviks do. They rejected deficit spending and advocated, honestly, for free trade, before taking money from the trade partners, not afterwards like the democrats. Most of all, they believe America is the meritocricy of the world and Meritocricy is the amswer to mediocrity.
The democrats? They embraced socialism. Johnson greenlighted it all and paid for Vietnam with our Social Security money. Carter hammered it home and the result has been deficit spending on built-in entitlements for the last 40 years.
No thanks.
For those of us who still believe in what John F. Kennedy believed, and advocated, we're willing to let America experiment, because we do not get a Reagan without a Carter.
'For those of us who still believe in what John F. Kennedy believed, and advocated, we're willing to let America experiment,'
Would somebody please enlighten me. I thought Kennedy was a Democrat. That would make him a SOCIALIST, an anathema to a good republican't like SP. As for the 'we...let' part, what a load of garbage. SP has no more power than a gnat.
'Readers may not like the content of some posters, but that is life - some like it - some don`t.
So, if any juveniles or hyper-sensitive people enter this site and start throwing around SPAM or other adverse allegations, then please leave it and patronise a forum more in line with your age group or restrictive levels of tolerance.'
Thank You.
Good old SP4 ,never fail to live up to your sordid reputation do you ?
I answered a post quoting Albright and twisting her words,pu everrything right ,and of coure the only thing you canj come up with is smear and more smear.Have you somehow failed to notice I just clarified her comment.Nothing in your smear even remotely connects to the discussion.
How typically you ....and next you 'll tell u all we sgouldn't be speaking about Sarah Palin's abuse of govrnment money,am I right ?
The people responsible for John McCain's campaign have lost their damn minds. I am fed up with the negativity and avoidance of the issue by McCain. Therefore, I, a registered Republican WILL vote for the Democratic candidate for president.
The democrats have caused the current financial melt down by their insulating freddie and fannie from regulation. Barney frank, Chris Dodd and Barack Obama were all getting hundreds of thousands of dollars from freddie and fannie to prevent regulation. The CEO's of freddie and fannie are Obamas financial advisor's and contributers. They gave some of the Millions of dollars from their golden parachutes to Obama's campaign. Obama was the #2 recipient of freddie and fannie money in the shortest period of time.
McCain has been a constant opponent of Pork, Obama will drive our debt over our gdp and bankrupt us.
The democrats voted to send our troops to war in Iraq and then voted to hang them out to dry. Had we followed Obamas 'Iraq War De-Escalation Act ' we would have turned Iraq over to al Qaeda and Iran instead of walking away in victory as we will after following McCain's advice with the surge and the choice of General Petraeus.
McCain has been a loyal American who has served this country honorably. Obama has surrounded himself with anyone who is willing to tear it down. Obama had 143 days in the senate before he decided he was ready to be president. That is just crazy that he could think he was ready to run the country. McCain has served the USA for 50 years.
I have seriously voted for democrat's before. Obama will be a disaster for the country, both domestically, economically and in foreign affairs.
'@CLARIFICATIONOct 22nd, 2008 - 17:43:09
'There have been ...'
Wrong. The posters are SPAMMING, not SPAM itself. What the SPAMMERS do is post SPAM.'
Since this has been posted twice now it is officially spam... Time to block the IP. :-D
You are so infatuated with your own puritanical ideals that you completely ignore the freedom of expression of other people.
If YOU don`t like something - BAN IT, or call the originator foul names.
What a pathetic outlook on life you have, I feel really sorry for you. The conduct of a Dictator in a democratic country.
Do you know the first principles of Internet operation ? Obviously not, since you are suggesting BANNING an IP.
What IP ? Which one would you like ?
'If YOU don`t like something - BAN IT, or call the originator foul names. '
You are the one who has been whining about 'spam' which is defined as any scrap of information that you don't want to see.
'The conduct of a Dictator in a democratic country.'
What hypocrisy. You have sought to shut down any legitimate discussion of your beloved Obamamessiah because you can't formulate a counterargument. You are a perfect microcosm of the very real danger free speech is in from the adolescents leftists in this country. THE OPPOSITE OF 'LIBERAL' IS 'INTOLERANT'. Again, the liberal left is showing it to be breathtakingly intolerant.
Grow up you ninnie, it is just an internet message board. Bits and bytes on someone else's server that can go with a stroke of a key. Stop going insane, stop stalking people, stop being such nut.
'Since this has been posted twice now it is officially spam... Time to block the IP. :-D'
Not so, Smiley D, headcase, pudnocker, King of Spam, Seer of posts that aren't there. It is a response to a post that was there. If the said post was on another thread, then THAT post is duplication. Response to that is not spam. The Editor has asked that multiple posting not be done. However if morons like you multiple post, then multiple response is legitimate. So, take your disturbed mind and trot off to Bellevue, Son. They have a room waiting for you.
If any IP is to be blocked it should be yours and SP4's for multiple crimes to wit: racism, obscenity, instigating personal attacks, SPAMMING.
You are the one who has been whining about spam being deleted
What hypocrisy. You have sought to shut down any legitimate discussion. Again, the neocon is showing it to be breathtakingly intolerant.
Grow up you ninnie. Stop going insane, stop stalking people, stop being such nut.
So... Isn't mindlessly cutting and pasting what someone else wrote Spam?
Can we please stop this perpetual nonsense about SPAM and endeavouring to restrict the freedom of others to comment, by making pointless objections.
Repeatability does NOT make a contribution SPAM, it simply makes it REPEATED.
If you do not like a poster for a specific reason - or the writer - all you have to do is compile a reply, possibly constructive.
SP4 and others have a legitimate right to enter their material on this site and say whatever they wish, no matter how it is expressed.
BE ADULT in your attitude, but if you must leave the playground to hack around on the school PC, then don`t bring your childish slang with you.
The English language is adequately objective to describe any situation or
event, without repeating over and over again juvenile colloquialism's.
NOW - let us all get on with discussing current affairs. This dogfight between certain people is taking up valuable space and destroys the very purpose of this facility.
YOU SAY: 'SP4 and others have a legitimate right to enter their material on this site and say whatever they wish, no matter how it is expressed.'
Reality check: NOT when it contains obscene language, racism or personal attacks.
They aint no such thing as innocent bystander.
'If you do not like a poster for a specific reason - or the writer - all you have to do is compile a reply, possibly constructive.'
Racist!
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GordyOct 21st, 2008 - 16:40:37
The McCain Palin camp are still spewing the same old crap that most of us could now repeat word for word. Funny how on one hand barracuda barbie
said she was against robocalls, then on the other hand she is sending them out fast and furious with the same old 'terrorist' tactics. Also sounds like she is not on the same page on yet another issue as McCain when it comes to state or federal rulings on abortion. Maybe she'll get to be too much of a maverick for old McCain! She'll 'maverick' her own way on the issues regardless of what he thinks.
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