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Washington - Republican presidential candidate John McCain met with economic and business leaders on Monday, while Democrat Barack Obama was to address voters with remarks he dubbed his 'closing argument' as the campaigns made their final pushes ahead of next week's elections.
The faltering US economy remained the key issue of the race with McCain arguing that voters can trust him to handle the crisis. Both were in Ohio, one of a select few hotly contested states that will decide the outcome of the election.
'I have been through tough times like this before and the American people can trust me - based on my record and results - to take strong action to end this crisis, restore jobs and bring security to Americans,' he said in Cleveland, Ohio. 'I will never be the one who sits on the sidelines waiting for things to get better.'
He stressed his commitment to tax cuts as a means to encourage economic growth and his plans to fix the ailing housing market.
Obama at a rally in Canton, Ohio later Monday was to denounce McCain's policies as a continuation of the failed policies of President George W Bush.
'The last thing we can afford is four more years of the tired, old theory that says we should give more to billionaires and big corporations and hope that prosperity trickles down to everyone else,' he said in prepared remarks released ahead of the speech. 'The last thing we can afford is four more years where no one in Washington is watching anyone on Wall Street because politicians and lobbyists killed common-sense regulations.'
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MSM Witholds Video of Obama Toasting Former PLO Operative at Jew Bashing Dinner
Barack Obama funnelled thousands of dollars of cash to Rashidi’s anti-Israel Foundation through his work on the Woods Fund.
In 2000, Rashid Khalidi, a former PLO operative who justified Palestinian terrorism as contributing to “political enlightenment,” threw a fundraiser for his friend Barack Obama.
Now that you have the background of this radical, here are some summary points of Gateway Pundit’s report on the media willfully withholding video evidence of Obama praising him while attending a Jew bash.
LA Times writer Peter Wallsten wrote about Barack Obama’s close association with former Palestinian operative Rashid Khalidi back in April.
“During the dinner a young Palestinian American recited a poem accusing the Israeli government of terrorism in its treatment of Palestinians and sharply criticizing U.S. support of Israel. If Palestinians cannot secure their own land, she said, “then you will never see a day of peace.”
One speaker likened “Zionist settlers on the West Bank” to Osama bin Laden”
….His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been “consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases… It’s for that reason that I’m hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation — a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid’s dinner table,” but around “this entire world.”
…The event was videotaped, and a copy of the tape was obtained by The Times.
Jim Hoft (Gateway Pundit) talked to Peter Wallsten from the Los Angeles Times about the article on Obama and Khalidi on Wednesday.
I asked him if he was planning on releasing this video of Obama toasting the radical Khalidi at this Jew-bash. He told me he was not releasing the video. He also would not comment on his source for the video. Wallston also said he did not know if Khalidi’s good friend Bill Ayers was at the event or not.
So, the LA Times has video of Obama attending a Jew bash and toasting a radical former PLO operative, and they are not sharing it with the public. I think we all know they would immediately release the tape if it were Sarah Palin making the toast.
Update: William Ayers was at the Jew bash too!
In Chicago, the Khalidis founded the Arab American Action Network, and Mona Khalidi served as its president. A big farewell dinner was held in their honor by AAAN with a commemorative book filled with testimonials from their friends and political allies. These included the left wing anti-war group Not In My Name, the Electronic Intifada, and the ex-Weatherman domestic terrorists Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers. (There were also testimonials from then-state Senator Barack Obama and the mayor of Chicago.)
What a rotten, lousy choice we have been given, nevertheless ONE of them will become President even if only a few votes are cast out of 240 million. 140 million of which will not vote and about 50 million will vote for each candidate. The few votes ahead of the other will decide !
A President is appointed with only around 1-2 million votes out of 240 million ! AND THAT IS DEMOCRACY ?
SO - is it to be the Black Panther with all the energy, versatility, speed, agility and intelligence a Panther has ?
OR - is it to be a Tortoise with all the sluggish ambling, stumbling, bumbling brainless plodding around that a Tortoise has ?
THE COICE IS YOURS - GO FOR IT.
The Drudge Report this morning led off with a link to audio of Barack Obama on WBEZ, a Chicago public radio station. And this time, Barack Obama was not eight years old when the bomb went off.
Speaking on a call-in radio show in 2001, you can hear Senator Obama say things that should profoundly shock any American — or at least those who have not taken the time to dig deeply enough into this man’s beliefs and affiliations.
Barack Obama, in 2001:
''You know, if you look at the victories and failures of the civil-rights movement, and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to vest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples. So that I would now have the right to vote, I would now be able to sit at a lunch counter and order and as long as I could pay for it, I’d be okay, but the Supreme Court never entered into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society.
'' And uh, to that extent, as radical as I think people tried to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution — at least as it’s been interpreted, and Warren Court interpreted it in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties: [It] says what the states can’t do to you, says what the federal government can’t do to you, but it doesn’t say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf.
''And that hasn’t shifted, and one of the, I think, the tragedies of the civil-rights movement was because the civil-rights movement became so court-focused, uh, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change. And in some ways we still suffer from that.
A caller then helpfully asks: “The gentleman made the point that the Warren Court wasn’t terribly radical. My question is (with economic changes)… my question is, is it too late for that kind of reparative work, economically, and is that the appropriate place for reparative economic work to change place?”
Obama replies:
''You know, I’m not optimistic about bringing about major redistributive change through the courts. The institution just isn’t structured that way. [snip] You start getting into all sorts of separation of powers issues, you know, in terms of the court monitoring or engaging in a process that essentially is administrative and takes a lot of time. You know, the court is just not very good at it, and politically, it’s just very hard to legitimize opinions from the court in that regard.
'' So I think that, although you can craft theoretical justifications for it, legally, you know, I think any three of us sitting here could come up with a rationale for bringing about economic change through the courts.”
There is nothing vague or ambiguous about this. Nothing.
From the top: “…The Supreme Court never entered into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society. And uh, to that extent, as radical as I think people tried to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical.”
If the second highlighted phrase had been there without the first, Obama’s defenders would have bent over backwards trying to spin the meaning of “political and economic justice.” We all know what political and economic justice means, because Barack Obama has already made it crystal clear a second earlier: It means redistribution of wealth. Not the creation of wealth and certainly not the creation of opportunity, but simply taking money from the successful and hard-working and distributing it to those whom the government decides “deserve” it.
This redistribution of wealth, he states, “essentially is administrative and takes a lot of time.” It is an administrative task. Not suitable for the courts. More suitable for the chief executive.
Now that’s just garden-variety socialism, which apparently is not a big deal to may voters. So I would appeal to any American who claims to love the Constitution and to revere the Founding Fathers… I will not only appeal to you, I will beg you, as one American citizen to another, to consider this next statement with as much care as you can possibly bring to bear: “And uh, to that extent, as radical as I think people tried to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution — at least as it’s been interpreted, and [the] Warren Court interpreted it in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties: [it] says what the states can’t do to you, says what the federal government can’t do to you, but it doesn’t say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf.
The United States of America — five percent of the world’s population — leads the world economically, militarily, scientifically, and culturally — and by a spectacular margin. Any one of these achievements, taken alone, would be cause for enormous pride. To dominate as we do in all four arenas has no historical precedent. That we have achieved so much in so many areas is due — due entirely — to the structure of our society as outlined in the Constitution of the United States.
The entire purpose of the Constitution was to limit government powers over the people. That limitation of powers is what has unlocked in America the vast human potential available in any population.
Barack Obama sees that limiting of government not as a lynchpin but rather as a fatal flaw: “…One of the, I think, the tragedies of the Civil Rights movement was because the Civil Rights movement became so court-focused, uh, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change. And in some ways we still suffer from that.”
There is no room for wiggle or misunderstanding here. This is not edited copy. There is nothing out of context; for the entire thing is context — the context of what Barack Obama believes. You and I do not have to guess at what he believes or try to interpret what he believes. He says what he believes.
We have, in our storied history, elected Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives and moderates. We have fought, and will continue to fight, pitched battles about how best to govern this nation. But we have never, ever in our 232-year history, elected a president who so completely and openly opposed the idea of limited government, the absolute cornerstone of makes the United States of America unique and exceptional.
If this does not frighten you — regardless of your political affiliation — then you deserve what this man will deliver with both houses of Congress, a filibuster-proof Senate, and, to quote Senator Obama again, “a righteous wind at our backs.”
...I happen to know the person who found this audio. It is an individual person, with no more resources than a desire to know everything that he or she can about who might be the next president of the United States and the most powerful man in the world.
I know that this person does not have teams of highly paid professionals, does not work out of a corner office in a skyscraper in New York, does not have access to all of the subtle and hidden conduits of information … who possesses no network television stations, owns no satellite time, does not receive billions in advertising dollars, and has a staff of exactly one.
I do not blame Barack Obama for believing in wealth distribution. That’s his right as an American. I do blame him for lying about what he believes. But his entire life has been applying for the next job at the expense of the current one. He’s at the end of the line now.
I do, however, blame the press for allowing an individual citizen to do the work that they employ standing armies of so-called professionals for. I know they are capable of this kind of investigative journalism: It only took them a day or two to damage Sarah Palin with wild accusations about her baby’s paternity and less time than that to destroy a man who happened to be playing ball when the Messiah decided to roll up looking for a few more votes on the way to the inevitable coronation.
We no longer have an independent, fair, investigative press. That is abundantly clear to everyone — even the press. It is just another of the facts that they refuse to report, because it does not suit them.
Remember this, America: The press did not break this story. A single citizen, on the Internet did.
There is a special hell for you “journalists” out there, a hell made specifically for you narcissists and elitists who think you have the right to determine which information is passed on to the electorate and which is not. ...irrelevance, obscurity, scorn; You’ve earned it.
'...I happen to know the person who found this audio.'
I suppose you happen to know the Tooth Fairy as well.
Correct. The mainstream media has totally thrown in the towel on objectivity. They softball Obama and act as their gestapo in search of a conservative who breaks a fingernail.
Liberals are so afraid of a single idea, they boil a plummer from Cleveland in oil, or crucify a house wife from Alaska, even though she hits the nail right on the head. The press wants this Obama, no matter what, and does not care anymore about feigning journalisitc integrity, and has not cared in three decades.
Hi there voters,
I hope that it is not the case that your wealth is not spread around to those persons who are gifted at collecting welfare every month and choosing to avoid real work at any cost. My meager $35,000 a year is considered just a tiny bit over the median!! I can not even keep up with ideal maintenance on my 13 year old station wagon these days. Personally, I would rather not have 'my (little) wealth spread around' to fellow citizens in my own county so that every April, I won't have to choose between maintaining my car or putting a typical months worth of savings away so that I can stop working when I reach 68 years of age in another 7 years. Is this more than I am entitled to?? (P.S. I always pay the IRS every April)
Vote with your head, not over it!
Ah...... You gotta love these people in their 'Tin-Foil-Hats'
They communicate telepathically with their dear leader Sarah.....
You'll just have to look at' Roger&me' from Michael Moore to understand that times are tough for the average Joe in the rust belt.Now the above writer frpù the John McCain is pretending that the victims of the crisis are to blame.They are too lazy to work.Reality is different :there are very few jobs available,at very low wages,many people have to combine two jobs to get around.
The bottom 50 percent of the US population only owe 2,5 percent of all assets,the top 1 percent owes 38 percent.
the McCain poster above blames the victims of capitalism and accuses them of taking handouts.
You could all do better with a little bit more of social justice .Unless you want the corporate tycoons to continue sodomizing you....
You'll appreciate the lies of the GOP even more if you google this:
MSM Witholds Video of Obama
Then you 'll see that this smear campaign is waged everywhere access to the internet allows them to post these lies.You'll never find anything else even remotely suggesting it could be true or could be based on anyrhing at all.
Just another dirty trick from the GOP and McxCain.Just google it.
These kind of tactics would mean the end of any candidate using it in any other country in the world.It is contrary to the spirit of democracy or even simple decent behaviour.The fact that McCain condones these tactics should be enough to label him as a dirty politician.
By the way ,FOX withholds a video of McCain dancing the french can can with Stalin and Napoleon .Unfortunately they don't want to show it....now the absurd logics used by the GOP just proved two things 1 FOX is unreliable 2 MCCain is a pervert ...see the picture of smear ?
'(P.S. I always pay the IRS every April)'
Paying taxes IS spreading the wealth around. That is one socialist program that the Repubs love. It allows them to pork barrel their constituencies and themselves. They are the biggest pigs in the public trough.
Thanks Tonny of Belgium for the response----Actually, the wages given to Auto workers in the late 60's and 70's were so inflated compared to the average (human)service workers that they were really considered then as almost in a higher eco-status than we. Who says that those Union level wages were a smart way to go????? Postal workers got 14 dollars an hour when I was given 8!! Whose job was more valuable to society Tonny, theirs or mine??? Human service or delivering mail???
I'm still employed, Flint Michigan (Union-led) are now gone....woops
could this have been related to inflationary wages ill-designed???? Maybe so.....Can't outsource human compassion (and English speaking caregivers)to foreigners cause we Americans have plenty more of that right here at home.
Wages will climb again soon now that Corporate Pigs are now fully ID'd and (some) are out on the street where they belong. (again, whose job is more valuable to society Tonny?)
Obam has a 7 year old radio interview advocating wealth redistribution!
A 7-year-old radio interview in which Barack Obama discussed the failure of the Supreme Court to rule on redistributing wealth in its civil rights rulings has given fresh ammunition to critics who say the Democratic presidential candidate has a socialist agenda.
The interview -- conducted by Chicago Public Radio in 2001, while Obama was an Illinois state senator and a law professor at the University of Chicago -- delves into whether the civil rights movement should have gone further than it did, so that when 'dispossessed peoples' appealed to the high court on the right to sit at the lunch counter, they should have also appealed for the right to have someone else pay for the meal.
In the interview, Obama said the civil rights movement was victorious in some regards, but failed to create a 'redistributive change' in its appeals to the Supreme Court, led at the time by Chief Justice Earl Warren. He suggested that such change should occur at the state legislature level, since the courts did not interpret the U.S. Constitution to permit such change.
'You'll just have to look at' Roger&me' from Michael Moore to understand that times are tough for the average Joe in the rust belt'
You are such an idiot.
'Reality is different :there are very few jobs available,'
There will be less if the government taxes the job creaters to the point where they cannot create jobs.
'The bottom 50 percent of the US population only owe 2,5 percent of all assets,the top 1 percent owes 38 percent.'
According to Michael Moore.
'the McCain poster above blames the victims of capitalism and accuses them of taking handouts.'
'The victims of capitalism'... Did you get that?
'You could all do better with a little bit more of social justice'
Socialism is not justice.
' .Unless you want the corporate tycoons to continue sodomizing you....'
The only one doing the sodomy the government. No need to give them viagra.
'SP4: The smoking gun!Oct 27th, 2008 - 19:25:29
Obam has a 7 year old radio interview advocating wealth redistribution!'
The link:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck
Tell us, precisely, what have you done for your country?
'since the courts did not interpret the U.S. Constitution to permit such change.'
So the constitution is a flawed document. It is true that the founding fathers could not see all future possibilities. The country was founded on revolution and ever since then it has been stuck in the bog. The US has not undergone a continuing revolution as any society must do, IF it is to survive. The US is the first modern country to be founded on revolution and all it has done ever since is suppress other people's revolutions and developement, as well as it's own evolution. As a result, it is a dying beast.
Well said. The Repubs are stuck in the past. They want a return to the 'good old days.' The good old days are dead and gone. Time marches on. Everything changes(except a Republican). Rather than look to the past and being stuck in the past, we should be looking to the future and making more good old days. It takes bravery to look toward the unknown future, but the possibilities are endless. So, do you want to be a scared, frightened, head in the sand butt in the air Repub? Or do you want to make tomorrow?
'Tell us, precisely, what have you done for your country?'
Among other things, I worked to elect John McCain.
Please note, what you really did was lie, cheat and steal McCain into a defeat, and help elect a veto proof congress. C-ya!
Wrong nom-de-web, turkey. But it is an appropriate question to that idiot. I think that if it had been from RECON, he would have signed it. After all, anybody with the Cojones to take on and beat down that Smiley D a-hole would continue to sign his own posts.
'So the constitution is a flawed document.'
Your stupidity is incredible.
The US has not undergone a continuing revolution as any society must do, IF it is to survive.
Incredibly stupid.
“The US is the first modern country to be founded on revolution and all it has done ever since is suppress other people's revolutions”
Bull.
“and developement,[sic]”
We done more for human development then any other country in human history.
The US constitution is one of the most incredible documents produced by some of the most brilliant people who ever lived. Barack Obama is certainly not the one to try to step in their shoes and you are just a moron.
You want a revolution? Revolt. (You don't have the guts or a compelling message but don't let that stop you.) As someone who believes in the constitution I have taken advantage of the 2nd amendment. I am well enough armed and there are enough of us who feel the same way to take care of our Constitution. It would be a happy task.
'Please note, what you really did was lie, cheat and steal McCain into a defeat, '
Where have I lied, cheated or stole?
My name isn't Obama....
It's from your childhood, written by a great American poet. It is part of the American social fabric.
Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.
Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'.
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.
Hi, Smiley D. How are you today? Over the beating you took yesterday? Do you think you have ANY credibility at all after that sh*t kicking you took?
Go away, child. Go play with the toys in your cat's litter box. There's some real tasty treats in there. They look just like little chocolate bars.
I repeat RECON's question for you, just in case you've forgotten. 'Precisely what have you done for your country?'
take it easy one sp4 as he knoweth not if his anus is drilled or punched..
'written by a great American poet. '
Because someone told you so, you tasteless moron.
' It is part of the American social fabric.'
So is this, written by a not so great poet:
the vandals - complain
Some people must have.
Some people have not.
But they'll complain and complain and complain and complain and complain.
Some people will work.
Some simply will not.
But they'll complain and complain and complain and complain and complain.
Like this:
It's society's fault I don't have a job.
It's society's fault I am a slob.
I have potential no one can see.
Give me welfare. Let me be me!
Hey, Bud, you're livin' in the Land of the Free.
No one's gonna hand you opportunity!
Some people must have.
Some never will.
But they'll complain and complain and complain and complain and complain.
I don't have a house. I don't have a car.
I spend all my money getting' drunk in a bar.
I wanna be rich. I don't have a brain.
Just give me a handout while I complain.
Or this: I wanna stay in bed and watch TV.
Go out weekends in a limousine
And dance all night takin' lots of drugs
And wake up when I wanna.
Hey, Bud, you're livin' in the Land of the Free.
No one's gonna hand you opportunity!
Some people will learn.
Some never do.
But they'll complain and complain and complain and complain and complain.
Yeah, they'll complain and complain and complain and complain and complain.
'I am well enough armed and there are enough of us who feel the same way to take care of our Constitution. It would be a happy task.'
Ah, the last refuge of the uneducated. Guns, not brains, not words. No one feels threatened by your testosterone overload. Your words merely show us what a total loser you are. The gun retort proves that you are out of words and are just shooting 'bullsh*t bullets.' Let 'er rip, we love a good laugh.
A plot to assassinate Obama and other people of color has been foiled by Federal Agents. This is scarey, folks. These weren't just threats. This was a full blown attempt. I wonder if it was Smiley D and his friends.
'Ah, the last refuge of the uneducated.'
If I am so uneducated why is it you can't formulate an intelligent counterargument to anything I ave ever written?
'Guns, not brains, not words. '
I have plenty of all of the above and in this case I know I can speak for MANY when we say that we take the defense of the constitution seriously.
Guns, not brains, not words. '
I have plenty of all of the above and in this case I know I can speak for MANY when we say that we take the defense of the constitution seriously.
Yup, you have plenty of 'not brains' and plenty of 'not words.' All you have is keyboard guns, shooting blanks, to wit: bullsh*t.
'Yup, you have plenty of 'not brains' and plenty of 'not words.''
So that is your rebuttal, writing 'not' like Wayne and Garth.
You prove my point again, idiot.
The only question is: Who gets to divide up that wonderful 700 billion payoff to con artists and make plenty of welfare pandering business men who will suck up to the new president.
McCain or Obama?
The stakes are high and each side must fight for the right to cronyism.
Did I see 4 pages of comments on this item ?
Well - they are gone !
'shut up you moron.'
Ah, the most intelligent thing that Smiley D can come up with. Like I said, no brains, no words, just bullsh*t. Hey, Smiley D, 'Precisely what have you done....?'
The RECON`S, NAMBO`s and other brain dead morons just KEEP on and on and on asking this question.
I don`t think they can say anything else.
WELL you patriotic turd-balls, some people could not give a shit what YOU did for YOUR country and have no regrets for doing sod all themselves.
It is UP TO THE POLITITIANS AND GOVERNMENT to DO SOMETHING FOR US !
All THEY do is shag everything up to make OUR lives so bloody miserable, plus sending us to get killed or crippled in some stupid war that we should not be fighting.
So, all you simple military minded turnip heads who would lay down your useless life for this damned place, STOP ASKING OTHERS SILLY QUESTIONS.
What have I done for my country, what do I intend doing for my country ?
BUGGER ALL IF I CAN HELP IT. Screw the nuts off them whenever and wherever I can - just like they do me and tens of millions like me.
NOW - SHUT UP. Play your Sgt.Bilko`s somewhere else. !
OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST:
This is an Obama interview on NPR, American public radio:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck
It’s Barack Obama musing about how best to redistribute wealth in America in a Chicago Public Radio interview in 2001.
Not whether, but how: Through the courts or through legislation?
A caller asks The One to explain how he would do “reparative economic work.” Obama gives the legislative route two thumbs up as his preferred method of “breaking free of the constraints” placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution and then burbles about cobbling together the “actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change.”
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck
''''If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court. I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed people, so that now I would have the right to vote. I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order as long as I could pay for it I’d be o.k. But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can’t do to you. Says what the Federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf, and that hasn’t shifted and one of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was, um, because the civil rights movement became so court focused I think there was a tendancy to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change. In some ways we still suffer from that.'''
In Obama’s America, we’ll finally be able to break free of the “constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution” — and in so doing, achieve “social justice” through “redistributive change.”
I understand your frustration. A wee bit of background, if you care to read. President Kennedy said: ' Ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what can you do for your country.' Or words to that effect. In Britain, unless things have changed, It's: 'For God, King (Queen) and Country,' n'est ce pas? There are more ways other than military to serve your country.
So, what we have here is some little dweeb, who goes around attacking people, not their arguments, but the people. What somebody did was call him on it. And other people are continuing to call him on it. I agree whole heartedly with that. And I hope that the counter-attack on said moron continues until he learns how to hold a civilised discourse. It is painfully obvious that the offending person has done nothing for himself, his country or the world at large. In short, he's a pissant.
The solution? If you see it, don't read it. It's nothing to get hung about.
And the pages are back. It is some technoglitch of some sort, brought on by the weight of all the republican bullsh*t.
Since McCain's tax cut applies to corporate taxes, it's possible Exxon will hve a lower tax rate than a gas station owner who owns his business as an LLC. You will definitely pay lower taxes under Obama regardless of the baloney being tossed around by McCain and his sidekick.
'Since McCain's tax cut applies to corporate taxes, it's possible Exxon will hve a lower tax rate than a gas station owner who owns his business as an LLC.'
No. Limited liability companies are taxed at the same rate federally. (State is different)
' You will definitely pay lower taxes under Obama regardless of the baloney being tossed around by McCain and his sidekick.'
That is simply not true. It is very, very false.
1.) Well done fighting men and women of the U.S. Military (another murdering bedouin is dead inside Syria today,) Godspeed and soon be home with your families who are safer today because of your courage and intelligence.
2.) No Mr. Obama, even with Reid, Pelosi and you trying to run my great country, we will never allow you to usurp our written laws and our constitution to turn the labors of our WORKING Americans in to free goodies for those Americans who choose to sit on their asses and 'play democracy' instead of choosing to work at it.
3.) No American should be afraid of having a woman in a place of power here. Where would any of you be without the strength and courage of the primary women in your lives?
You pathetic pea-brain-dead moron.
The graveyards are FULL of people like YOU who 'did their duty for their country'. Countless millions of them, mostly very young.
I don`t see miles and miles of small white headstones with names of leaders and politicians on them, who 'did their duty'.
When Governments consider their people first, THEN we can consider doing something for our country. Until that day comes, bugger the country.
Take what you can and give sod all back. Do unto them, what they do to you.
The greatest American hero since Davy Crockett is a black man - his name is Muhammad Ali. HE had more guts than all the US military and Government added together. HE had the guts to tell them all that he was not going to kill people he had no argument with just for kicks. AND he stood his ground AND he won in the end. He should have got the Congressional Medal of Honor and a place reserved in Arlington.
If more Americans had the same guts as Ali, there would not be the many 100,000`s of grieving families we now have in the country.
Don`t you dare quote Britain in your wonderland of sacrificial devotion.
'For God, Queen and Country' ! What utter clap-trap. Queen Victoria very fine man - Rule Britannia, Land of Hope and Glory and all that puke.
You are an absolute nutcase ! The British are the most persecuted race in the entire civilised world. A 'slave' society. Taxed to death, pillaged and bloody well raped dry. They have been for centuries.
As for GOD - he`s done sod all for anybody, look around you at the human agony and suffering in it`s multi-millions. GOD is a damned disgraceful myth.
As for QUEEN - she`s done sod all ever since she put her bum on the throne in 1953. Just sat by and watched various Governments utterly destroy the British nation. Something no foreign power has ever done since William the Conqueror. There is no 'Britain' now, it is just a mongrel hotch-potch society and dumping ground for every lump of foreign shit possible.
Constantly open doors and they all come in like a steam of shit into a sewage farm.
As for COUNTRY - THAT went out the door in the 50`s. There is NO country - just a pile of human flotsam from just about everywhere, blacks, browns, asylum seekers from every corner of planet earth, refugees, illegal immigrants - a whole mountain of human crap and scum.
AND all this parasitic shit get £ billions of benefits handed out in money, health, houses and every damned facility possible - ALL IN PRIORITY ABOVE THE INDIGENOUS BRITISH PEOPLE.
So, my dead-brained moron, don`t preach to real people about text book loyalty like Alice-in-Wonderland. THAT is a Sunday morning church luxury or a Hollywood script writers mental hallucination.
We will be paying higher taxes under McCain plus his policy for health insurance will be a disaster. It has been reported that McCain lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat. Everything that he's reported about his 'rescue' hasn't been the total truth, and it has been stated that he was always trying to measure up to his father and grandfather. He is too erratic in his thinking to be a good president, and Palin hanging around his neck is a double whammy.
Your 'facts' are catagorical fiction.
But we aren't going to have to worry about it anyway. McCain and Palin will soon be left with lots of time on their hands. Palin can go home and plan her daughter's wedding and take back up with her moose killing skills. McCain can go off and relax in one of his 9 houses if he can remember where they are.
'Not wrong,'
Go here and educate yourself:
www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/senator_obamas_four_tax_increa.html
Facts, figures, none of which will make a dent I am sure but none the less you are wrong. Provably, absolutely wrong.
'But we aren't going to have to worry about it anyway'
Oh yes you will. You will worry about what you are going to do for a living.
The cost of boxcutters used to hijack four jet airplanes- $9.99
The cost of digging a giant hole in Iraq as a response-$4,000,000,000,000++
The cost of letting osama bin laden flee to Pakistan- Priceless
You're suffering from a major case of brainwashing.
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Obama the Marxist:Oct 27th, 2008 - 15:59:09
'In final week, candidates push economic policies'
Yes, McCain has been stating he wont tax small business to the point where they can't create jobs, Obama wants to soak them. McCain has been saying he wont tax cooperations to the point where they move offshore, Obama wants to soak them. McCain has been sayinghhe wants to drill in the USA and keep our profits here, Obama wants to soak American energy companies (who will just pass the cost on to the consumers) and keep shipping our money overseas.
Why does Obama want to do this? Because he is a socialist who believes that the USA is inherently unfair because our constitution stands in the way of state run social engineering and he doesn't feel the need to be bound by such trivial constraints as the words of our founding fathers.
Here is Obama on NPR stating just that:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck
''If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court. I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed people, so that now I would have the right to vote. I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order as long as I could pay for it I’d be o.k. But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can’t do to you. Says what the Federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf, and that hasn’t shifted and one of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was, um, because the civil rights movement became so court focused I think there was a tendancy to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change. In some ways we still suffer from that.'''
In Obama’s America, we’ll finally be able to break free of the “constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution” — and in so doing, achieve “social justice” through “redistributive change.”
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