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Obama orders closure of Guantanamo prison camp (1st Lead)
Jan 22, 2009, 15:48 GMT
U.S. President Barack Obama holds a pen prior to signing the first of four executive orders to close the Guantanamo Bay Detention facility, on his desk in the Oval Office at the White House in Washington, DC, USA on 22 January 2009. Vice President Joseph Biden and a group of retired military officers attended the ceremony. EPA/MATTHEW CAVANAUGH
Washington - US President Barack Obama signed an executive order on Thursday to close the controversial prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba within a year.
The order sets into motion a review of the cases of all the remaining 245 detainees at the facility and an evaluation of ways to relocate them. That could involve repatriating them to their home nations or to a third country.
Obama also signed an order banning inhumane treatment of detainees and mandating that any interrogations of terrorism suspects in US custody come under the compliance of the US Army's Field Manual. Detainees would also be subject to rules outlined in international treaties such as the Geneva Conventions.
Obama's action marks a swift reversal of former president George W Bush's controversial policies in the war on terrorism.
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let sp4 decide what is wrong and what is right and what should be done and what should not be done
he is a Republican and you know what that means i hope...
So it goes in the U.S. One day torture is in, due process and speedy trial is out. The next day torture is out, due process is in and speedy trial is still out. Completely arbitrary. One step forward and one step backward. Today we see progress in the eyes of 1/2 the U.S. population, and a setback in the eyes of the other 1/2 of the U.S. population. Justice is arbitrary.
..from releasing the enemy will be on Obama's head.
All the deaths from imagining enemies hiding under every bed will be on SP4's head
Bush family has close working relationship with Bin Ladens, Osama's brother was at the ranch of expresident Bush on 11th of Sept. 2001. So any thing to negate those mafia type brothers and their CIA father, who according to his sons is a ''NUT'', is NO, NO!
THEY WILL HAVE HIM PAY!!
..this all ends only one way. You cannot declare peace, only war.
Tick Tock...
Tick tock tick tock, the cuckoo in SP4’s mind!
SP and Lance have to be the most negative people in the U.S. - that is if Lance is even in the U.S. because of the constant criticism of anything American!!
'...closing gitmo will make america safer' ..right out of the white house press secretary's mouth.
'Lance have to be the most negative people in the U.S'
I would never lockup a person without due process, which means I think: 'people are innocent until proven guilty'
Which is a very positive outlook on things. Unlike Bush, who thinks: 'people are guilty as hell, period'.
The typical U.S. citizen supports plenty of negativity in the United States. For example:
Obama thinks the typical U.S. redneck citizen can't make it on their own and needs welfare cash in the disguise of 'economic stimulus' to be sent directly to them. Whereas I think the redneck can make it on their own. They are resourceful enough and if forced by circumstances they can make the right decisions. But, if they are drowned in debt, welfare checks, underhanded deals and sympathetic hand holding then they will never make it. They will be sucking of the tits of government welfare for the rest of their lives.
Again: I have confidence in the redneck. Obama does not.
You think it's much different? Is It England or Canada? If so, you are in need of a real reality check. You are no better. You only think you are. You are probably a serious loser in reality.
'You are probably a serious loser in reality.'
As you hardly know anything about me, your comments are pointless and meaningless.
However, your comments do reflect a very significant psyche of the typical U.S. citizen:
If someone points out your weakness then do not improve yourself. Rather deny it, kill them or tell them they are a sinner too, or some such thing. And collect your welfare check disguised as a 'economic stimulus' check.
The United States use to be full of leaders with focus that knew and liked what they did and got things done, such as exterminate the American Indian varmint, or burn a few niggers on Saturday night right before going to church the next day. Now, the United States is full of sniffling excuse makers.
One thing I'll say about the old United States: At least they weren't hypocrites.
'you hardly know anything about me,'
Whine, whine, snivel. Lance, sweety, we know plenty about you. For example, we know that you are a vegetarian. That means you eat nothing but veggies. Veggies eat fertilizer, such a cow dung. You are what you eat, Lance. You are a pile of sh*t. That is all that we need to know.
'For example, we know that you are a vegetarian. That means you eat nothing but veggies.'
That would be a vegan. I am a vegetarian and will eat animal products, such as milk and unfertilized eggs, that are guaranteed not to cause the death of an animal or the systematic life long torture of an animal. Primarily that means certified free range and organic.
And, I am proud of my explicit way of life. Unlike the typical U.S. citizen that will shove anything into their mouths, even when it kills them or comes from nefarious sources.
A Vegan is a being from Vegas. However, I haven't met a REAL Vegan. I'm not even sure that there are sentient beings there. Now that you have been educated, we can get back to the facts of the matter and away from your poor attempt at deflection.
Fact: Vegetables eat sh*t.
Fact: You eat vegetables.
Fact: You are what you eat.
Ergo, you are a full of sh*t vegetable.
Nothing you can say will ever alter that fact.
By the way, sh*t-head, cow milk is for calves. The human body does not have the enzymes to properly digest cow milk. For you to get proper nutrition from milk, you'd have to go back to your mommy. Do I hear her calling you for supper? To destroy that fact as well, the human body loses the enzyme to digest human milk at a very early age. Milk, plain and simple, is not good for you.
As for unfertilized eggs, well, what can I say. You're eating dead things, Mr, Out-To-Lunch. The basic fact of life is: In order to maintain Life, you MUST eat Life. So, Mr. Sh*t-pile, go out and kill an animal yourself, so that you see it doesn't suffer. See the light in it's eyes die. Slit it's throat to bleed it. Take your knife and open up the gut sack. Get that gore all over you. Slice out the liver and heart and dive in while it's still hot and fresh. Eat it raw. Eat well.
Don't vegetable scream when you boil them? What about the pain and suffering they go through when you unceremoniously yank them out of the ground, tearing their roots? How long does it take a carrot to die? Imagine the anguish that it goes through. Lance is a mass murderer of Flora. Lance commits crimes against vegetables. Karma will get you for all the harm you've done to all those innocent vegetables.
So using your logic 'Idiots Stick',
that would mean that all the deaths from Afghanistan and Iraq are on you and your administration's head due to the mismanagement of these wars? Just want to clarify?
Let's do lunch. Ill even meet you half way. Organically grown grain to make the Rye bread which will be the bookends for a mountain corned beef. Of course the mustard will be from organically grown mustard plants. The mustard seeds will then be squished to death between two rollers exerting 10,000 pounds of pressure. Their demise will be quick. How painless that is to the seeds, I'm not sure. But it is effective. How about a glass of wine?
I'm glad I'm not there to hear the grapes scream as they are unceremoniously yanked from from the vine. Then the crushing death they go through. Absolutely hideous. Throw in some yeast and sugar(organic, of course) and let it rot for a month or so. Voila - wine. Yup, let's do lunch, Lance. By the way, Lance, don't drink the water. Fish p*ss and sh*t and f*ck in it.
Yes.
Those deaths, by war, are on his head....and on Congress's head, on the American public's head. They were made by two branches of government, arrived at by law, and executed by the Consitution. They withstood legal challenge. They were to keep the republic and it's allies safe, not feed the citizenry into a suicide pact, no matter whether they succeeded or not.
Yobama, on the other hand, is soley responsible for any deaths from this fool's errand he is on. He actually had his press wag say 'we'll be safer for doing this' Tell me professor idiot, take some time away from your valuable pursuits and empty prose and do the calculus on that one, then get back to us all here and explain it to us. We're dying to hear.
I'm happy to help you with your homework, Professor idiot stick, but you need to do some of it on your own, too.
Ah,yes, more vomitus from Professor Drug Addict.
'I'm happy to help you with your homework, Professor idiot stick, but you need to do some of it on your own, too.'
The only reason you're happy is because you just smoked another crack rock. You help is not asked for, needed, or wanted. Go back and do some more of your own homework, EssPee - Smoke that crack, Snort that coke, Inject that Meth.
Hey Idiots Stick:
'Yes.'
Great to know you are accepting responsibility for the lost of 3500+ US Troops 25,000 wounded troops, over 200,000 dead Iraq citizens and uncountable wounded.
'Those deaths, by war, are on his head....and on Congress's head, on the American public's head. They were made by two branches of government, arrived at by law, and executed by the Consitution. They withstood legal challenge.
No those deaths are on the Idiots like you (Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity etc) that sold the war. 'Legal challenge' bulsh*t).
'They were to keep the republic and it's allies safe, not feed the citizenry into a suicide pact, no matter whether they succeeded or not.'
Plain and simple bullsh*t. Only in your idiotic dreams.
'Yobama, on the other hand, is soley responsible for any deaths from this fool's errand he is on. He actually had his press wag say 'we'll be safer for doing this' Tell me professor idiot, take some time away from your valuable pursuits and empty prose and do the calculus on that one, then get back to us all here and explain it to us. We're dying to hear.'
I could only hope you are 'dying' you are worse than a pimple on someone's as*. But the answer is so easy, even a 3rd grader could answer your stupid reasoning. It is what 53% of this country wants. Just because you are in the 47%, really makes it inconsequential what you think.
'I'm happy to help you with your homework, Professor idiot stick, but you need to do some of it on your own, too.'
You could not help anyone with their homework. Your stupidity has shown that you really need to go back to school and continue with the 6th grade. Your comments are so off base, they are easy to discount.
And again Idiots Stick, if you really want anyone to listen, learn to spell.
SP4, no one said ' ...releasing Gitmo detainees INTO THE USA' would make America safer.
No one said they're going 'to release them into the USA'.
They said that 'closing GTMO would make America safer' because it's used as a powerful recruitment tool by terrorists.
As usual SP4, you make stuff up ... missing what they actually said, you create your own lies ... then you get yourself all worked up over your own lies ... comedy, pure comedy.
Tell us SP4 ... Why do YOU wanna give the terrorists a powerful recruitment propaganda tool?
Why do you wanna help the terrorists, SP4?
Do you think we will defeat the terrorists by helping create more of them?
You are soooo friggin clueless ... no wonder you think Bush is a genius.
'excuuse mee Meesah Bin Laden...ah ama Meestah Hsu.....work fo a yankee we nota nahme heah...she wanta deiro fo you....'
osami:'....yees meester Hsu...wee hav heard of yooou.....a banker een theee eemploy of a poerfuul infidel woomahn...boow legged....meen....evil woman.....woork fooor Hussain Obama ...what eeess yoour propoosal meester hsu?'
Hsu:' Meesah Been Laaden...thee neewh presieedint, a rero soro brotha...eeess cloosing Geeetmoo.....nooo moore geetmo Mr Been Laaden...'
Osami: 'hoow ees thees mhy prooblem slopeheed...?'
Hsu:'oooh noo sir...eeet ess soro brotha C en C's prooblem...you see, eeeff thee eenfidels catch yoou, hee has noo place too keep you....heee esss screwed royahl excellency...unnastahn?'
Osami:' sooo...he ain't heeefy an he suuure ain't my broother, Hussain or noo...geet myh dreeft charlie chan?'
Hsu:'weill meester Been Laaden...he wooohd like to offeh deiro...'
Osami'lay it on me then skeeny...'
Hsu:'well....heet lahke you too die...'
Osami'aziz....geefe mee gun pleese..'
Hsu:'noooo...heah mee ooout....do not shoot....he oonly wants to fake death....then come out after heeee esss ooout of ooofice!...beeg monees fo you excellency...unnastahn?'
Osami:' yoou expct meee to belieefe thees mahn pay me to sit in cave....more sex with goots....aziz...gun...now'
Hsu:'noooo...juust fo while...you get out latah...unnastahn? beeeg dollahs too....afta we gone...noo moo missiro's up a ass you knoow...pave way boombs...speecial deeliffery?'
Osami:'hmmmm....nooo moore meeesles up ass.....deal...must have vacation....yacht weeeth Virgins or hoochies.....tired of goots...aziz...tired of hees ass too'
Hsu:'deiro then excellency....brifcases mahked 'hirrary' fo yoou....regula refiros fo excellecy...preesedintal pahdon fo mee, unnastahn?'
Osami:'what about hoochiees?'
Hsu:'no prob holmes....beeg mahn say hee yo neega...puuseee cavary ona way...get you a Beyonce'...Mahy Jahne giros...chaka Kahn...pahis Heetorn...'
Osami:'Peeeris Heetoln...an chaka Kahn.....Baraba waltahs too...'
Hsu:' noo probleeem ...on thee wayah praya, pahtee tahme...unnastahn?'
SP is so in love with his written word, and what a waste of time!
I can almost assure you that when someone sees what it is, they don't bother to read it. Obama is going down the right path on a lot of these
problem areas, and the U.S. will one day be in good standing with the world.
That was spot on!!!!
Keepy your idiot EUROPEAN expressions and opinions IN Europe ok?
This is an American problem with no help from you surrender monkeys and I cant wait for your muslims buddies to blow you up again.
Dont ask us for help as you cant even handle small duties for peacekeeping in the former Yugoslavia.
I hope the Germans kick your arses again while this time we will watch and laugh here in America.
Perhaps they can slap you back into shape from your current pathetic condition.
Where is the SS to clean up Europe from these idiot muslims?
How is closing that country club called Gitmo going to make America safer?
It is NOT a recruiting tool you numbnut.
If I remember correctly, the attacks on New York, Pennsylvania, attacks on the Pentagon, there was not 1 single muslim terrorist in prison at that time Mr. Genius.
How do you explain that fact?
Here is another fact to disect your alleged viewpoint.
Where were the muslim prisoners in Gitmo when the USS Cole was attacked, where were they when 2 US embassies were bombed in Africa?
Where were the muslim jihadists at Guantanamo when the US barracks were bombed in Saudi Arabia??
Gitmo HAS NOTHING to do with any recruiting for new muslim terrorists so stop fouling your skirt over these international gangsters who should be executed ON THE SPOT when caught.
Moron
Hungarian Crusader-1453
The US is being attacked for the reason that we are the most powerful, democratic, traditionally Christian, richest nation on earth that is the most resistant to the encroachment of islime on the world.
We are attacked because we will not bow to these 7th century barbarians who refuse to join the 21st century so I wish to see them thrown back across the oceans to their ancestral homelands....you can join them.
America may be injured on occasion, but we will not bow or be broken by the cult of death know as islam.
Former comment: I would never lockup a person without due process, which means I think: 'people are innocent until proven guilty'
In reality: A person is neither innocent nor guilty until proven innocent or guilty.
In addition: This principal is not in the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, or any other founding document of the United States. It was already an unwritten tenant of English Common Law. The phrase entered US law through a Supreme Court decision which reversed a lower court because the jury had not been instructed, 'The law presumes that persons charged with crime are innocent until they are proven by competent evidence to be guilty' in 1894.
How many of you out there presumed OJ was innocent?
Nevertheless: Due process is a fundamental right. The Fifth Amendment of the Constitution (ratified 1791) requires that the federal government not deprive any person of “life, liberty, or property without due process of law.” The same language is included in the Fourteenth Amendment (ratified 1868) as a constraint on the states.
The central aim of due process doctrine is to assure fair procedure when the government imposes a burden on an individual. I see nothing wrong with extending this doctrine to foreign enemies as it would simply make dealing with such enemies a fairer procedure for them as well. After all, mistakes are possible.
What Planet do you live on?
Theres a comprehensive encyclopedia of info here.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States
well worth a read, theres lots of info here that you want to see...
both for..and against.
sp4 is a sicko
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FinallyJan 22nd, 2009 - 16:50:37
a little sanity appears in the USA. This is nothing more than the first step in rehabilitating the country from Rogue Nation status to Failed State status.
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