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Obama warns of dire economic situation, demands bold, swift action
Jan 24, 2009, 15:43 GMT
US President Barack Obama (2nd L) is joined by US Vice President Joe Biden (L) on 22 January 2009 during a meeting in the Oval Office on the economy with Director of the Office of Management and Budget Peter Orszag, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and National Economic Director Lawrence Summers (R) at the White House, Washington.
Washington - In his first weekly address, US President Barack Obama Saturday called for fast action on his economic stimulus plan and warned that 'a bad situation could become dramatically worse ... if we do not act boldly and swiftly.'
Obama said he is hoping to get his 825-billion-dollar economic stimulus package through Congress 'in less than a month,' an expectation he drove home on Friday at his meeting with Republican and Democratic lawmakers at the White House.
Earlier this month, Obama said he has set a target of mid February for passage.
The weekly message, which is also being released in audio and video form on the White House website, was emailed to news organizations late Friday, an apparent successor to former president George W Bush's weekly radio address.
Bush's messages were always embargoed until 1500 GMT, but Obama's address was moved up to 1100 GMT, or 6 am local time. Until his inauguration on Tuesday, Obama had also been releasing a weekly radio address.
Obama, who has pledged to give priority to the devastating financial crisis and year-long recession, will be meeting with his economic advisors on Saturday at 1600 GMT. He is to receive daily economic briefings with the same detail and urgency as the traditional daily security briefings given the US president, his spokesman said this week.
Obama said his administration had begun 'in the midst of an unprecedented crisis that calls for unprecedented action.' He noted that the weekly unemployment filings were the highest in 26 years, and the unemployment rate could reach double digits 'if nothing is done.'
The legislation includes tax cuts and spending to create 3 to 4 million jobs and put money into infrastructure and clean energy development.
The bill has moved through House committees earlier this week, but mainly with Democratic support. Republicans, who are in the minority, want deeper tax cuts and believe the spending portion is higher than immediately needed.
The US economy shed 2.6 million jobs last year as the economy continues to tumble as the United States copes with the worst recession since the Great Depression of the 1930s.
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Have patience. It took years to get into this mess. It will take years to get out of it. In this day and age of wanting/demanding instant change/results, there is going to be a rude shock. Nothing of importance or serious consequence happens on demand.
I never get that feeling, writing a check...unless it's for a Corvette or something...
Yahoo!!!! More welfare for all. Line up for your free money, complements of your children.
'825-billion-dollar economic stimulus package '
That represents approximately $100/year interest payments for each of your children for their entire lives. Which brings the current total to about: $1800/year in interest payments for your children for their entire lives. That will be $1800/year worth of food that they can not purchase so that you can now buy your LCD flat screen T.V.s and your F-150 trucks and other trinkets.
Do you think it is worth it? Putting your children in bondage and servitude?
Do you have ANY idea how serious the current economic problems are? Will those problems go away all by themselves? When you get a toothache, do you see the dentist? A dental visit can be painful, but it beats a gum infection.
The ecobony has a systemic infection. Banks cannot raise capital from the usual sources. We depend on China for funding, and if China truly decides to spend on its own infrastructure (they are spending more than out entire TARP package), and slows down T-bill purchases, the U.S. Government itself can become short of funds.
Better we make the investments now (or have the surgery now, if you will), than leave in place an economy suffering from 'sepsis', which won't allow businesses to borrow, or consumers to fund their mortgages.
Only simpletons look for simple answers. The GOP is in effect a drug store stocking only aspirin (tax cuts, which won't spur job creation). After all, most sick people get a headache - and aspirin cures a headache. It will also cause gastric bleeding; but hell, we can fix that later.
The reaction of Bush/Paulsen was that of panicked amateurs, who saw the entire system collapsing and threw money at it with no accountability. Look at Freddie Mac asking for another $35 billion today; or the shareholders of Merrill furious about their takeover by B of A, who failed to comprehend how bad off Merrill actually was. By doing nothing, it becomes even worse.
Support your President, and let him run the country. It's why he was elected. You can moan about performance later; but after 4 whole days in office, let the man function.
What Obama SHOULD do is give the public a REAL idea of the seriousness, and scare the crap out of you.
'When you get a toothache, do you see the dentist?'
I use preventative medicine.
I have seen one dentist in the last 20 years for a teeth cleaning. And that dentist stated that he could not do anything because my teeth were already clean.
... But: He also tried to con me into getting teeth whitening treatments and ornamental plastic caps. I told him: NO, because I know that money is better served to help my children pay down their portion of the debt for the credit you so desperately seek.
I do realize that the typical U.S. citizen would have opted for the cosmetic service and would rather drink beer and soda and get cavities and need a dentist instead of acting sensibly.
But, yeah. Once your teeth rot out then you are shafted and deserve what you get.
'I use preventative medicine.'
I'd like to use preventative madicine too - use it on lance to prevent further mental anguish caused by the mere appearance of his name on this site.
Unfortunately, the SPCA would get on my case for euthanizing the mangy critter.
Perhaps I should have used appendicitis as a better metaphor - neglecting that infection kills you a whole lot quicker.
Perhaps, your dentist understood that teaching you about plaque below the gumline was a fool's errand, and decided to spend his time on those who actually realized that preventing problems is better than dealing with outcomes.
Lance's reply indicates someone who has no idea of what 'pro-active' is. That's what the GOP 2001-2006 provided - a laissez-fairs environment where the crooks got to set the policy. Lance, in this little play, would have the role of the ignorant taxpayer, who did not understand the meaning of the words 'bubble' and 'leverage'; yet still thinks that they're entitled to what they envision is their due; no matter the cost to the economy and nation.
The entire Congress is guilty in the matter of pumping up Fannie and Freddie, and selling the idea that people without financial means to carry a mortgage were still entitled to one.
www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/us/politics/25regulate.html?ref=us
Officials say they will make wide-ranging changes, including stricter federal rules for hedge funds, credit rating agencies and mortgage brokers, and greater oversight of the complex financial instruments that contributed to the economic crisis.
Officials said they want rules to eliminate conflicts of interest at credit rating agencies that gave top investment grades to the exotic and ultimately shaky financial instruments that have been a source of market turmoil. The core problem, they said, is that the agencies are paid by companies to help them structure financial instruments, which the agencies then grade.
“Until we deal with the compensation model, we’re not going to deal with the conflict of interest, and people are not going to have confidence that the ratings are worth relying on, worth the paper they’re printed on,” Mary L. Schapiro, who testified earlier this month before being confirmed by the Senate to head the Securities and Exchange Commission.
There is none.... Lance gives gum jobs to all~!!!
... yes, yes. I am sure that Congress and the President of the United States personally visited each and every one of you and forced you to sign the variable rate mortgage contracts on the dotted line. NOT.
... you will make any excuse you can. You signed on the dotted line because you are stupid and suckers, not because of some law made in D.C.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Sure, Congress the president and the CEOs of many or most corporations are fraud con artists, but that still is not an excuse for collecting welfare and signing contracts that shaft you.
Your signature is meaningless which means your words are meaningless.
You should have no problem whatsoever. All things are classified as animal, vegetable or mineral. Lance is not a mineral, rocks have more brains than him. Lance is a vegetarian and does not eat meat. You are what you eat, therefore Lance is a vegetable. The SPCA has no rules or regulations regarding vegetables. You may safely uproot him and cook the sucker. Slice, dice and saute. I can hardly wait for his next post. I bet he's 'steamed' up about something.
You got it all wrong!
This crisis in not because of credit problems, it’s actually far deeper!
First you got a system in which people have stopped being productive, stopped being educated and trained, stopped being cared for, the infrastructure itself of the whole country aging and decaying, the schools becoming gang lands, and the mass media playing the war drum 24/7, terrorizing and brainwashing the people in becoming bloodthirsty murderers in order for the ruling elite to use them as soldiers in there world domination adventures!
This whole country is a piece of shit, a waste land full of morons and brainwashed zombies who all that they can do is to get a gun and go and kill people.
That is very far from the time when people used to look up to educated people, now they look up to prostitutes, gays and all sorts of mass media freak shows intended only to brainwash them and turn them into soldiers for the Bush’s and Cheney’s of this world.
'Your signature is meaningless which means your words are meaningless.'
A total non-sequitur. Mr. Vegetable.
Do you know how to tell if lance was in the food stock?
The lipstick on the carrots, zuchini, and anything long and hard!!!!
Nice shot!
... listen to your arguments. Besides your silly lance bashing, your basic premise is this:
Wahha! I want free money, money I did not earn!! I don't care that it is a burden on my children. I want money!! wahha!! wahha!!
Is this what the United States has become? A nation that cries if it does not get one trillion dollars of more welfare on top of all the other welfare it has gotten?
Who are you people? Are you criminals or mentally ill? Or are you simply middle class people crying for free money? Never in my life did I think the great U.S. middle class would turn into pussies that would sell of their kid's future so they could get welfare.
'your silly lance bashing,'
Yes, we do bash the silly Lance. You gotta problem with that, rutabaga?
'your basic premise is this:'
Wrong again, granola bar.
That is your interpretation of our bashing of silly Lance.
'Who are you people?'
You'll never know, because we'll never meet, silly Lance,
'Never in my life did I think'
For once you are absolutely correct. Congratulations, silly Lance, you win the Nobel Prize for astute comments by a vegetable.
We have Corporate Criminals and NAFTA Traitors running loose on the streets of America, and all Democrat's can worry about, is prosecuting former members of the Bush administration. Congress is once again behind the curve! Republican's are not the enemy. A Corrupt Corporate America is the enemy! NAFTA is the enemy! Thieving Bankers are the enemy! Those American's who have plotted to ship away our jobs are the enemy!
If Congress wants to deal out some Justice then please find out where the Corporate Vermin have hidden the stolen loot from our pension funds. Find out where the quote 'Geniuses' who created this Global Economic Fiasco and NAFTA are hiding out. The American People didn't devise the NAFTA scheme and Ross Perot predicted this very thing would happen! I believe there is deep resentment and growing anger towards the architects of NAFTA and our failed economy. The American People didn't ship away the jobs. The American People didn't write up the failed trade deals. The American People didn't make all the billions from the scheme. The American People didn't sell out the blue collar worker. The American People didn't decide to turn America into an economic model driven by 70% consumption. The American People didn’t gut the middle class. If The American People took no part in the planning, implementation, and failure of the NAFTA scheme then why should we pay for it's collapse? What our arrogant corporate titans don't want to admit, is the Chinese have outwitted and outmanuvered them in the global trade game.
after reading your little tirade, I took some time to think about it. You are wrong about one thing, right off the bat. 'all Democrat's can worry about, is prosecuting former members of the Bush administration'
Exactly where did you get that piece of utter bullsh*t from?
Other than that about all that one can conclude from your list of malefactors is: we have met the enemy and he is us.
Brainstorming our way into a more prosperous future may be a better idea.
PS Comments should be succinct and not include personal attacks on other readers.
Today is Sunday the 25th and today President Obama stole another 2.5 billion dollars from your kid's future and has promised to steal even more money from your kid's future.
Here is a clock showing your kid's future ticking away:
www.brillig.com/debt_clock
Incase you want to see your kid's future evaporate in realtime, here is a java enabled one:
www.babylontoday.com/national_debt_clock.htm
In just a few seconds I looked at it, eight million dollars evaporated from your kid's future.
Shame on you.
... now it is over 10 million bucks and counting fast! Your legacy to your kids is debt. When your kids mention you after you die they will say: 'Daddy left me with 100,000 dollars of debt.' ... or maybe they will be credit-holic addicts too and not be aware of the gift you left them.
this is a site to stay away from.all it contains is crazy people saying nothing except putting each other down what a waste of space
'this is a site to stay away from.all it contains is crazy people saying nothing except putting each other down what a waste of space'
Excuse #45897.
No matter what you say or think, the debt keeps growing and your kid's future keeps diminishing.
The following is your children's destiny and future:
Here is the quick cliche version: Your children are going to be creamed by Obama's 'sub-prime loans'.
For those that can read more than Obama's cliches of hope (which are not many people), here is the not so quick version:
You voted for a president that borrows money for hope. Borrowing rates (T-bonds) are good now, historic lows, so borrowing is not painful. But, when those bonds become due borrowing interest rates will skyrocket and the U.S. interest payments will balloon and the U.S. will be in the same predicament that sub-prime borrows are in now. The U.S. will not be able to pay down their 'mortgage of their children's future' and hence the only other option will be to pay huge interest payments. Lenders get first rights to money (the feds will not default) which means that your children will get the scraps left over. The rich get richer and your children's welfare and the U.S. infrastructure will be second or third class. Your children will make tax payments to pay interest payments to the super wealthy, mostly in Asia.
Liberals have suddenly stopped talking about fiscal restraint?
Liberals do not really mention the word 'war' anymore?
Liberals are silent about Chuck Rangell's tax mess, and do not want him to resign his committee chair?
Have you ever given a thought to the fact that most could care less about 'your kids'? Live your life as you like and let everyone else live there's the way the want to and STFU.
'Have you ever given a thought to the fact that most could care less about 'your kids'?'
Yes, I know. Most U.S. citizens are greedy people that only care about getting the largest flat screen T.V. their credit cards can purchase and of course, they dream of the F-150 super truck but would get the F-250 turbo if their credit cards would let them.
The do not care about anyone else especially children yet born. In addition to depriving children yet born to money by saddling them with debt, the typical U.S. citizen also kills one million children yet born ever year.
A depraved society for sure.
Hey Idiots Stick,
'Liberals have suddenly stopped talking about fiscal restraint?'
Have you notices the economy is in the toilet due to your stupid 'trickle down' that did not trickle down. The only thing that will solve the process it to get everyone back to work as quick as possible and the only way to do that is to invest in the economy and get the cash moving. I can tell you did not take any economics class in the year you left school, the 6th grade.
'Liberals do not really mention the word 'war' anymore?'
God how can you be so stupid. That is all that is on the TV, the fact that the Republicant's took their eye off of Afghanistan and the Taliban has moved back into every region, and in Iraq the government has not stepped forward and taken back their country. Just another huge mess the Obama administration has to clean up.
'Liberals are silent about Chuck Rangell's tax mess, and do not want him to resign his committee chair?'
Sop what you idiot, it is time to fix the country and put aside petty crap like this. There is plenty of time to prosecute the Bush administration and Charley Rangel later. Maybe we can prosecute Bush, Cheney, Rumsfelt, Rice all in a felt swoop?
Why do you have to show everyone what a big Idiot you are Idiots Stick? Wrong on every point, must be nice to be old and stupid?
Please, you are worse than a Jehovah’s Witnesses.
'Yes, I know. Most U.S. citizens are greedy people that only care about getting the largest flat screen T.V. their credit cards can purchase and of course, they dream of the F-150 super truck but would get the F-250 turbo if their credit cards would let them.'
Yes they are, so what and shut up! This is typical of the conservative movement, they claim they do not want government in their lives, but continually want to tell people what to do. Again STFU.
'The do not care about anyone else especially children yet born. In addition to depriving children yet born to money by saddling them with debt, the typical U.S. citizen also kills one million children yet born ever year.'
Oh my God. Most do not care for anyone but themselves. That is life and your whining, bitching, moaning and gas bagging is not going to solve anything.
'A depraved society for sure.'
So what? Who cares?
'Yes they are, so what and shut up!'
I see. So the typical U.S. citizen is a self centered bastard that kills their own young and the ones they don't kill they enslave with debt.
Why do you want me to shut up? Isn't that one of your famous human rights? Freedom Of Speech? Or, is that right only useful when you want to use it as an excuse to mass kill muslims in order to bestow upon them your same freedoms? And once bestowed you tell them to shut up?
Doesn't make sense at all.
'I see. So the typical U.S. citizen is a self centered bastard that kills their own young and the ones they don't kill they enslave with debt.'
From a neo-con unable to think out of the box kind of guy, I guess you are correct. But what I meant by my response is that we don't care what YOU have to say about the situation. You are not a citizen of this country and have no say-so in what we do. Plus the majority of us believe that a woman's body is her responsibility, and none of your intrusive business.
'Why do you want me to shut up? Isn't that one of your famous human rights? Freedom Of Speech? Or, is that right only useful when you want to use it as an excuse to mass kill muslims in order to bestow upon them your same freedoms? And once bestowed you tell them to shut up?
Again that is one of OURS, but you are not one of us so you are of no consequence to us. The majority of us also believe that the killing of Muslims needs to stop and it will, but until they stop killing, they need to learn to be part of the solution and not part of the problem.
'Doesn't make sense at all.'
Maybe not to someone like you who is a glass half empty type of individual, but we need to fix our country after 8 years of total failure, then we can begin to care about what you have to say. Until then most of us (left and right) could care less about you and 'your kids'.
'Doesn't make sense at all.'
No, you sure don't. Your leaps of illogical false logic are absolutely incredible. Incredible in the sense that they and you are not credible. Go and prostelitize on some street corner, preferably in Tehran. Your holier-than-thou attitude on this site will do nothing to change anybody's point of view or attitude. All you will get here is sh*t and abuse, which is exactly what you've earned. But on the other hand, mabe that is exactly what you are seeking. You didn't get enough positive attention as a child, so any attention is welcomed by you. Whatever the case may be, there is one unalterable fact about you and your attitude and behaviors - you are a f*cking head case.
'you are a f*cking head case. '
While that may or may not be true, today 3 things absolutely happened in the U.S.:
(1) The national debt increased by about 2.5 billion dollars, with more along the way each day.
(2) About 50 people got murdered, and that is just the recorded and verified murders.
(3) About 2,500 children yet born were purposely killed.
So, no matter what you say about me, what happens in the United States is absolute and continues unabated.
Without acknowledging the truth there is no hope. The typical U.S. citizen makes the U.S. hopeless.
can you 2 expose your isp numbers?
Be that as it may, there is one unescapable fact: There isn't one god damned thing that you can do about it. These are things far beyond your control. So if you can't do anything about it, why sit and whine and cry and moan and show the world your inner anguish? You are starting to sound like a jew whining about their Hollow-cost. Your angst is yours. If you are going to Sit Shiva over the condition of the world, do it on your time, not ours, not in our faces. Shut the f*ck up and enjoy your misery in solitude. That old saying: 'misery loves company,' simply isn't true. Nobody gives a rat's fur-lined farter about your inner pain, inanities and insecurities, head case. Silence IS golden. Practice it.
Obamas definition of BOLD: A stimulus plan that begins in 2010 and gets rolled out slowly in increments over the course of the next 10 years. And tax cuts for working Americans! Of course, since a majority of Americans aren't working right now nor paying income taxes anyway, his plan being more political smoke and mirrors will ultimately fizzle.
Obama apparently doesn't understand the definition of 'right now' when it comes to a timeline of immediate economic aid and the dire need of many Americans. Right now doesn't mean 2010. It means TODAY.
Is this the same man I voted into office not 2 months ago? He does sport a nice smile though.
'Silence IS golden.'
which reminds me of another proverb:
'All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing'
If U.S. citizens were more like me then Obama would get a much different message: 'Screw you and your welfare'.
But, U.S. citizens are more like you and Obama gets this message: 'We are afraid and need welfare. Please protect us from ourselves even if it means our children are not spared. We need government handouts so we can buy consumer products.'
Obama's message of hope is a fake hope but appeals to those that are frightened of the unknown: a balanced budget.
I prefer my approach and am not willing to sacrifice future generations.
'I prefer my approach and am not willing to sacrifice future generations.'
We don't give a F*CK about your approach to future generations. I repeat the post, because you appear not to have read the whole thing:
Be that as it may, there is one unescapable fact: There isn't one god damned thing that you can do about it. These are things far beyond your control. So if you can't do anything about it, why sit and whine and cry and moan and show the world your inner anguish? You are starting to sound like a jew whining about their Hollow-cost. Your angst is yours. If you are going to Sit Shiva over the condition of the world, do it on your time, not ours, not in our faces. Shut the f*ck up and enjoy your misery in solitude. That old saying: 'misery loves company,' simply isn't true. Nobody gives a rat's fur-lined farter about your inner pain, inanities and insecurities, head case. Silence IS golden. Practice it.
'I prefer my approach and am not willing to sacrifice future generations.'
So, preach to the future generations, dickweed. I restate what the other guy said: SHUT THE F*CK UP! You are past annoying. You grate on nerves. I have one left and you're getting on it. I'm about to get angry and I don't like it when I get angry. You won't either. Remember this Lance, there is no privacy on the web. YOU can be found. Please don't take that as a threat. It isn't one. It's a promise. And I keep my promises. So, moron, go do something USEFULL, go back to your bathroom and squeeze some more of those teenage zits on your face.
'These are things far beyond your control.'
I wonder if Martin Luther King thought that way. The U.S. just had MLK day didn't it? You would think that the typical U.S. citizen would learn something from a federal holiday besides how to drink beer and be lazy.
should have read: To lunchbucket Lance.
'I wonder if Martin Luther King thought that way'
And exactly where is MLK, today? One hint a-hole. He's in a hole. He's DEAD. He's worm food. By the way worms aren't vegetarian nut-jobs. They know a good meal when they see one.
'You would think that the typical U.S. citizen would learn something from a federal holiday besides how to drink beer and be lazy.'
You IDIOT. A holiday is a break from work. Someth at the vast majority of Americans do every day. What do you do for a living? Not much, most likely nothing, because you sit on this site like a web troll and whine aboiut things that you have no conteol over. So, where do you get your money from - welfare? Do you sell drugs? Are you a pimp? Precisely what do you do to earn your keep on this planet. Pontificating from a keyboard pulpit doesn't count. What do you do to be usefull? What do you contribute to the economy?
If you think your prostelitizing is going to change anything, you are deluded, headcase. Do something usefull with your time, shut up and go spill your seed on the ground. That, you ignorant pre-teen, is a polite way of saying go and whack off. That is a polite way of saying: go forth and multiply. And that is a polite way of having sex and travel at the same time. In simple words that YOU can understand, that means: FU*CK OFF, a-hole headcase.
'Obamas definition of BOLD: A stimulus plan that begins in 2010 and gets rolled out slowly in increments over the course of the next 10 years. And tax cuts for working Americans! Of course, since a majority of Americans aren't working right now nor paying income taxes anyway, his plan being more political smoke and mirrors will ultimately fizzle.'
Where did you get this mis-information. Do you always show yourself to be so stupid. Read something besides Rush or Savage and maybe you will find the truth.
'Obama apparently doesn't understand the definition of 'right now' when it comes to a timeline of immediate economic aid and the dire need of many Americans. Right now doesn't mean 2010. It means TODAY.'
Again where did you get 2010---February is more on target. God you are stupid.
'Is this the same man I voted into office not 2 months ago? He does sport a nice smile though.'
You did not vote at all. You are to lazy, hitting on your cousins, chewing tobacco, watching NASCAR, drinking beer, collecting your welfare check and bitching while unwilling to do one solid thing to help. Besides being a liar you are an stupid redneck!
By the way, compost for brains, exactly what does Martin Luther King Day have to do with anything current? Where I am, it is January 25, 2009 MLK Day is January 15. So, you are behind the times as well as being out of touch with reality.
Just to repeat a point made, your opinion means absolutely nothing. Go back in your mud hut and eat your veggies, molest your daughters, sell them off to someone 30 years older and live your life the way you want, I will not judge you like you do us.
Well, well. Sounds like you guys are resolved to collect your welfare check.
And I shall remain resolved to remind you of the fact and how it will affect future generations.
Today, you helped steal 2.5 billion dollars from future generations of U.S. citizens.
Good luck.
No idea about NASCAR, but I look forward with glee to spending your hard-earned money on more beer and tobacco for my toothless redneck self. Also if could you please put in some overtime so I can get a new sofa. And do hurry up already, I haven't all year to wait around for this you know.
Share the wealth!
'Well, well. Sounds like you guys are resolved to collect your welfare check.'
That sounds more like you, you unemployed bum. I work on one of those ranches that produce the beef that REAL people eat.(I also have a university education. What is on your CV - welfare cheque pick-up?)My brother works in one of those factories that produce those Jesus Bombs that you so adore. My father used to drop those Jesus bombs. Too bad he didn't know where you or your seed pod progenitors had their roots. He could have napalmed them. Cooked you veggies real good.
'And I shall remain resolved to remind you of the fact and how it will affect future generations.'
You shall remain a complete idiot. We don't need to be reminded that fanatical dickhead zealots like you exist. Afterall, when looking at mankind, it has its share of complete idiots. As for the future generations - F*ck 'em. If you are an example, of what's to come, then everyone should get sterilized. We got stuck with our parent's problems. Our kids will get stuck with ours. That's the way the world works. Get used to it. None of your angst-ridden 'writing' will change it one iota.
By the way, dickweed, you have not once demonstrated HOW it (whatever 'it' is) will affect future generations. All you have done is sit and whine about things you have ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROLL OVER. You are nothing more than a snivelling little monkey. Shut up and suffer in silence.
To Quote Oliver Cromwell: 'You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing lately. Depart I say: and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!'
'I look forward with glee to spending your hard-earned money'
Well, I understand your enthusiasm, but you don't get the point.
Obama has found a way to make payoffs and kickbacks like what you refer to and have the population with no advocate pay for it. That would be the most innocent of us, the unborn babies and children of the generation yet to come.
It seems like a real pisser thing to do having a bully like Obama piss all over your future even before you are born, but I guess that is the way welfare recipients like it.
P.S. - I like your camp. Obviously you are not too keen on the prospects of being on welfare. But, perhaps Obama will make a believer of you.
'you have not once demonstrated HOW it (whatever 'it' is) will affect future generations.'
Yes, yes. That is what all credit-holic addicts say, right up to the day they go bust and declare bankruptcy. And then they still don't get it.
That is why there were more than one million personal US bankruptcies last year and why more than 2.3 million US homeowners faced foreclosure proceedings last year.
Because they did not get the idea of the grim reaper coming after them when they went into hock.
Obama is helping the grim reaper come after your children and you are helping him.
'Well, I understand your enthusiasm, but you don't get the point.'
No, boll weevil, YOU don't get the point.
'That would be the most innocent of us, the unborn babies and children of the generation yet to come.'
Oh, you supercilious, sanctimonious sh*thead. You are basing a non-logical EMOTIONAL argument on things that haven't happened. Get RATIONAL, rutabaga. Here's a news flash for you - the future will never be today. It shall always remain the future. The past never happened. All there is, is this moment. I deal with the moment. You should pull your head out of your arse and breath some oxygen. That compost heap you call a gut produces noxious gasses, which you have inhaled for too long. Deal with reality, space cadet. Deal with the moment. Unborn babies and children of future generations to come will ALWAYS be unborn babies and children of the generation yet to come. Nothing will ever change that. Get some reality. Deal with today. Deal with your mental health issues. You are in serious need of professional help. Seek and ye shall find.
'It seems like a real pisser thing to do having a bully like Obama piss all over your future even before you are born, but I guess that is the way welfare recipients like it.'
See above paragraph, crap-for-brains.
'You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing lately. Depart I say: and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!'
'you have not once demonstrated HOW it (whatever 'it' is) will affect future generations.'
You still haven't. You try to slip by and not answer questions and postitions posed to you. It's called evasion. Deflection is another thing you attempt. It proves that you do not have a legitimate position or argument. You do not have the education or brainpower to carry on an intelligent conversation. You're so screwed in the carrot patch that there is no talking SENSE to you. Go and compost yourself. I'm done with you, headcase.
'You still haven't'
Actually, I did a while ago, but in reality:
The only possible way to attempt to convince a credit-holic addict of their sins is to simply let them go bust. That is the nature of an addiction.
So ... without further adieu ... your future awaits you.
a rubber room accessorized with a Thorazine drip awaits Lance.
'without further adieu'
The phrase, moron, is: without further ado.
F*ck, are you stupid.
Your sentence makes no sense, it is nonsense, but what else is to be expected from pea brain. Lance is an uneducated, illiterate fool.
Hot off the presses...
Twenty four crates of Food stuff (Carrots, Bananas, Etc...) to be given to the poor of Gaza, have been deemed contaminated due to lipstick on each food item. Manifest reads (Inspected by lance)!!!
Former commenter: 'without further adieu'
The phrase, moron, is: without further ado.
Lance probably meant I bid you adieu.
Heed some advice everyone, Lance is like a profit, uh, Prophet.
Las yeer ah cud`nt spel EKONOMI, now ah has wun.
A bit uv de ole black majik an we`ll all be OK agin.
Ma ole Granny giv me dat warrior sheeld, dat`ll do it.
no, lance in his stupidity meant what he said. The moron has a very limited grasp of language. How could he possibly understand a French word when he has minimal usage of his native tongue - English. No, like a parrot, he hears something and then spews it back out. He doesn't have the brains to comprehend, or understand that his usage is an abomination.
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HopeJan 24th, 2009 - 17:39:15
Hopefully they can all get on the same page and help turn this mess around.
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